famamdani

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: If Raymond Davis freed by Govt. then Damadam Mast Qalander on pakistani streets, move to US consulates.

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جيسا کہ ميں نے پہلے بھی واضح کيا تھا کہ جنوری 27 کو پيش آنے والے واقعات کے تسلسل کا محرک امريکی سفارت کار نہيں تھا۔ اس میں کوئ شک نہيں کہ اس روز انسانی زندگيوں کا ضياع ہوا۔ ہم اس پر افسوس کا اظہار بھی کرتے ہيں اور ان خاندانوں سے ہمدردی رکھتے ہیں جن کے عزيز ان سے جدا ہو گۓ۔ ليکن بنيادی حقيقت يہی ہے کہ دو مسلح افراد جو اس سے قبل وارداتوں ميں ملوث رہ چکے تھے، انھوں نے امريکی سفارت کار پر حملہ کيا۔ اس اقدام کے بعد جو کچھ بھی ہوا وہ کوئ طے شدہ منصوبہ ہرگز نہيں تھا بلکہ اپنی جان کے دفاع ميں کيا جانے والا اقدام تھا۔ جنوری 27 کو پيش آنے والے واقعات کی حتمی ذمہ داری انھی افراد پر عائد ہوتی ہے جنھوں نے امریکی سفارت کار پر انھيں نقصان پہنچانے کی نيت سے حملہ کيا۔


اگر امريکی حکومت اس واقعے ميں ملوث اپنے سفارت کار کے ليے سفارتی استثنی کی درخواست کر رہی ہے تو اس کا يہ مطلب ہرگز نہيں ہے کہ ہم پاکستانی قوانين کو خاطر ميں نہيں لا رہے۔ ہم صرف اس حقيقت پر اصرار کر رہے ہيں کہ يہ معاملہ پاکستان ميں قانون نافذ کرنے والے اداروں کے دائرہ اختيار ميں نہيں آتا۔ اسی بات کا اظہار صدر اوبامہ نے بھی اپنے بيان ميں کيا تھا۔


"يقينی طور پر ہميں انسانی جانوں کے ضياع پر تشويش ہے۔ ہم اس بارے ميں سردمہری کا مظاہرہ نہيں کر رہے ہيں۔ ليکن يہاں ايک بڑا اصول ہمارے سامنے ہے۔ ہمارا موقف بالکل واضح ہے کہ دنيا کا ہر وہ ملک جو سفارتی تعلقات کے حوالے سے ويانا کنوينشن کا حصہ ہے وہاں ماضی ميں بھی ان اصولوں کی پاسداری کی گئ ہے اور مستتقبل ميں بھی ايسا ہی ہونا چاہيے۔ اور وہ اصول يہ ہے کہ جب ہمارے سفارت کار دوسرے ممالک ميں ہوں تو ان ممالک ميں ان پر قانونی چارہ جوئ نہيں ہو سکتی۔"



فواد – ڈيجيٹل آؤٹ ريچ ٹيم – يو ايس اسٹيٹ ڈيپارٹمينٹ







time of mullah zaeef................................ Where is big principle ........................................he was a embessdor of afghanistan...................................not a consultant........................to lahore consulate........................................I SAY ONLY ONE THING......................YA SHAIKH APNI APNI DEKH............
 

famamdani

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: If Raymond Davis freed by Govt. then Damadam Mast Qalander on pakistani streets, move to US consulates.

ڈاکٹرعافیہ صدیقی کا مقدمہ صاف اور شفاف تھا۔ ان کو فروری 3، 2010 کو ایک بالاتفاق جیوری نے افغانستان میں امریکی افسران اور ملازمين کے قتل کی کوشش کے الزام میں گنہگار قرار دیا تھا۔ کل ایک خودمختار وفاقی جج نے نیویورک کے جنوبی ضلعے میں ڈاکٹرعافیہ صدیقی کو 86 سالہ قید کی سزا سنا ئی جوکہ امریکہ کے قانونی انتظامیہ کے طے شدہ رہنما اصولوں کے مطابق تھی۔

امریکی قانونی نظام کے تحت ڈاکٹر صدیقی کو اس وقت تک مجرم نہیں قرار دیا گیا تھا جب تک ان پر جرم ثابت نہیں ہو سکا۔ ان کو قانون کے مطابق سارے حقوق مہیا کئے گئے تھے۔

ڈاکٹر صدیقی کوقابل وکیل مہیا تھے جنھوں نے ان کو مقدمے سے پہلے اور مقدمے کے دوران اچھی طرح کی وقالت پیش کی، اور جب سے ان کا مقدمہ کھلا یہ بلکل شفاف تھا اور ان کو ہر ممکن موقع فراہم کیا گیا تھا کہ وہ اپنا دفاع کر سکیں۔

وییانا کنونشن کے تحت پاکستان کے سفارت خانے کے افسران کو ڈاکٹر صدیقی کے وکیلوں سے ملنے کی کھلی اجازت تھی۔ انکو بہترین اوربھر پور طبی سہولتیں، قابل ماہرڈاکٹر سے مہیا کی گئی تھیں۔

اس الزام کے برعکس کہ ڈاکٹر صدیقی بگرام یا کسی اور امریکی قید خانے میں قید رہی ہیں وہ 2008 کے گولی چلنے کے واقعے سے پہلے کبھی ہماری قید میں نہیں تھیں۔

جبکہ ہمیں اس بات کا کو ئی علم نہیں کہ وہ اس عرصے کہاں رہی ہیں، اس بارے میں کچھ معتبرخبریں مہیا ہوئی ہیں جو کہ سازشی نظریات سے زیادہ مشہور ہیں:​


http://www.spiegel.de/international/...593195,00.html


عبدالقدوس

NOW OUR COURT WANT ALSO DO JUSTICE WITH DEVIS THIS NAME IS FRAUD ACCORDING YOUR FORIGN DEPARTMENT::::::::::IS ON RECORD IF YOU AGAINST OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.................?????
 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
ریمنڈ گرفتار، ڈرون حملے بند

پاکستان کے قبائلی علاقوں میں امریکی جاسوس ڈرون طیاروں کے حملے چوبیس روز سے نہیں ہو رہے۔

عوامی سطح پر یہ سوال اٹھایا جا رہا ہے کہ اس کی کیا وجہ ہو سکتی ہے، موسمی حالات، حفیہ معلومات کی کمی، عوامی رائے کا احترام یا پھر امریکی ڈرون حملوں کی خاموشی کا تعلق لاہور میں گرفتار امریکی سفارتخانے کے اہلکار ریمنڈ ڈیوس کی گرفتاری سے ہے؟

اب ذکر کرتے ہیں لاہور کے واقعہ کا جب امریکی سفارتخانے کے اہلکار ریمنڈ ڈیوس کو ستائیس جنوری کو دو افراد کو فائرنگ سے ہلاک کرنے کے الزام میں گرفتار کر لیا گیا جس کے بعد سے امریکہ پاکستان پر مسلسل یہ دباؤ ڈال رہا ہے کہ ریمنڈ ڈیوس کو سفارتی استثنی حاصل ہے اس لیے انھیں امریکہ کے حوالے کر دیا جائے۔

اس بارے میں کہ آیا ڈرون حملوں کی خاموشی اور ریمنڈ ڈیوس کی گرفتاری کا کیا کوئی تعلق بنتا ہے پاکستان میں عسکری اور سیاسی مبصرین کی رائے مختلف ہے۔

بریگیڈیئر ریٹائرڈ سعد کا کہنا ہے کہ ریمنڈ ڈیوس چونکہ پشاور میں تعینات رہے اور خفیہ معلومات فراہم کرنے کے حوالے سے کام کرتے ہوں گے اس لیے کچھ تعلق بنتا نظر آتا ہے تاہم انھوں نے ساتھ یہ بھی کہا ہے کہ اس بارے میں معلومات تفتیش کے بعد ہی حاصل ہو سکتی ہیں۔
 

Bilal_Mushi

Minister (2k+ posts)
Lahore: Raymond Davis to appear in court via video conference

Lahore: Raymond Davis to appear in court via video conference

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Lahore: Raymond Davis to appear in court via video conference
Raymond Davis will appear in court via video conference today; a video screen, four telephones and an audio system have been installed in the courtroom, Dunya News reported.

This video conference being held in Lahore will remain completely confidential. The judge and attorney present in the courtroom will also be able to talk to Raymond via video conference. There are two cases registered against Raymond Davis, one is a double murder and second is carrying illegal weapon. Today Raymond will be trialed for the case for carrying illegal weapon.

http://www.dunyanews.tv/index.php?key=Q2F0SUQ9MiNOaWQ9MjA0MzM=
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Lahore: Raymond Davis to appear in court via video conference

I wonder why video conf why not in person. is the qatil and terrorist really that izzat wala?
 

Bilal_Mushi

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Lahore: Raymond Davis to appear in court via video conference

Tehmina Janjua new FO spokesperson

Updated at: 2333 PST, Wednesday, February 16, 2011
ISLAMABAD: Foreign Office Spokesman Abdul Basit has been replaced with Tehmina Janjua, sources said.

According to the sources, Tehmina Janjua is a senior and experienced diplomat.

http://www.geo.tv/2-16-2011/78392.htm
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Bilal_Mushi

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Lahore: Raymond Davis to appear in court via video conference

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Gilani hints at family pardon for US official
Updated on: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 7:45:48 PM
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ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani suggested on Wednesday that relatives of two Pakistani men shot dead by a US official might pardon the American, but also said it was for a court to decide the man's fate.

The comments came as US Senator John Kerry visited the country to hold talks with Pakistani leaders aimed at resolving a bitter diplomatic row over Raymond Davis, who shot the two men in a busy Lahore street on January 27.

Pakistan's fragile ties with the United States have been plunged into crisis by the shooting. Davis has insisted he acted in self-defence.

Speaking to a convention of religious scholars, Gilani stressed the role of the courts in deciding on whether Davis, who is in Pakistani custody, could claim diplomatic immunity.

"Davis also has a lawyer, he will present his case and then the court will decide whether he has immunity or not," the official Associated Press of Pakistan quoted Gilani as saying.

However Gilani also asked the scholars to help find a solution to the sensitive issue in accordance with Islamic law, under which a victim's family can pardon a killer in return for compensation.

"Ulema (Islamic scholars) should tell the solution. Either the heirs should give a pardon or ask about 'Qisas' (compensation) or the court should decide. We don't have any role," APP quoted him as saying.

Gilani told the religious scholars the government was caught between a public backlash and international anger. "We are facing difficult decisions. There is a political price," Gilani said.

"We are just caught between the devil and the deep sea. This needs wisdom. We will do whatever is in the interest of the country and the nation," he said.

Kerry, who arrived late Tuesday in Lahore, voiced deep regret over the killings. Pakistan plays a key role in the United States' military operations in neighbouring Afghanistan.

In a meeting with Kerry, Gilani said that the Davis case should not affect relations between the two countries or their cooperation in fighting terrorism.

Gilani told Kerry that his expressions of regret over the case and the possibility of securing a religious pardon for Davis "should be considered to cool down the rising temperatures in the bilateral relations".

"It was imperative that the Davis issue must not be allowed to make bilateral relations hostage and have impact on the partnership in the on-going struggle against terrorism," a statement from Gilani's office quoted him as saying.

Gilani urged the United States to take into account the "ground reality that the principal stakeholders in Mr Davis case were the family members of those killed and the people of Pakistan."

Kerry "agreed with the prime minister that positive messaging would help to develop understanding between the two countries and discourage those elements who desire to exploit the situation to the disadvantage of strategic relationship build to fight extremism and terrorism."

Meanwhile, former foreign minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi, who was still in his post at the time of the shootings, said on Wednesday that in his view Davis did not have full diplomatic immunity. AGENCIES

http://www.samaa.tv/newsdetail.aspx?ID=28627
 

chiefsaab

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: ریمنڈ گرفتار، ڈرون حملے بند

lagta hai Raymond Davis he drone say hamlay karta thaa, jab say yeh griftaar huwa hai hamlay band hain
 

faqira786

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Lahore: Raymond Davis to appear in court via video conference

Zardari is in trouble again. How he will take out this crisis

history told us that he is smart guy. he always come out SAFE from crisis, Let see what happened in this case​
 

faqira786

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: ریمنڈ گرفتار، ڈرون حملے بند

Drone attack was stop after this news "Valentine preparation in Pesharwar" where undercover gilrs/woman buying valentine gifts for their love one
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Detained US official in telephone contact with terrorist groups

http://www.pakistankakhudahafiz.com...-telephone-contact-with-islamic-terror-group/

By Rob Crilly, Islamabad 4:54PM GMT 10 Feb 2011
A US official, detained in Pakistan after shooting dead two men, had made contact with Taliban-linked extremists in the countrys lawless, tribal region, according to details of phone records leaked by the police.



Sources close to the investigation said Raymond Davis, 36, had made a series of telephone calls to South Waziristan, a tribal area along the border with Afghanistan synonymous with militant activity.
The mystery surrounding Davis has deepened since he was arrested in Lahore two weeks ago. He has told police officers he shot dead two men in self defence.
The US insists he is a diplomat based at the embassy in Islamabad and should be granted immunity.
However, security sources have leaked a series of details suggesting that he may have had a clandestine role.
His phone records clearly show he was in contact with Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, for what reason we can only speculate, said a police officer, referring to a terrorist group with close links to the Pakistani Taliban.
Hamid Gul, a former head of Pakistans spy agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence directorate, said the phone calls suggested he was a secret agent.
This is a classic intelligence technique to get inside the head of the enemy, he said.
Davis, who is due to appear in court on Friday, is a former special forces soldier who left the US army in 2003 after 10 years of service, according to Pentagon records.
Mobile phone footage obtained by the Dunya TV channel shows him pleading for the return of his passport shortly after his arrest.
I need to tell the embassy where I am at, he said, during a confused interrogation as police officers interrupt and laugh in the background.
He went on to tell them that he was working at the US consulate in Lahore I just work as a consultant there, with the [Regional Affairs Office], he said.
His arrest is deeply embarrassing to the governments of both Pakistan and the US, which has suspended some high-level talks in order to increase pressure on Islamabad.
Source: The Telegraph
 

Bilal_Mushi

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Lahore: Raymond Davis to appear in court via video conference

Center pressurized Punjab to award immunity to Davis: Shahbaz

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Center pressurized Punjab to award immunity to Davis: Shahbaz
Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif has that the Punjab government was pressurized on the issue of Raymond Davis.


Addressing to a press conference in Lahore Shahbaz revealed that Interior Minister Rehman Malik had phoned him on January 29 and told him that the federal government intended to award diplomatic immunity to Davis. He said that it was three weeks since and the federal government still indecisive on the matter.

However, the Punjab government made its stance clear that the court would decide the matter, he added. The chief minister said that moving with weapons and shooting people cannot be diplomacy.
http://www.dunyanews.tv/index.php?key=Q2F0SUQ9MiNOaWQ9MjA0NTA=
 

struggle

New Member
Re: ریمنڈ گرفتار، ڈرون حملے بند

dfifinitly these type of Americans are working there and our govt knows every thing but havn't courage to stop this.
Khua ne aaj tak os qoum ki naheen badli.................. so BARDASHAT karo.
 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Re: Detained US official in telephone contact with terrorist groups

This is the reason, for which Kerry and Obama r worried about .

Not only two killing....killings of thousands by terrorist... And Rahman Malik must have links with him too.
 

ourpakistan

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: If Raymond Davis freed by Govt. then Damadam Mast Qalander on pakistani streets, move to US consulates.

brother viana convention protect all of the crimes of all of nature
please think neutrally
and USA money to pak more important for poor pakistanies then one men
thankyou


Baz ah jawoo, why Altaf ko aor hee badnam kartay hoo with his pic in your profile and making the statement above? What do you mean by all crimes of all nature? Also, if that is true, can a Pakistani diplomate in USA go out and start killing people? I say no, diplomate can not go out and kill people. Please think as Pakistani and as human, do not think money in your brain, you sound like one of the mushkee, follower of Mush. What you are telling us that USA money to Mush and his some followers is important then Pakistani people. Why is you people, sell humans like cakes? We do not need any aid and we do not need to provide such services either, and we do not need to have our brothers and sisters killed for $$. Haram ka khana stop karo and halal ka kamao and khao, and poor Pakistani people do not get any aid or help, all of it go to Mush and alike people. Our country has enough food to feed every Pakistani, and that day is not far when Pakistani people send aid to other countries around the world. But when we send aid, we will never ask the other country to have their people killed by us. NO and Never.
 
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ourpakistan

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: If Raymond Davis freed by Govt. then Damadam Mast Qalander on pakistani streets, move to US consulates.

Satan threatens you with poverty and orders you to commit what is indecent. But Allah promises you His forgiveness and His bounty. Allah is Magnificent and All-Knowing.

Sura: 2, Ayat:268.
 
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Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Detained US official in telephone contact with terrorist groups

This is the reason, for which Kerry and Obama r worried about .

Not only two killing....killings of thousands by terrorist... And Rahman Malik must have links with him too.

He is for sure a Trojan horse.
 

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