Video shows Pakistan army abuse
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Re: Army of Pakistan Beating Pashtun Elders.
taliban and alqaeda deserve this treatment...imagine if he is the one who lashed that poor swat girl ...
army should not treat them like this..they should treat them worse like wolves ..
takay yeh zalil taliban peda honay se pehlay hi ma ke pet may mar jaya karain!!!!!
taliban and alqaeda deserve this treatment...imagine if he is the one who lashed that poor swat girl ...
army should not treat them like this..they should treat them worse like wolves ..
takay yeh zalil taliban peda honay se pehlay hi ma ke pet may mar jaya karain!!!!!
Zaidi Qasim
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Army of Pakistan Beating Pashtun Elders.
There is a very little doubt that this nation has become a psychopathic , Tabilan Obsessed nation and among them are those who themselves could be cruel and ruthless animals they blame others to be.There is also some of these blinds who are full of hatred yet like themselves to be called civilized ,doesn't themselve believe on any justice and would do the same ruthless tortures they accuse Taliban of commiting. To me, those two trouble maker are at each others throat.One for mighty Dollars and others for preceived Islam. Allah save us from both of them.
prabhumast said:
There is a very little doubt that this nation has become a psychopathic , Tabilan Obsessed nation and among them are those who themselves could be cruel and ruthless animals they blame others to be.There is also some of these blinds who are full of hatred yet like themselves to be called civilized ,doesn't themselve believe on any justice and would do the same ruthless tortures they accuse Taliban of commiting. To me, those two trouble maker are at each others throat.One for mighty Dollars and others for preceived Islam. Allah save us from both of them.
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[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5bjN3Q6aA8[/video]
Pakistani soldiers are seen apparently abusing Taliban suspects in a 10-minute video which has been posted on the social networking site, Facebook.
The video would be the first clear proof of such abuse. It shows men in military uniform beating suspects as officers stand by giving instructions.
It is not clear who shot the film or where. It appears to have been made recently, perhaps in the Swat valley.
Pakistan's army has said it needs to examine the video before commenting.
Conversations heard on the video suggest it is recent. Troops recently declared they had largely cleared the Swat valley of insurgents after a sustained offensive there.
Human rights groups have accused the military of being involved in torture and extra-judicial killings in the region.
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"This is a very serious accusation," Gen Athar Abbas, head of Pakistan army's public relations wing, told the BBC when asked about the video.
"I cannot comment on the video till we have examined it. This will take some time as the army headquarters will have to be involved in the process."
The footage shows an officer in Pakistani army battle uniform interrogating several suspects, some of whom are quite elderly and are presumably relatives of men being sought.
When the officer does not receive satisfactory answers, he motions with his head and soldiers rush in to punish the suspect.
They then beat him with belts, fists and what appear to be small whips. He is also kicked all over the body by soldiers wearing heavy army boots.
The suspect is heard screaming and imploring the soldiers to stop in the name of Allah, repeatedly saying he has told them all he knows.
In the video the soldiers administering the beating have to be restrained by the officer on at least two occasions.
Threats
After an initial round of punishment, the officer tells a suspect that this is "soft treatment". Unless the suspect tells all, the officer says he will have to administer "hard punishment".
"You don't want me to cut off your hands and feet," the officer says.
If confirmed, this would be the first clear proof of the Pakistani army being involved in the abuse of detainees.
The Human Rights Commission of Pakistan (HRCP) and other groups have accused the army of such violations during the recent Swat campaign.
The HRCP says it has also found evidence that the army is involved in extra-judicial killings in the region.
The Pakistani army has consistently denied the reports, calling them "baseless."
But it has also said it will investigate if any solid proof emerges of its personnel being involved in such activities.
Pakistani soldiers are seen apparently abusing Taliban suspects in a 10-minute video which has been posted on the social networking site, Facebook.
The video would be the first clear proof of such abuse. It shows men in military uniform beating suspects as officers stand by giving instructions.
It is not clear who shot the film or where. It appears to have been made recently, perhaps in the Swat valley.
Pakistan's army has said it needs to examine the video before commenting.
Conversations heard on the video suggest it is recent. Troops recently declared they had largely cleared the Swat valley of insurgents after a sustained offensive there.
Human rights groups have accused the military of being involved in torture and extra-judicial killings in the region.
Whips
"This is a very serious accusation," Gen Athar Abbas, head of Pakistan army's public relations wing, told the BBC when asked about the video.
"I cannot comment on the video till we have examined it. This will take some time as the army headquarters will have to be involved in the process."
The footage shows an officer in Pakistani army battle uniform interrogating several suspects, some of whom are quite elderly and are presumably relatives of men being sought.
When the officer does not receive satisfactory answers, he motions with his head and soldiers rush in to punish the suspect.
They then beat him with belts, fists and what appear to be small whips. He is also kicked all over the body by soldiers wearing heavy army boots.
The suspect is heard screaming and imploring the soldiers to stop in the name of Allah, repeatedly saying he has told them all he knows.
In the video the soldiers administering the beating have to be restrained by the officer on at least two occasions.
Threats
After an initial round of punishment, the officer tells a suspect that this is "soft treatment". Unless the suspect tells all, the officer says he will have to administer "hard punishment".
"You don't want me to cut off your hands and feet," the officer says.
If confirmed, this would be the first clear proof of the Pakistani army being involved in the abuse of detainees.
The Human Rights Commission of Pakistan (HRCP) and other groups have accused the army of such violations during the recent Swat campaign.
The HRCP says it has also found evidence that the army is involved in extra-judicial killings in the region.
The Pakistani army has consistently denied the reports, calling them "baseless."
But it has also said it will investigate if any solid proof emerges of its personnel being involved in such activities.
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arshad_lahore
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where is now Pakistani free media, so called NGO's....they just see that show (girl flogging in sawat ) make by USA for army action....... :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: ..... this is again make Pakistan name so bright.... :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
This is all fucking propoganda against the PAK Army....there is no need for this to be in public ..... we know such things happen or are happening, but to put such a thing in public (NOTE WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A FAKE LIKE THAT GIRL'S VIDEO IN SWAT WAS FAKE)......but remember, if we release one video of CIA torture around the world, it will be game over for them .....
shaheedchoudry
Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Army of Pakistan Beating Pashtun Elders.
WHO???????? I AM SURE YOU MEAN TALIBAN.aping3 said:
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Siasati
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this is nothing new, there have been various reports of pakistani army's abuse on pakistani media as well. we are all animals and have started doing the same exact stuff that we criticize talibans of doing.
raju
Senator (1k+ posts)
Good to see the propaganda against Pakistan take a turn towards the army jawans! Certain powers would LOVE the people to dispise our Afwaj-e-Pakistan and some.....people just play into it!
A killing in Kashmir hardly get any replies but when it comes to those afghans then wow!
A killing in Kashmir hardly get any replies but when it comes to those afghans then wow!
raju said:
Propaganda or not, this sort of treatment is uncalled for.
Look, talibans are animals, I would like to kill some of them myself if i could. But this is not something any army should do.
As for kashimirs and all, yes, it is true that waht the indian army oes to them never appears in the media. But that doesnt make this right
Has the authenticity of this video been confirmed? If it has, it should be fairly easy to apprehend the culprits, since a number of a faces are shown in the video and thus these people, who can be identified must be questioned and name and shame those responsible for this barbaric behaviour, which cannot be justified, Taliban or not.
I would guess that people have been arrested on the basis of suspicion of colluding with/harbouring the enemy or that they have may have information on the Taliban. Surely there is a more humane method of interrogation than what is depicted in the video? Surely the line is not that fine in terms of the need to extract information in a meaningful way and acts of thuggery?
I would guess that people have been arrested on the basis of suspicion of colluding with/harbouring the enemy or that they have may have information on the Taliban. Surely there is a more humane method of interrogation than what is depicted in the video? Surely the line is not that fine in terms of the need to extract information in a meaningful way and acts of thuggery?
ammar_pakistani
Citizen
yeh taliban ne islam ko jitna badnam kiya hai buss taliban ne jitna zulm kiya hai wo swat mein mere relative se poocho taliban deserves thats agar in se aisa salook na karein tou inho ne poora mulk? islam k naam par kharab kar daina hai
AND PLZ TRY TO AVOID THESE VIDEOS......some times for getting the facts and save people lifes we have to deal with them like that
we should be united
pakistan army really wiped out talibans from swat without fearing for their own lives
ACTUALLY WE HAVE THIS MIS CONCEPTION OF TALIBAN IN SWAT THE PEOPLE IN SWAT WHO ARE DOING ALL THIS IN THE NAME OF ISLAM ARE ACTUALLY NT MUSLIMS THEY ARE BEING SPONSERED BY INDIAN AMERICANS AND ISRAEIL WE CAN SEE THAT EVEN THE REAL TALIBANS IN AFGHANISTAN THEY DONT LIKE THEM SO ARMY HAS DONE A GRETA JOB AND ARMY OFFICERS AND SOLDIERS SAVED MANY LIFES OF OUR SWATI PEOPLE
THIS IS AGAIN A PROPAGANDA AGAINST PAK ARMY
PAKISTAN ARMY ZINDABAD
AND PLZ TRY TO AVOID THESE VIDEOS......some times for getting the facts and save people lifes we have to deal with them like that
we should be united
pakistan army really wiped out talibans from swat without fearing for their own lives
ACTUALLY WE HAVE THIS MIS CONCEPTION OF TALIBAN IN SWAT THE PEOPLE IN SWAT WHO ARE DOING ALL THIS IN THE NAME OF ISLAM ARE ACTUALLY NT MUSLIMS THEY ARE BEING SPONSERED BY INDIAN AMERICANS AND ISRAEIL WE CAN SEE THAT EVEN THE REAL TALIBANS IN AFGHANISTAN THEY DONT LIKE THEM SO ARMY HAS DONE A GRETA JOB AND ARMY OFFICERS AND SOLDIERS SAVED MANY LIFES OF OUR SWATI PEOPLE
THIS IS AGAIN A PROPAGANDA AGAINST PAK ARMY
PAKISTAN ARMY ZINDABAD
land of love
Citizen
dont be the part of this bull shit against pakistani army.this is time of war.we are with pakistani army.... :)
pakistan army zinda baad pakistan painda baad.
pakistan army zinda baad pakistan painda baad.
ejazbabloo
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
This is totally Biasism, Fascism, Un ethical, Un Islamic and Appaling acts by Pak Army.
We pashtoons will never ever foget these atrocities by Napak Army and MQM recently biasism with IDPs.
Dil khoon ke Ansoo rota hai.
In begharat nam nihad Jawano ko zara Sharam nahi aaye ke apne baap ki umer k logo ko is tara mare .
They were just beaten only and only because they had beared . Every 2nd Pashtoon has beard so all the pashtoons are Taliban.
That was same Mehsood and Wazirs who faught in Kashmir and Kargil and been martyred for this country and in returned for that Pakistani Elite Esteblishment give them the gifts of Slaughter and massacare.
For us there is no difference between thos fitnae azeem fake Taliban and Napak Army.
Can any one of this forum answer a very very simple question. what we have witnessed is
HOW COM A MAN HANGED IN GREEN CHOWK MINGOWRA WHILE THERE WAS A CURFEW.
EVERY HANGED AND SLAUGHER MAN HAS DISCOVERED AFTER LIFTING THE CURFEW HOW COME HOW ITS POSSIBLE DURING THE CURFEW IMPOSED BY NAPAK ARMY.
ALHUKUMULILLAH
ALMULKULILLAH
AFGHAN BAQI
KOHSAR BAQI.
We pashtoons will never ever foget these atrocities by Napak Army and MQM recently biasism with IDPs.
Dil khoon ke Ansoo rota hai.
In begharat nam nihad Jawano ko zara Sharam nahi aaye ke apne baap ki umer k logo ko is tara mare .
They were just beaten only and only because they had beared . Every 2nd Pashtoon has beard so all the pashtoons are Taliban.
That was same Mehsood and Wazirs who faught in Kashmir and Kargil and been martyred for this country and in returned for that Pakistani Elite Esteblishment give them the gifts of Slaughter and massacare.
For us there is no difference between thos fitnae azeem fake Taliban and Napak Army.
Can any one of this forum answer a very very simple question. what we have witnessed is
HOW COM A MAN HANGED IN GREEN CHOWK MINGOWRA WHILE THERE WAS A CURFEW.
EVERY HANGED AND SLAUGHER MAN HAS DISCOVERED AFTER LIFTING THE CURFEW HOW COME HOW ITS POSSIBLE DURING THE CURFEW IMPOSED BY NAPAK ARMY.
ALHUKUMULILLAH
ALMULKULILLAH
AFGHAN BAQI
KOHSAR BAQI.
ejazbabloo
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
That all Topi Drama was staged just to please Uncle Sam and to get Dollers by Cowarrd
Gernails and Dallay Polititions and to defame Islam and True Jihad.
The slogan of Napak Army that used to be
Eman, Taqwa, Jihad fe SabiLILLAH
but now its
Dollers, BeghaIrati , and Qital fe sabile Amreca.
Gernails and Dallay Polititions and to defame Islam and True Jihad.
The slogan of Napak Army that used to be
Eman, Taqwa, Jihad fe SabiLILLAH
but now its
Dollers, BeghaIrati , and Qital fe sabile Amreca.
ejazbabloo
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: Army of Pakistan Beating Pashtun Elders.
That all Topi Drama was staged just to please Uncle Sam and to get Dollers by Cowarrd
Gernails and Dallay Polititions and to defame Islam and True Jihad.
The slogan of Napak Army that used to be
Eman, Taqwa, Jihad fe SabiLILLAH
but now its
Dollers, BeghaIrati , and Qital fe sabile Amreca.
That all Topi Drama was staged just to please Uncle Sam and to get Dollers by Cowarrd
Gernails and Dallay Polititions and to defame Islam and True Jihad.
The slogan of Napak Army that used to be
Eman, Taqwa, Jihad fe SabiLILLAH
but now its
Dollers, BeghaIrati , and Qital fe sabile Amreca.
ejazbabloo
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: Army of Pakistan Beating Pashtun Elders.
This is totally Biasism, Fascism, Un ethical, Un Islamic and Appaling acts by Pak Army.
We pashtoons will never ever foget these atrocities by Napak Army and MQM recently biasism with IDPs.
Dil khoon ke Ansoo rota hai.
In begharat nam nihad Jawano ko zara Sharam nahi aaye ke apne baap ki umer k logo ko is tara mare .
They were just beaten only and only because they had beared . Every 2nd Pashtoon has beard so all the pashtoons are Taliban.
That was same Mehsood and Wazirs who faught in Kashmir and Kargil and been martyred for this country and in returned for that Pakistani Elite Esteblishment give them the gifts of Slaughter and massacare.
For us there is no difference between thos fitnae azeem fake Taliban and Napak Army.
Can any one of this forum answer a very very simple question. what we have witnessed is
HOW COM A MAN HANGED IN GREEN CHOWK MINGOWRA WHILE THERE WAS A CURFEW.
EVERY HANGED AND SLAUGHER MAN HAS DISCOVERED AFTER LIFTING THE CURFEW HOW COME HOW ITS POSSIBLE DURING THE CURFEW IMPOSED BY NAPAK ARMY.
ALHUKUMULILLAH
ALMULKULILLAH
AFGHAN BAQI
KOHSAR BAQI.
This is totally Biasism, Fascism, Un ethical, Un Islamic and Appaling acts by Pak Army.
We pashtoons will never ever foget these atrocities by Napak Army and MQM recently biasism with IDPs.
Dil khoon ke Ansoo rota hai.
In begharat nam nihad Jawano ko zara Sharam nahi aaye ke apne baap ki umer k logo ko is tara mare .
They were just beaten only and only because they had beared . Every 2nd Pashtoon has beard so all the pashtoons are Taliban.
That was same Mehsood and Wazirs who faught in Kashmir and Kargil and been martyred for this country and in returned for that Pakistani Elite Esteblishment give them the gifts of Slaughter and massacare.
For us there is no difference between thos fitnae azeem fake Taliban and Napak Army.
Can any one of this forum answer a very very simple question. what we have witnessed is
HOW COM A MAN HANGED IN GREEN CHOWK MINGOWRA WHILE THERE WAS A CURFEW.
EVERY HANGED AND SLAUGHER MAN HAS DISCOVERED AFTER LIFTING THE CURFEW HOW COME HOW ITS POSSIBLE DURING THE CURFEW IMPOSED BY NAPAK ARMY.
ALHUKUMULILLAH
ALMULKULILLAH
AFGHAN BAQI
KOHSAR BAQI.
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