Kal Tak - 4th July 2011 - Imran Khan & Shaikh Rasheed - "If You Have Your Government?"
abbasiali
Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Kal Tak - 4th July 2011 - Imran Khan and Shaikh Rasheed
(clap)(clap)Yes my dear at last Imran has to ask me to help him, ih he is really honest with country.
I am impressed with your definition of Lotaism, you have different parameter of Lotaism, for Sheikh Rasheed is different SQM & Marvi etc etc is different, for me this definition is very simple and clear, those who are not faithful with one, they find reason for others also to be unfaithful.
BTW Imran is so much weak that in 15 years of Politics, he couldn't bring leadership in his party or he don't believe competition under same roof. So this shows how badly Imran have manage to hold full control of power under him and now since he don't find proper support from inside, he has to look for other Lotas.
lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Good for my PTI friends, because they simply love to say yes to Imran Khan..and I am sure now whole rejected crap will gather under leadership of Imran Khan......I believe that will be more worst....because every one will have signal to join PTI......So they will find easy to resign and quit their parties and positions and will be welcomed by PTI and its supporters, becasue this is the only parameter set by PTI leadership. they don't believe on accountability of these elements on their past...someone was faithful with Musharaf now will join IK, Some had enjoyed ministry now will join IK....and all this will happened in the greater interest of Pakistan.......please.........come on.........give me a break....please be nice and talk something which have some sense.......;);)
(clap)(clap)Yes my dear at last Imran has to ask me to help him, ih he is really honest with country.
I am impressed with your definition of Lotaism, you have different parameter of Lotaism, for Sheikh Rasheed is different SQM & Marvi etc etc is different, for me this definition is very simple and clear, those who are not faithful with one, they find reason for others also to be unfaithful.
BTW Imran is so much weak that in 15 years of Politics, he couldn't bring leadership in his party or he don't believe competition under same roof. So this shows how badly Imran have manage to hold full control of power under him and now since he don't find proper support from inside, he has to look for other Lotas.
lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Good for my PTI friends, because they simply love to say yes to Imran Khan..and I am sure now whole rejected crap will gather under leadership of Imran Khan......I believe that will be more worst....because every one will have signal to join PTI......So they will find easy to resign and quit their parties and positions and will be welcomed by PTI and its supporters, becasue this is the only parameter set by PTI leadership. they don't believe on accountability of these elements on their past...someone was faithful with Musharaf now will join IK, Some had enjoyed ministry now will join IK....and all this will happened in the greater interest of Pakistan.......please.........come on.........give me a break....please be nice and talk something which have some sense.......;);)
Re: Kal Tak - 4th July 2011 - Imran Khan and Shaikh Rasheed
I have no idea what your secret agenda is coz right now we have one honest leader and you are not ready to accept it. Not sure what future you have devised for Pakistan.
To answer your concern about IK not being able to gather leaders is that he has leaders, it's just that you don't know them coz people like you only recognize others as leaders if they are jageerdaars, waderas, corrupt, malcharactered, etc..... so atleast some of these qualities have to be fulfilled by a human before you will acknowledge the person as a leader. IK doesn't want to be with people like that.
As far as lotaism is concerned I believe you are talking about WORSHIP and not FAITHFULNESS. All politicians are required to have their first loyalty with PAKISTAN and then with their political leaders. If Marvi has resigned from PMLQ, it's a great move. I know its a politically beneficial move for her but at the same time, no one else has taken step like that. You so called leaders - 1,200 people sitting in parliament are all cowards and impot*nts. You want those kind of ppl to join IK but that is not possible.
I won't waste more time on you as its not my job to politically educate you but i do feel bad about your very immature kind of political knowledge. You don't even understand the kind of politics IK is doing coz your mind is stuck with the politics which has been given to Pakistan by corrupt Armymen and politicians. Imran is a leader and not merely a politician. All we can do is to hope and support. If he gives us unpleasant surprizes we will not keep on following him as we are not political worshippers. Then you'll call us all lotas as well. Try to think about what LOTA is.... work hard on this. In my opinion a lota would be who without any genuine reason, and without the reason of national interest, changes loyalties due to money or other non-monetary benefits for self. Please come out of the mentality that Party leader is a God. Please come out of that.
It's sooo strange....u don't even understand what you are writing... On one hand you are saying anyone leaving his/her party is a lota, on the other hand you are saying why IK couldn't get leaders. If he had brought these leaders, u'd say they are lotas and you don't recognize the leadership he has built within. So what do you want?
BTW, I am not gonig to respond you any further until you talk some.....atleast some sense. You just seem to b a PTI hater and a guy who has a lot of over-confidence. Come down to earth - think abt everything patiently and skillfully and then develop and nurture your political opinions. People on this forum usually don't criticize you coz you are a super moderator and i also know it... so if u want to remove my comment(s) that is fine... but just sit back and reassess your knowledge of politics as well as your sincerity for Pakistan.
I have no idea what your secret agenda is coz right now we have one honest leader and you are not ready to accept it. Not sure what future you have devised for Pakistan.
To answer your concern about IK not being able to gather leaders is that he has leaders, it's just that you don't know them coz people like you only recognize others as leaders if they are jageerdaars, waderas, corrupt, malcharactered, etc..... so atleast some of these qualities have to be fulfilled by a human before you will acknowledge the person as a leader. IK doesn't want to be with people like that.
As far as lotaism is concerned I believe you are talking about WORSHIP and not FAITHFULNESS. All politicians are required to have their first loyalty with PAKISTAN and then with their political leaders. If Marvi has resigned from PMLQ, it's a great move. I know its a politically beneficial move for her but at the same time, no one else has taken step like that. You so called leaders - 1,200 people sitting in parliament are all cowards and impot*nts. You want those kind of ppl to join IK but that is not possible.
I won't waste more time on you as its not my job to politically educate you but i do feel bad about your very immature kind of political knowledge. You don't even understand the kind of politics IK is doing coz your mind is stuck with the politics which has been given to Pakistan by corrupt Armymen and politicians. Imran is a leader and not merely a politician. All we can do is to hope and support. If he gives us unpleasant surprizes we will not keep on following him as we are not political worshippers. Then you'll call us all lotas as well. Try to think about what LOTA is.... work hard on this. In my opinion a lota would be who without any genuine reason, and without the reason of national interest, changes loyalties due to money or other non-monetary benefits for self. Please come out of the mentality that Party leader is a God. Please come out of that.
It's sooo strange....u don't even understand what you are writing... On one hand you are saying anyone leaving his/her party is a lota, on the other hand you are saying why IK couldn't get leaders. If he had brought these leaders, u'd say they are lotas and you don't recognize the leadership he has built within. So what do you want?
BTW, I am not gonig to respond you any further until you talk some.....atleast some sense. You just seem to b a PTI hater and a guy who has a lot of over-confidence. Come down to earth - think abt everything patiently and skillfully and then develop and nurture your political opinions. People on this forum usually don't criticize you coz you are a super moderator and i also know it... so if u want to remove my comment(s) that is fine... but just sit back and reassess your knowledge of politics as well as your sincerity for Pakistan.
abbasiali
Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Kal Tak - 4th July 2011 - Imran Khan and Shaikh Rasheed
So talking truth is "SECRET AGENDA" very old language........honest leader....probably you have not seen the history of Pakistani Politics or Pakistani Leaders, other wise wouldn't pass such type of remarks........it seems, its a total waste of time, if someone start making personal instead of replying on the subject......anyways carry on......I thought this time, I wolud be debating with some one, who have some knowledge with back ground......but its same.baseless accusations....just keep portraying an individual as GOD.......no care for the country and people who are dying of hunger.........only point scoring.......keep on doing my friend........this is the destiny of our people.........you are not different from others........anyways thanks for making personal........however just keep in your mind........You were talking to a Pakistani, who really think for his origin country and people first......but probably it will take time for you to understand this think........take care..........;);););)
So talking truth is "SECRET AGENDA" very old language........honest leader....probably you have not seen the history of Pakistani Politics or Pakistani Leaders, other wise wouldn't pass such type of remarks........it seems, its a total waste of time, if someone start making personal instead of replying on the subject......anyways carry on......I thought this time, I wolud be debating with some one, who have some knowledge with back ground......but its same.baseless accusations....just keep portraying an individual as GOD.......no care for the country and people who are dying of hunger.........only point scoring.......keep on doing my friend........this is the destiny of our people.........you are not different from others........anyways thanks for making personal........however just keep in your mind........You were talking to a Pakistani, who really think for his origin country and people first......but probably it will take time for you to understand this think........take care..........;);););)
InsafianPTI
Minister (2k+ posts)
Good programme, Thanks God they didn't start talking about blame game, They talked about 'Real Policies'. Weldone keep it up this is what we need. We need more programmes like that. And more anchors should do such programmes, Sick of listening about MQM nakhray and their blackmailing.
AdnanBhangu
Citizen
Imran vs Sheikh,Imran sb apnay saabqa comments ki kuttch to laj rakho
pardese
Minister (2k+ posts)
I salut imran khan for his courage ,hardwor and plan,he is the only politition with out any ministarial background,eveybody statrs theri parties with some posts or ministries like pppp with bhato, foreign minister in ayoub khan govt,pmln chief minister on punjab in zia govt,plm q chaudires with chief minsitr pervez and pm shujaat,APML with presden musharf,aml league with shekhr rasheed fomer minister,etc but this guy is awsom he is very hard worker and that is why pakistani corrupt politions not ready to accept him as a leader,he made shaukat khanum,numl which affiliated with Bradford univeristy of uk and the only no mp serving VC of Bradford university uk,the wiNner of world cup,a very brave man,he is a complet structure of party in all over the world,if this guy become the pm minister then we can hope of progress otherwise,Pakistan ka ALLAH hi hafiz he,ppp ke corrupt log pakistan ko sale karlengy.
Re: Kal Tak - 4th July 2011 - Imran Khan and Shaikh Rasheed
I didn't get personal except for telling you that you didn't make any sense. This is not getting personal. In your comments and even the one I am quoting above, you never give any solid example. Now again you are talking about Pakistani history and leaders but not quoting any leader from our history. Why don't you name one???? I don't want to argue on who out of us 2 knows more about politics and is more patriotic. You have a high level of access to this forum so why don't u pull my comments from past and urz as well, compare and see who has more knowledge and patriotism.
I didn't get personal except for telling you that you didn't make any sense. This is not getting personal. In your comments and even the one I am quoting above, you never give any solid example. Now again you are talking about Pakistani history and leaders but not quoting any leader from our history. Why don't you name one???? I don't want to argue on who out of us 2 knows more about politics and is more patriotic. You have a high level of access to this forum so why don't u pull my comments from past and urz as well, compare and see who has more knowledge and patriotism.
abbasiali
Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Kal Tak - 4th July 2011 - Imran Khan and Shaikh Rasheed
Well my friend.............don't go very hard..........take it easy....it is quite obvious, when you have, your mind close, nothing will either make sense or will look like solid...........for you, I will recommend you to try to own Pakistan & Pakistanis........don't consider PTI & Imran Khan as Pakistan and Imran Khan & PTI followers as Pakistanis.......Pakistan & Pakistanis are suffering and they serious people...........not those who only plays dirty politics.............lolzzzzzzzzzz
Don't be personal..........hahahahaha...........and please don't start writing again in favor of yourself..........pretending as not being personal to me..........lolzzzzzzzz.......FYI.......People have now started own Pakistan...........so what ever propaganda for an individual you guys are trying to bring will not be successful. Again own Pakistan and behave like Patriot Pakistani.........don't be remain a puppet for an individual......I will welcome your reply if you make sense..........otherwise don't expect any response from me...........because I hate to waste my time on crap.............lolzzzzzzzzz
Well my friend.............don't go very hard..........take it easy....it is quite obvious, when you have, your mind close, nothing will either make sense or will look like solid...........for you, I will recommend you to try to own Pakistan & Pakistanis........don't consider PTI & Imran Khan as Pakistan and Imran Khan & PTI followers as Pakistanis.......Pakistan & Pakistanis are suffering and they serious people...........not those who only plays dirty politics.............lolzzzzzzzzzz
Don't be personal..........hahahahaha...........and please don't start writing again in favor of yourself..........pretending as not being personal to me..........lolzzzzzzzz.......FYI.......People have now started own Pakistan...........so what ever propaganda for an individual you guys are trying to bring will not be successful. Again own Pakistan and behave like Patriot Pakistani.........don't be remain a puppet for an individual......I will welcome your reply if you make sense..........otherwise don't expect any response from me...........because I hate to waste my time on crap.............lolzzzzzzzzz
rahat mirza
Citizen
Imran definitely has a program and he always has revolutionary ideas. But sheikh sb looks like a bazari politician who's ideas are no more than a street talk without a vision for future. This tried out and tired horse can only bring chaos to the suffering nation.
Re: Kal Tak - 4th July 2011 - Imran Khan and Shaikh Rasheed
Yeah, I think we should stop the debate coz you didn't really provide anything in your comments except for "hahahha's", "lolzzzzzz" and same kind of baseless "in air" comments. I invited you to provide a solution but u never have, in any of your comments today or in past, on this program or any in the past. U just come out criticizing everyone --- only problems and no solution....
Yeah, I think we should stop the debate coz you didn't really provide anything in your comments except for "hahahha's", "lolzzzzzz" and same kind of baseless "in air" comments. I invited you to provide a solution but u never have, in any of your comments today or in past, on this program or any in the past. U just come out criticizing everyone --- only problems and no solution....
abbasiali
Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Kal Tak - 4th July 2011 - Imran Khan and Shaikh Rasheed
lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
This is the maximum I can gie you my friend...........lolzzzzzz.......because you guys are not serious, living in dream world........who ever will say anything, will not look into that and then again and again will keep asking, what you said, what was the subject........tooooooooo bad for you..........better keep quite and remain in your world of fantasy.............hahahahaha
I am sorry to my self, I again waste my time.......lolzzzzzzzz.......next time hopefully........I will convince myself.....I am not dealing with serious person......;););)
lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
This is the maximum I can gie you my friend...........lolzzzzzz.......because you guys are not serious, living in dream world........who ever will say anything, will not look into that and then again and again will keep asking, what you said, what was the subject........tooooooooo bad for you..........better keep quite and remain in your world of fantasy.............hahahahaha
I am sorry to my self, I again waste my time.......lolzzzzzzzz.......next time hopefully........I will convince myself.....I am not dealing with serious person......;););)
