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saqi81

MPA (400+ posts)
جو نبی دے دیں اسے لے لو اور زیادہ سوال نہ کرو
آپ نے جو پوچھا ہے اس کی تفصیل بھی احادیث میں موجود ہے
کچھ تحقیق کریں آپ کو جواب ضرور مل جاۓ گا

Swal karna bori bat nahee or nahe asa kaheen hay kay "jo dain wo lay loo,"
Balkay Alaah talah tahqeeq ko psand karta.
 

دوسرا_سوال

Minister (2k+ posts)
if a woman asks for haq-mehar, she is called bay-sharam and threatened that no one will marry her...
a lot of women's parents ask them to not take their portion of inheritance and they agree only because they don't want to be called greedy...

fix the big problems instead before nit-picking on the smaller issues! You don't give me my rights and you want to nit-pick on eyebrows! unbelievable!
Excuse me madam, please do not detract us from the focus. Small things matter too. Just after reading your advice, I got up and was about to go and fix the big problems like haq-mehar and such but all of a sudden I stumbled and fell down.

When I investigated why I had fallen down, it turned out that I was so focused on the big issue, I completely overlooked the small fact that I had not adjusted my trouser correctly to Islamically prescribed regulation height. Therefore, I deserved to stumble and fall down, and the moral that I learnt and also everyone else must learn is that small things matter more.

Now, if it were not for your distracting advice of only focusing on the big issues (which made me lose sight of the small issues and stumble over my trouser), the matter of haq-mehar abuse would have been resolved already. So, now the blame of all such unfairness is on you and your distraction.

Case closed.
 

Username

Senator (1k+ posts)
Do your research and your doubts will be gone.

I have done my research !

You hvant posted complete Hadith. This is the complete Hadith

"Allah has cursed those women who practise tattooing and those who get themselves tattooed, and those who remove their face hairs, and those who create a space between their teeth artificially to look beautiful, and such women as change the features created by Allah. Why then should I not curse those whom the Prophet (ﷺ) has cursed? And that is in Allah's Book. i.e. His Saying: 'And what the Apostle gives you take it and what he forbids you abstain (from it).'"

1. According to this hadith removing or plucking hair from all other parts of body including arms, feet, legs, hands is not prohibited. Doesnt it sound strange to you? Can you believe that?

2. According to the Hadith Plastic and Cosmetic surgery is also prohibited as features created by Allah should NOT be changed. What? Seriously?

3. So features created by Allah are not to be changed? Right. How do we medically treat a twsited organ? A birth fault? A kid with an extra but useless hand? A kid with 6 fingers where one finger is dead?

4. What if a woman develops unusually high levels of androgens in the blood and suffers from hirsutism (Excessive Growth of Hair On Face etc, like a beard), she cant do anything about this problem? Because hair plucking is the chief remedy in this disease.

Clearly this hadith cant be words of our Prophet SAW whose wisdom, we believe, is higher than all the wisdom on Earth
 

Humi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Stop being a grammar nazi, nothing wrong with my punctuation there. I hyphenated my exclamation marks for added effect and there is no rule against that.

I checked ! - ! - ! - ! - !

for added effect, we do "!!!!!!" instead of the punctuation mess that you made!
 

دوسرا_سوال

Minister (2k+ posts)
I have done my research !
On behalf of all the forum members, I thank you for the effort you put in conducting your research. Now allow me to answer the questions you've raised:

1. According to this hadith removing or plucking hair from all other parts of body including arms, feet, legs, hands is not prohibited. Doesnt it sound strange to you? Can you believe that?
No because no one else sees any other parts. Women must be covered in a shuttle-cock type burqa at the least. The must wear socks and gloves to cover up their feet and hands as well. Therefore you are wrong and religion is right.


2. According to the Hadith Plastic and Cosmetic surgery is also prohibited as features created by Allah should NOT be changed. What? Seriously?
Yes, seriously. Like totes seriously.


3. ...How do we medically treat a twsited organ? A birth fault? A kid with an extra but useless hand? A kid with 6 fingers where one finger is dead?
Kill them. Kill all the freaks. Kill them right now!


4. What if a woman develops unusually high levels of androgens in the blood and suffers from hirsutism (Excessive Growth of Hair On Face etc, like a beard), she cant do anything about this problem? Because hair plucking is the chief remedy in this disease.
Well then you don't marry that woman. Why create such a long winded accusation on religion being wrong, on a totally random forum. Just say no to her, man. Easy.
 

Humi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
I have done my research !

You hvant posted complete Hadith. This is the complete Hadith

"Allah has cursed those women who practise tattooing and those who get themselves tattooed, and those who remove their face hairs, and those who create a space between their teeth artificially to look beautiful, and such women as change the features created by Allah. Why then should I not curse those whom the Prophet (ﷺ) has cursed? And that is in Allah's Book. i.e. His Saying: 'And what the Apostle gives you take it and what he forbids you abstain (from it).'"

1. According to this hadith removing or plucking hair from all other parts of body including arms, feet, legs, hands is not prohibited. Doesnt it sound strange to you? Can you believe that?

2. According to the Hadith Plastic and Cosmetic surgery is also prohibited as features created by Allah should NOT be changed. What? Seriously?

3. So features created by Allah are not to be changed? Right. How do we medically treat a twsited organ? A birth fault? A kid with an extra but useless hand? A kid with 6 fingers where one finger is dead?

4. What if a woman develops unusually high levels of androgens in the blood and suffers from hirsutism (Excessive Growth of Hair On Face etc, like a beard), she cant do anything about this problem? Because hair plucking is the chief remedy in this disease.

Clearly this hadith cant be words of our Prophet SAW whose wisdom, we believe, is higher than all the wisdom on Earth

It sounds to me that this hadeeth was made up just to control women because someone perceived eye-brow shaping to be promiscuous or attention grabbing of the male gender...
 

QaiserMirza

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
i have done my research !

You hvant posted complete hadith. This is the complete hadith

"allah has cursed those women who practise tattooing and those who get themselves tattooed, and those who remove their face hairs, and those who create a space between their teeth artificially to look beautiful, and such women as change the features created by allah. Why then should i not curse those whom the prophet (ﷺ) has cursed? And that is in allah's book. I.e. His saying: 'and what the apostle gives you take it and what he forbids you abstain (from it).'"

1. according to this hadith removing or plucking hair from all other parts of body including arms, feet, legs, hands is not prohibited. Doesnt it sound strange to you? Can you believe that?

2. according to the hadith plastic and cosmetic surgery is also prohibited as features created by allah should not be changed. What? Seriously?

3. so features created by allah are not to be changed? Right. How do we medically treat a twsited organ? A birth fault? A kid with an extra but useless hand? A kid with 6 fingers where one finger is dead?

4. what if a woman develops unusually high levels of androgens in the blood and suffers from hirsutism (excessive growth of hair on face etc, like a beard), she cant do anything about this problem? Because hair plucking is the chief remedy in this disease.

clearly this hadith cant be words of our prophet saw whose wisdom, we believe, is higher than all the wisdom on earth



نہ ہی حدیث غلط ہیں اور نہ ہی رسالت مآب کی عقل و فراست پر شک
یہ ہماری اپنی کم عقلی ہے کہ ہم رسول اکرم کے الفاظ کو اپنے مفاد اور اپنے مطلب کے مطابق ڈھالنا چاہتے ہیں
اور جب کامیابی نہیں ملتی تو قصور حدیث کا ہو جاتا ہے
 

دوسرا_سوال

Minister (2k+ posts)
for added effect, we do "!!!!!!" instead of the punctuation mess that you made!
Now we are using majestic plurals, are we?

Or is it that you're referring to how exclamations are done in C-a-n-a-d-a? Last I checked, there are no exclamation marks in Canada, rather just some 'eh' sound is used when a "!" is needed.

(There, I hyphenated all over your beloved homeland too.)
 

Humi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Now we are using majestic plurals, are we?

Or is it that you're referring to how exclamations are done in C-a-n-a-d-a? Last I checked, there are no exclamation marks in Canada, rather just some 'eh' sound is used when a "!" is needed.

(There, I hyphenated all over your beloved homeland too.)

We Canadians don't like to exclaim as they can be perceived as being rude...
 

ualis

Minister (2k+ posts)
Majprity of Ahadith are not authentic. please do not quote hadith which contradict Quran.



نہ ہی حدیث غلط ہیں اور نہ ہی رسالت مآب کی عقل و فراست پر شک
یہ ہماری اپنی کم عقلی ہے کہ ہم رسول اکرم کے الفاظ کو اپنے مفاد اور اپنے مطلب کے مطابق ڈھالنا چاہتے ہیں
اور جب کامیابی نہیں ملتی تو قصور حدیث کا ہو جاتا ہے
 

The ironclad

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)

مرے پرایو ،اسلام ایک عالمی مذہب آے پتا نہیں مولوی قیصر کیوں اسلام دا استمال صرف بغلان تے آکھاں دے بروٹے تک ہی محدود کر دتا وے
 

The ironclad

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
if a woman asks for haq-mehar, she is called bay-sharam and threatened that no one will marry her...
a lot of women's parents ask them to not take their portion of inheritance and they agree only because they don't want to be called greedy...

fix the big problems instead before nit-picking on the smaller issues! You don't give me my rights and you want to nit-pick on eyebrows! unbelievable!


حق مہر تے سارے ہی دیندے نے ،دو چار چولان نو چھڈ کے جیڑے معافیاں منگدے پھردے نے
دوسری گل تواڈی سچ وے،تے تیسری گل دے بارے وچ مولوی قیصردا دماغ پھریا وے
تے چوتھی گل تسی وی عورت نو دنیا دی سب تو مظلوم ہستی بنا کہ پیش نہ کرو
 

Democrate

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

سنا تھا ایک دور تھا وہ بھی کیا دور تھا ،چنگیز خان اپنے لشکر کے ساتھ ٹوٹی پجی امّت مسلمہ کے مزید ٹوٹے کرنے بغداد کی طرف رواں دواں تھا اور اسی وقت ہمارے خلفا اسلام اور انکی محافل مین جو سب سے زیادہ مسلہ درپیش تھا وہ یہ کے آخر اسلام میں کوا کیوں حرام ہے ،آج امّت مسلمہ کو جو مسائل درپیش ہیں انکو
چھوڑ کر ایک دوسرے کے بال کاٹنے اور اسپر اعتراز کیے جا رہے ہیں
مجھے تو اتنا پتا ہے خدا نے انسان کو خوب صورت بنایا ہے اسکو جاذب نظر آنا بھی چائیے ،کم از کم انکے لئے جو محرم ہیں

 

Democrate

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
جو نبی دے دیں اسے لے لو اور زیادہ سوال نہ کرو
آپ نے جو پوچھا ہے اس کی تفصیل بھی احادیث میں موجود ہے
کچھ تحقیق کریں آپ کو جواب ضرور مل جاۓ گا


اچھا چلو قیصر بھائی تھوڑی رہنمائی فرمایو
اگر ایک بندے کے دانت گر جایں ستر سال کی عمر میں ،تو اسکی نیے دانت لگوانے چائیے کے نہیں
اگر نہیں لگواتا تو پانی پی پی کر مر جائے گا یا پھر دلیہ کھا کھا کر
حل یہ ہو سکتا ہے وہ ایک جنونی ہو جس کا عقل اور سمج سے کوئی تعلق واسطہ نہ ہو اور وہ موت کو زندگی پر ترجیح دے دے
بات یہ بھی ہو سکتی ہے کے ساری زندگی اس نے اسلام کے اص
ولوں پر عمل کیا ہو لیکن چونکہ اب دانت لگوانا خدا کے کاموں میں مداخلت ہے اور وہ رہ نہیں سکتا تو وہ اسلام کو چھوڑ دے ،آخر جینا بھی تو ہے اب ہر کوئی آپ کی طرح تقوہ کے آله معیار پر تو فائز نہیں ہو سکتا
سوال تو یہ بھی کیا اسلام لوگوں کے لئے آسانی پیدا کرتا ہے یا وہ راستہ کھولتا ہے جس سے انکی زندگی میں مشکلات ہوں ،سچی بات ہے یہ بات آپ نے کسی کافر کو بتا دی تو اسکی اگلی ١٠٠ نسلیں بھی اسلام سے دور بھاگیں گی

 

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