Imran Khan ka jahan aur Desi Liberals ka jahan aur

mohibbewatan

Senator (1k+ posts)
I don't believe liberals are all bad people or agents and don't care about their religious views as it is personal but i have been shocked at their BLIND and BLANKET support of Nawaz Sharif. They may claim that they just support democracy and not Nawaz Sharif but if Nawaz Sharif is symbol of our democracy then we should all be ASHAMED.

Questions to all these custodians of democracy (since your entire focus is making Nawaz Sharif champion of democracy):

Has Nawaz Sharif paid for his pathetic attacks on democracy?
Has Nawaz Sharif changed after spending years in exile?
Did Nawaz Sharif pay the price for accepting money from ISI (Asghar Khan case)?
Did Nawaz Sharif pay the price for rigging the election in 2013 accepting all independents he is cursing today?
If sending corrupt Prime Minister home is such a crime then why Nawaz take pride in sending Gilani home?????

List of his crimes against democracy goes on......too many to list..............

As for Imran Khan, his priorities are TOTALLY different: (And no one said he is entirely an angel)
His focus is better Pakistan through:
- Reduced corruption
- Institutional reforms
- Reduction in poverty
- Local bodies empowerment, ending development funds for so called electables to reduce their hold)
- Green Pakistan
- Promoting tourism & building soft image of Pakistan

He needs power to do all that and has to make unfortunate compromises.

He is fighting with status quo
He is fighting with media houses
He is fighting with old system that took 70 years to build

He will fight with establishment when the time comes and can NEVER do that without getting to power. He could benefit from Nawaz Sharif's bad luck that stuck due to Panama leaks but establishment DID NOT create Panama leaks, they could have ensured Nawaz does not escape this time but corruption was indeed done and it was exposed by INTERNATIONAL organisation.

Army should do it's own job and should leave civilians to run Pakistan but people are stupid to think compromised leaders like Nawaz and Zardari will challenge so called establishment.
 

Dream Seller

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Some people just don’t want to learn...that’s the conclusion I’ve drawn after listening, hearing and meeting patwaris

I don't believe liberals are all bad people or agents and don't care about their religious views as it is personal but i have been shocked at their BLIND and BLANKET support of Nawaz Sharif. They may claim that they just support democracy and not Nawaz Sharif but if Nawaz Sharif is symbol of our democracy then we should all be ASHAMED.

Questions to all these custodians of democracy (since your entire focus is making Nawaz Sharif champion of democracy):

Has Nawaz Sharif paid for his pathetic attacks on democracy?
Has Nawaz Sharif changed after spending years in exile?
Did Nawaz Sharif pay the price for accepting money from ISI (Asghar Khan case)?
Did Nawaz Sharif pay the price for rigging the election in 2013 accepting all independents he is cursing today?
If sending corrupt Prime Minister home is such a crime then why Nawaz take pride in sending Gilani home?????

List of his crimes against democracy goes on......too many to list..............

As for Imran Khan, his priorities are TOTALLY different: (And no one said he is entirely an angel)
His focus is better Pakistan through:
- Reduced corruption
- Institutional reforms
- Reduction in poverty
- Local bodies empowerment, ending development funds for so called electables to reduce their hold)
- Green Pakistan
- Promoting tourism & building soft image of Pakistan

He needs power to do all that and has to make unfortunate compromises.

He is fighting with status quo
He is fighting with media houses
He is fighting with old system that took 70 years to build

He will fight with establishment when the time comes and can NEVER do that without getting to power. He could benefit from Nawaz Sharif's bad luck that stuck due to Panama leaks but establishment DID NOT create Panama leaks, they could have ensured Nawaz does not escape this time but corruption was indeed done and it was exposed by INTERNATIONAL organisation.

Army should do it's own job and should leave civilians to run Pakistan but people are stupid to think compromised leaders like Nawaz and Zardari will challenge so called establishment.
 

pinionated

Minister (2k+ posts)
Most liberals support Imran K. This can be seen by a lot of artists, actors, social workers supporting him. I don’t know how u r drawing your conclusions.
 

ImranD

Councller (250+ posts)
These so called liberals are partners in crime. It’s naive to think that they’re supporting NS because of democracy, they’re rather beneficiaries of this corruption directly or indirectly. These mafias have already corrupted every segment of society since long.
 

mohibbewatan

Senator (1k+ posts)
Most liberals support Imran K. This can be seen by a lot of artists, actors, social workers supporting him. I don’t know how u r drawing your conclusions.

There is no doubt that most educated people support PTI and heavy majority of artists usually support PTI.

My post is about certain section of liberals mostly active on social media who believe Nawaz and Maryam are symbol of struggle and democracy and Imran khan is being presented everything on plate.

These people are short sighted and shallow, Imran Khan was accused of being created by establishment and what happened since then??

0 seat in 1997
1 seat in 2002
Boycott in 2008 (due to all parties agreement)
30 seats in 2013

- 22 years struggle behind him
- Struggles on roads for days and months
- NEVER got any personal benefits for himself an family
- Lost his biggest asset (sons, married life and family) because he preferred to stay in country for his people

This is why i said "Imran Khan ka jahan aur".

In his world, it's all about Pakistan, it's people, humanity etc and he has shown throughout his life that he would do anything to achieve his mission. Cricket, Cancer hospital, University and politics is all about serving the nation with pure heart, determination, effort.

Ye establishment, Sharif, status quo is system ka hissa hain aur har aik ko defeat karna hai jo is mission k aagay aatay hain.

in the end, insaan sirf koshish kar sakta hai, kamyaabi Allah deta hai.
 

mohibbewatan

Senator (1k+ posts)
Keep dreaming.never heard him utter a single word about biggest problem of Pakistan i.e terrorism.
Any comments

Terrorism is massive issue and so is extremism. These are linked to education, weak institutions, poverty etc and no one can end terrorism/extremism by just speaking against it. You have to take actions like:

Madrassah reforms
Monitoring activities of Imams and religious leaders

And this is what PTI is doing already but had to face propaganda that we are empowering terrorists which was ridiculous.
 

Faheem Imtiaz

MPA (400+ posts)
Most of these opinions which you are terming as Liberals are not Liberal at all but are enslaved by monetary benefits. My Cousine works in one of top news channel in Pakistan and he told me first hand story of one "Very Credible" journalist demanding money off camera from politicians to propagate their narrative! You can beat most things but you can not convince people against their monetary interests!
 

mohibbewatan

Senator (1k+ posts)
I do not think liberals are supporting nawqz sharif. This is not true.

Most of these opinions which you are terming as Liberals are not Liberal at all but are enslaved by monetary benefits. My Cousine works in one of top news channel in Pakistan and he told me first hand story of one "Very Credible" journalist demanding money off camera from politicians to propagate their narrative! You can beat most things but you can not convince people against their monetary interests!

As i explained above, there is certain liberal community that supports Nawaz Sharif.

People like Marvi Sirmed, Imtiaz Alam, Raza Rumi, Musharraf Zaidi, Mubashir Zaidi etc are all providing non stop support to Nawaz Sharif.

Ironically ALL these supported PPP previously and accused Nawaz Sharif of being corruption, election rigger, incompetent, right wing, anti democratic etc etc but now all of a sudden he has become CHAMPION OF DEMOCRACY!.
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
جو بندہ جو فوج کیخلاف ہوگا یہ لنڈے کے دانشور اور لنڈے کے لبرل اسکے خلاف ہونگے​
 

Liberal 000

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
جو بندہ جو فوج کیخلاف ہوگا یہ لنڈے کے دانشور اور لنڈے کے لبرل اسکے خلاف ہونگے​

App shaid parhy likhy ho.... Per afsoos app ki her post patwarion jesi street language mein hi hoti hai.... Chalo achi baat hai PTI walo ky pas bhi kuch patwari hony chahiyn !
 

Hira Maroof

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
سوکالڈ لبرلز اس ملک کو کچھ نہ دے سکے۔
کہنے کو تو ایم کیو ایم خبیث بھی لبرل بنتی ہے مگر قتل وغارت گری۔
بھتہ خوری۔ ہڑتالیں۔ عورتوں کا ریپ اور نازیہ حسن جیسی پیاری
آرٹسٹ کے ریپ سے لے کے ١٢ مئی ٢٠٠٧ اور بلدیہ فیکٹری کے
معصوم دیہاڑی دار مزدوروں تک ایم کیوایم کے گنا ہوں کی داستان
سرخ ہے۔
 

Uns Sheikh

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
سوکالڈ لبرلز اس ملک کو کچھ نہ دے سکے۔
کہنے کو تو ایم کیو ایم خبیث بھی لبرل بنتی ہے مگر قتل وغارت گری۔
بھتہ خوری۔ ہڑتالیں۔ عورتوں کا ریپ اور نازیہ حسن جیسی پیاری
آرٹسٹ کے ریپ سے لے کے ١٢ مئی ٢٠٠٧ اور بلدیہ فیکٹری کے
معصوم دیہاڑی دار مزدوروں تک ایم کیوایم کے گنا ہوں کی داستان
سرخ ہے۔
تمہارا کام ہر تھریڈ پہ جاکے بے چارے الطاف بھائی کو بدنام کرنا ہے۔
ورنہ نازیہ حسن جیسی تھی سب کے سامنے تھی۔
اس کا اسکینڈل چودھری نثار اور جہانگیر خان کے ساتھ بھی مشہور ہوا
جنہوں نے پوری بوتل پی ڈالی ان کا ذکر ہی نہیں۔لیکن الطاف بھائی بے چارے چند چسکیاں لیتے پکڑے گئے۔​
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
لگتا ہے آپ نے گلیوں کی زبان کبھی سُنی نہیں ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ ؟ اور اپنے آپکو لبرل کہو گے تو ظاہر ہے پھر تو قرآن کے آیات بھی تم لوگوں کو بُرے لگے گے۔
App shaid parhy likhy ho.... Per afsoos app ki her post patwarion jesi street language mein hi hoti hai.... Chalo achi baat hai PTI walo ky pas bhi kuch patwari hony chahiyn !
 

salary

Voter (50+ posts)
not a single person is democracy in our country it just a individul how is responsible to destroy the whole system
 

mohibbewatan

Senator (1k+ posts)
App shaid parhy likhy ho.... Per afsoos app ki her post patwarion jesi street language mein hi hoti hai.... Chalo achi baat hai PTI walo ky pas bhi kuch patwari hony chahiyn !

Yaar achi language har kisi ko use karani chahyie but i don't know log kyun bhool jatay hain k log jab apni aulaad ko bhi kuch bura karta dekhay tou buri language se le k un ko maar peet tak karna parta hai.

Hamari frustration ye hai k jis mulk ko hum aagay le jana chahtay hain usay ignorants log apni jahalat ki wajah se aur peechay le jatay hain. ye language un ko jhinjhornay k liye hoti hai k shaid aqal aa jaaye.
 

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