لال مسجد آپریشن کی تحقیقات کا عدالتی کمیش*

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Minister (2k+ posts)
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اسلام آباد: سپریم کورٹ نے لال مسجد واقعہ کی تحقیقات کیلئے جسٹس شہزاد الشیخ کی سربراہی میں عدالتی کمشن قائم کر دیا۔ کمیشن پینتالیس روز میں اپنی سفارشات پیش کرے گا۔لال مسجد آپریشن کے خلاف دائر درخواستوں کی سماعت چیف جسٹس افتخار محمد چودھری کی سر براہی میں تین رکنی بینچ نے کی۔ جامعہ حفضہ کے وکیل طارق اسد نے کہا کہ لال مسجد آپریشن میں جاں بحق ہونے والے جوانوں اور خواتین کو مجرم قرار دے کر لواحقین کو معاوضہ نہیں دیا جارہا۔ اے آئی جی پولیس طاہر عالم نے بیان دیتے ہوئے کہا کہ رپورٹ کے مطابق حکومتی رٹ کو چیلنج کیا گیا۔ ہم نے مسجد خالی کرنے کا کہا تھا لیکن حکم عدولی ہوئی ۔ لال مسجد والوں نے قانون نافذ کرنے والے افراد پرہتھیار اٹھایا۔ اس لیے آپریشن کرنا پڑا جس میں کل 103 ہلاکتیں ہوئیں۔ آپریشن میں قانون نافذ کرنے والے اداروں کے 11 اہلکار جبکہ 88 شدت پسند مارے گئے۔ کسی خاتون کی ہلاکت نہیں ہوئی۔ چیف جسٹس نے کہا کہ آپ غلط کہہ رہے ہیں۔ آپریشن میں معصوم بچیاں بھی جاں بحق ہوئی تھیں ۔ مرنے والے 88 افراد کو کیسے دہشت گرد قرار دے دیا گیا اگر یہ کیس بن جائے کہ پولیس نے تجاوز کیا تو پھر کیا ہوگا۔ ان بیانات سے آپ کی جان نہیں چھوٹے گی۔ لال مسجد بہت اہم معاملہ ہے۔ اس میں کوئی حکم جاری کرنا پڑے گا۔ انہوں نے کہا کہ الزام ہے کہ آپ نے آپریشن کیا تو ہلاکتیں ہوئیں آپ نے تو اب تک کسی مجرم کی شناخت ہی نہیں کی۔ ایک درخواست کے مطابق اسلام آباد پولیس کے خلاف آپریشن کا مقدمہ درج ہونا چاہیے تھا۔ انہوں نے استفسار کیا کہ کیا اس کیس کی کوئی عدالتی انکوائری ہوئی۔ اے آئی جی نے کہا کہ اس معاملے میں کوئی عدالتی کارروائی نہیں ہوئی جو رپورٹ ملی اس کی روشنی میں حقائق بیان کر رہا ہوں۔ جسٹس عظمت سعید نے کہا کہ ہماری زبان نہ کھلوائیں ہمیں معلوم ہے کہ لال مسجد آپریشن کے در پردہ کیا ہوا۔ کوئی قانون ہاتھ میں لے تو اس کا یہ مطلب نہیں کہ آپریشن کرو اور سب کو ختم کر دو۔ انہوں نے کہا کہ کارپٹ کے نیچے حقائق چھپانے سے کیس ختم نہیں ہوگا اور سچ کے بغیر یہ زخم نہیں بھرے گا۔ انہوں نے استفسار کیا کہ مولانا عبدالعزیز کی والدہ کہاں گئیں؟ اے آئی جی طاہر عالم نے کہا کہ مولانا عبدالعزیز کی اہلیہ ام حسان آپریشن کے دوران باہر آ گئی تھیں ان کی والدہ کا پتا نہیں چل سکا۔ سپریم کورٹ نے لال مسجد آپریشن کی تحقیقات کے لیے وفاقی شرعی عدالت کے جج جسٹس شہزاد الشیخ کی سر براہی میں عدالتی کمیشن بنادیا۔ کمیشن ان چھ نکات کی تحقیقات کرے گا کہ آپریشن کی وجوہات کیا تھیں؟ اس میں کتنے مرد و خواتین کی ہلاکتیں ہوئیں ؟ قانون نافذ کرنے والے کتنے افراد جاں بحق ہوئے؟ کیا تمام جاں بحق افراد کی شناخت ہو سکی اور لاشیں ورثا کے حوالے کی گئیں ؟ کیا ورثا کو معاوضوں کی ادائیگیاں کی گئیں ؟ آپریشن کے ذمہ داران کے خلاف کوئی کارروائی ہوئی یا نہیں ؟ کیا دستیاب حقائق کی بنیاد پرممکن ہے کہ معاملے کے ذمہ داران کا تعین ہوسکے؟ کمیشن 45 روز میں اپنی
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jee_nee_us

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: لال مسجد آپریشن کی تحقیقات کے لیے عدالتی ک

The incident which turned the fate of this country on its own.
 

IMQAYA

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: لال مسجد آپریشن کی تحقیقات کے لیے عدالتی ک

Judge keh rahay hai kay hamara mu na khalwayain. yay uss waqt kahan thay jab danda bardar niqab posh logon ko utha rahay thay.Phir sab say pehlay

ek colonal ko inhon nay shaheed kia.Rashid ghazi AK47 say firing kar raha tha.Wo dini darsgah thi ya takhreeb kari ka adda. Taliban judge.
 

AliYousafzai

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: لال مسجد آپریشن کی تحقیقات کے لیے عدالتی ک

eik commission es non-stop terrorism pe bhi ban jaata tu..
 

Fursan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: لال مسجد آپریشن کی تحقیقات کے لیے عدالتی ک

چیف جسٹس نے کہا کہ آپ غلط کہہ رہے ہیں۔ آپریشن میں معصوم بچیاں بھی جاں بحق ہوئی تھیں


Is the CJ judging the incident or giving his own judgement ???? WTF
 

BoneBasher

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: لال مسجد آپریشن کی تحقیقات کے لیے عدالتی ک

Judge sahab aap ki T .... me dam hey to zara Molvi burqa waley se ye to poochein ke andar se jo firing ho rahi thi wo weapon kahaan se aaya tha unke paas????? ya unooh ne phool mar mar commandos shaheed kar dye the???
 

Fursan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: لال مسجد آپریشن کی تحقیقات کے لیے عدالتی ک

Hey CJ, also ask who had first shot two Rangers personnel killing one of them, which ultimately started an operation against those thugs.
 

ashfaqgujar

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: لال مسجد آپریشن کی تحقیقات کے لیے عدالتی ک

(clap)(clap)(clap)(clap)دیر آید درست آید
 
Re: لال مسجد آپریشن کی تحقیقات کے لیے عدالتی ک

eik tu hamari sari qoam judge ban gai hai jahan say apna dil cheye baat shoro kar li jati hai . oss say pichalya haqaiq par mati dalo ...yeh jitnay oper loag lal masjid key khilaf bol rahey hain . zara eik bhi in mein say mujhe on ka jurm batye ga . molana abdullah lal masjid ke sehan mein shaheed kiye gai khan marey howey thay tum sab oss wakt . anti sahmeem ke chahney walo .iss koam par theek azab aya howa hai .. eik anti shameem ki khatir hafze quran bachey bachiyan marney wale sharabi **** ghasib general ke hamaiyati .. wakia karbal tu bahot darame kar kar ke sonatey ho whan rit challange nahe thi yahan syed musharaf ke khilaaf rit challange ho gai ..
 
Re: لال مسجد آپریشن کی تحقیقات کے لیے عدالتی ک

musharaaf iss mulk ka woh siyah baab hai jis ka ibrat naak injam iss mulk ke har firon ke liye ibrat ka nisahan bana zaroori hai .. lal masjid ki ak 47 tu nazar ati hai on ka baap shaheed howa masjid ke sehan mein kiyon na rakhtay woh asla .tum jesy farangi numa logon say umeed rakhtay insaf ki . karachi mein roz 10 bandey martey hein marney wali jamat mqm ko khola asla kis nay dia ..12 may tumhare samnhey hai woh rit challange nahe thi . chudry parvaiz alahi ka cousion chudry wajahat nay wajhat force bana rakhi hai gujrat mein oss 3000 hazar criminals ko army ka ban asla dena wala beghirat general musharaf woh rit challanage nahe hai .. jo katil mafroor hai wahan on ki oss force mein hai jis nay asla liya cheif justice ko gujrat gozartey howey katal karney ka .. tum sab chakey moon otha ke shoro ho jatey ho pata hota nahe hai
 
Re: لال مسجد آپریشن کی تحقیقات کے لیے عدالتی ک

jab lal masjid nay police ko report karwai ke tum sab ki anti shameem ka chakla band karwaoo tu police nay kaha ham nahe kar saktey oss ke oper minister ka haath hai .. kia easi police easi force ka kanon na mana rit challange hoti hai kon si rit . or jab osssi tumhari anti sahmeem ko lal masjid ki bachayan otha lai masjid mein phanti bhi lagi or shawar dey kar anida yeh dhanda na karney ka wada liya tu chora .. tum allah ki rit challange karo tu sabe theek hai woh tu jesay firono ki rit challange karein tu woh dhastagard ... ***** ki moat maray hain woh sab jinon nay lal masjid par hamala kia .. woh colonal or woh captain lohdi .. khuda qiyamat ke din on sab ko parvaiz musharaf ke bilkul sath khara karey or sab ko bhi .. or mujhay allah mian please molana ghazi shaheed or lal masjid walon ke sath karna roze mahsar
 

zhohaq

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: لال مسجد آپریشن کی تحقیقات کے لیے عدالتی ک

One of the worst incidents in the countries history.
The spark that ignited a fire storm.
Completely alienated the ultra right religious segment of society.
All of this was avoidable. There was zero justification for what happened.

If their is no accountability there will be no closure.

I read recently what the Americans really thought of it.
Its very interesting read.
Debunks many popular myths about the students being hostages, the Mosque having weapons etc.
The motivation for the action as other cables outline was mostly political.

http://wikileaks.org/cable/2007/07/07ISLAMABAD3027.html

SUBJECT: POLITICAL IMPLICATIONS OF THE RED MOSQUE OPERATION Classified By: Anne W. Patterson for reasons 1.4 (b) and (d) 1. (C) Summary. President Musharraf's decision to take military action against the Red Mosque removes a long-festering cell of extremism in Pakistan's capital. Although criticized for being "soft" on extremists, the government's delayed response reflected concern about keeping civilian casualties to a minimum and limiting negative consequences, especially in the Northwest Frontier Province (NWFP). [HI]Media reports of secret burials to hide the real casualty figures could erode what was widespread public support for action.[/HI] Religious parties and extremists have responded with so far limited demonstrations and attacks tied to the Mosque action. Al Qaeda's Zawahari has called for jihad against the government, which should stiffen government resolve for further action against extremists. 2. (C) Summary continued. [HI]The crisis exposed popular discontent with the government's ability to deliver basic services and law and order, even in the capital. The Red Mosque offered what the government often did not provide -- a safe haven for earthquake and rape victims, action to shut down brothels, and dispute resolution that conformed with the conservative (but not extremist) views of many Pakistanis.[/HI]
The militant's ability to hijack the Mosque's populist agenda also demonstrates how talibanization is spreading from the FATA to the NWFP. Musharraf is due to address the nation on the crisis; the question now is how quickly he will move to take further action against creeping talibanization. End Summary.


Entrenched Extremism and a Populist Agenda
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(C) The Red Mosque (LalMasjid) and its associated madrassas have been increasingly extremist since the 1980's when President Zia ul-Haq patronized the mosque and its previous leader Maulana Abdullah to encourage young Pakistanis to join the jihad against the Soviets. Maulana Abdullah's sons, Abdur Rashid Ghazi and Abdul Aziz, continued his firebrand tradition, and throughout the 1990's the mosque openly claimed ties to the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. After 9/11, the Red Mosque became increasingly isolated by mainstream religious leaders, religious political parties, and other madrassas. It also became the natural haven for militants from a host of banned extremist groups, such as Sipah-e-Sabah and Jaish-e-Muhammad. Videos and paraphernalia supporting Al-Qaeda in Iraq and other terrorist organizations were openly available inside the mosque.


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(C) [HI]Concurrently, the Red Mosque was developing a populist agenda by playing to the concerns of working- and lower-class communities who seldom receive adequate government services or effective justice. Neighbors, who had repeatedly petitioned the police to close a known brothel, asked the Red Mosque to intervene. The mosque provided a safe haven for the destitute, including earthquake and rape victims, often ignored by the government.[/HI] It offered the services of its [HI]"Sharia court" as a form of informal alternative dispute resolution to those frustrated by an ineffective justice system. The mosque's literature is highly populist in nature, calling for the rights of the underprivileged, relief for the homeless, rights for prisoners, and universal health care. [/HI]

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(C) Since January 2007, the self-styled [HI]Red Mosque "brigade" periodically kidnapped brothel owners, policemen, and foreign masseuses.[/HI] Militants in the guise of students were often seen chanting jihadist slogans outside the mosque, intimidating local CD shop owners, and occupying government property. These provocative and illegal actions occurred every few weeks and were resolved through negotiations with the government. Though it was widely known that the Red Mosque had a cache of heavy weaponry, [HI]the brigade had not used lethal force prior to July 3. [/HI]
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(C) Pakistani security officials have exercised restraint ISLAMABAD 00003027 002 OF 003 since January due to the presence of women and children in the mosque. This controlled response -- a combination of negotiations and a display of force -- was enough to keep the Red Mosque quiet for a few weeks each time. However, the repeated transgressions of the Red Mosque brigade frustrated both the public and government officials. [HI]The June 23 kidnapping of five Chinese massage parlor workers, which occurred on the eve of the Interior Minister's trip to Beijing, appears to have focused plans for action.[/HI] Violence began when militants inside the mosque fired on policemen who were erecting barbed wire barriers around the mosque to contain further Red Mosque brigade actions.

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(S/NF) For the operation against the Red Mosque, the government deployed its best-trained special operations forces, including troops with hostage rescue training, in order to minimize casualties. [HI]The 30-hour length of the final operation surprised most observers who had not expected the tenacity of the militants and the extent of their weaponry.[/HI]
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(C) The government took unprecedented steps (daily briefings, hotlines) to keep the media and public informed during the crisis.[HI] However, media reports of secret burials to hide the final casualty figures could quickly undermine government credibility and erode what had been widespread public support for military action.[/HI] How the government handles Ghazi's funeral will also affect public opinion in the NWFP.

Who was inside the mosque?
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9.
(C) Militants: The last holdouts within the mosque included approximately [HI]100 well-trained, well-armed terrorists.[/HI] The militants were reported to come from various banned terrorist organizations in Kashmir and in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA), including Sipah-e-Sabah, Jaish-e-Muhammad, and Lashkar-e-Jangvi. [HI]They were also responsible for bringing weapons inside the Red Mosque.[/HI]
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(C) Students: The Red Mosque has two associated madrassas Jamia Hafsa for females and Jamia Faridia (attached to the nearby Faisal Mosque) for males. Most of the approximately 7,000 enrolled students came from conservative families in the NWFP. [HI]From media interviews, it was clear that male and female students had been indoctrinated to enlist their participation in the violence. Many of the students -- both male and female -- participated in the violence.[/HI] The majority of the 3,000 to 5,000 people in the mosque who surrendered were students; most were remanded to their parents' or NGO custody.

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(C) The Destitute: [HI]The Red Mosque had also become a safe haven for many widows and orphans from areas affected by Pakistan's October 2005 earthquake. The mosque also supported several rape victims and other women who had been shunned by their families.[/HI] Many of these victims were released to the custody of NGOs. Initial public sympathy for the Red Mosque resulted partly from its aid to the destitute, but the use of such victims as bargaining chips in the final operation angered the public.

Talibanization
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12.
(C) Internationally, the media has focused on the Red Mosque as the prime example of the Pakistan's talibanization; [HI]however, the mosque has had mixed success on the ground. It certainly did not convert relatively liberal Islamabad to its extremist perspective. Even the staunchest Islamist parties, including the Jamaat-e-Islaami and the Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam, denounced the mosque's actions and distanced themselves from its leaders. The Deobandi madrassa accreditation board, Wafaqul Madaris, pulled the accreditation of the Red Mosque's associated seminaries in March 2007. Hard-line madrassas participated with the government in negotiations with Mosque leaders during the crisis. [/HI]

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(C) Most Pakistanis are religiously conservative but ISLAMABAD 00003027 003 OF 003 moderate. While they may sympathize with the Red Mosque leaders' accusations that the government is corrupt and un-Islamic, they oppose violent action. According to Pakistan national television's cell-phone poll (released July 6), 80 percent of the 5,300 respondents supported the government's handling of the situation. Bilqees Edhi, the co-founder of the Edhi Foundation (Pakistan's largest and most-respected NGO) condemned the Red Mosque leaders. She called the behavior of Ghazi and Abdul Aziz "the greatest dishonor of Islam and the country and its history."[HI] The main criticism that urban and elite Pakistanis share is that the government waited too long to act.[/HI]
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14.
(C) In some remote areas of the country and within other radical madrassas, particularly in NWFP and Balochistan, there is sympathy for the militants' willingness to stand up to what they see as corrupt, ineffective local and central government. Since the initiation of military operations on July 3, there have been a number of demonstrations and attacks on NGOs in support of the Red Mosque, primarily by madrassa students in towns across the NWFP and Balochistan. After the operation, religious parties criticized the government's actions, probably to gain political points among conservative Red Mosque sympathizers. The death toll from the military operation will likely be used by extremist groups, such as Tehreek-i Nafaz-i Shariat-i Mohammadi (TNSM), to justify further terrorist attacks in the NWFP. Al Qaeda's Zawahari July 12 issued a video condemning the attack and calling for jihad against Pakistan. The Wafaqul Madaris, which represents 17,000 madrassas, announced nationwide protests.

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(C) Pakistan witnessed vigilante tactics like those in remote areas well before the Red Mosque brigade became active in January 2007. Pakistan's security forces have not yet been able to enforce law and order in these areas. The presence of jihadi-trained extremists within the Red Mosque also highlights the ease with which such elements can travel from the FATA and Kashmir to Islamabad and other cities.

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(C) Concerned about negative reactions to the Mosque operation, including the death of Maulana Abdur Rashid Ghazi, the government July 11 announced a nation-wide security alert that includes increased police presence in sensitive areas and more security checkpoints. Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz announced in a special cabinet session that madrassas country-wide would be investigated to conform with Pakistani laws, especially those banning weapons.

Short and Long Term Effects
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17. (C) Comment: Most Pakistanis supported President Musharraf's handling of the crisis, although reports of a cover-up over casualties could quickly erode that support. Musharraf's reluctance to act quickly against the Mosque leaders ultimately allowed the militants time to alienate the general public and build support for a military response. At a time when the military was facing increasing criticism, it was able to demonstrate a continued capacity for decisive action. In comparison, the political opposition was ineffective in either criticizing the government or offering solutions, which may marginally help the ruling Pakistan Muslim League party in upcoming parliamentary elections.
18. (C) In the longer term, the government faces the specter of creeping talibanization by militants who capitalize on public discontent with the government's inability to deliver basic services and law and order. Musharraf now plans to take action against the spread of talibanization in the NWFP and extremism elsewhere in the country; implementing his plan will require substantial military and economic development resources. End Comment. PATTERSON
 
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Re: لال مسجد آپریشن کی تحقیقات کے لیے عدالتی ک

iss mulk mein koi rabia imran kisi bakrey waley ko police say marway tu rit challange nahe hoti .. karachi mein begunah logon ka roz khon ho rit challange nahe hoti .loag bahok aflas say khudkhusi kariein rit challange nahe hoti .dron hamala kar ke na paksitan ki salmiyat par fark nahe parta rit bhi challange nahe hoti .alema ahlesunat or karkun shaheed ho jain court ke bahir rit challange nahe hoti ,koi general nashay mein iktadar par kabza kar lay rit challange nahe hoti ..koi firon supreem court par hamla kar dai rit challange nahe hoti .kisi bhuto ka beta jahaz aghwah kar lay rit challange nahe hoti.kisi gilani ka beta drug bechay rit challange nahe hoti. loag pene ke saf pani ko tarsain or phir sailab mein beh jayin rit challange nahe hoti .. han rit challange hoti hai agar koi iss fironiyet ke nazam ko sirf danda lay kar lalkarey .han rit challange hoti hai sawat mein koi jali video a jaye tu .han rit bhi challange hoti hai or insaniyat bhi cheeikh parti hai agar kisi malala ko dispreen ki goli lag jye .. mukar munafiq .apney app kab tak dhoka karo gai .***** barsay iss mulk mein basney waley har munafiq par ... mein bhi munafiq hon munafiq na hota tu lal masjid mein on ke sath shaheed hota ab betha comment kar raha hon .
 

zhohaq

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: لال مسجد آپریشن کی تحقیقات کے لیے عدالتی ک

Even more revealing is PML Q Chaudrey Shujaat account at the time to embassy officials .
This was an earlier stand off on CDA campaign of demolishing Mousqes in the capital.

He was the lead government negotiator in the stand off.
http://wikileaks.org/cable/2007/04/07ISLAMABAD1846.html

SUBJECT: RED MOSQUE (LALMASJID) STAND-OFF OFFICIALLY OVER

REF:

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ISLAMABAD 1647 B. ISLAMABAD 1688 C. ISLAMABAD 1698 ISLAMABAD 00001846 001.2 OF 002 Classified By: Charge Peter Bodde 1.5 (b), (d).

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(C) SUMMARY: The stand-off between the [HI]Government and the Jamia Hafsa women's madrassa officially ended the night of April 24. Pakistan Muslim League President Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain toured the madrassa and confirmed the students there had met all the government's demands.[/HI] The government, in turn, agreed [HI]not to destroy more mosques without first consulting with affected communities and agreed to "enforce sharia law," which in this controversy has become a euphemism for anti-vice and anti-pornography laws.[/HI] [HI]Musharraf's and Shujaat's willingness to ignore daily calls from opposition parties and from the press to "enforce the writ of the state" ultimately allowed the crisis to end without bloodshed.[/HI] End Summary.


THE STAND-OFF OFFICIALLY ENDS

2.
(C) Pakistan Muslim League President Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain told us April 25 that all outstanding disagreements between the women of Jamia Hafsa and the Government of Pakistan were resolved. [HI]Shujaat had toured the madrassa the night before and seen no men, militants, weapons, or swagger sticks (batons). He also confirmed that the children's library adjacent to the madrassa -- site of a months-long sit-in -- was open to the public. In short, the madrassa had met all of the government's demands. [/HI]
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(C) [HI]Shujaat complained that the press had sensationalized and misreported the Red Mosque story from the beginning. Coverage of the controversy's denouement was no different. Headlines claimed that the government had agreed to "enforce sharia law," but what the women had actually demanded was enforcement of existing laws against pornography, prostitution, and other crimes.[/HI]


WHO'S INSIDE
THE MADRASSA




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(C) [HI]Shujaat told us he was shocked by the number of children and teenagers in the madrassa. He claimed that the security and police services, when briefing him on possible methods of ending the stand-off through force, had not reported the significant number of children in the building. [/HI]Shujaat had spoken to many of the girls during his tour; most of them were orphans or children of destitute parents.

SHUJAAT: THE GOVERNMENT CAUSED THIS UNNECESSARILY


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(C) [HI]Shujaat said he would not represent the government again in negotiations with the madrassa or mosque. He believed the government had behaved "stupidly" from the beginning of the crisis.[/HI] The precipitating event of the stand-off -- [HI]the government's demolition of mosques built without permits -- should not have occurred without consulting the affected communities, especially since some of the mosques had been built decades earlier.[/HI] [HI]Shujaat also complained about the April 16 low-level helicopter surveillance of the mosque, which had offended the residents' conservative sensibilities. Shujaat suspected that, in both cases, relatively junior decision makers had acted rashly in an effort to "stand up to the mullahs." Senior government officials would have been more circumspect, according to Shujaat. [/HI]


THE LAW AND ORDER VACUUM -- AND WHAT FILLS IT

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(C)[HI] Shujaat noted that the entire Jamia Hafsa saga was a metaphor for the law and order problems facing Pakistan.[/HI] The ISLAMABAD 00001846 002.2 OF 002 press criticized the government's failure to enforce the writ of the state inside the madrassa and mosque, [HI]but the cause of the controversy's escalation was the state's refusal to enforce basic laws in the mosque's neighborhood.[/HI] (Note: On March 27, [HI]Jamia Hafsa women kidnapped three prostitutes and a child from a brothel near the Red Mosque and held the kidnapees in the madrassa for several days. The madrassa students told the press they took action only after the police repeatedly told mosque officials they would not shut down the brothel, which was located on a small street of tiny row houses. About 40 families lived on the street, and all had signed petitions requesting the police close the brothel; the police had also ignored those petitions[/HI]. End Note.)


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(C) While he was visiting Jamia Hafsa, [HI]Shujaat met with two women who recently took refuge in the mosque. The two, aged 17 and 19, were raped two months ago by an "influential man" in Jelhum, Punjab. After the police refused to file charges against the rapist, the girls fled to Jamia Hafsa . he madrassa has since issued press releases noting the failure of the state to seek justice. Shujaat met with the two young women on April 24. He confidentially told us that the older one is pregnant from the rape. During his meeting with us, he returned to the young women's plight several times, and was clearly upset by the situation. As we left, he told us he was working on "making sure the state seeks justice for those girls." [/HI]


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(C) Comment: Shujaat has a reputation for being the PML-Q's ruthless political enforcer. Throughout the Red Mosque controversy, though, [HI]we have found him to be concerned about the well-being of the girls and women inside the madrassa and committed first and foremost to resolving the stand-off with no violence. The press -- which has been sensationalist and less-than-transparent throughout this saga -- may very well report tomorrow that Shujaat "caved to the mullahs" by agreeing to reexamine the mosque destruction issue and by promising to enforce anti-vice laws.[/HI] The reality, though, is that President Musharraf's and [HI]Shujaat's waiting out the controversy averted a potential human tragedy and political crisis. [/HI]
 
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alhumdolillah

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: لال مسجد آپریشن کی تحقیقات کے لیے عدالتی ک

LAL MASJID ko INSAAF milna chahiya.....warna PORA PAKISTAN INSAAF ka liya be TARASTA RAHAY GA..............jasay DRONE HAMLON main majboor para ha...atomic bomb honay ka bawajood.

Dunya or akhrat main ALLAH ruswa karay ga jo HAQ ka sath na da...............inshaALLAH.
 

accord7362

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: لال مسجد آپریشن کی تحقیقات کے لیے عدالتی ک

CJ acha khasa chaltay chalty , mamun wali batain karnay lag jata hayy ;)
 

Haristotle

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: لال مسجد آپریشن کی تحقیقات کے لیے عدالتی ک

Judge keh rahay hai kay hamara mu na khalwayain. yay uss waqt kahan thay jab danda bardar niqab posh logon ko utha rahay thay.Phir sab say pehlay

ek colonal ko inhon nay shaheed kia.Rashid ghazi AK47 say firing kar raha tha.Wo dini darsgah thi ya takhreeb kari ka adda. Taliban judge.


Danda Bradar Niqabposh kin logon ko Utha rahey Thai, Ap hee Kuch Roshni Daleye.
 

Ahmad Ali

Banned
Re: لال مسجد آپریشن کی تحقیقات کے لیے عدالتی ک

challo khair is se haqiqat to awam k samne aaye gi k wahan koi bache shaheed nai howe the sab darama bazi hai media ki
is baat ko to main ne live khud daikha k seb se pehli goli lal masjid walon ne chalai thi forces par
CJ sahib ko jo joote pare the army se yeh sab uske dil mein kante ban k chubte hein isi liye bahane dhoondta hai k kisi na kisi tarah army ko hit kar sake yeh
lekin afsos bechara kuch kar nahi pata
 

cricket4life

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: لال مسجد آپریشن کی تحقیقات کے لیے عدالتی ک

Will he also launch investigation for the 40,000 innocent Muslims in blasts??or he's too coward for that?woh familian bhi insaaf chahti hain..unhein bhi bataya jaye kiyon mara gaya tha.
 

love4all

MPA (400+ posts)
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