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خدا کو مانوں۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ اپنے آپکو پٹواری ثابت کرنا بہت ضروری ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔؟
چل تھوڑی سی تحقیق کر اور یہ بتا کہ اکتوبر 1999 سے پہلے غربت کتنی تھی؟
چل تھوڑی سی تحقیق کر اور یہ بتا کہ اکتوبر 1999 سے پہلے غربت کتنی تھی؟
Sohail Shuja
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
What are these "Points" you are referring to? the figures are already quoted in percentages in the graphs. You are requested to see the referenced graphs again. You are taking percentage of the percentages.... what sort of statistics is that?
In Musharraf's era, poverty dropped from 62 to 42% (not points) in 6 years (2002 to 2008), that is a straight drop of 20% which averages as 3.33% per year, as per the stats quoted by WSJ.
Similarly, from 2008 to 2014 (6 years) the drop down is from 42 to 29%, a straight drop of 13%, averaging only 2.16% per year. See the graph again here
Now, as per UNDP Data, in Musharraf's Era the drop down was from 55 to 49% (6%) in 4 years (2004 to 2008), which averages as 1.5% per year.
The decline from 2008 to 2015 (7 years) is from 49 to 39% (10%), averaging 1.42% per year. Please see the graph again, here
And please do also note here that from 2012 to 2015 (3 years), the drop down shown here is only 2%, averaging only 0.66% per year.
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Sohail Shuja
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
اوہ، اچھا، تو ۱۹۹۸ کے ایٹمی دھماکوں کے بعد تو پوری دنیا کا سرمائیہ پاکستان آ رہا تھا؟
"When General Musharraf had taken over in October 1999 by toppling Nawaz Sharif, Pakistans total public debt as percentage of its GDP was the highest in South Asia 99.3 percent of its GDP and 629 percent of its revenue receipts, compared to Sri Lanka (91.1 percent & 528.3 per cent respectively in 1998) and India (47.2 percent & 384.9 percent respectively in 1998).
The debt-to-GDP ratio was 81 percent in 2000, 83 percent in 2001, 87.9 perent in 2002, 81.8 percent in 2003, 75.9 percent in 2004, 68.3 percent in 2005, 63.5 percent in 2006, 57.5 perent in 2007, 54.9 per cent in 2008,"
Source: The News International (01 Feb, 2016) [Online] can be accessed here
Sohail Shuja
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Are you deliberately not quoting the time and importance of Nuclear power plants or is it the people living in PAEC colonies genuinely do not know this?
On the other hand, Hydropower projects take 10 years when they are started from scratch, but Pakistan already has the infrastructure of dams with it. Lets try to analyse why we are failing at Tarbela 4 project...??? an try to find out that whether this project was due to reach its potential in 10 years??? or was it any earlier???
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1296008/tarbela-extension-project-fast-tracked-failure/
RajaRawal111
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Do you have slightest idea about the installation cost of a Nuclear Plant, the engineering tolerances are 4 times over the ASME codes used to set up thermal plant. So just the steam transfer piping only costs 4 times over compared to thermal plant. This does not include actual cost on main reactor and the safety control system to damp the reaction. If you want to talk to me on this subject I can go in every depth you want. Further you dont have to go crazy on Nuclear Plants. How a nuclear plant can become a disaster is well known. If you dont know Please search 5 mile Island, Chernobyl, and Fuku Shima accidents. Mind it these accidents took place in first word. May Allah forgive us, if such accidents happen in Pakistan, how confident you could be that it will be easily controlled.
So far as Turbela is concerned. Let me tell you that tribune news is and over exaggerated account. There are some hiccups in the projects which will delay it a bit but there is nothing for you to be so happy.
So far as Turbela is concerned. Let me tell you that tribune news is and over exaggerated account. There are some hiccups in the projects which will delay it a bit but there is nothing for you to be so happy.
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سب سے پہلے تو یہ پراجیکٹ ٥-٧ لاکھ ڈالر کا نہیں یہ پچیس کروڑ ڈالر کا ہے ، تم روزویلٹ کو اس طرح یقین کے ساتھ رو رہے ہو جیسے جس وقت نواز شریف نے آفر کروائی تھی تم اسکی گود میں بیٹھے ہوۓ تھے
What are these "Points" you are referring to? the figures are already quoted in percentages in the graphs. You are requested to see the referenced graphs again. You are taking percentage of the percentages.... what sort of statistics is that?
In Musharraf's era, poverty dropped from 62 to 42% (not points) in 6 years (2002 to 2008), that is a straight drop of 20% which averages as 3.33% per year, as per the stats quoted by WSJ.
Similarly, from 2008 to 2014 (6 years) the drop down is from 42 to 29%, a straight drop of 13%, averaging only 2.16% per year. See the graph again here
Now, as per UNDP Data, in Musharraf's Era the drop down was from 55 to 49% (6%) in 4 years (2004 to 2008), which averages as 1.5% per year.
The decline from 2008 to 2015 (7 years) is from 49 to 39% (10%), averaging 1.42% per year. Please see the graph again, here
And please do also note here that from 2012 to 2015 (3 years), the drop down shown here is only 2%, averaging only 0.66% per year.
یہ پرسینٹیج بھی تو کسی نہ کسی پوائنٹس کو مدنظر رکھ کے نکالی گئی ہو گی ، اور جب آپ گول کے نزدیک آ رہے ہوتے ہیں پرسنٹیج سلو ہو ہی ہو جاتی ہے
aqsa.mateen
Citizen
lolxxxxxxxxxxx very funny
نادان
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
:crazy::crazy::crazy:
lgta hy Khottay kha kha kr b kuch logo ke Aqal Khottay jsi hi ho jye gy, itni bri profile pic nazer nhee aa rhy Andhay khottay ko
:crazy::smashfreakB::133:
ایسے نہیں بولتے ..کسی کو بھی نہیں کہتے .
وہ تو پھر میرے دوست ہیں ..پلیز
نادان
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
:crazy::crazy::crazy:
lgta hy Khottay kha kha kr b kuch logo ke Aqal Khottay jsi hi ho jye gy, itni bri profile pic nazer nhee aa rhy Andhay khottay ko
:crazy::smashfreakB::133:
آپ بھی تو بلا وجہ انہیں ڈس لائک دے رہے تھے
OnlyPK
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
kya apko asa nhe lgta k ghtiya bat krny wla ghtiyaa soch ka malik ho skta hy ??? (hmm)
نادان
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
اگر 2002 میں 60٪ تھی تو 1999 میں کوئی 10٪ نہیں ہوگی۔ ۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ان دنوں میں اس سے بھی گئی گزری صورتحال ہوگی۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ 1999 میں تو زرمبادلہ کے زخائر ہی بمشکل کچھ کروڑ ڈالرز میں تھے کیونکہ نواز چھوڑتا ہی نہیں تھا۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ سب منی لانڈرنگ کرکے باہر بھیج دیتا تھا۔ ہمیں یاد ہے کہ اس گنجے کے دور میں تو لوگوں کو آٹا تک نہیں ملتا تھا۔
Sohail Shuja
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
OK, if I take your point of Safety in nuclear power plants, then why don't you criticize the projects of CHASNUPP 4 and 5? should they've been built in the first place?
Secondly, according to my frail knowledge and understanding, there is difference of Capital costs of construction of Nuclear and Thermal power plant by region.
Source: http://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/economic-aspects/economics-of-nuclear-power.aspx
So you may point your finger at the LCOE of US, but please come to the ground reality that we are living in Asia and the closest to our LCOE is Korea in this case. But wait, there is more to come about the cost uncertainty here:
Source: http://www.world-nuclear.org/upload.../rsb-challenge-npp-investment-cost.png?n=9378
Now lets break it down to the hardcore figures here
Projected nuclear LCOE costs for plants built 2015-2020, $/MWh
[TABLE="width: 100%"]
[TR]
[TD]Country[/TD]
[TD]At 3% discount rate[/TD]
[TD]At 7% discount rate[/TD]
[TD]At 10% discount rate[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Belgium[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]51.5[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]84.2[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]116.8[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Finland[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]46.1[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]77.6[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]109.1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]France[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]50.0[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]82.6[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]115.2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Hungary[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]53.9[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]89.9[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]125.0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Japan[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]62.6[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]87.6[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]112.5[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]South Korea[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]28.6[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]40.4[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]51.4[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Slovakia[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]53.9[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]84.0[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]116.5[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]UK[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]64.4[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]100.8[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]135.7[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]54.3[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]77.7[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]101.8[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]China[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]25.6-30.8[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]37.2-47.6[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]48.8-64.4[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Source: OECD/IEA-NEA, Projected Costs of Generating Electricity, 2015 Edition, Table 3.11, assuming 85% capacity factor
Reference link: http://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/economic-aspects/economics-of-nuclear-power.aspx
On the other hand, as one of my thesis was on Nuclear Powerplant Safety, and I had the privilege of visiting the 4th Generation Nuclear facilities being set up in Europe, I will ask thy grand self that why we are still focused on the old technology of Pressurized nuclear reactors? Even China is building 4th generation power plants which use molten sodium for heat transfer. Well, you will be right to say that this technology is still not on the market, but hey..... India is also building one.. try to search for fourth generation Thorium based power plants in India. Why can't we?
Why shall we always keep dependent on others? Where is our ownself in all this?
Even dependent on fuel supply for our LNG plants??? it would have been better if we could build another one on local coal.... and develop some solution to treat the flu gas.
On the other hand, why are you trying to white wash the crimes of NS on Tarbela 4? Keep in mind that the work suspension order has been issued by the contractor and not the GOP. Third thing is that the Tarbela's 5th channel is still empty...... got my point?
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OnlyPK
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
itna hi buht hy ksi ke soch jan ne k liye, :) [FONT="]Thanks For Understanding. [/FONT]
is forum pr kai asy log hy jo Political Rivalry pr buht anab shnab bkty hy pr kbi ksi member se btameezi nhe krty, despite of political difference, I do admire them.
نادان
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
لیکن وہ تو آپ کے مسلسل ڈس لائیک کے بعد لکھا تھا ..میرے حساب سے نہیں لکھنا چاہئے تھا .
لیکن میرا حساب یہاں چلتا ہی کب ہے
uturninqlab
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
شوقین جی ، کے پی صوبے کو اس تنزلی میں شامل نہ کریں ،خیبر پختون خواہ ترقی یافتہ صوبہ بن چکا ہے وہاں پہ گزشتہ 4 سالوں میں رہکارڈ خوشحالی اور ترقی آئی ہے ، وہاں کے لوگوں کا معیار زندگی باقی صوبوں کی نسبت بہت بلند ہوچکا ہے،،2008 اور 2013 کے درمیانی عرصے میں مجال ہے جو نیازی کو زرداری حکومت پہ تنقید کی توفیق ہوئی ہو ،اس عرصہ میں ہم نے دیکھا کہ آج کی طرح نیازی شریف برادران کو ہی گالیاں بکتا تھا ، اب زرداری کی پارٹی سندھ میں برسر اقتدار ہے ،صوبے 3 یا 4 سال سے مالی طور پہ خود مختار ہیں ،کراچی اور سندھ میں امن وامن کے علاوہ ہر لحاظ سے حالات تباہ کن ہیں مگر نازی کو توفیق نہیں وہاں کے مسائل پہ بات کرے ، ،،،پاکستان میں مسلسل بہتری آرہی ہے ، سی پیک سے خوشحالی آئے گی ، بجلی کے منصوبے مکمل ہونے سے صعنتی ، زرعی اور دیگر کاروباری سرگرمیاں بڑھیں گی ، دہشت گردی کا 90 فی صد تک خاتمہ ہوگیا ہے، ،،ہر وقت مایوسی پھیلانا اچھی بات نہیں ۔۔۔اے آروائی کے انجام سے سبق سیکھنے کی ضرورت ہے ،جھوٹ کے پاؤں نہیں ہوتے۔
uturninqlab
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
:biggthumpup:تحریک انساف کے پٹواریو اے آروائی کے انجام سے سبق حاصل کرو ،جھوٹ کے پاؤں نہیں ہوتے
