Indian recruiter hate Pakistan candidates in Gulf Job market..........

[chandbibi]

UK to khud doobti naiya hain. UK me pakistanis don't behave like pakistanis. Waise bhi sab pakistan ek baar pakistan se bahar chale jate hai then they don't want to do anything which jeopardizes their position abroad. USA is the world's only superpower as on date. Waha par Indians ki position jo aaj hai woh koi dankhi chupi nahi hai. And there are reasons for it. Yeh H1b kya hai? That is a transient population. I am not talking about that category of people. There is a class of Indians in the US who are a cut above the rest. They are the ones who are going to have outreach with India. And our goal is not H1B. That is something which works in the short term but its not in our long term plan. In the long term Indians will work for India.

Nahi milay ga na !...Kiyoonkay, Pakistani companies dont hire Pakistanis for cheap and start shipping them to the US to take over american jobs that will threaten the job market in the US.

Thats why its way easier to get a green card in US as a Pakistani than an Indian on H-1B :biggthumpup:

This brain gain is only Indian companies gaining cheap labor and not anykind of real brain gain.

yes, you and a lot of other communities have worked hard too ...Pakistanis have an EDGE in UK politics - So what ?(bigsmile)

 

[chandbibi]

Aray magar ye India ka mamla hai, tum kyu apni raton ki neend kharab kar rahe ho. Tumhe to saudi arabia ne ban hee kar dia. Ab tumhara kya hoga. [hilar]

To yehi to musla bana hua hai ...kay Hindu girls jo dhoondhti hain woh unkay parents aur society ko pasand nahi hai [hilar][hilar] ....Tabhi to phir parents ko monk dhoondhna perta hai ...mager Hindu girl phir bhi yehi kehti hai kay "I will only marry this Muslim" [hilar][hilar]

App kitna jhooth sikhao gay ...akhir hum sach bol ker yakeen dilwa hi daytay hain [hilar][hilar] ....Dekhain ager Hum nay khayal kerna chore diya to Hindu girls ko kon bachayega ...wesay India mein to un bechariyon ka kiya haal horaha hai ....yeh to Rape Capital ki pehchaan hai :biggthumpup:

 

[modern.fakir]

Acha UK doob raha hai to US konsa ubherta hua sitara hai .[hilar]....US ka haal to UK say bhi bura hai ....fiscal deficit check kiya hai kitna hai inka (bigsmile) ??

Tent cities check hi major urban centers kay baher ??...Medicare to i rather not go there :biggthumpup:

US super power tha ...is waqt dissolve horaha hai aur China super power ban raha hai !

Muslims europe mein phail rahay hain and we already have Turkey as our Partner in Nato and we are pushing the turks to join the European Union (bigsmile)

Dekhaina zara ...UK mein political clout ho, Europe mein Large Muslim country turkey ho, and several small muslim states with every major country having 10 - 20 % muslim population to kitna acha lagaye ga europe in a few years [hilar][hilar]

Like i said Indians and a lot of other races are well represented in the US but the US still doesnt trust India and it never will. Devyani episode kiyoon bhool jate ho :biggthumpup:

App akhir mein akaylay reh jaogay sirf HUM hi hongay as usual apsay deal kernay kay liay (bigsmile)

UK to khud doobti naiya hain. UK me pakistanis don't behave like pakistanis. Waise bhi sab pakistan ek baar pakistan se bahar chale jate hai then they don't want to do anything which jeopardizes their position abroad. USA is the world's only superpower as on date. Waha par Indians ki position jo aaj hai woh koi dankhi chupi nahi hai. And there are reasons for it. Yeh H1b kya hai? That is a transient population. I am not talking about that category of people. There is a class of Indians in the US who are a cut above the rest. They are the ones who are going to have outreach with India. And our goal is not H1B. That is something which works in the short term but its not in our long term plan. In the long term Indians will work for India.

 

[modern.fakir]

Aray India ka muamla hai ...to phir hum Pakistanion ko kiyoon tung ker rahay hao ....apni lerkiyoon ko sambhalo ...woh to humein dekthay hi Shadi...shadi kerna shuru kerdayti hain [hilar][hilar]

ab dekhaina Pakistani kitna demand mein hai ....Pakistani men to Hindu girls ...Shadi Shadi kerti hain aur Pakistani Women ko Saudi Shadi shadi kehtay hain ...

Yahan tuk kay Itni shadiyaan ki hai Gulf kay arabs nay pakistan mein kay ab unki government kehti hai bhai kisi Arab woman say bhi shaadi kerlo [hilar][hilar][hilar]

Dekha apnay ACHAY logon ki yeh Pehchaan hoti hai .....Log door say atay hain Shadi kernay kay liay ...aur izzat say ley ker jatay hain [hilar][hilar]

Aray magar ye India ka mamla hai, tum kyu apni raton ki neend kharab kar rahe ho. Tumhe to saudi arabia ne ban hee kar dia. Ab tumhara kya hoga. [hilar]

 

[سعد]

مئی نیم یس از خان اینڈ آئی ایم پاکستانی سر۔ لیکن میرا نام ان کے شہر کا بھی نام ھے ہو سکتا ہے یہی وجہ ہو۔ واللہ و عالم

بم خان؟؟؟؟
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bam,_Iran

 

[chandbibi]

Haha. Fakir this is an allegation. Read the article well.
"Infosys denies and disputes any claims of systemic visa fraud, misuse of visas for competitive advantage or immigration abuse. Those claims are untrue and are assertions that remain unproven," Infosys said in a statement.
The company emphasized that the allegations were not criminal, and that there would be no limitations on its eligibility for U.S. federal contracts or access to U.S. visa programs as a result of the settlement.

One reason the Justice Department decided to settle its allegations rather than try to prove them at trial was that Infosys took steps to fix irregularities and agree to outside monitoring, said U.S. Attorney John Bales of the Eastern District of Texas.
Bales said the Justice Department had anecdotal evidence that problems with I-9 forms - used to verify employment eligibility - and visa forms were common in the tech services industry. While he would not confirm that there are other open cases, he said others should pay attention to the Infosys settlement.
"They do acknowledge that there are problems with their I-9 process, and that however it happened - unintentional or not - their visa practice had some irregularities," Bales told Reuters in a phone interview. "They have pledged to be more accurate."
"We've learned a lot in the case, and we're going to use that knowledge," he said.
And Infosys is still going great guns. See their share price.:biggthumpup:

Here you go ...Chore machaye shor mager rangay hathoan pakra gia ...This is one company and any more are under investigation ...:biggthumpup:

India's Infosys to pay $34 million in U.S. visa case

BY HARICHANDAN ARAKALI AND DAVID INGRAM
BANGALORE/WASHINGTON Fri Nov 8, 2013 7:35am EST

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(Reuters) - Tech services giant Infosys Ltd (INFY.NS) agreed on Wednesday to pay $34 million to end a U.S. investigation related to the widespread practice by Indian firms of flying workers to client sites in the United States on temporary visas.
The settlement, which the U.S. Justice Department said was the largest in a case of alleged civil fraud over visas, was filed in U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Texas.
Infosys, India's second-largest IT services exporter, agreed in the settlement that it committed civil violations of U.S. employment law, but it was not required to admit and did not admit widespread further wrongdoing.
"Infosys denies and disputes any claims of systemic visa fraud, misuse of visas for competitive advantage or immigration abuse. Those claims are untrue and are assertions that remain unproven," Infosys said in a statement.
The company emphasized that the allegations were not criminal, and that there would be no limitations on its eligibility for U.S. federal contracts or access to U.S. visa programs as a result of the settlement.
The Justice Department had alleged in court papers that Infosys knowingly and unlawfully sent people to work without proper visas, that there were widespread failures in the company's record-keeping and that the company tried to deceive U.S. consular officials with false "invitation letters", which tell the government the purpose of travel.
One invitation letter from May 2010 for someone identified in court papers as "AR" said the person "would be involved in meetings and business discussions," but the real purpose of the trip was for computer coding and programming, the Justice Department said.
One reason the Justice Department decided to settle its allegations rather than try to prove them at trial was that Infosys took steps to fix irregularities and agree to outside monitoring, said U.S. Attorney John Bales of the Eastern District of Texas.
Bales said the Justice Department had anecdotal evidence that problems with I-9 forms - used to verify employment eligibility - and visa forms were common in the tech services industry. While he would not confirm that there are other open cases, he said others should pay attention to the Infosys settlement.
"They do acknowledge that there are problems with their I-9 process, and that however it happened - unintentional or not - their visa practice had some irregularities," Bales told Reuters in a phone interview. "They have pledged to be more accurate."
"We've learned a lot in the case, and we're going to use that knowledge," he said.
U.S. lawmakers are considering legislation that would make it more difficult and costly for Indian IT firms to send workers to the United States on temporary, restricted visas.
Infosys employs roughly 15,000 people in the United States. As of March 31, about 10,800 of those were on H-1B visas, which allow an employee to stay and work in the United States up to six years, and 1,600 were on temporary L-1 visas, a company filing said.
The U.S. investigation focused on the use of B-1 business visas and I-9 forms, Infosys has said. A person on a B-1 visa in the United States can participate in meetings but is not allowed to work.
"It is likely to add more fuel to the ongoing debate around visa reforms," Chirajeet Sengupta, practice director in Gurgaon, near New Delhi, at Everest Group, which advises clients on technology vendors, said on Tuesday after reports that a settlement was imminent.
"These reforms, if executed, have the potential to impact Indian service providers' landed resource model that is largely driven by access to H-1B visas in large numbers," he said.
In its statement, Infosys said only .02 percent of the days that Infosys staff worked on U.S. projects last year were performed by people on B-1 visas.
"The Company's use of B-1 visas was for legitimate business purposes and not in any way intended to circumvent the requirements of the H-1B program," the Bangalore-based company said.
Infosys has secured roughly one B-1 visa for every 10 H-1B visas, according to a person with direct knowledge of the matter who declined to be identified.
U.S. authorities had been looking into Infosys' use of visas since 2011. This month, Infosys set aside a reserve of $35 million, including legal fees, as it worked towards a resolution of the U.S. investigation.
The case is "an important event in the annals of Indian IT industry," Sundararaman Viswanathan, a consultant in Bangalore with Zinnov, which advises U.S. corporations on sending outsourcing work to India, said ahead of the settlement.
"This is a common issue amongst all the Indian service providers - just that Infosys had to deal with it," he said.
"Though the Indian service providers do not intend to flout the visa regulations, there was definitely a lack of regard for certain norms and procedures. This will be fixed. There will be an increase in onsite hiring," he said.
(The story corrects the location of Everest Group consultant in 15th paragraph as Gurgaon, not Mumbai)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/08/us-infosys-settlement-idUSBRE9A70IC20131108

 

[modern.fakir]

Allegation kay 34 million diyay hain ?? [hilar] [hilar] ....If they had done nothing wrong then what was the reason for paying this amount ?

What "irregularities" did they correct ??.....Kiya chori kerkay samaan wapis kernay say chori khatm nahi hojati !

Kabhi "criminal" bhi apni ghalati maanta hai ?? [hilar][hilar] ...Saza hogai thi and you paid ...thats it !...It proves fraud no matter what you say !

[h=1]Timid Indian Press Sucks Up to Infosys, Ignores Visa Fraud Investigation[/h]

Don Tennant | FROM UNDER THE RUG | POSTED 14 JAN, 2013

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Last week, Infosys held a lengthy press conference in India to discuss its financial results for its third quarter, which ended on Dec. 31. And once again, the Indian press demonstrated its meekness by failing to compel Infosys executives to address the dark cloud hanging over the company as it awaits the outcome of the U.S. government’s visa and tax fraud investigation.
Infosys posted the archived video of the press conference on its website, and I forced myself to sit through all 57 minutes and 15 seconds of it. It was absolutely excruciating. The entire Infosys senior management team was present, and the assembled press had a golden opportunity to ask the tough questions that were screaming to be asked. Instead, they chose to lob softball, adulatory questions in an embarrassing display of sycophancy that does nothing but feed the arrogance Infosys has displayed since Oct. 11, 2010, the day Infosys employee Jay Palmer blew the whistle on the company.
It was almost as if the Infosys executives came up with the questions they wanted to be asked, and the reporters eagerly jumped at the chance to ask them. Just to give you an idea of what it was like, here are some of the actual questions that were asked:

• “The mood of management is quite upbeat today. Basically, under-promising and overachieving is what Infosys has been doing so far. … Despite [the global economic environment] Infosys has done relatively better this quarter. What are the factors that are working in favor of you, especially in Europe? We see you have done quite nicely—you seem to be riding against the storm in Europe.”
• “I’m just curious to know, you won 14 deals in the products and platforms space—can you tell me what’s the contract value for those 14 deals?”
• “Why do you think the stock price is going up despite your 3.6 percent [revenue growth]?”
• “This year, how does Infosys plan to add greater value to your customers in terms of new, disruptive technologies?”

Almost incomprehensibly, the reporters made absolutely no attempt to get the Infosys executives to address the U.S. government’s investigation. Nothing whatsoever was mentioned about the alleged violations or what Infosys is doing to correct the situation that prompted this intensive, multi-agency investigation. Nothing. It was pathetic.
Here are some of the questions that needed to be asked, and would have been if only the reporters could have summoned the courage and professionalism to ask them:

• Jay Palmer, the Infosys employee whose whistleblower report sparked the U.S. government’s investigation of alleged immigration and tax fraud at Infosys, has been languishing on the bench for nearly two years. Why is that the case?
• Does Infosys have any intention of assigning Palmer to a project?
• You acknowledged in your IFRS Earnings Release for the quarter ending Dec. 31, 2012, that Infosys “has been advised that the DHS has found errors in a significant percentage of its Forms I-9 that the DHS has reviewed, and the [U.S.] government may seek to impose fines and penalties on the company in connection with such alleged errors.” To what do you attribute these errors, and what specifically is Infosys doing to correct the situation?
• You noted in the Earnings Release that in connection with the grand jury subpoena for certain documents and records related to your sponsorships for, and uses of, B1 business visas, you’ve been advised by the U.S. Attorney’s Office that Infosys “and certain of its employees are targets of the investigation.” Can you identify which employees are being investigated?
• You stated in your Earnings Release, “In the event that any government undertakes any actions which limit any visa program that the company utilizes, or imposes sanctions, fines or penalties on the company or its employees, this could materially and adversely affect the company’s business and results of operations.” What do you see as the best- and worst-case scenarios stemming from the U.S. government’s investigation and your ongoing discussions with the U.S. Attorney’s Office?
• In light of the U.S. government’s investigation, what specific steps have you taken to ensure that Infosys is fully compliant with all U.S. immigration and tax laws?
• Given the nature of the alleged abuses, is Infosys at all concerned that the SEC will conduct an investigation of the company, independent of the investigation jointly conducted by DHS, the Department of State, and the U.S. Attorney’s Office?
• In hindsight, what should Infosys have done differently that might have avoided the U.S. government’s investigation of the company and certain of its employees?

So allow me to address the press in India directly. I know that many of you read my blog, and I’m certain that some of you who were at that press conference will read this post. Let me ask you, and invite your responses: Why didn’t you ask any of those questions? Why did you let Infosys off the hook?

Haha. Fakir this is an allegation. Read the article well.
"Infosys denies and disputes any claims of systemic visa fraud, misuse of visas for competitive advantage or immigration abuse. Those claims are untrue and are assertions that remain unproven," Infosys said in a statement.
The company emphasized that the allegations were not criminal, and that there would be no limitations on its eligibility for U.S. federal contracts or access to U.S. visa programs as a result of the settlement.

One reason the Justice Department decided to settle its allegations rather than try to prove them at trial was that Infosys took steps to fix irregularities and agree to outside monitoring, said U.S. Attorney John Bales of the Eastern District of Texas.
Bales said the Justice Department had anecdotal evidence that problems with I-9 forms - used to verify employment eligibility - and visa forms were common in the tech services industry. While he would not confirm that there are other open cases, he said others should pay attention to the Infosys settlement.
"They do acknowledge that there are problems with their I-9 process, and that however it happened - unintentional or not - their visa practice had some irregularities," Bales told Reuters in a phone interview. "They have pledged to be more accurate."
"We've learned a lot in the case, and we're going to use that knowledge," he said.
And Infosys is still going great guns. See their share price.:biggthumpup:

 

[chandbibi]

Actually Europe is a dead place. Isliye to Muslims waha phail rahay hain. Muslims failne se kya fayda hone wala hai is duniya ka? China ko time lagega in becoming a real super power. Reason is again population and other problems they have. China is hated in asia. Only you love China just because u generally love all rogues. [hilar] US to bahut kuch karke pachtaye hai magar Pakistan to kabhi sorry bola unhone? Hame bolte hain. Yeh difference hai aapme aur ham mein. Muslims apas me kabhi ek nahi ho sakte hain, because (bigsmile) well you just got banned by Saudi. lolz. And look at the condition of the muslim world. Its chaos.

Acha UK doob raha hai to US konsa ubherta hua sitara hai .[hilar]....US ka haal to UK say bhi bura hai ....fiscal deficit check kiya hai kitna hai inka (bigsmile) ??

Tent cities check hi major urban centers kay baher ??...Medicare to i rather not go there :biggthumpup:

US super power tha ...is waqt dissolve horaha hai aur China super power ban raha hai !

Muslims europe mein phail rahay hain and we already have Turkey as our Partner in Nato and we are pushing the turks to join the European Union (bigsmile)

Dekhaina zara ...UK mein political clout ho, Europe mein Large Muslim country turkey ho, and several small muslim states with every major country having 10 - 20 % muslim population to kitna acha lagaye ga europe in a few years [hilar][hilar]

Like i said Indians and a lot of other races are well represented in the US but the US still doesnt trust India and it never will. Devyani episode kiyoon bhool jate ho :biggthumpup:

App akhir mein akaylay reh jaogay sirf HUM hi hongay as usual apsay deal kernay kay liay (bigsmile)

 

[Mohan]

@expat
You bully us, insult us, talk vile things about Indians and particularly Hindus on the forum. This apparently is deep rooted in the mindset of all pakistanis. So welcome to the real world. You reap as you sow. You were talking about the proposition of me getting raped based on an assumption made from my avatar. Now see you are getting raped with all your formal clothes on you.:lol:

I don't see anything wrong in it.I am in USA and I outsource all my IT work to India.Being an Indian Origin individual, I prefer Indians over anyone. So what is the issue.? I don;t get it.

 

[chandbibi]

The US has lot of loopholes in its own system. They make lot of money by rejecting visas too. [hilar] Ab ye bhi kya batana padega tumko. Oh acha tumko "lene" ki itni adat pad gai hai ki "dena" pata nahi hai. Magar ye bhi hota hai. Do you think americans are that guileless? Obviously you can always turn around and exploit a loophole in your system to pin the blame on anyone. After all you make money right. They can claim to have found irregularities and if you don't know what crime you are supposed to have committed u take the easy way out u pay and get away. That is how they arrange settlements in the US. Tumhe kya laga, US is India where sahara shree is sitting in jail.[hilar]

Allegation kay 34 million diyay hain ?? [hilar] [hilar] ....If they had done nothing wrong then what was the reason for paying this amount ?

What "irregularities" did they correct ??.....Kiya chori kerkay samaan wapis kernay say chori khatm nahi hojati !

Kabhi "criminal" bhi apni ghalati maanta hai ?? [hilar][hilar] ...Saza hogai thi and you paid ...thats it !...It proves fraud no matter what you say !

Timid Indian Press Sucks Up to Infosys, Ignores Visa Fraud Investigation

Don Tennant | FROM UNDER THE RUG | POSTED 14 JAN, 2013

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Last week, Infosys held a lengthy press conference in India to discuss its financial results for its third quarter, which ended on Dec. 31. And once again, the Indian press demonstrated its meekness by failing to compel Infosys executives to address the dark cloud hanging over the company as it awaits the outcome of the U.S. governments visa and tax fraud investigation.
Infosys posted the archived video of the press conference on its website, and I forced myself to sit through all 57 minutes and 15 seconds of it. It was absolutely excruciating. The entire Infosys senior management team was present, and the assembled press had a golden opportunity to ask the tough questions that were screaming to be asked. Instead, they chose to lob softball, adulatory questions in an embarrassing display of sycophancy that does nothing but feed the arrogance Infosys has displayed since Oct. 11, 2010, the day Infosys employee Jay Palmer blew the whistle on the company.
It was almost as if the Infosys executives came up with the questions they wanted to be asked, and the reporters eagerly jumped at the chance to ask them. Just to give you an idea of what it was like, here are some of the actual questions that were asked:

• The mood of management is quite upbeat today. Basically, under-promising and overachieving is what Infosys has been doing so far. Despite [the global economic environment] Infosys has done relatively better this quarter. What are the factors that are working in favor of you, especially in Europe? We see you have done quite nicelyyou seem to be riding against the storm in Europe.
• Im just curious to know, you won 14 deals in the products and platforms spacecan you tell me whats the contract value for those 14 deals?
• Why do you think the stock price is going up despite your 3.6 percent [revenue growth]?
• This year, how does Infosys plan to add greater value to your customers in terms of new, disruptive technologies?

Almost incomprehensibly, the reporters made absolutely no attempt to get the Infosys executives to address the U.S. governments investigation. Nothing whatsoever was mentioned about the alleged violations or what Infosys is doing to correct the situation that prompted this intensive, multi-agency investigation. Nothing. It was pathetic.
Here are some of the questions that needed to be asked, and would have been if only the reporters could have summoned the courage and professionalism to ask them:

• Jay Palmer, the Infosys employee whose whistleblower report sparked the U.S. governments investigation of alleged immigration and tax fraud at Infosys, has been languishing on the bench for nearly two years. Why is that the case?
• Does Infosys have any intention of assigning Palmer to a project?
• You acknowledged in your IFRS Earnings Release for the quarter ending Dec. 31, 2012, that Infosys has been advised that the DHS has found errors in a significant percentage of its Forms I-9 that the DHS has reviewed, and the [U.S.] government may seek to impose fines and penalties on the company in connection with such alleged errors. To what do you attribute these errors, and what specifically is Infosys doing to correct the situation?
• You noted in the Earnings Release that in connection with the grand jury subpoena for certain documents and records related to your sponsorships for, and uses of, B1 business visas, youve been advised by the U.S. Attorneys Office that Infosys and certain of its employees are targets of the investigation. Can you identify which employees are being investigated?
• You stated in your Earnings Release, In the event that any government undertakes any actions which limit any visa program that the company utilizes, or imposes sanctions, fines or penalties on the company or its employees, this could materially and adversely affect the companys business and results of operations. What do you see as the best- and worst-case scenarios stemming from the U.S. governments investigation and your ongoing discussions with the U.S. Attorneys Office?
• In light of the U.S. governments investigation, what specific steps have you taken to ensure that Infosys is fully compliant with all U.S. immigration and tax laws?
• Given the nature of the alleged abuses, is Infosys at all concerned that the SEC will conduct an investigation of the company, independent of the investigation jointly conducted by DHS, the Department of State, and the U.S. Attorneys Office?
• In hindsight, what should Infosys have done differently that might have avoided the U.S. governments investigation of the company and certain of its employees?

So allow me to address the press in India directly. I know that many of you read my blog, and Im certain that some of you who were at that press conference will read this post. Let me ask you, and invite your responses: Why didnt you ask any of those questions? Why did you let Infosys off the hook?

 

[Mohan]

Bro they(Indians) all are united. they spend years calmly to reach the keys positions in companies. Specially they made their way to HR department. They have strong back support from indian based industry as well. There is no leg pulling in their side.


but we Pakistanis are just fighting each other and professional jealousy. Just thinking about their own interest in a corrupt way. A highly decent Indian dominated American Based company Fired three Pakistani in three years due to their fake degrees and corruption charges.(True Charges,I was eye witness) and now they specifically Ban Pakistani to be hired on Manager position.

My Request to all brother in Gulf. please be united, don't be fake. Help each other. Focus on your work rather than other's work.

Well said! and equally painful if you are Pakistani.

 

[modern.fakir]

Muslims dead place ko Super Power banay mein hi maharat rakhtay hain (bigsmile) ...Dekhaina akhir India bhi to 550 independant states thay and was known as the "land of snake charmers" [hilar][hilar] ...Usko Mughal Empire nay utha ker aik economic power banadiya tha !

Arabia was a desert region with very little acitivity BUT it was transformed into a global power in the late 600's AD ...

Aur wesay bhi Muslim History hai kay minority hotay huay bhi majority ka faida kerna aur unki country ko Super power bana dayna :biggthumpup:

Dekhain anyone can be hated but we dont hate anyone. Yeh Hate is in your mind ..whether its for Pakistan aur China ...or sri lanka or bangladesh etc

Rogue hum pasan kertay hain to app Israel kay saath bedfellows kiyoon hain ?? [hilar][hilar] un say bhera rogue to is duniya mein koi nahin hai !

Aur wesay bhi app rox Ladakh mein China say maar kha ker unko Salam kertay ho ...kuch to sherm ker lo [hilar][hilar]

Muafi kahan maangi hai ...devyani ko to "strip search" kerkay bhaij diya aur abb modi sarkay bhi besharmoan ki terha jaker salam keray ga OBAMA ko [hilar][hilar]

Izzat kiya cheez hai yeh apko kiya pata [hilar][hilar] ...apko to Africa nay kick maar ker nikal diya tha !

Actually Europe is a dead place. Isliye to Muslims waha phail rahay hain. Muslims failne se kya fayda hone wala hai is duniya ka? China ko time lagega in becoming a real super power. Reason is again population and other problems they have. China is hated in asia. Only you love China just because u generally love all rogues. [hilar] US to bahut kuch karke pachtaye hai magar Pakistan to kabhi sorry bola unhone? Hame bolte hain. Yeh difference hai aapme aur ham mein. Muslims apas me kabhi ek nahi ho sakte hain, because (bigsmile) well you just got banned by Saudi. lolz. And look at the condition of the muslim world. Its chaos.

 

[chandbibi]

The issue is that they think that the Gulf is their natural territory and they must be given jobs there. And Indian HR is ruling the roost in this region. If you see the overseas appointments pages in the indian papers then its very clear Indians are in demand there.

I don't see anything wrong in it.I am in USA and I outsource all my IT work to India.Being an Indian Origin individual, I prefer Indians over anyone. So what is the issue.? I don;t get it.

 

[modern.fakir]

Woh ghalati sabit honay per aesay arguments her chore dayta hai ...yeh hogaya tha ...yeh kerna tha ...woh hua tha ....Hindu girls ko tantric kay pass lajao ...etc etc etc [hilar][hilar]

The US has lot of loopholes in its own system. They make lot of money by rejecting visas too. [hilar] Ab ye bhi kya batana padega tumko. Oh acha tumko "lene" ki itni adat pad gai hai ki "dena" pata nahi hai. Magar ye bhi hota hai. Do you think americans are that guileless? Obviously you can always turn around and exploit a loophole in your system to pin the blame on anyone. After all you make money right. They can claim to have found irregularities and if you don't know what crime you are supposed to have committed u take the easy way out u pay and get away. That is how they arrange settlements in the US. Tumhe kya laga, US is India where sahara shree is sitting in jail.[hilar]

 

[chandbibi]

Ek baar fluke se ho gaya to baar baar nahi hota. Remove the oil from there and its banjar desert. Wapas camel par ghumenge woh log. Aur aaj bhi unki economy dusro ke jor se chal rahi hain. So this is a soap bubble. Kab burst ho jayega kise pata. Hamara hindustan to hamesha se sone ki chidiya tha hai aur rahega. Usse aise chote mote bubbles se compare mat karo. Ek bhi arab country ka naam hamare naam ke saath nahi liya jata. We are among top nations of the world. Pata nahi tum is khajur ki bagh se kab bahar nikloge. Religion apni jagah hai magar other than that those people dont like you or consider u as muslims worthy of them. Ab isse zyda racism kya ho sakta hai. Phir hi tum unki badhai karna chahte ho to karo. Personally I would take it as an insult. Hame izzat kya hai yeh pata hai islie to hamne WTO deal ko VETO kar diya. We can do that. That is our power today.
Tum khwab dekhte raho, ham kar guzar jayenge. Watch us.

Muslims dead place ko Super Power banay mein hi maharat rakhtay hain (bigsmile) ...Dekhaina akhir India bhi to 550 independant states thay and was known as the "land of snake charmers" [hilar][hilar] ...Usko Mughal Empire nay utha ker aik economic power banadiya tha !

Arabia was a desert region with very little acitivity BUT it was transformed into a global power in the late 600's AD ...

Aur wesay bhi Muslim History hai kay minority hotay huay bhi majority ka faida kerna aur unki country ko Super power bana dayna :biggthumpup:

Dekhain anyone can be hated but we dont hate anyone. Yeh Hate is in your mind ..whether its for Pakistan aur China ...or sri lanka or bangladesh etc

Rogue hum pasan kertay hain to app Israel kay saath bedfellows kiyoon hain ?? [hilar][hilar] un say bhera rogue to is duniya mein koi nahin hai !

Aur wesay bhi app rox Ladakh mein China say maar kha ker unko Salam kertay ho ...kuch to sherm ker lo [hilar][hilar]

Muafi kahan maangi hai ...devyani ko to "strip search" kerkay bhaij diya aur abb modi sarkay bhi besharmoan ki terha jaker salam keray ga OBAMA ko [hilar][hilar]

Izzat kiya cheez hai yeh apko kiya pata [hilar][hilar] ...apko to Africa nay kick maar ker nikal diya tha !

 

[modern.fakir]

Natural territory hi hai ...Its land of the muslims so naturally its ours ...and Indians are mostly only prevalent in dubai, bahrain and qatar ..in Saudi, Yemen, oman and kuwait its more Pakistanis & Bengalis that dominate ...because of better arabic language and cultural affinity ...:biggthumpup:

The issue is that they think that the Gulf is their natural territory and they must be given jobs there. And Indian HR is ruling the roost in this region. If you see the overseas appointments pages in the indian papers then its very clear Indians are in demand there.

 

[chandbibi]

Jab chori sabit hee nahi hui to chor kaisa. Kuch to tha jo prove na ho saka. Warna americans to ekdum ready rehte hai for sending people to jail. Tantrik ke pass uneducated log jate hain. The law allows inter faith marriages. But in smaller places people are still stuck in medieval times. Anyway ye bahut choti si baat hai, and inconsequential to waste so much time on.

Woh ghalati sabit honay per aesay arguments her chore dayta hai ...yeh hogaya tha ...yeh kerna tha ...woh hua tha ....Hindu girls ko tantric kay pass lajao ...etc etc etc [hilar][hilar]

 

[modern.fakir]

Baar baar fluke nahi hotay ....aur wesay bhi jonhon nay history mein KUCH na kiya ho ...Un ko kiya pata kay flook kiya hota aur real cheese kiya hoti hai [hilar][hilar]

Camel per ghoomein ya gaye per, filhaal to they have more money than India combined and a living standard that India can only envy. Wesay hum Khulay dil kay log hain. Chahay humein koi pasand keray ya na karay hum phir bhi uskay lliay "Acha" hi kertay hain :biggthumpup:

You see its in our gene's. India mein bhi kiya tha ....jub yeh aryans migrate ker kay aye to pehlay to modi sarkaar ki terha butchery ki itna khoon bhaya jis ki koi had nahi ...aur Phir Mughals nay hindustan ko aik sahi mulk banaya (bigsmile)

Aur ab to khair woh Rape capital ban chuka hai, poverty increasing everyday and reaching worse than african levels, 24 independance movements, inflation going out the roof, Army getting slapped by the chinese, kashmiris ready to break away.

WTO deal say apnay europe aur america ko bhi naraz kerdiya hai .....wohi na ...akhir kaar app phir say akaylay reh jaogay apni is nafrat ki waja say ...you have never become a global player aur jesay hi america is done with you ...woh apko apki aukaat bhi dikha daingay [hilar][hilar]

Ek baar fluke se ho gaya to baar baar nahi hota. Remove the oil from there and its banjar desert. Wapas camel par ghumenge woh log. Aur aaj bhi unki economy dusro ke jor se chal rahi hain. So this is a soap bubble. Kab burst ho jayega kise pata. Hamara hindustan to hamesha se sone ki chidiya tha hai aur rahega. Usse aise chote mote bubbles se compare mat karo. Ek bhi arab country ka naam hamare naam ke saath nahi liya jata. We are among top nations of the world. Pata nahi tum is khajur ki bagh se kab bahar nikloge. Religion apni jagah hai magar other than that those people dont like you or consider u as muslims worthy of them. Ab isse zyda racism kya ho sakta hai. Phir hi tum unki badhai karna chahte ho to karo. Personally I would take it as an insult. Hame izzat kya hai yeh pata hai islie to hamne WTO deal ko VETO kar diya. We can do that. That is our power today.
Tum khwab dekhte raho, ham kar guzar jayenge. Watch us.

 

[Happyheart]

One way to give this issue attention is to contact Pakistan tv stations.
And hope and pray some of them will pay attention about this issue.
Fax them, email them, phone them, twitter them, Facebook them.............only then they will pay attention.

So u know what u have to do..............

 

[Mohan]

The issue is that they think that the Gulf is their natural territory and they must be given jobs there. And Indian HR is ruling the roost in this region. If you see the overseas appointments pages in the indian papers then its very clear Indians are in demand there.

Indian are everywhere because they are hardworking and honest :)