ابرو کے بال صاف کرنے والی خواتین

[دوسرا_سوال]

for added effect, we do "!!!!!!" instead of the punctuation mess that you made!

Look at you. And then at this thread. The topic was about "punishing women who shape their brows" but you've successfully detracted it to "correct use of exclamation marks"...

Much tsk tsk.

 

[Sam Sam]

There is a space craft which recent went past Pluto. And here we have have Muslims scaring people for waxing/threading eyebrows.

Wtf is our future?

اسی بات کا تو رونا ہے مگر ملا فساد فی سبیل اللہ اور اس کے چاہنے والوں کو کون سمجھائے

 

[JusticeLover]

Sahih Bukhari - Book 77, Hadith 146
Narrated `Abdullah:


Allah has cursed those women who practise tattooing and those who get themselves tattooed, and those who remove their face hairs, and those who create a space between their teeth artificially to look beautiful, and such women as change the features created by Allah. Why then should I not curse those whom the Prophet (ﷺ) has cursed? And that is in Allah's Book. i.e. His Saying: 'And what the Apostle gives you take it and what he forbids you abstain (from it).' (59.7)


Other references
In-book reference Book 77, Hadith 146
Reference Sahih al-Bukhari 5931
USC-MSA web (English) reference Vol. 7, Book 72, Hadith 815

Related Quran verses
59.7
حَدَّثَنَا عُثْمَانُ، حَدَّثَنَا جَرِيرٌ، عَنْ مَنْصُورٍ، عَنْ إِبْرَاهِيمَ، عَنْ عَلْقَمَةَ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ، لَعَنَ اللَّهُ الْوَاشِمَاتِ، وَالْمُسْتَوْشِمَاتِ، وَالْمُتَنَمِّصَاتِ وَالْمُتَفَلِّجَاتِ لِلْحُسْنِ، الْمُغَيِّرَاتِ خَلْقَ اللَّهِ تَعَالَى، مَالِي لاَ أَلْعَنُ مَنْ لَعَنَ النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم وَهْوَ فِي كِتَابِ اللَّهِ ‏**‏وَمَا آتَاكُمُ الرَّسُولُ فَخُذُوهُ‏**‏‏.‏


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Allah has cursed those women who practise tattooing and those who get themselves tattooed, and those who remove their face hairs, and those who create a space between their teeth artificially to look beautiful, and such women as change the features created by Allah. Why then should I not curse those whom the Prophet has cursed? And that is in Allah's Book. i.e. His Saying: 'And what the Apostle gives you take it and what he forbids you abstain (from it).' (59.7)​

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FULL HADITH AND DESCRIPTION

Looks like islam forbids face hair removal. any kind of tatoos ie mehandi

 

[JusticeLover]

Finding about the narrator abdullah bin masood , i found an other interesting story here its linked.
http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthre...d-amp-His-Copy-of-Quran&p=3500157#post3500157

 

[Cape Kahloon]

Bhai username ager app Muslim hain
tu pher Hadese Kay jawab main yeh kahana ka I have doubt, Now what ?
yeh now what? kess sey kahray ho.
Ager app ko doubt ha tu thaqee kro or
Hum sub ko batoo Kay yeh hadise doubtful ha. App ko ISS ke jaza Millay ge.
Or srif yeh kha dena Now what? koe senses able bat nae.
App ko kuch ajeeb sa nea lagta begar theqeeq Kay yeh khatay howay Kay yeh hades doubtful ha. So Now what ??

 

[pak_moderator]

hadees ke bare mn bhi sahi hades btao k ju hadees quran se tele kare wo hadees hai baqi ku deewar per dey maro
zara es per light dalo,

 

[taiga]

There is no such thing as feminism now...its all about women showing themselves to be be better than men...

regardless, it does't change the fact that these issues exist and you can't just sweep them under the rug because of some women's behaviour...

Also, what kind of an example is this? Just because you are a male, doesn't mean you have to drive...last time I checked, you don't need high levels of testosterone in order to drive...

It was a simple analogy, I didn't said that woman can't or shouldn't drive. Point was simple and clear "Jab Aurtoon ko gender base par relief milay then its ok or jab gender ki wajha say hi kisi kam say roka jaye then its Sexism." Ab aap khud hi daikh lijiey, aap nai bus mein seat milnay walay waqai par "TAbsra" karna munasib nahi samjha or car drive karnay wali baat ko rule/restriction percieve kar lia....

 

[kaka1]

[h=1]Plucking Of The Eyebrows In Islam. Prof. Tahir ul qadri[/h]

[h=1]Maulana Ishaq[/h]

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[Username]

1. please explain why do you feel its strange?
2. yup seriously because cosmetic surgery and plastic surgery change your facial features.
3. twisted organs, birth defects are medical problems that need to be treated. while this hadith is about normal person.
4. again its a medical problem that needs to be treated.

1. Hadith uses one word "women". It doesnt specify or give discount to any medical conditions.

2. Hadith doesnt sound true (and strange to me ) because it doesnt take into account any medical conditions, neither does it talk about other body parts, or even about other genders. If " changing facial features is not liked by God" then obviously it should've been an order for everyone. Now accordin to this hadith, women only are addressed, makin it acceptable for men. Women cant get cosmetic surgery but men can. Could it be stranger than that?

3. Given hadith is a negation of the very nature of Women, who are naturally more keen to look beautiful for their men and Mehrams. Islam, as we know, is a natural religion. How could a natural religion insist women to keep lookin ugly and not do anythin about it?

4. Hadith is also against overall spirit of Islam where women are encouraged to "serve" their men the best possible way. How could they do that without lookin reasonbly beautiful?

First two points are insanely disturbing. While we dicuss ahadith we must keep in mind that word of Prophet SAW cannot be wrong but the person who attribites a certain text to God CAN BE WRONG. So here i'm discussing the very nature of this text, which is attributed to Prophet SAW, its overall validity and viability. Imam Bukhari never said all his ahadith were true. Some later on proved false too. Its not Quran.

Keepin in view, the points mentioned in this post and the post before this, i dont think this is word of Prophet SAW.

 

[Username]

Bhai username ager app Muslim hain
tu pher Hadese Kay jawab main yeh kahana ka I have doubt, Now what ?
yeh now what? kess sey kahray ho.
Ager app ko doubt ha tu thaqee kro or
Hum sub ko batoo Kay yeh hadise doubtful ha. App ko ISS ke jaza Millay ge.
Or srif yeh kha dena Now what? koe senses able bat nae.
App ko kuch ajeeb sa nea lagta begar theqeeq Kay yeh khatay howay Kay yeh hades doubtful ha. So Now what ??

Read my new post please.

I said "now what" because this forum is flooded with many fake ahadith. I was only frustrated. I'm sorry.

 

[zerozero]

Jab itna sub pata hay to apna haq na milay to cheen lo us ko kon rok raha hay? bayshak haq hay aurat ka HAQ MEHER! lo us ko!
magar is chakar main koe or kaam to kerogay he nahin aap log kay pehlay haq mehar milay nahin to main eye brows bhe banwani hain! namaz bhe nahin perhne hay roza bhe nahin rakhna hay kion kay haq mehar nahin mil raha
is chakar main kor or kaam sahi na kerain kay aik chez nahin mil rahe?
bhai jo nahin mil raha or haq hay to us ko cheeno na! haq lo apna kon keh raha hay kay bal na katwao eyebrow kay or haq mehar na lo?

if a woman asks for haq-mehar, she is called bay-sharam and threatened that no one will marry her...
a lot of women's parents ask them to not take their portion of inheritance and they agree only because they don't want to be called greedy...

fix the big problems instead before nit-picking on the smaller issues! You don't give me my rights and you want to nit-pick on eyebrows! unbelievable!

 

[Username]

I have done my research !

You hvant posted complete Hadith. This is the complete Hadith

"Allah has cursed those women who practise tattooing and those who get themselves tattooed, and those who remove their face hairs, and those who create a space between their teeth artificially to look beautiful, and such women as change the features created by Allah. Why then should I not curse those whom the Prophet (ﷺ) has cursed? And that is in Allah's Book. i.e. His Saying: 'And what the Apostle gives you take it and what he forbids you abstain (from it).'"

1. According to this hadith removing or plucking hair from all other parts of body including arms, feet, legs, hands is not prohibited. Doesnt it sound strange to you? Can you believe that?
(Yes, Body hairs are excess baggage, so they need to be cleared. For women, they can pluck/remove beard & mustache) do study a bit more about it. Do believe it, if you clean it , you don't need spray/fragrance to hide body odour etc.

2. According to the Hadith Plastic and Cosmetic surgery is also prohibited as features created by Allah should NOT be changed. What? Seriously?
(Yes, You aren't allowed to change yourself. Cosmetic surgery, do read about Sex change. )

3. So features created by Allah are not to be changed? Right. How do we medically treat a twsited organ? A birth fault? A kid with an extra but useless hand? A kid with 6 fingers where one finger is dead?
(mostly, twisted organs/birth defects aren't due to DNA, but due to wrong steps/food/drugs/errors by parents etc, so treatment isn't prohibited).

4. What if a woman develops unusually high levels of androgens in the blood and suffers from hirsutism (Excessive Growth of Hair On Face etc, like a beard), she cant do anything about this problem? Because hair plucking is the chief remedy in this disease.
(Anything, which is out of ordinary, is exempted. Religion gives guidelines, for masses, but flexible for Individual Cases)

Clearly this hadith cant be words of our Prophet SAW whose wisdom, we believe, is higher than all the wisdom on Earth
(Clearly, you haven't given the hadith more thought , thats why you are skeptic of its wisdom or understanding).

Have you even read the hadith?
have you written these lines while asleep?