Night_Hawk

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Re: Best Deed: To offer Prayer at its appointed time

[ Sahih Muslim : Book 1 Kitab Al-I man, Number 151]
It is narrated on the authority of 'Abdullah b. Mas'ud (Radi Allah Anhu) that he observed. I asked the Messenger of Allah (sal-allahu-alleihi-wasallam) which deed was the best. He (the Holy Prophet) replied: Prayer at its appointed hour. I (again) said: Then what? He (the Holy Prophet) replied: Kindness to the parents. I (again) said: Then what? He replied: Earnest endeavour (Jihad) in the cause of Allah. And I would have not ceased asking more questions but out of regard (for his feelings).




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faqira786

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Best Deed: To offer Prayer at its appointed time

Billo should say like this, I read this hadith one year ago and Allhumduliah I have been praying namaz 5 time with its appointed times, Brother its very simple you can do it to? The message will be very touch and people will sure ACT on it.

why people are not praying namaz Today? Madjids are empty?

Billo should set an example for us?
 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Re: Best Deed: To offer Prayer at its appointed time

Billo should say like this, I read this hadith one year ago and Allhumduliah I have been praying namaz 5 time with its appointed times, Brother its very simple you can do it to? The message will be very touch and people will sure ACT on it.

why people are not praying namaz Today? Madjids are empty?

Billo should set an example for us?
Faqeeria tell us any saying of Mirza or Altaf Bhai . for Sajda. That will be good.
 

mindsoma

Citizen
Help me understand this Hadith mubarak

Volume 4, Book 54, Number 537:
Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet ( PBUH) said "If a house fly falls in the drink of anyone of you, he should dip it (in the drink), for one of its wings has a disease and the other has the cure for the disease."

Was The Prophet (PBUH) referring to the common house fly or some other insect?

Would you feel comfortable dipping a fly and drinking?

Please I need your comments because it is bothering me.

MK
 

swisspak

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Re: Help me understand this Hadith mubarak

Volume 4, Book 54, Number 537:
Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet ( PBUH) said "If a house fly falls in the drink of anyone of you, he should dip it (in the drink), for one of its wings has a disease and the other has the cure for the disease."

Was The Prophet (PBUH) referring to the common house fly or some other insect?

Would you feel comfortable dipping a fly and drinking?

Please I need your comments because it is bothering me.

MK

'' In Australia, a team from the Department of Biological Sciences, Macquarie University, worked on a research to prove that flies have remarkable antimicrobial defenses. The team's leader, Dr. Joanne Clarke proved this discovery through a number of experiments.

"Our research is a small part of a global research effort for new antibiotics, but we are looking where we believe no-one has looked before,” said Dr. Clarke, who presented the team’s findings at the Australian Society for Microbiological Conference in Melbourne.

She added, "We are now trying to identify the specific antibacterial compounds english will be chemically synthesized from the surface of the flies."

Another researcher from Tokyo University, Dr. Juan Alvarez Bravo confirms that in the near spam "people will be astonished to find that flies are being used as antibiotics in the hospitals."

He also assures that scientists are working on the flies to get a number of effective remedies for different diseases.

Working on this theory, scientists spam that spam the remedy from flies is strange but acceptable in science. Other researchers from the United States are trying to find anti-pathogenetic ways from the flies. They also note that having the cure from the flies will be something reasonably acceptable by people the coming few years.

Researchers from Auburn University discovered a kind of protein in the saliva of the fly with ability to spam recover wounds and cracked skin. Likewise, researchers from Stanford University discovered a fly substance with ability to strengthen the immunity system in human beings.

According to scientists, Deutsch posten bitte is a big similarity between the heart of a fly and that of a human being, prompting them to use flies to produce a medicament for the human heart diseases.

Again, many scientists agree that flies carry lots of diseases but never get infected because of the antimicrobial defenses spam in one of their wings. ''

''A fly puts its saliva into food as soon as it touches it. The fly makes some movements by its limbs from its head to its mouth to put the bacteria. Through these movements, it transfers the microbes and germs to food.

Researches and scientists proved that in the flies' stomach Deutsch posten bitte are some parasites in the form of circular cells. These cells contain of a specific enzyme. In no time, those cells spread out to the surface of the fly through the joints of its stomach. Due to an inner pressure of each cell (caused for example by drowning the fly), it explodes and results its contents in a form of a liquid spray of this enzyme english has strong properties and abilities to dissolve all microbes. By drowning the fly, the inner pressure of the cell is occurred, so the enzyme will come out and kill all the bacteria caused by the fly ''
 

mindsoma

Citizen
Re: Help me understand this Hadith mubarak

Thanks brother/sister for the quick reply.
Can you provide me the publication referrals (journal name and references). I work in a hospital in US and I would like to share the knowledge . But I will have to provide the references otherwise I will be ridiculed.

Would it be safe to dip a fly and drink water to obtain the antibiotic effect? Have you or any one you know has benefited from this practice?

Thanks for you input,

MK
 
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swisspak

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Re: Help me understand this Hadith mubarak

Thanks brother/sister for the quick reply.
Can you provide me the publication referrals (journal name and references). I work in a hospital in US and I would like to share the knowledge . But I will have to provide the references otherwise I will be ridiculed.

Would it be safe to dip a fly and drink water to obtain the antibiotic effect? Have you or any one you know has benefited from this practice?

Thanks for you input,

MK
I hope this helps u brother.
Health & Medical News - The new buzz on antibiotics - 01/10/2002

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The new buzz on antibiotics

Tuesday, 1 October 2002

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Ugly but useful: The sheep blowfly is one of the fly species that might provide humans with new antibiotics. (Pic: BioTrack.)

The surface of flies is the last place you would expect to find antibiotics, yet that is exactly where a team of Australian researchers is concentrating their efforts.

Working on the theory that flies must have remarkable antimicrobial defences to survive rotting dung, meat and fruit, the team at the Department of Biological Sciences, Macquarie University, set out to identify those antibacterial properties manifesting at different stages of a flys development.

"Our research is a small part of a global research effort for new antibiotics, but we are looking where we believe no-one has looked before, said Ms Joanne Clarke, who presented the groups findings at the Australian Society for Microbiology Conference in Melbourne this week. The project is part of her PhD thesis.

The scientists tested four different species of fly: a house fly, a sheep blowfly, a vinegar fruit fly and the control, a Queensland fruit fly which lays its eggs in fresh fruit. These larvae do not need as much antibacterial compound because they do not come into contact with as much bacteria.

Flies go through the life stages of larvae and pupae before becoming adults. In the pupae stage, the fly is encased in a protective casing and does not feed. "We predicted they would not produce many antibiotics," said Ms Clarke.

They did not. However the larvae all showed antibacterial properties (except that of the Queensland fruit fly control).

As did all the adult fly species, including the Queensland fruit fly (which at this point requires antibacterial protection because it has contact with other flies and is mobile).

Such properties were present on the fly surface in all four species, although antibacterial properties occur in the gut as well. "You find activity in both places," said Ms Clarke.

"The reason we concentrated on the surface is because it is a simpler extraction.

The antibiotic material is extracted by drowning the flies in ethanol, then running the mixture through a filter to obtain the crude extract.

When this was placed in a solution with various bacteria including E.coli, Golden Staph, Candida (a yeast) and a common hospital pathogen, antibiotic action was observed every time.

"We are now trying to identify the specific antibacterial compounds," said Ms Clarke. Ultimately these will be chemically synthesised.

Because the compounds are not from bacteria, any genes conferring resistance to them may not be as easily transferred into pathogens. It is hoped this new form of antibiotics will have a longer effective therapeutic life.
Danny Kingsley - ABC Science Online​


http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/health/HealthRepublish_689400.htm
 

swisspak

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Re: Help me understand this Hadith mubarak

Well, it says here the process is just by drowning it in ethanol. Maybe people will ask, why didn't Rasulullah s.a.w. told us to dip the flies in ethanol?

So to answer this new arising question, we should know that in our daily diet we do consume ethanol. The presence of ethanol in food and beverages is very common. In fact, ethanol can be found in fermented food, as a consequence of fermentation processes; in formulated food as ingredient; in bakery fermented products, such as bread, as a residue also after baking; in some products as a stabiliser additive. Ethanol, as metabolism product of ripening and senescence, is always present in fresh fruit and vegetable and in their aroma.

Taken from:

"Ethanol in Food"; By CR Lerici; Dipartimento di Scienze degli Alimenti, via Marangoni 97, 33100 Udine , Italy:
http://web.uniud.it/ffe/rusco/lerici.htm


For further reading:

1. "The Fly Wings"
http://www.englishbaby.com/blog/M_honor/…

2. "Wings of a Fly: The New Buzz of Antibiotics"; By Mona Al-Raqas ( Yemen Post Staff ) Article Date: December 17, 2007:
http://www.yemenpost.net/8/Health/2.htm

3. "Ethanol"; From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol
 

mindsoma

Citizen
Re: Help me understand this Hadith mubarak

Let’s not go into Ethanol but rather concentrate on the fly.

I will still need a journal reference (peer reviewed) to talk to doctors in my hospital. Web sites do not count because anyone can publish anything. Kindly send academic references. In the US it is very easy to be misunderstood if you are proving Islamic science.

You have not answered my second question. You must have done a lot of research yourself and it appears that you are convinced of the truth, so would you drink from a fly dipped drink?

Can we take a poll on how many of us would dip a fly and drink, so as to follow the TRUTH from The Prophet (PBUH).

MK
 

swisspak

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Re: Help me understand this Hadith mubarak

Please go to your Nearest Antibiotic Lab and ask them this Question.
The antibiotic material is extracted by drowning the flies since it caries a diseases in some parts, and antibiotic properties in another part.

If you live in Australia.. Contact:
The Department of Biological Sciences, Macquarie University. Or if in USA - Department of Pharmacy Practice, Minneapolis, MN 55455, USA.

All sahih or valid hadiths were guided and inspired by Allah swt so dipping flyer insect in the glass of water or juice is true because according to the related hadith its right wing could neutralize the poison or bacteries carried by the flyer
We muslims follow this hadith so we actually do this if we want.We can also throw away the water or juice in the glass and replace with the new one because hadith is only a sunnah (voluntary to be followed). The flyer dropped on the water or juice accidently and we do not catch it..Allah hates wasting stuff.
 

babadeena

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Help me understand this Hadith mubarak

Volume 4, Book 54, Number 537:
Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet ( PBUH) said "If a house fly falls in the drink of anyone of you, he should dip it (in the drink), for one of its wings has a disease and the other has the cure for the disease."
Was The Prophet (PBUH) referring to the common house fly or some other insect?
Would you feel comfortable dipping a fly and drinking?
Please I need your comments because it is bothering me.
MK

Normally Hadith is not my speciality because I have not yet studied them, Quran is:
Your have used words ''IF"", so your asking a general survey is too much. Not everytime
and everyday in one's food fly falls. So "would you feel comfortable dipping a fly and drinking" statement
is irrelevant.
Turning towards Quran : Allah has ordered and allowed to eat "Halal and Tayyab".
 

mindsoma

Citizen
Re: Help me understand this Hadith mubarak

Why is it that I am asking for too much?

My logic is :
1: We believe in Hadith mubarak
2: We believe in it because it is true.
3: Since it is true we can follow it.
4: So Again, Would you drink from a liquid in which a fly dropped accidently, or offer the drink to a sick son or daughter who happens to have tonsillitis?.
5: Simply answer: Yes OR NO.

please answer as a Muslim (honestly)

thanks
MK
 
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Hazik

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Help me understand this Hadith mubarak

yes i will........................infect i did, our Holy Prophet said it, it is enough for me to believe it............
 

Baseer Khan

Voter (50+ posts)
Re: Help me understand this Hadith mubarak

Thanks brother/sister for the quick reply.
Can you provide me the publication referrals (journal name and references). I work in a hospital in US and I would like to share the knowledge . But I will have to provide the references otherwise I will be ridiculed.

Would it be safe to dip a fly and drink water to obtain the antibiotic effect? Have you or any one you know has benefited from this practice?

Thanks for you input,

MK


Brother, I don't know what are you trying to prove here, you have to believe in what our Holy Prophet Mohammed pbuh has said, if you need scientific evidence or substantiated documents to follow it then where is your belief???

you are a unique case for me
 
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Baseer Khan

Voter (50+ posts)
Re: Help me understand this Hadith mubarak

Islam and Sunnah of our Holy Prophet Mohammed (SAW) will never ever contradict the science, It has be our our belief, many has already discovered few yet to be discovered that it certainly does not contradict science but our belief remains the same, it grow stronger every day.
 

basim973

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: Help me understand this Hadith mubarak

Volume 4, Book 54, Number 537:
Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet ( PBUH) said "If a house fly falls in the drink of anyone of you, he should dip it (in the drink), for one of its wings has a disease and the other has the cure for the disease."

Was The Prophet (PBUH) referring to the common house fly or some other insect?

Would you feel comfortable dipping a fly and drinking?

Please I need your comments because it is bothering me.

MK


Dear brother in Islam, think of the state of iman of sahabas when they heard this saying of the Prophet (pbuh). Did they straight away follw it or they had doubts in their minds or did they try to spread the doubts in the fellow muslims and look for scientific proofs................???????

My point is to lift the state of your iman...........check the authenticity of the Hadith and if proven from reliable sources then follow it blindly without any proofs from science as science makes many u-turns. The words of Quran and words of hadith are eternal and muslims should not look for any proofs.

I hope you get my point. May Allah guide us all on the straight path (Ameen)
 

wanderer

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Re: Help me understand this Hadith mubarak

Volume 4, Book 54, Number 537:
Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet ( PBUH) said "If a house fly falls in the drink of anyone of you, he should dip it (in the drink), for one of its wings has a disease and the other has the cure for the disease."

Was The Prophet (PBUH) referring to the common house fly or some other insect?

Would you feel comfortable dipping a fly and drinking?

Please I need your comments because it is bothering me.

MK


He said "IF" it falls. If it didnt u dont have to go about dipping it.
Secondly, the idea would be to not withdraw a fly as it falls into the drink, its said "dip it" so following that statement one would then DIP it in and then throw it out.. then drink whatever the drink is.
 

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