My Reply to Zaid Hamids open letter to Imran Khan

Aqash Kmt

New Member
At the time being now we are just demanding NO ELECTION for 3 years. The circumstances are totally similar to 1971. You direly need to familiar with history. Whole country is being a security state.

The current Govt. is not in position to conduct the elections. And if election held (Army is at east and west border as well as in FATA in war situation meanwhile IK asking Army to look after the elections) than as per my perspective PTI maximum take over 30% in elections.

Till 7 Dec, 2012 I personally consider that IK is a courageous and brave man among all political parties but he was mum and was unable to face and deal with the Endians media. He was looking confound.

He needs to clear his vision about Army and deal with devil like a brave man.
 

IMRANKHAN1

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Reply to Zaid Hamids open letter to Imran Khan

I appreciate, you caught my typo mistake.
You have a right to hate or likes someone but
your last comments showing your mind set. [hilar]
Hate you stupid IK......please check your typo...an emotional. Yaar urdu mein likh diya karo.
 
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سعد

Minister (2k+ posts)
بہت اچھے ... مگر میرے بھائی بھینس کے آگے بین بجانے کا کوئی فائدہ نہیں ... یہ نفرت کے پجاری ہیں ان کا کام صرف لوگوں کے دلوں میں نفرت بھرنا اور عوام کو اصل مسلؤں سے دور رکھنا ہے. ہمارا اصل مسلہ ہندوستان نہیں بلکہ بکاؤ پاکستانی لیڈر ہیں... پچھلے ٦٥ سال سے یہی درس ہم کو دیا گیا ہے کے جو ہندوستان کو گالی دے وہ سب سے بڑا محب وطن ہے ... یہی درس ہندوستانیوں کو بھی دیا گیا ہے... ہم نے دھلی فاتح نہیں کرنا ہم نےدنیا بھر کے لوگوں کا دل فاتح کرنا ہے .. کاش یہ بات زید حامد صاحب کی بھی سمجھ میں آ جائے
 

btghazwa

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
بہت اچھے ... مگر میرے بھائی بھینس کے آگے بین بجانے کا کوئی فائدہ نہیں ... یہ نفرت کے پجاری ہیں ان کا کام صرف لوگوں کے دلوں میں نفرت بھرنا اور عوام کو اصل مسلؤں سے دور رکھنا ہے. ہمارا اصل مسلہ ہندوستان نہیں بلکہ بکاؤ پاکستانی لیڈر ہیں... پچھلے ٦٥ سال سے یہی درس ہم کو دیا گیا ہے کے جو ہندوستان کو گالی دے وہ سب سے بڑا محب وطن ہے ... یہی درس ہندوستانیوں کو بھی دیا گیا ہے... ہم نے دھلی فاتح نہیں کرنا ہم نےدنیا بھر کے لوگوں کا دل فاتح کرنا ہے .. کاش یہ بات زید حامد صاحب کی بھی سمجھ میں آ جائے

Aap such mooch main sirf baatuni hain, Rasul Allah (SAW) ki ahadees hain, bisharatain hain keh Ghazwah e Hind kay shuadah afzal ul shuhadah hon gay, Hazrat Abu Huraira say lay kar aaj tak caroron musalman is baat ki arzoo kartay hain keh wo is shahadat ko paa sakain, aap yeh saadat nahi chahtay to ghar baithain, Pakistan aur hum to dehli fatah kar kay rahain gay !!!
 

Haider2332

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: Reply to Zaid Hamids open letter to Imran Khan

well thats very well said. Lekin mein sirf itna chahoon ga keh agar waqi mein saboot nahi diye india ne aur Allah kare ke aisa ho tu rehman malik ya baqi log is ko deny kyu nahi kartay. kyu ke aap ne bhi dekha hoga keh yahi aaj tak tv channel ka anchor pata nahi kitni baar bol chuka hai ye suboot diye hain suboot diye hain. sun kar bari koft hoti hai. na tu mein india ka fan hu aur na hi koi interest hai . mera marna jeena sirf pakistan ke liye hai. tehreek insaaf hamari manzil nahi bus manzil ke liye aik zariya hai. Doosri baat ye ke shayed aap ne ghor se interview unka nahi suna imran khan khabi bhi institutions ko weak nahi karega agar aap ko us par poora bharosa ho. wo tu kehta hai keh jo institution ho usko apne constitutional jurisdiction mein kaam karna chahiye. mujhe poora yaqeen hai ke hamari agencies pakistan ki difa ke liye hain. lekin aap is baat se bhi ittifaq karen gey keh aaj nawaz shareef inhi ki pedawar hai . agar nawaz shareef na hota tu shayed kuch behtari aati. mujhay pata hai keh kin circumstances ki bunyaad par nawaz shareef ko banaya tha. lekin unconstitutional tareeqe ko apnanay ka anjam bhi hum dekh chukay hai. IK to Allah zindagi aur kamyaabi de lekin mujay pata hai keh kuch bhi ho sakta hai lekin umeed pe tu dunya qayam. ye IK hi tu hai jis ki waja se youth active ho gayee hai warna youth ko kya pata tha politics kis chirya ka naam hai

Bohot acha likha tum ne. TV anchors...mashallah unki tu baaton pe dhiyaan hi na diya karo...specially GEO. They log pro-India hein. Jewish companies ke shares hein GEO aur kai barey channels mein. Yehi Jewish company India ke AAJTAK ko more than 80% own kerti hai (according to an article). Is liye fauran apna mind change na kiya karo. Imran ne bhi apne interview mein kaha ke Hafiz Saeed ke khilaaf saboot do hum usko trial karein ge. Aur jo saboot un logon ne diye hein wo humari courts nahin maanti ke kisi ko trial kerne ke liye kafi hein. Imran Khan is the only hope at the moment is mein koi shak nahin aur Im sure ke wo institution ko weak nahin karey ga LEKIN.....mujhe bohot dukh hua jab usne Indians ko humari Army aur ISI ko zaleel kerne diya aur koi response nahin diya. Sirf han han han hi kerta raha. Sirf itna kehta ke ghaltiyan aapne ne bhi bohot ki hein sirf aik side ko ghalat nahin keh sakte is liye humein purani baaton ko bhula ker aage barhna chaye. Tu itna hi enough tha. Mein ne aisi hi aik mail PTI ki tamam management ko bhi bheji hai. DEKHO, although Imran bohot acha hai lekin perfect tu nahin hai na. Indian ke khoon mein shatranj hai. un logon ne baton hi baton mein humse Khalsa sikhon ki list le li aur humne de di. Jabke khud dhoke se Bangladesh, Kashmir, Siachin aur ab Balochistan mein ungli ker rahe hein. Wo sub muaaf,,,,aur bass ISI aur Pak Army hi buri hai. Yeh kahan ka insaf hua. Nawaz ki tumne baat ki aur khud hi jawab de diya ke halaat ke mutabiq faisla kiya tha. Us waqt in mein se koi bhi party 2/3 leti tu apne aapko MUGHL E AZAM declare ker deti aur army ki position police wali hoti. Is liye jo bhi kiya thek kiya ke in kutton ko akele revriyon pe qabiz nahin hone diya. Army wahid institution hai jo country ko jor ker rakh raha hai aur it has to be protected at any cost. Imran Khan aaj hai,,,khuda na khwasta kal usey koi maar de. Phir kya Pakistan khatam ho jaye ga?? Is liye Army ke khilaaf koi bhi baat kerta hai tu wo Pakistan ka dushman hai, chahye wo bhola ho ya siyana. I hope u understand my point.
 

Haider2332

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: Reply to Zaid Hamids open letter to Imran Khan

Ignorant fools like you will always deceive oneself and others.
Dont chant slogans for Pak Army in madness. Can you tell me one solid and undisputed achievement by pak army in our history? just one...They are a bunch of selfish parasites and nothing else.
Im waiting 4 ur reply.....

To be honest with you I dont know if ur a Pakistani and if you, are which group. Its not my policy to start a hate debate against Pakistani people cuz I love them the most. My this post is a bit harsh one on the writer and I said sorry for that. I wana say that I perfectly know how to deal with your kinda of people but after getting one warning by the admin long time ago, I try to keep my head cool. If you cannot see any of Pak Army achievement, it makes you a very depressed person I m afraid. Who is not good enough and always curse what he has. This country is still afloat, this is because of Pak Army. I wish they could have finished this gov 3 years ago when Noora accepted a deal with Zordari. Pak Army's lovers will always be there and will never let defeated minds take over. If you are NOORA group, then wait we will deal with you soon :)
 

sirimran

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Reply to Zaid Hamids open letter to Imran Khan

Bohot acha likha tum ne. TV anchors...mashallah unki tu baaton pe dhiyaan hi na diya karo...specially GEO. They log pro-India hein. Jewish companies ke shares hein GEO aur kai barey channels mein. Yehi Jewish company India ke AAJTAK ko more than 80% own kerti hai (according to an article). Is liye fauran apna mind change na kiya karo. Imran ne bhi apne interview mein kaha ke Hafiz Saeed ke khilaaf saboot do hum usko trial karein ge. Aur jo saboot un logon ne diye hein wo humari courts nahin maanti ke kisi ko trial kerne ke liye kafi hein. Imran Khan is the only hope at the moment is mein koi shak nahin aur Im sure ke wo institution ko weak nahin karey ga LEKIN.....mujhe bohot dukh hua jab usne Indians ko humari Army aur ISI ko zaleel kerne diya aur koi response nahin diya. Sirf han han han hi kerta raha. Sirf itna kehta ke ghaltiyan aapne ne bhi bohot ki hein sirf aik side ko ghalat nahin keh sakte is liye humein purani baaton ko bhula ker aage barhna chaye. Tu itna hi enough tha. Mein ne aisi hi aik mail PTI ki tamam management ko bhi bheji hai. DEKHO, although Imran bohot acha hai lekin perfect tu nahin hai na. Indian ke khoon mein shatranj hai. un logon ne baton hi baton mein humse Khalsa sikhon ki list le li aur humne de di. Jabke khud dhoke se Bangladesh, Kashmir, Siachin aur ab Balochistan mein ungli ker rahe hein. Wo sub muaaf,,,,aur bass ISI aur Pak Army hi buri hai. Yeh kahan ka insaf hua. Nawaz ki tumne baat ki aur khud hi jawab de diya ke halaat ke mutabiq faisla kiya tha. Us waqt in mein se koi bhi party 2/3 leti tu apne aapko MUGHL E AZAM declare ker deti aur army ki position police wali hoti. Is liye jo bhi kiya thek kiya ke in kutton ko akele revriyon pe qabiz nahin hone diya. Army wahid institution hai jo country ko jor ker rakh raha hai aur it has to be protected at any cost. Imran Khan aaj hai,,,khuda na khwasta kal usey koi maar de. Phir kya Pakistan khatam ho jaye ga?? Is liye Army ke khilaaf koi bhi baat kerta hai tu wo Pakistan ka dushman hai, chahye wo bhola ho ya siyana. I hope u understand my point.

kisi bhi country ki jamhooriyat ko purify karne ke liye mulk ki intelligence agencies ko apna political wing banana nahi chahiye. jab jamhooriyat chalti rahe to khud hi purify ho jati...... kuch maheene pehle isi aaj tak ke program mein imran khan ne kaha tha "keh kuch shehr ke log bhi zalim san kuch sanu bhi marne da shok si". unko bataya tha keh ghalatiyan apki bhi hain..... aur doosri baat apne kahi keh jo army ka dushman hai wo pakistan ka dushman hai... mere bhai jitni muhabbat apko pakistan se hai shayed mujhe usse zyada hu. Agar mein un pe zra se tanqeed karta hu tu wo mein pakistan ke point of view se karta hu raw, mosad or cia ke point of view se nahi... jihadi tanzeemain unho ne banayi thi na amrica se dollars leke.... mein manta hu ke army sab se credible idara hai pakistan ka aur inshaAllah rehe ga lekin unko iski pakizgi ka khayal rakna chahiye tha na.... mein sirf itna kehna chahu ga ke imran sincere hai agar uski koi baat apko pasand nahi ayee hu to manta hu lekin itna zaroor kahu ga keh agar Allah ne usey kamyab kiya tu kam az kam uske actions teek hun ge.... aankh mein aankh daal ke baat kar sakta hai.... aur haan mein agar media pe yaqeen karta tu aaj imran ko support hi na karta lekin hamare interior ministry se bhi tu koi khatir khwa jawab nahi ayaa na..... i hope i conveyed my point
 

Haider2332

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: Reply to Zaid Hamids open letter to Imran Khan

kisi bhi country ki jamhooriyat ko purify karne ke liye mulk ki intelligence agencies ko apna political wing banana nahi chahiye. jab jamhooriyat chalti rahe to khud hi purify ho jati...... kuch maheene pehle isi aaj tak ke program mein imran khan ne kaha tha "keh kuch shehr ke log bhi zalim san kuch sanu bhi marne da shok si". unko bataya tha keh ghalatiyan apki bhi hain..... aur doosri baat apne kahi keh jo army ka dushman hai wo pakistan ka dushman hai... mere bhai jitni muhabbat apko pakistan se hai shayed mujhe usse zyada hu. Agar mein un pe zra se tanqeed karta hu tu wo mein pakistan ke point of view se karta hu raw, mosad or cia ke point of view se nahi... jihadi tanzeemain unho ne banayi thi na amrica se dollars leke.... mein manta hu ke army sab se credible idara hai pakistan ka aur inshaAllah rehe ga lekin unko iski pakizgi ka khayal rakna chahiye tha na.... mein sirf itna kehna chahu ga ke imran sincere hai agar uski koi baat apko pasand nahi ayee hu to manta hu lekin itna zaroor kahu ga keh agar Allah ne usey kamyab kiya tu kam az kam uske actions teek hun ge.... aankh mein aankh daal ke baat kar sakta hai.... aur haan mein agar media pe yaqeen karta tu aaj imran ko support hi na karta lekin hamare interior ministry se bhi tu koi khatir khwa jawab nahi ayaa na..... i hope i conveyed my point

Dekho I dont care about jamhooriyat q ke ye koi Islami cheeze tu hai nahin. Pehle jamhooriyat bachane ke liye Ayub khan ko hataya, aur election kerwa diye. Jamhooriyat tu mazboot na hui, han mulk toot gaya. Aur tum yeh kehna chah rahe ho ke Jaisey 5 saal ab guzrey hein jamhooriyat ke saath aisey hi 3, 4 period aur ho jayein tu koi baat nahin tu I m sorry, yeh khaam khayali hai. Itne arse mein tu yeh leader mulk ke 5 hissey ker ke har hissey ke King ban jaate aur jamhooriat jati tail lene. Har formula har aik qaum ko fit nahin aata. Aaj Imran hai aur hum bohot khush hein. Kal nahin hoga tu kya hoga. Uski planning bhi abhi se kerna parey gi. I m with PTI q ke aur tu koi choice hai hi nahin. I m sure Imran ko yeh sub baatein maloom hein ke Army q act kerti thi isi liye usne yeh sentence bola hai. Insha'Allah jab gov sincere hogi tu Army ka dimagh nahin kharab ke wo har department mein aa ker baith jayein. Isi liye mein kehta hun ke Army aik institution hai. kitne Gen aaye aur gaye. Meri support kisi gen ke liye nahin Army ke liye hai. Isi tarha Allah karey ke Imran PTI ko aisey log de ker jaye ke hum farde Wahid Imran ki bajaye PTI ko as an institution like karein. Imran sincere hai koi shak nahin lekin kya perfect hai? nahin? Agar mere kisi pyare ko surgery ki zaroorat ho tu kya mein surgery shuru ker dun jabke mein doctor hi nahin hun. Woh bhi sirf is bunyad pe ke mein subse sincere hun uske liye? Sincerity aur cheez hai aur ability aur cheez. Imran able hai lekin har area ka master tu nahin ho sakta na. Liaquat Ali Khan se bi bara koi sincere hoga is Pakistan mein?? lekin 1948 ki jang rokna unki ghalti thi jab India ne UN mein ja ker request ki. Wo shareef bande they maan gaye aur hum aajtak bhugat rahe hein. Aur ab kuch ghatya log kehte hein ke Pakistan Army ki koi achievement batao. Dil tu kerta hai cheer ker nikal jaun inke beech mein se. India shatir hai aur kahin Imran koi aisa kaam na ker de ke defense ka masla ho jaye. Isi liye mere concerns thay warna I have no choice but to vote for PTI Insha'Allah.
 

sirimran

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Reply to Zaid Hamids open letter to Imran Khan

Dekho I dont care about jamhooriyat q ke ye koi Islami cheeze tu hai nahin. Pehle jamhooriyat bachane ke liye Ayub khan ko hataya, aur election kerwa diye. Jamhooriyat tu mazboot na hui, han mulk toot gaya. Aur tum yeh kehna chah rahe ho ke Jaisey 5 saal ab guzrey hein jamhooriyat ke saath aisey hi 3, 4 period aur ho jayein tu koi baat nahin tu I m sorry, yeh khaam khayali hai. Itne arse mein tu yeh leader mulk ke 5 hissey ker ke har hissey ke King ban jaate aur jamhooriat jati tail lene. Har formula har aik qaum ko fit nahin aata. Aaj Imran hai aur hum bohot khush hein. Kal nahin hoga tu kya hoga. Uski planning bhi abhi se kerna parey gi. I m with PTI q ke aur tu koi choice hai hi nahin. I m sure Imran ko yeh sub baatein maloom hein ke Army q act kerti thi isi liye usne yeh sentence bola hai. Insha'Allah jab gov sincere hogi tu Army ka dimagh nahin kharab ke wo har department mein aa ker baith jayein. Isi liye mein kehta hun ke Army aik institution hai. kitne Gen aaye aur gaye. Meri support kisi gen ke liye nahin Army ke liye hai. Isi tarha Allah karey ke Imran PTI ko aisey log de ker jaye ke hum farde Wahid Imran ki bajaye PTI ko as an institution like karein. Imran sincere hai koi shak nahin lekin kya perfect hai? nahin? Agar mere kisi pyare ko surgery ki zaroorat ho tu kya mein surgery shuru ker dun jabke mein doctor hi nahin hun. Woh bhi sirf is bunyad pe ke mein subse sincere hun uske liye? Sincerity aur cheez hai aur ability aur cheez. Imran able hai lekin har area ka master tu nahin ho sakta na. Liaquat Ali Khan se bi bara koi sincere hoga is Pakistan mein?? lekin 1948 ki jang rokna unki ghalti thi jab India ne UN mein ja ker request ki. Wo shareef bande they maan gaye aur hum aajtak bhugat rahe hein. Aur ab kuch ghatya log kehte hein ke Pakistan Army ki koi achievement batao. Dil tu kerta hai cheer ker nikal jaun inke beech mein se. India shatir hai aur kahin Imran koi aisa kaam na ker de ke defense ka masla ho jaye. Isi liye mere concerns thay warna I have no choice but to vote for PTI Insha'Allah.

i really liked ur post but just one disagreement wo ye keh aaj pakistan mein jo kuch ho raha hai uska sara nahi lekin kafi had tak pervez musharraf zimmadar hai.... wo bhi army chief tha na.. mein bilkul in ****** siyastdano ko bck nahi karta na bilkul na.... inhi kameeno ki waja sa tu hum pe 8 9 saal mazeed dictatorship hui. mere sirf kehne ka matlab hai ke dunya mein jitni bhi taraqqi hui hai wo democracy se hui hai pure dmocracy. hamari tarah banadar baant nahi. mein sirf ye kehna chahta hu ke democratic system purify hu. jese tum ne kaha ke kal imran rahe ya na rahe lekin humain ek system de jaye , wohi mein chahta hu..... hamain apne maqsad mein saat rehna hai sahi simth mein baqi choti moti baato pe disagreement hoti rehti hai, ye disagreement bhi ek purification ka amal hai
 

fasmik

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Reply to Zaid Hamids open letter to Imran Khan

To be honest with you I dont know if ur a Pakistani and if you, are which group. Its not my policy to start a hate debate against Pakistani people cuz I love them the most. My this post is a bit harsh one on the writer and I said sorry for that. I wana say that I perfectly know how to deal with your kinda of people but after getting one warning by the admin long time ago, I try to keep my head cool. If you cannot see any of Pak Army achievement, it makes you a very depressed person I m afraid. Who is not good enough and always curse what he has. This country is still afloat, this is because of Pak Army. I wish they could have finished this gov 3 years ago when Noora accepted a deal with Zordari. Pak Army's lovers will always be there and will never let defeated minds take over. If you are NOORA group, then wait we will deal with you soon :)
What hate debate???
Knowing and discussing the realities never makes anyone a depressed person. I do not live in self denial. You sound like a pegion who has closed his eyes and believes that all is well. Any common sensible person will agree to what i have said.
Army has never taken over the govt for the sake of Pakistan, rather they have always preferred their personal gains out of it. The day Army takes over for the sake of this country, all our problems will be solved. Ever heard of an Army who is unaccountable ? who has 70% stake in the country's industry ? who rewards all the culprits like yahya, musharraf and countless others ? Intellectual in this country die out of poverty and ill educated army men enjoy the luxuries in defence colonies....They take over elected govt within no time but are impotent enough to turn a blind eye to killings in khi, balochistan, GB, wana, fata.......I can go on and on...............
And since you know how to deal with people of my kind, I again challenge you to present facts about any success of the army.
Dont just bark but bite instead !
 

سعد

Minister (2k+ posts)
Aap such mooch main sirf baatuni hain, Rasul Allah (SAW) ki ahadees hain, bisharatain hain keh Ghazwah e Hind kay shuadah afzal ul shuhadah hon gay, Hazrat Abu Huraira say lay kar aaj tak caroron musalman is baat ki arzoo kartay hain keh wo is shahadat ko paa sakain, aap yeh saadat nahi chahtay to ghar baithain, Pakistan aur hum to dehli fatah kar kay rahain gay !!!

آپ کا طالبانی جواب سن کر مجھ کو حیرت نہیں ہوئی
 

Fursan

Minister (2k+ posts)
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Haider2332

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: Reply to Zaid Hamids open letter to Imran Khan

What hate debate???
Knowing and discussing the realities never makes anyone a depressed person. I do not live in self denial. You sound like a pegion who has closed his eyes and believes that all is well. Any common sensible person will agree to what i have said.
Army has never taken over the govt for the sake of Pakistan, rather they have always preferred their personal gains out of it. The day Army takes over for the sake of this country, all our problems will be solved. Ever heard of an Army who is unaccountable ? who has 70% stake in the country's industry ? who rewards all the culprits like yahya, musharraf and countless others ? Intellectual in this country die out of poverty and ill educated army men enjoy the luxuries in defence colonies....They take over elected govt within no time but are impotent enough to turn a blind eye to killings in khi, balochistan, GB, wana, fata.......I can go on and on...............
And since you know how to deal with people of my kind, I again challenge you to present facts about any success of the army.
Dont just bark but bite instead !

To bite you, I ll have to be very ugly :) You seem to be similar to that dog who sleeps all day long and bark at his own master in nights. Army is this, Army is that blablablabla..............I heard you and now you listen to me carefully...Whatever this Army is I like it and trust completely. If you have any problem or some1 in your family lost a post because of Military takeover, you can cry out loud. Its gona give you some solace.
Would you like to explain what you have achieved so far in your life?? There will always be some1 much much better than you in your own street. Why do you live then if you are not as good as that person?? OR Is ur father achieved more than what you neighbour did?? Lets come to history.....you are talking about ACHIEVEMENTS....Why do we praise Tipu Sultan?? He lost the war...what did he achieve in his life? Why other Khalifas were not as successful as Hazrat Umar (RA)???
You are childish....who recognize things according to achievements without considering the circumstances different people had to deal with in their times. You should join JEWS cuz they are handful people but control the world by every aspect. Why are we Muslims?? what are our achievements?? Why not all of us leave our faith and join some1 who has achieved more than us??
Army has achieved more than what they were supposed to, considering the resources they had. They are backed by those people who sit on their fat asses everyday and start criticizing Army. Sometime go to google and type "most powerful Armies of the world". I hope you wont need to ask me about their achievements cuz I dont wana waste my time on children. Man......improve yourself, its gona help the country but its gona be hard for a person who prefer to be a critic.
70% hahahahahaah.......this is stereotype forget it now. Army take 18% of the budget and Gen Kayani has recently given the evidence to the media just to keep your kind of gob shut. I think you missed that bit because of prejudice you have for Army. Now 18% of Pakistan's budget NOT India's huge budget.....I hope u know how much our budget is...tiny :)
Let me give you some figures...Pak Army's annual budget is nearly 5 billion dollars while your favorite India has nearly 34 billion dollars. Pak Army is 600k while Indian Army is 1.4 million. I hope you have attended school and will be able to do some maths.
If you are not satisfied.....still....you have made your point and you are not a lone Army hater. I am Army lover and I ll remain so at any cost. And hey...I m also not a lone lover :)
 

Haider2332

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: Reply to Zaid Hamids open letter to Imran Khan

i really liked ur post but just one disagreement wo ye keh aaj pakistan mein jo kuch ho raha hai uska sara nahi lekin kafi had tak pervez musharraf zimmadar hai.... wo bhi army chief tha na.. mein bilkul in ****** siyastdano ko bck nahi karta na bilkul na.... inhi kameeno ki waja sa tu hum pe 8 9 saal mazeed dictatorship hui. mere sirf kehne ka matlab hai ke dunya mein jitni bhi taraqqi hui hai wo democracy se hui hai pure dmocracy. hamari tarah banadar baant nahi. mein sirf ye kehna chahta hu ke democratic system purify hu. jese tum ne kaha ke kal imran rahe ya na rahe lekin humain ek system de jaye , wohi mein chahta hu..... hamain apne maqsad mein saat rehna hai sahi simth mein baqi choti moti baato pe disagreement hoti rehti hai, ye disagreement bhi ek purification ka amal hai
Thats perfect....aik do baatein tumko bataun I hope you will agree. Tumne kaha ke jamhooriyat wale countries ne taraqi ki hai. Agar tum glasgow mein hi ho tu zara yeh batao ke kya yahan zaat biradri hai??? nahin hai? Sub scottish hein. Taleem ka mayyar itna zyada hai ke aik baar news pe announcement hoti ahi aur sub log wohi kerte hein jo guide kiya jata hai. Aisey log jab bhi vote daalte hein tu country ke liye kya behtar hai unko pata hota hai wo ghalti nahi kerte. Aur jab gov hoti hai tab bhi unper nazar rakhte hein right or wrong?? Blair PM tha uski party power mein thi lekin usko step down kerna para. Kya yeh Pakistan mein ho ga? nahin...q ke yaha firqe, zaatein, groups, aur pata nahin kya kya hai. Is liye jo goron ke liye suitable hai wo zaroori nahin ke humare liye bhi ho. Iran mein jo jamhooriyat hai wo better hai. q k wo best few people choose kerte hein aur log un mein se jisko bhi le aayein wo behter hi hota hai. Aur sahi bataun tu humara problem hi jamhooriat hai. Agar yeh jamhoori partiyon ki bajaye koi dictator hota tu KALABAGH dam ban gaya hota. ANP, MQM, PPP sirf apni siasi dukandaari ke liye problem kerti hein na. Sub log musharaf ko bura kehte hein. ke Dictator tha bla bla. Yeh tu waqt bataye ga ke usne jo kiya wo kitna thek tha aur kitna ghalat q ke secret khas time pe bahar aate hein. Mein itna jaanta hun ke uske daur mein log khush-haal thay. PTI se aas na hoti tu mein tu Dictator hi pasand kerta.
Jis purification ki tum baat ker rahe ho uske liye UK, US waghaira ko kai 100 saal lag gaye kya itna time humare paas? Mehdi AS ke aane ki saari nishaniyan poori ho gai hein aur I think 2020 tak kaam start ho jaye ga lolz
Anyways, aik baat per tu hum muttafiq hein ke agar election hote hein tu PTI aur agar na hon tu professionals gov ko chalayein ta'ke police neutral ho, Khi mein operation ho, US ja chuka ho aur Alhamdulillah peaceful halaat mein 3 saal ke baad election hon aur PTI aa jaye tu kya hi baat hai ;)
 

fasmik

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Reply to Zaid Hamids open letter to Imran Khan

To bite you, I ll have to be very ugly :) You seem to be similar to that dog who sleeps all day long and bark at his own master in nights. Army is this, Army is that blablablabla..............I heard you and now you listen to me carefully...Whatever this Army is I like it and trust completely. If you have any problem or some1 in your family lost a post because of Military takeover, you can cry out loud. Its gona give you some solace.
Would you like to explain what you have achieved so far in your life?? There will always be some1 much much better than you in your own street. Why do you live then if you are not as good as that person?? OR Is ur father achieved more than what you neighbour did?? Lets come to history.....you are talking about ACHIEVEMENTS....Why do we praise Tipu Sultan?? He lost the war...what did he achieve in his life? Why other Khalifas were not as successful as Hazrat Umar (RA)???
You are childish....who recognize things according to achievements without considering the circumstances different people had to deal with in their times. You should join JEWS cuz they are handful people but control the world by every aspect. Why are we Muslims?? what are our achievements?? Why not all of us leave our faith and join some1 who has achieved more than us??
Army has achieved more than what they were supposed to, considering the resources they had. They are backed by those people who sit on their fat asses everyday and start criticizing Army. Sometime go to google and type "most powerful Armies of the world". I hope you wont need to ask me about their achievements cuz I dont wana waste my time on children. Man......improve yourself, its gona help the country but its gona be hard for a person who prefer to be a critic.
70% hahahahahaah.......this is stereotype forget it now. Army take 18% of the budget and Gen Kayani has recently given the evidence to the media just to keep your kind of gob shut. I think you missed that bit because of prejudice you have for Army. Now 18% of Pakistan's budget NOT India's huge budget.....I hope u know how much our budget is...tiny :)
Let me give you some figures...Pak Army's annual budget is nearly 5 billion dollars while your favorite India has nearly 34 billion dollars. Pak Army is 600k while Indian Army is 1.4 million. I hope you have attended school and will be able to do some maths.
If you are not satisfied.....still....you have made your point and you are not a lone Army hater. I am Army lover and I ll remain so at any cost. And hey...I m also not a lone lover :)

I understand now. You belong to an Army family and No matter whatever you see or hear, you wont accept the facts. Lavish army salary, land, residential plots, handsome pensions, foreign tours, huge kick backs will not let you speak.
And by army I mean the high command and not the poor soldiers and jawans who are daily fed to this war so that generals can make money out of it.

Secondly, I agree to the fact that we have the most powerful army, who is always powerful enough to take over its own country and never perform in real time encounters with the real enemy. Give me the facts of any success in wars.
I did go to school and studied the same syllabus which was prepared by the army men and hence is full of deceiving praises & untrue heroics. Facts are very different my friend.
Lastly, now you are either a mean prick or a retard to compare India's army budget with ours. Their economy size is now 10 times that of us. Their gdp is 1.9 trillion $ whereas ours is only 210 billion $. Now if their military is spending 34 billion$, we should b spending 10 times less i.e. 3.4 billion dollars. Also there are no corporations owned by indian army & is accountable on its spendings unlike ours.
But strangely you haven't answered any of my basic questions. And you never will coz facts will make you hide your face with shame and humiliation.
 

sirimran

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Reply to Zaid Hamids open letter to Imran Khan

Thats perfect....aik do baatein tumko bataun I hope you will agree. Tumne kaha ke jamhooriyat wale countries ne taraqi ki hai. Agar tum glasgow mein hi ho tu zara yeh batao ke kya yahan zaat biradri hai??? nahin hai? Sub scottish hein. Taleem ka mayyar itna zyada hai ke aik baar news pe announcement hoti ahi aur sub log wohi kerte hein jo guide kiya jata hai. Aisey log jab bhi vote daalte hein tu country ke liye kya behtar hai unko pata hota hai wo ghalti nahi kerte. Aur jab gov hoti hai tab bhi unper nazar rakhte hein right or wrong?? Blair PM tha uski party power mein thi lekin usko step down kerna para. Kya yeh Pakistan mein ho ga? nahin...q ke yaha firqe, zaatein, groups, aur pata nahin kya kya hai. Is liye jo goron ke liye suitable hai wo zaroori nahin ke humare liye bhi ho. Iran mein jo jamhooriyat hai wo better hai. q k wo best few people choose kerte hein aur log un mein se jisko bhi le aayein wo behter hi hota hai. Aur sahi bataun tu humara problem hi jamhooriat hai. Agar yeh jamhoori partiyon ki bajaye koi dictator hota tu KALABAGH dam ban gaya hota. ANP, MQM, PPP sirf apni siasi dukandaari ke liye problem kerti hein na. Sub log musharaf ko bura kehte hein. ke Dictator tha bla bla. Yeh tu waqt bataye ga ke usne jo kiya wo kitna thek tha aur kitna ghalat q ke secret khas time pe bahar aate hein. Mein itna jaanta hun ke uske daur mein log khush-haal thay. PTI se aas na hoti tu mein tu Dictator hi pasand kerta.
Jis purification ki tum baat ker rahe ho uske liye UK, US waghaira ko kai 100 saal lag gaye kya itna time humare paas? Mehdi AS ke aane ki saari nishaniyan poori ho gai hein aur I think 2020 tak kaam start ho jaye ga lolz
Anyways, aik baat per tu hum muttafiq hein ke agar election hote hein tu PTI aur agar na hon tu professionals gov ko chalayein ta'ke police neutral ho, Khi mein operation ho, US ja chuka ho aur Alhamdulillah peaceful halaat mein 3 saal ke baad election hon aur PTI aa jaye tu kya hi baat hai ;)

BRAVO!!! zabardast bus kuch batein!!!! aap ne scotland ki misaal di keh wahan pe taleem hai aur logo mein awareness hai ....kyu??? kyu ki awareness tab ayee jab logo ko taleem mili (warna kuch sadyoo pehle aap inke halaat dekte) aur taleem kis ne di hukumat ne, democracy ne.... hamari wali democracy nahi lekin mein phir bhi kehta hu keh jab ek exercise aap baar baar karein ge tu result perfect nahi but closer to perfection aa hi jati hai... yaha pe hum aisi aisi batein sun lete hain keh ankhein aur aqal dono heran ho jate hain ke inti bhi awareness ho sakti hai .... aap ne iran ki misaal di luckily iran ka bhi aik dost mere saat hai aur us ne bhi jo bataya hai wo bhi hum ne kabhi nahi suna. hum to samajhte hain ke wahan pe democracy hai lekin ye ghalat hai... aur pure democracy hoti aur credible government hoti tu shayed iran aaj kahi aur hota kein phir bhi uske haalaat hum se teek hain. Bus jo bhi ho hamare mulk ke liye achchca ho.... kyu ke hamare mulk ke haalaaat de kar jitni pareshanai humain hoti hai shayed hi kisi ko ho... Allah reham farmayen... Ameen
 

xshadow

Minister (2k+ posts)
میں عمران خان کا ایک بہت بڑا سپورٹر ہوں مگر اسکے باوجود میں عمران خان کی بھارت پالیسی سے خوش نہیں ہوں۔

یہ دوستی کی باتیں بہت ہوتی رہی ہیں اسلیے کوئی نئی بات نہیں ہے کہ عمران خان نے بھی دوستی کی بات کردی ہے۔ بلکہ دوستی کا خیال ایک اچھا خیال ہے مگر یہی لوگ سمجھنا نہیں چاہتے کہ یہ دوستی کی یہ کوششیں پاکستان نہیں بلکہ بھارت کی طرف سے ختم کی جاتی ہیں۔

پرویز مشرک نے اقوام متحدہ کی قرارداد سے دستبردار ہونے تک کی بات کردی تھی مگر ایک حملہ ہوا ممبئی میں اور دوستی کی ساری کی ساری کوششیں بھارت نے خاک میں لا دیں۔ ابھی بھی کچھ لوگ دوستی کے خواب دیکھ رہیں ہیں تو ضرور دیکھیں مگر یہ بات بھول جائیں کہ بھارت کوئی پلیٹ میں رکھ کر کشمیر پاکستان کے حوالے کردے گا۔

آزاد کشمیر قائداعظم نے بزور بازو حاصل کیا تھا قبائل کے مجاہدین کی مدد سے۔ یہی کشمیر کا واحد حل ہے چاہے کوئی کتنے ہی بڑے دوستی کے خواب دیکھے۔ بلکہ اصل دوستی بھارت بھی اسی صورت میں کرنے پر مجبور ہوگا جب اس کو ناکوں چنے جبوائے جائیں گے۔ اور یہی ناکوں چنے ہم جبوارہے تھے اور بھارت میں اتنی ہمت نہیں تھی کہ پاکستان کی طرف میلی آنکھ سے دیکھتا۔

بھارت کے بھی اتنے کی ٹکڑے ہونے والے تھے جتنے ہم نے روس کے کیے تھے۔ یہ تو بھارت کے ناجائز
باپ نے بیچ میں مداخلت کردی ورنہ تو ہمیں اقوام متحدہ کی قراردوں کی سہارا لینے کی ضرورت بھی نہیں تھی۔ آج اسی ناجائز باپ کی گود میں بیٹھ کر بھارت پاکستان کو توڑنے کی کوشش کررہا ہے جبکہ یہاں سے خیر سگالی کے پیغام بھیجے جارہے ہیں۔

تو آج بہت غصہ آرہا ہے لوگوں کو کہ زید حامد نے عمران خان کی پاک بھارت خارجہ پالیسی پر تنکید کی' ان
لوگوں کو یہ کیوں نہیں نظر آتا کہ بھارت نے آج تک کسی معاہدے کو ماننا تو دور کی بات پاکستان کے وجود
تک کو ایمانداری سے قبول نہیں کیا۔

پانی ہمارا بھارت نے روک رکھا ہے۔
کشمیر پر وہ بات کرنے کو تیار نہیں۔
بلوچستان میں بھارت نے فساد پھیلایا ہوا ہے۔

تو کون سی دوستی کی باتیں جب ہم برابری کی بنیاد پر بات نہیں کرسکتے۔ زید حامد نے بلکل ٹھیک تنکید کی ہے اسلیے عمران خان کو چاہیے کہ زرا نظر ثانی کرے اپنی پاک بھارت پالیسی پر۔ دوستی کی باتیں بہت اچھی ہیں اور ضرور کرے مگر اس سے پہلے ان مسائل پر بات کرے جن پر بھارت بات ہی نہیں کرنا چاہتا۔ اور اگر بھارت نہ کرنا چاہے تو گئی بھاڑ میں دوستی اور اعتماد کی کوششیں۔ بھارت ہمیں توڑ کردیکھ لے اور ہم بھارت کو توڑ کر دیکھ لیں گیں۔

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