Abdul Allah
Minister (2k+ posts)
Telling lies is worst than using abusive language. If you intentionally do not tell the truth when talking to the other participants - as indeed you should not because your molvi tell you so - then it is telling lies and wasting time. I replied to your baseless allegations few times, but it's not my fault if your mind is not receptive. It seems to me that you are not willing to understand simple things while trying to tell me unbelievable things like Isa(as) is still alive on heaven and will come back to lead the Ummah of Muhammad(saw) because his Jahil Ummah (god forbid) isn't able to produce any wise man or prophet. What a nonsense! Quran it self says that he came to BANI ISRAEL AS A PROPHET. Wake up buddy!!! My challange still stand there... PROVE it from Quran that Isa(as) is not dead. ONE AYAT.
Among the many false allegations which Mullas put against the Promised Messiah (A.S.) there is one allegation that he has used abusive language against the opponents. In order to prove their false allegations the opponents twist the facts and even wrongly translate some of the writings of Promised Messiah (A.S). One of such Anti-Ahmadiyya campaigner Dr. Rashid is used to extensively present following wrongly translated and wrongly interpreted quote from the writings of Promised Messiah :
The correct translation of above quote is :
- "Except for the CHILDREN OF PROSTITUTE, whose hearts have been sealed by God, everyone else believes in me and has accepted me." (Aina-e-Kamalat-e-Islam, Roohani Khazain vol.5 p.547)
"Every Muslim will accept me and will confirm my claim except the zurrayatul baghaya whose hearts will have been sealed up by God Almighty." (Aina-e-Kamalat-e-Islam, Roohani Khazain vol.5 p.547)
Just imagine the honesty of these Mullahs!! Now lets further examine what could be meant by the words "zurrayatul baghaya" here. These are the words which Mr. Rashid has translated as "CHILDREN OF PROSTITUTE".
Remember that in all languages of the world the words are used in two ways. Either they are taken as literal or they are treated as metaphorical. It is the context which explains that in what sense the author has used them.
To further explain it lets take examples of following verses of Holy Quran where Allah says that :
(Note: Translation of above verses taken from Non-Ahmadi source)
- "The worst of beasts in Allah's sight are the deaf, the dumb, who have no sense." (Holy Quran 8:22)
- At another place Allah says that "Those who were blind in this world will be blind in the Hereafter and most astray from the Path" (Holy Quran 17:72)
Can those who overemphasize on literal meanings of "zurrayatul baghaya" also take the words "Blind, Dumb and Deaf" expressed in the verses of Holy Quran quoted above as LITERAL?????
Certainly not !!! Then why they overemphasize on Literal Meaning of the words "zurrayatul baghaya"??? Actually they are the people with double standards. And they use their double standards in most evil manners in order to misguide the Servants of Allah (God).
Keeping above background in view lets examine the under discussion quote of Promised Messiah (A.S). Promised Messiah had written :
"Every Muslim will accept me and will confirm my claim except the zurrayatul baghaya whose hearts will have been sealed up by God Almighty." (Aina-e-Kamalat-e-Islam, Roohani Khazain vol.5 p.547)
According to Promised Messiah (A.S) those whose hearts are sealed by God will not accept him. Here one must note that :
In addition to above according to one of the most well known lexicon, Tajul Urus, the term "zurrayatul baghaya" is also used for a person who is deprived of guidance. The "Tajul Urus" clearly states that to call a person "zurrayatul baghaya" means that he is deprived of guidance.
- Sealing of heart by God is always used in metaphorical and spiritual sense. (Examples are available in Holy Quran as well). Thus the Promised Messiah (A.S) had made the meaning of "zurrayatul baghaya" very clear by explaining the spiritual state of nonbelievers rather than speaking about their materialistic /physical background.
- By simple logic whose hearts are sealed by God could only be those whose spiritual birth and up-bringing is filthy i.e. those who are evil by nature. In spiritual matters it does not make difference that from whose progeny one belong to. Holy Quran clearly explains this phenomenon by giving the example of the Son of Prophet Noah (A.S). God tells us that despite being the progeny of Prophet, his heart was sealed by God, due to his evil nature, and so he did not follow the right path.
The example of the opponents of Promised Messiah (A.S), who are day and night busy in uttering filth and falsehood against him, is best described in Holy Quran as : "His similitude is that of a dog: if you attack him he lolls out his tongue or if you leave him alone he (still) lolls out his tongue. That is the similitude of those who reject our signs; so relate the story; perchance they may reflect." (Holy Quran 7:176).
Ref:http://www.real-islam.org/reply/zur.htm
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Do not blindly follow your Murabis Please.
Did i show you Aina Kamalat??? NO NO NO NO
Then why you are using this book to prove that Zuratul Baghaya did not mean Kharaba Urtoon ke Ulaad
I have shown you Nur-HAq book and that book have Arabic and Urdu as well both by your source . PLEASE GO AND OPEN THAT BOOK WHICH I REFER.
I am not talking about Aina Kamalat book as you can hide the truth on that book by using the logic oh they wrongly translate it.
BUT BUT WHAT ABOUT NUR-ul-HAQ it is translated by yourself(your sources)
ANSWER us about Nur-ul-HAQ.
That is FUNNY Ehraz
It is just like a murderer said in court sir when on 16MAy that person was killed I was in dubai on 14th of May. Oh Come one open your eyes we are talking about 16May.
So open your EYES answer MY Reference Not what i never present
THINK THINK BEFORE IT IS TO LATE.