Islamic marriage or Indian marriage?

[lllcolumbuslll]

پاکستانی شادیوں میں ھندوانہ رسم و رواج۔ کیا انہیں اسلامی شادی کہا جا سکتا ھے? کیا شادی صرف نکاح کی حد تک ھی اسلامی ھے? جب نام نہاد لیڈر ھی مثال نہ بن سکیں تو پھر عوام سے کس سے رھنمائی لیں۔ یہی رسم و رواج بہت سے مڈل کلاس غریبوں کے لئے گھر میں بیٹی ھونا ایک زحمت بن چکا ھے۔ کیا ھر مرد اتنا غیرت مند ھو سکتا ھے کہ جہیز لینے سے انکار کر دے۔
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[GraanG2]

Yeh kab hua ?

 

[lllcolumbuslll]

Yeh kab hua ?

ye kisi zamany mein hova tha. is ka faida kuch bhi nahi hova. khaya piyaa kuch nahi glass toray 12 aanay.

note: please stick to the topic. thanks

 

[GraanG2]

ye kisi zamany mein hova tha. is ka faida kuch bhi nahi hova. khaya piyaa kuch nahi glass toray 12 aanay.

note: please stick to the topic. thanks

hahaha...Ok...To be honest I think we have so many misunderstandings of Islamic way of weddings that this has become very common in Pakistan now...And I personally think this is his personal issue.This wont harm anyone or violate human rights.Everyone should learn from Authentic ahadees to learn about Islamic way of marriage,not looking to these pictures.So I will skip commenting on this.

And one more thing If you come up with a thread regarding How should weddings be held according to Islam,We can discuss it in the light of Quran and Ahadees.But having someone's wedding pics is making ur thread controversial and will lead us somewhere else.Peace.

I am sure someone is looking hard for the Nawaz Sharif's wedding pics...lolz

 

[dukelondon]

This will make the thread go in some other direction. Anyways, Religion and culture are two different things. We are Muslims but we are not Arabs. As long as we are not doing something that is SPECIFICALLY FORBIDDEN in the Quran, its fine. Some people fail to make a distinction between Arabs and Muslims. All Arabs are not Muslims. Christian Arabs also follow certain Arab traditions. Similarly all Muslims are not Arabs. If you want us to become Arabs, thats not going to happen.

 

[wanderer]

I dont think posting Altaf's pics as an example was a good idea. This will make the thread go in some other direction. Anyways, Religion and culture are two different things. We are Muslims but we are not Arabs. As long as we are not doing something that is SPECIFICALLY FORBIDDEN in the Quran, its fine. Some people fail to make a distinction between Arabs and Muslims. All Arabs are not Muslims. Christian Arabs also follow certain Arab traditions. Similarly all Muslims are not Arabs. If you want us to become Arabs, thats not going to happen.

Many things that we've picked up from the Hindu culture have become a part of us. Even when the Quran says other wise ... its still being performed here.

 

[wanderer]

پاکستانی شادیوں میں ھندوانہ رسم و رواج۔ کیا انہیں اسلامی شادی کہا جا سکتا ھے? کیا شادی صرف نکاح کی حد تک ھی اسلامی ھے? جب نام نہاد لیڈر ھی مثال نہ بن سکیں تو پھر عوام سے کس سے رھنمائی لیں۔ یہی رسم و رواج بہت سے مڈل کلاس غریبوں کے لئے گھر میں بیٹی ھونا ایک زحمت بن چکا ھے۔ کیا ھر مرد اتنا غیرت مند ھو سکتا ھے کہ جہیز لینے سے انکار کر دے۔
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The question would be, do we know the difference between what customs are taken from the Hindus and incorporated into our culture.
Few months back there was a thread regarding the taboos of out society. This is similar to it. The question is can people name these "taken" chores ???

 

[samar]

پاکستانی شادیوں میں ھندوانہ رسم و رواج۔ کیا انہیں اسلامی شادی کہا جا سکتا ھے? کیا شادی صرف نکاح کی حد تک ھی اسلامی ھے? جب نام نہاد لیڈر ھی مثال نہ بن سکیں تو پھر عوام سے کس سے رھنمائی لیں۔ یہی رسم و رواج بہت سے مڈل کلاس غریبوں کے لئے گھر میں بیٹی ھونا ایک زحمت بن چکا ھے۔ کیا ھر مرد اتنا غیرت مند ھو سکتا ھے کہ جہیز لینے سے انکار کر دے۔
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Kion inkaar krey bhai ye to sunnat he ........

ye mard ki nhi aurat ki hi demaand hotee he jo mard ki maan hotee he, aisa nhi hona chahey larki k maan baap jo aoni marzee se dena chahen vo de dain....

ye unki beti ka haq he.

baki aik ore baat b he agar larkey valey jahez ko daikhtey hain to larki valey b to larky valoon k maal o daulat daikhtey hain...........

aik sharif magar ghareeb larkey ko kon rishta deta he ???????

is pe b ghore karain tali dono haatho se bajti he masla larkey ore larki ka nhi is maashrey ka he jisney paiso me sochna shuru kr diya he thats negative approach...........

as a whole in society larki valey b apni larki baichney k chakar me hote hain aik ameer khandaan me ore larkey valey b apney betey ka sauda kr rahey hotey hain jahez k badley me...........

jin rishtoon ki bunyaad hawas ore lalach pe rakhee jatee ho gee kia unhain b koiee sunaat keh sakta he.........bs hmaree niyat b achey ko bura bna detee he.

niyaat aik sunnat zinda krna ho ore ghar basana ho naik aulaad ho to phir theek he.

 

[canadian]

Many things that we've picked up from the Hindu culture have become a part of us. Even when the Quran says other wise ... its still being performed here.

Thats true.I attended two marriages of my near ones sometime back.They were straight out of some Indian movie.Since I attended these marriages in Pakistan after a very long time it was really an eye opener.So many unecessary functions,waste of time and money....it's
mind boggling.Another thing that really bothers me is how ordinary people can afford all that ????????/

 

[canadian]

Kion inkaar krey bhai ye to sunnat he ........

ye mard ki nhi aurat ki hi demaand hotee he jo mard ki maan hotee he, aisa nhi hona chahey larki k maan baap jo aoni marzee se dena chahen vo de dain....

ye unki beti ka haq he.

baki aik ore baat b he agar larkey valey jahez ko daikhtey hain to larki valey b to larky valoon k maal o daulat daikhtey hain...........

aik sharif magar ghareeb larkey ko kon rishta deta he ???????

is pe b ghore karain tali dono haatho se bajti he masla larkey ore larki ka nhi is maashrey ka he jisney paiso me sochna shuru kr diya he thats negative approach...........

as a whole in society larki valey b apni larki baichney k chakar me hote hain aik ameer khandaan me ore larkey valey b apney betey ka sauda kr rahey hotey hain jahez k badley me...........

jin rishtoon ki bunyaad hawas ore lalach pe rakhee jatee ho gee kia unhain b koiee sunaat keh sakta he.........bs hmaree niyat b achey ko bura bna detee he.

niyaat aik sunnat zinda krna ho ore ghar basana ho naik aulaad ho to phir theek he.

What an unfortunate thing.Obsolutely against the basic principles of our Religion !!

 

[M Ali Khan]

This will make the thread go in some other direction. Anyways, Religion and culture are two different things. We are Muslims but we are not Arabs. As long as we are not doing something that is SPECIFICALLY FORBIDDEN in the Quran, its fine. Some people fail to make a distinction between Arabs and Muslims. All Arabs are not Muslims. Christian Arabs also follow certain Arab traditions. Similarly all Muslims are not Arabs. If you want us to become Arabs, thats not going to happen.

Exactly! If people want to celebrate a marriage in any way they want (as long as nothing obscene or harmful is done) let them do it.

Their lives, their choice, their decision. Live and let live.

 

[wanderer]

Thats true.I attended two marriages of my near ones sometime back.They were straight out of some Indian movie.Since I attended these marriages in Pakistan after a very long time it was really an eye opener.So many unecessary functions,waste of time and money....it's
mind boggling.Another thing that really bothers me is how ordinary people can afford all that ????????/

everyone affords it :)

 

[wanderer]

Exactly! If people want to celebrate a marriage in any way they want (as long as nothing obscene or harmful is done) let them do it.

Their lives, their choice, their decision. Live and let live.

since when did the Pakistani society let others LIVE and let LIVE ???

 

[canadian]

everyone affords it :)

@
wanderer
How ?
Beg,Borrow and steal ?

 

[wanderer]

@
wanderer
How ?
Beg,Borrow and steal ?

ji bilqul.. :) those that liv big toh araaaaaaaam say kar laytay hain...aur waysay bhie.. normal life bhie toh begged, borrowed and steal......

 

[M Ali Khan]

since when did the Pakistani society let others LIVE and let LIVE ???

then the problem lies with our Muashra and Awam doesn't it? ;)

aisay muashrey aur awam ka kya saath dena jo har doosrey k maamley mein apni taang arrata hai!

 

[wanderer]

then the problem lies with our Muashra and Awam doesn't it? ;)

aisay muashrey aur awam ka kya saath dena jo har doosrey k maamley mein apni taang arrata hai!

""""""""Exactly! If people want to celebrate a marriage in any way they want (as long as nothing obscene or harmful is done) let them do it.

Their lives, their choice, their decision. Live and let live. """""""""""""""""""

U urself, just instructed the post-er to ... live and let live.

This Pakistani soceity does not permit that, nor can those sleep well.. if they havent put their foot in others matters. So.....

 

[M Ali Khan]

""""""""Exactly! If people want to celebrate a marriage in any way they want (as long as nothing obscene or harmful is done) let them do it.

Their lives, their choice, their decision. Live and let live. """""""""""""""""""

U urself, just instructed the post-er to ... live and let live.

This Pakistani soceity does not permit that, nor can those sleep well.. if they havent put their foot in others matters. So.....

like I said, the real PROBLEM lies not in one man, but with whole of SOCIETY :)

and this muashra will not change unfortunately!

 

[wanderer]

like I said, the real PROBLEM lies not in one man, but with whole of SOCIETY :)

and this muashra will not change unfortunately!

if everyone starts at home, maashra khud theek ho jaeyega.. coz in the end.. Maaashra toh hum say hi develop hota hai..

 

[M Ali Khan]

if everyone starts at home, maashra khud theek ho jaeyega.. coz in the end.. Maaashra toh hum say hi develop hota hai..

beyshak, laikin doosroun ko bila-wajah JUDGE karna humara qaumi khel hai!

mein judge nahin karta, umeed hai aap bhi nahin kartey :)