There is no Imam Mahdi (A.S.) (Na-Auoozubillah) - Javed Ahmad GHAMIDI The King of LIARS

WatanDost

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Thanks Lord of the Universe. At last You accepted that and I pray that you may remain
firm on this whole of your life.

Recourse is towards Allah, the Lord of the Universe. Knower of the Visible and
Invisible, of the past, present and the Future.
I am not going to be asked by my Lord if I believed in the coming of Imam
Mahdi or not, this is not part of the Eemaan of a Muslim.

Your other query about "hands tied up" to whom it refers. please if you so wish,
open another thread and put your all questions there. Everyone will perhaps participate.

My dear i posted two video PROOFS of LIAR GHAMDI here
In first one he is DENYING IMAM MEHDIS CONCEPT.
In second one he is ADMITING that "My opinion is that Hazrat Umar bin Abdul Aziz was IMAM MEHDI"

Is Mr GHAMDI is convinced through ANY AYA OF QURAN?
Or
From HADITH?
 

Benito

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
My dear i posted two video PROOFS of LIAR GHAMDI here
In first one he is DENYING IMAM MEHDIS CONCEPT.
In second one he is ADMITING that "My opinion is that Hazrat Umar bin Abdul Aziz was IMAM MEHDI"

Is Mr GHAMDI is convinced through ANY AYA OF QURAN?
Or
From HADITH?

@babadeena
In first one he is DENYING IMAM MEHDIS CONCEPT.
He is denying there is know Imam Mahdi coming or such personalty... There is no Imam Mahdi; its about future, Right!
In second one he is ADMITING that "My opinion is that Hazrat Umar bin Abdul Aziz was IMAM MEHDI"
He thinks it was Late Umer RA, at that time... You know what is meaning of Mahdi.
 

babadeena

Minister (2k+ posts)
My dear i posted two video PROOFS of LIAR GHAMDI here
In first one he is DENYING IMAM MEHDIS CONCEPT.
In second one he is ADMITING that "My opinion is that Hazrat Umar bin Abdul Aziz was IMAM MEHDI"

Is Mr GHAMDI is convinced through ANY AYA OF QURAN?
Or
From HADITH?
[MENTION=17789]WatanDost[/MENTION]
I am not defending Mr. Ghamdi. I am defending that what is or what is not
in Quran. If Mr. Ghamdi or anyone says that "there is no such thing in Quran",
then He is right, or some one may point out the Verse/Sura. That is all.
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Thanks Lord of the Universe. At last You accepted that and I pray that you may remain
firm on this whole of your life.

Recourse is towards Allah, the Lord of the Universe. Knower of the Visible and
Invisible, of the past, present and the Future.
I am not going to be asked by my Lord if I believed in the coming of Imam
Mahdi or not, this is not part of the Eemaan of a Muslim.

Your other query about "hands tied up" to whom it refers. please if you so wish,
open another thread and put your all questions there. Everyone will perhaps participate.

Good to know at last you recognized my company accepts Mahdi is not mentioned in Quran and we never claimed it in past too. We also believe it is a weak argument to reject something if it is not mentioned in Quran there are so many thing which are not mentioned in Quran but in Hadeeth and we believe and follow them.

Will you be asked about circumcision? If "Yes" why it is not mentioned in Quran. If "No" why Muslim do this practice?

Let me correct you. Question about "hands tied up" was WHY during Makki period Muslims followed this order although it was not mentioned in Quran. and
in Madni period Who were those people who were asking why surah in not revealed. What did Ghamdi say about that class?
 

babadeena

Minister (2k+ posts)
Will you be asked about circumcision? If "Yes" why it is not mentioned in Quran. If "No" why Muslim do this practice?
Already a member has given answer to this? that is enough.

Let me correct you. Question about "hands tied up" was WHY during Makki period Muslims followed this order although it was not mentioned in Quran. and
in Madni period Who were those people who were asking why surah in not revealed. What did Ghamdi say about that class?
Please contact Ghamdi Sb.? for this. Mine questions/answers on this will make your
situation even more worse. If u r really interested start another thread with suitable heading?
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Already a member has given answer to this? that is enough.

Please contact Ghamdi Sb.? for this. Mine questions/answers on this will make your
situation even more worse. If u r really interested start another thread with suitable heading?

If you think you are in such a strong position, why don't you start that thread yourself. What I said on this thread I will say on that thread too "It is not an valide excuse to reject some thing because it is not mentioned in Quran, there are so many things which are not mentioned in Quran but in Hadeeth and they are part of Islamic believes and practices."
 

Benito

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
If you think you are in such a strong position, why don't you start that thread yourself. What I said on this thread I will say on that thread too "It is not an valide excuse to reject some thing because it is not mentioned in Quran, there are so many things which are not mentioned in Quran but in Hadeeth and they are part of Islamic believes and practices."

I think [MENTION=7169]babadeena[/MENTION] is in very good position, if [MENTION=6134]atensari[/MENTION] care to create new thread, he shall get answers..

of course it is.... but dont point otehrs on their interpretation..

Hadeeth are the sayings of prophet S.A.W which don't add anything to the shariah of Islam and are the explanation of Quranic verses while sunnah are the established religious practices of the ummah.
 
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Bret Hawk

Senator (1k+ posts)
Since the debate of this thread has dragged on till now therefore I should add one dimension to this issue. By treading on this course I hope we will be able to locate the tracks of this issue that why the major faiths of the world, including Islam, have the urge of a Messiah / saviour of their fortunes in the last stages of this world, in which we are definitely in by the way.


  • The course of these events of the world does have any purpose and end or not?
  • If someone responds with an affirmative answer then what design and shapes will these current events will take place by considering the past and present causes of these events and their internal currents?
  • According to the design of Friedrich Hegel’s shaping of universal and world events which force /s can play their part in his famous course of Thesis-Antithesis & Synthesis?
  • Does Holy Quran and any other divine scripture guides us for the eventuality of these events of our world in an explicit or implicit manner or not?


I hope when we can debate on the roadmap with the four pointers indicated in above section then we might get to the logical reasoning of the need of giving an influential & charismatic saviour of mankind in End Times.
 
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raz30

MPA (400+ posts)
Allama Iqbal didn't believe in Imam Mahdi????? Are you serious? Mate, you don't know anything then. Ibn e Khuldun was a historian of lesser credibility as in his muqaddimah, he has clearly stated that he has quoted all that he had heard without verifying it. Sindhi was no freedom fighter as well, lets not pull more history into it or there would be chapters of what he actually did to Muslims.



Good one mate. The reason behind negating Imam's A.S existence is to negate the reason for jihad as ghamdi clearly said that there were requirements and status of jihad that was analysed by Muhammad pbuh and after visaal, who has the authority to ascertain the same reasons and status. This happens when a person starts using more of intellect and relies on it than being humble and seeking guidance from Allah.

Very Good Analysis. Thats why i do not want to follow a clean shave man upon Religious Matters, NEVER. He is an impostor ...

and for all the bullsh!t that ignorants like Faust6 are writing, The Holy Quran confirms The 2nd Coming of Hazrat Isa (PBUH) in Chapter 43.

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[TD="bgcolor: #ffffee"]59. وہ (عیسٰی علیہ السلام) محض ایک (برگزیدہ) بندہ تھے جن پر ہم نے انعام فرمایا اور ہم نے انہیں بنی اسرائیل کے لئے (اپنی قدرت کا) نمونہ بنایا تھاo[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #ffffee"]59. He (?Isa [Jesus]) was only an (exalted) servant whom We blessed with favour. And We made him an example (of Our might) for the Children of Israel.[/TD]
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61. And surely (when) he, (Isa [Jesus], descends from heaven), he will be a sign of (the nearness of) the Last Hour. So do not doubt it at all. And keep following Me. This is the straight path.
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
I think @babadeena is in very good position, if @atensari care to create new thread, he shall get answers..

Hadeeth are the sayings of prophet S.A.W which don't add anything to the shariah of Islam and are the explanation of Quranic verses while sunnah are the established religious practices of the ummah.

@babadeena He is yet failed to prove his criteria of rejecting a belief or practice which is mentioned in Hadeeth but not available in Quran Majeed. Thread should be created before when first statement was given "Where Mahdi is defined in Quran", any how its never too late.

Hadeeth are integral source of Shariaht. Although my earl question not replied in the light of Quran and Hadeeth here is another example.
Are men allowed to marry real Aunt (پھوپھی،خاله) and her real Neisse (بھتیجی، بھانجی ) simultaneously? if No what is the source of this Law?
 
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pathseeker

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Rejection of al-Mahdi

A flip side of the Murabitun 'Gold Dinar 'mantra is their 'Don’t Expect the Mahdi' mantra. The entire Qadyani heresy is founded on a similar denial because a pseudo-mahdi wants no rival. The appearance of the Mahdi is in fact mass-transmitted by over twenty Companions of the Prophet, upon him and them blessings and peace, as documented by the Moroccan hadith Master of Damascus Shaykh Muhammad ibn Ja`far al-Kattani in his dictionary of mutawatir hadiths titled Nazm al-Mutanathir. This places whoever knowingly denies belief in the appearance of the Mahdi beyond the pale of Sunni belief or somewhere worse.

To justify their ignorance of the Sunnah with regard to the Mahdi in ostensible Shari`ah terms, the Murabitun’s only stilt is Ibn Khaldun’s anti-Mahdi hadithic argument which Vadillo fastidiously reproduces in full in his book (p. 753-770). He is blissfully oblivious to the fact that those arguments are just as irrelevant today as they were in Ibn Khaldun’s time, since he is not considered an authority in hadith and its sciences. Al-Kattani said: “I have seen in our time many people expressing doubt about al-Mahdi, saying: ‘Are the hadiths pertaining to him really decisive as evidence or not?’ and many of them choose to stand with Ibn Khaldun and rely on him, although he is not one of the experts in this field. And truth demands that we go back, in every discipline, to those that master it, and ironclad knowledge belongs to Allah Most High and Exalted.”

Al-Kattani adds that tawatur was reported on the subject by al-Sakhawi in Fath al-Mughith from Abu al-Husayn al-Abirri al-Sijistani’s (d. 363) Sharh al-Risala, Manaqib al-Shafi`i, and Maghani al-Wafa bi Ma`ani al-Iktifa; also Abu al-`Ala’ Idris ibn Muhammad ibn Idris al-Husayni al-`Iraqi in his epistle on the topic; also al-Saffarayini in his Sharh `Aqidat al-Imam Ahmad; al-Shawkani in his epistle al-Tawdih fi Tawatur ma Ja'a fi al-Mahdi wal-Dajjal wal-Masih, and al-Haytami in the fatwa cited below. But if ignorance of Arabic, Fiqh, Usul, Qur’an, and Hadith never stopped a gifted news analyst from reconstructing the Shari`ah for his cringing devotees [ref. to Syed Qutb], why should it matter that Ibn Khaldun was never more than an average muqallid in any discussion of hadith authenticity?
Another non-argument of the Murabitun is that “we do not find this in the books of the Malikis” (for their knowledge now encompasses the books of the Malikis). Yet the famous renewer of the Maliki Madhhab Ahmad ibn `Ashir included belief in and expectation of the Mahdi among the necessary articles of Muslim belief in his poem summing up the creed of Islam! Yet it really would not matter at all if Imam Malik and the schools of Madina never mentioned al-Mahdi since the agreement of the Ummah is more important and more probative than the Fiqh of Madinah, and the Ummah concurs that belief in the Mahdi is part of the Islamic creed.
But the Mahdi hullabalo is just the tip of the iceberg. That Vadillo counts the number of times Shaykh Nazim mentions “Jesus” and “shaytan” in contrast with “Allah” and “Muhammad” under the rubric “Satanism” (p. 462) shows the suspiciously Gunonian pitch of his anti-Masonic fever and its phantasmagoric self-fulfilling prophecies. As for the Murabitun homily that “Muslims do not wait to establish Islam,” needless to say, it is a straw man over which no two rams butt heads, reminiscent of the anti-sufi pseudo-argument that Islam is against quietism and monasticism. The European and American Muslims that follow Shaykh Nazim hardly “wait to establish Islam” in their persons, homes, communities, and businesses.
To conclude on the issue of the Mahdi, the major Makkan Shafi`i faqih, hafiz, and Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Hajar al-Haytami in his fatwa titled al-Qawl al-Mukhtasar fi `Alamat al-Mahdi al-Muntazar (“The Brief Discourse on the Portents of the Awaited Mahdi”) said that denial of the Mahdi entails kufr:

It has been related that the Prophet, blessings and peace upon him, said: “Whoever denies belief in the Dajjal, has certainly committed disbelief (man kadhdhaba bil-dajjali fa-qad kafara), and whoever denies belief in the Mahdi, has certainly committed disbelief (wa-man kadhdhaba bil-mahdi fa-qad kafara)."

Abu Bakr al-Askafi narrated it in Fawa’id al-Akhbar, and also [the hadith master] Abu al-Qasim al-Suhayli in his book Sharh al-Sirah.
The hadith mentioned above is also narrated by the hadith Master Ibn Nasir al-Din al-Dimashqi in his book `Uqud al-Durar fi `Ulum al-Athar (“The Pearl Necklaces in the Science of Reports”) p. 156 and the hadith Master Jalal al-Din al-Suyuti in his treatise al-`Arf al-Wardi fi Akhbar al-Mahdi (“The Rose Fragrance Concerning the Reports on al-Mahdi) in his collected fatwas entitled al-Hawi lil-Fatawa (2:161). This is the belief of Ahl al-Sunnah, this is the belief of the Sufis, this is the belief of our Shaykhs, and this is the belief of the true Shadhili Shaykhs, whose path both al-Suyuti and al-Haytami followed. Whoever differs with them is a liar and an innovator.

"Vehement hatred has already appeared from their mouths"


Although Vadillo does denounce a few unsavory characters, by and large he leaves the Qur’anic heresies alone, such as the neo-Mu`tazilis of the West and the Muslim world, the ... the Omar Bakris, the “Qur’an-only” yahoos, the Ahmadis/Qadyanis, the pseudo-feminists and other Sunnah-negating re-formers of our hermeneutics. Instead he unleashes a birdbrained “free-mason!” Macarthyism on Lings, al-Qaradawi, and others not nearly one tenth as masonic and controversial as the Murabitun themselves. From their chief kook to their academic errand-boys and menial translators, they have mumbled against the Four Imams and would dispense with the Hadith of the Prophet altogether if they could. “We follow Malik,” one of them had the gall to say, “only insofar as he adheres to the `amal of Madina”! If they were more than fledgling zindiqs they would attack the Qur’an also for mentioning `Isa, upon him blessings and peace, and shaytan too much for their taste.
However, it is the Murabitun’s hatred of Shaykh Nazim al-Haqqani and his Naqshbandi Tariqah that gives them away. Shaytan hated Adam, the father of (the brotherhood of) mankind, not because of Adam’s own person, but because out of his progeny would come forth our Liege-Lord Muhammad who is the first and last Advocate of mankind, the Seal of Prophets and Master of creation, upon him blessings and peace. It follows that shaytan also hates the Prophet’s Inheritor in every era. In our time, Shaykh Nazim and his friends are the salt of the earth and the best of creation without doubt; a faith I hope to claim as a reason for salvation on the Day of Resurrection. If there is a greater living representative of the Message of Muhammad, the Message of Jesus, and the Message of Moses on the face of the earth, inform us! But what, Nimrod and Pharaoh ask, is a Friend of Allah? Then they proceed to demonize right and truth.

How aptly did a reporter describe the Murabitun as “possibly the only religious sect in history whose defining article of faith is a financial theory”! (“In Gold We Trust,” Wired Magazine January 2002). Then they hiss at Shaykh Nazim because Sharifs, Sultans, Kings and Princes take his hand while all they get is Qaddafists, Kemalists and Mahatir Mohammad. Shaykh Mustafa ibn Sidi Ibrahim Basir of Banu `Iyat said they came to the Maghrib and tried to enlist him into their project of an international organization of some sort (their “World Murabitun Movement”), presided by The Shaykh of Instruction of the Age. Sidi Mustafa told me he would have nothing to do with it and told them: You are all welcome to the Zawiya, as for dunya we are not interested in it.
The Murabitun also reject Lings’ superlative biography of Sidi Ahmad ibn `Aliwa, A Sufi Saint of the Twentieth Century although they claim that Ibn `Aliwa’s successor, the Darqawi Moroccan Shaykh Muhammad ibn al-Habib, made Dallas a caliph, but those I spoke with during my 1420-1421 stay in Morocco denied this. (Sidi Basir told me that the Khalifa of Sidi Ibn al-Habib in the Darqawi Tariqa was Shaykh Muhammad al-Qurshi, whose zawiya is in Morocco.) They also claim Ibn al-Habib put Dallas in charge of teaching Islam in the West but this also is untrue; rather, former travel associates of Dallas said Shaykh Muhammad ibn al-Habib actually predicted that a Shaykh would be coming to the West for that purpose, which is Shaykh Nazim. Both aspects are borne out by fact regardless of any prediction: neither does Dallas teach Islam for all the Sufi-then-Maliki panoply, nor does there remain the shadow of a doubt that Shaykh Nazim, in 20 years’ work, single-handedly converted to traditional Islam the greatest number of people in Western da`wah history.

False titles

As for the impudent titles they now claim for Ian Dallas: The Shaykh of Instruction of the Age, the Recoveror of True Islamic Fiqh, and Reviver of the Sunnah etc.: such claims were predicted by the Holy Prophet, upon him blessings and peace, in his narrations about the unabashed and unchallenged reign of ignorance at the end of time. Sweet ignorance! Can even a child accept to dispense with wudu for six months and go on a tayammum-only spree although water is plentiful, as that man’s followers did in Norwich? Is this not the doing of a dajjal stealing the Salat of the Muslims by playing with the Law? Hasbuna Allah.

The Murabitun hate to hear about Mahdi and `Isa, upon our Prophet and them blessings and peace, because they do not expect any more good to come from the Heaven. They are materialists dying for scraps of worldly power. This is the wont of every latter-day Muslim brotherhood, party, and organization without exception and the only salvation from this mortal fall is connection to the Awliya through an uninterrupted and authentic chain of transmission. Hence they attack Shaykh Nazim’s heavenly inspiration, his heavenly words, his heavenly ways. They attack in Shaykh Nazim the one scourge of materialism in our time and the declared enemy of dajjals of any kind.
About their leader


Is it not time they knew what Shaykh Nazim said of their leader? A trustworthy Spanish murid of nine years told me that he was Shaykh Nazim’s driver on a 3,000-mile tour of Spain in 1997 during which the Shaykh was asked about Abd al-Qadir al-Murabit and he replied: “A shaytan who was given a bowl of blessed water and used it up to gather some people and start a group. He was shown a light but it was only a battery light. When the water finished he became envious of those that were given a spring.”
Another murid from Germany told me that at the time Dallas, pretexting the need to study fiqh and spread the Murabitun ideology of superiority of what he imagined to be the Maliki School, renounced the Darqawi Adab to which he had been pledged before and his followers deserted him en masse (including his associate Shaykh Fadlallah Haeri), some for their graves, some for mental institutions, and some for Tariqah, Shaykh Nazim said: “He is like someone who took to sea with his group then, when a storm threatened the boat, admitted that he was not a captain and that the boat was unfit for the open sea; then he had himself lifted into a rescue helicopter and left his group to save themselves.”
And now, Umar Ibrahim Vadillo’s Esoteric Deviation in Islam , a book that makes its rizq the revilement of the Awliya and, worse, panders to a Final Solution ethos passing for Islamic reform! - a tract of misguidance as dark as its pitch-black and devil-red cover. What more perverse victory for shaytan than to produce the straight-faced idiocy that dubs a Spanish Petit Inquisitor “The distinguished Islamic Scholar and Author” of “a gem of a book,” “the essential book on Islamic Groupings over the last century,” his professor “The Shaykh of Instruction of the Age, Recoveror of True Islamic Fiqh, Reviver of the Sunnah” (who cannot tie his own shoes in Arabic) and, in contrast, cries Sycophancy if one rightly names Shaykh Nazim “the unequalled spiritual master of our time, the Mujaddid, Muhyi as-Sunnah, Mu’ayyid al-Haqq, Sultan al-Awliya of the 21st Century”? The same Shaykh Nazim that brought tens of thousands of Westerners to Islam by the grace of Allah and was being arraigned in Republican Turkey for raising the adhan in Arabic long before Umar Ibrahim Whippersnapper was of age to buy the havanas he smokes today in his pin-stripe suit at the corridas The Shaykh of Instruction of the Age encourages him to attend!
One of the hadiths in which the Prophet mentions the Mahdi, upon them blessings and peace, stresses that the earth will be saturated (muli’at) with injustice before it becomes saturated with justice again. This wording is of the utmost importance for the defenders of truth in our time. They must know that there is not one corner of purity or goodness on the face of the earth except the minions of fitnah must buzz over it and deposit on it, like houseflies, some dirt they diligently carry from wherever flies carry dirt. May Allah bring to pass the time when all this is swept away where it belongs. May He use us toward that day as defenders of truth by the blessing of the Most Honored One in His Divine Presence, just as in His wisdom He lets others do their worst as propagators of falsehood. "Say: Shall We inform you who will be the greatest losers by their works? Those whose effort goes astray in the life of the world, and yet they reckon that they do good work" (18:103-104).
May Allah support Shaykh Nazim the Hope of our time ever more, grant him ever higher stations here and hereafter by the Baraka of the Owner of the Flag of Glory our Liege-Lord Muhammad, upon him and his Family and Companions all blessings and peace and the Baraka of the Silsila of the Most Distinguished Tariqatu Naqshbandiyya, and turn over to him the good deeds of his enviers! May Allah fell the rotten dead tree of Kharijism and bigotry that has so damaged us East and West, inside and outside Islam! May He inspire Umar Vadillo to take back that sinister work of his before the grave, his teacher to check invidia at the door of repentance if he intends to abandon Jahiliyya once and for all, and both of them to surrender to the leadership of the true Friends of Allah just as their betters did and do! The day of Dallas’s right honor and golden gain shall come when Allah softens his heart and sweetens his disposition to make him curtsey no longer to the Sukarnos of the world but to his real guide insha Allah: Shaykh Nazim - and serve him tea and Scottish shortbread.
 
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pathseeker

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Part XIV. The Fifth Proof That the Sunna is Probative: It is Unfeasible to Act Solely On the Basis of the Qur'an

It is impossible for any human being upon whom divine revelation did not descend with Allah's support, to understand the Shari`a, its details, and its rulings autonomously, from the Qur'an alone. It is therefore inevitable that one must look into the Sunna which was revealed together with the Qur'an and the Sunna which the Prophet -- Allah bless and greet him -- inferred from striving to understand the Qur'an, in which inferring he received divine confirmation.

One must therefore avail oneself of the Sunna in order to understand Allah Almighty's meaning and infer the details of rulings from the Qur'an, because the Sunna is the only path to achieve that objective. If the Sunna were not probative then this would not be the case. Nor would it be correct for any of those who exert scholarly striving to look into the Sunna and avail himself of it toward that end. As a result no-one would have understood what exactly they are held responsible for, the rulings would have been disregarded, the legal liabilities (al-takalif) would have been cancelled and in vain, all of which is absurd and impossible on the part of Allah Almighty and Exalted.

What makes it clear that it is impossible for a mujtahid to rely solely on the Qur'an to extract what we mentioned, is that because the Qur'an has reached such a level of miraculous inimitability (i`jaz) and the farthest limit of eloquence and economy, it contains many secondary meanings, treasure troves and secrets, many of which are known only to Him Whose Speech this is, and to him upon whom their exposition was descended and revealed -- Allah bless and greet him --.
Al-Bukhari narrated in this respect that when the Prophet -- Allah bless and greet him -- was asked about the status of donkeys (i.e. in comparison with horses in merit, especially in jihad), he replied: "Nothing was revealed to me concerning them except this all-encompassing, peerless verse: {And whoso does good an atom's weight will see it then, and whoso does ill an atom's weight will see it then** (99:7-8)."1 Consider how the Prophet -- Allah bless and greet him -- took the ruling concerning donkeys from that verse, and is anyone else able to do this?2
Furthermore, the Qur'an contains stipulations that are summarized (mujmala) and others that are complex (mushkila). It is therefore necessary, in order to put them into practice, to have an explanation that expounds, clarifies, interprets, and explains them. It is further necessary that such an exposition come from Allah Almighty and Exalted because it is He that has thrust responsibility upon His servants and therefore He knows what is being meant before anyone else. And this explanation is the Sunna that revelation brought or upon which Allah Almighty and Exalted confirmed His Prophet -- Allah bless and greet him -- if it originated in elucidatory striving on his part. Hence Allah Almighty and Exalted said {And We have revealed unto you the Remembrance that you may explain to mankind that which has been revealed for them** (16:44).
Following are some examples for the unfeasibility of acting solely on the basis of the Qur'an.
- Allah Almighty and Exalted said: {Establish prayer (salat) and pay the poor-due (zakat)** (2:43, 2:83, 2:110, 4:77, 24:56, 73:20). From this it is understood that both prayer and the poor-due are obligatory. However: what is the exact description of this obligatory prayer? What is its modality? What is its timing? What is its quantity and number? Upon whom is it obligatory? How many times is it obligatory in one's lifetime? And what is the exact description of this poor-due? Upon whom is it obligatory? Concerning what kind of property is it obligatory? What is its amount? And what is the condition of its obligatoriness?
- Allah Almighty and Exalted also said: {So (give) glory to Allah when you enter the night and when you enter the morning** (30:17). We understand from this the obligatoriness of giving glory and its time in general terms. However: what is meant by such glorification? Is it the same as prayer in His saying {Establish prayer**? Or is it something else, such as saying: subhan Allah?
- Allah Almighty and Exalted also said: {Recite, then, of the Quran that which is easy for you** (73:20). We understand from this the obligatoriness of reciting whatever is easy for us of the Qur'an. However: what is meant by such recitation? Is it the same as prayer? Or is it mere recitation of the Qur'an? If it means prayer, is one rak`a sufficient? And if one rak`a is sufficient, what are the actions which such a rak`a consists in?
- Allah Almighty and Exalted also said: {O you who believe! Bow down and prostrate yourselves** (22:77). We understand from this the obligatoriness of bowing down and prostrating. However, what is their exact modality and what is precisely meant by such bowing and prostrating? Are they the same as prayer or something else? If what is meant by them is prayer, then is the number of bows and the number of prostrations in it equal? Or is one superior to the other?
- Allah Almighty and Exalted also said: {Lo! Allah and His angels make salat upon the Prophet. O you who believe! Make salat upon him and salute him with a worthy salutation** (33:56). Is what is meant by this salat the very same as the prayer which Allah Almighty and Exalted made obligatory upon us when He said {Establish prayer**? Or is it something different? And in what does it consist when it proceeds from Allah and His angels as opposed to when it proceeds from us?
- Allah Almighty and Exalted also said: {They who hoard up gold and silver and spend it not in the way of Allah, unto them give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom** (9:34). We understand from this the prohibition of hoarding up gold and silver and not spending it. However: what is meant by "spending" here as opposed to hoarding up?3 Does it consist in spending the entire amount of one's property as the Companions understood it when the verse was revealed? Or does it mean spending part of one's property? And what is the precise amount of that part?
- Allah Almighty and Exalted also said: {Perform to completion the pilgrimage (al-hajj) and the visit (al-`umra) (to Mecca) for Allah** (2:196). We understand from this the obligatoriness of performing to completion hajj and `umra. However: what is meant by hajj and `umra? Does it consist in the totality of what the Arabs used to do in the Time of Ignorance or in something else and what would that be? And how many times are they obligatory in one's lifetime?
- Allah Almighty and Exalted also said: {Those who believe and obscure not their belief by wrong-doing, theirs is safety and they are rightly-guided** (6:82). What is meant here by the wrong-doing the preclusion of which Allah made a precondition for the obtainment of safety and right guidance? Does it mean the totality of the various types of wrong-doing as the Companions understood it, or only a specific type, and what would the latter be?4
- Allah Almighty and Exalted also said: {As for the thief, both male and female, cut off their hands/arms. It is the reward of their own deeds, an exemplary punishment from Allah. Allah is Mighty, Wise**5:38). We understand by this the obligation of severing the hand/arm (yad) of each of them. However: what is the nature of the theft that makes such cutting off obligatory? Is it what is meant lexically by theft under in all its varieties or something else? And if the latter, then what exactly? And what are its conditions? What is the rate of the amount of property the stealing of which makes cutting off the hand or arm obligatory? And what is the modality of this cutting off? Is the limb cut off from the shoulder-joint? From the wrist? From the elbow? Is the cutting off repeated upon recidivism?
There are many such examples in the Glorious Qur'an. Try to empty your mind from all that the Sunna explicitly provided in the way of explanation pertaining to the above verses as well as what the jurists mentioned on the basis of the Sunna through analogy (qiyas) and other methods of elucidating the Sunna. Then see if anyone is able to answer to a single question among those we have mentioned above, and other questions of the same type. And supposing one is able to answer to some of the questions about these necessary issues, can he answer them all? And if no-one can do that, can we then fulfill those responsibilities thrust upon us? And is it rationally conceivable that Allah Sublime and Exalted should task us with responsibilities which He has concealed from us, and made us blind as to what He meant by them? Would it not be the height of absurdity and nonsense to claim that such as this issued from Allah Almighty?
All of the above shows that Allah Almighty and Exalted did not task us with these responsibilities which He listed in broad terms in His Book - in the full knowledge that our minds fall short of understanding His meaning - except that He first put in place an elucidator and patent explainer in charge of clarifying all these matters. This is Allah's Messenger -- Allah bless and greet him --. And He did this by means of His revelation and His support.
The following excerpt from Ibn Hazm on the principles of the Law illustrates what we just said:
Where in the Qur'an does it state that:
- Zuhr prayer is four rak`as?
- Maghrib is three rak`as?
- Ruku` is done in such-and-such a way?
- Sujud is done in such-and-such a way?
- Qur'anic recitation in the prayer is done in such-and-such a way?
- Salam is given at the conclusion of prayer, in such-and-such a way?
- What one must avoid when fasting?
- The modality of zakat for gold and silver, sheep, camels, and cattle?
- The determination of the zakatable capitals and amount of their zakat?
- The rituals of hajj from the time one stands in `Arafa?
- The modality of prayer at `Arafa and Muzdalifa?
- The modality of stoning at the three jimar in Mina?
- The description of the pilgrim's sacralized state (ihram)?
- What must be avoided in ihram?
- The amputation of the thief's limb?
- The definition of the breast-feeding that creates non-marriageable kinship?5
- What prepared foods are prohibited to eat?
- The description and definition of butchering and sacrificial slaughters?
- The modalities of penal rulings (ahkam al-hudud)?
- The description of the enactment of divorce?
- The rulings that pertain to selling?
- The exposition of usurious transactions (al-riba)?
- The modalities of juristic verdicts and appeals?
- Those of solemn oaths, water-dams (al-ahbas), life tenancy resulting in ownership of the tenant's heirs (al-`umra), collection of legal alms (al-sadaqat), and all the other topics of the Law?
We find in the Qur'an only comprehensive clauses (jumal). If we were left with them, we would not know how to apply them. In all this, the reference is none other than what is transmitted from the Prophet -- Allah bless and greet him --. It is the same with scholarly Consensus (al-ijma`) for the latter formed over but a few matters which we all gathered in a single book.6 ... Therefore, it is indispensable to refer back to the hadith. And if someone were to say: "We do not take except what we find in the Qur'an," that person would be an apostate by consensus of the Community, and would not thereby be obligated to pray more than one rak`a between the going down of the sun and the dark of night, and another one at dawn [cf. 17:78]. For this is the least that has been called salat, and there is no limit (hadd) set for the most in that chapter. One who follows such a position is an idolatrous disbeliever (kafir mushrik) whose life and property are licit. The only ones to go that path are some of the extremist Rafidis upon whose apostasy consensus has formed in the Community. And success is from Allah Almighty and Exalted. Now, should someone follow only what the entire Community has agreed upon and nothing else, leaving all that they differed about with regard to what the texts mention: such a person is a transgressor (fasiq) by consensus of the Community. These two preliminaries make it obligatory to accept what is transmitted.7
We have already cited several hadiths in illustration of the principles in this chapter.8 Below we also quote some of the countless Companion-reports and reports of the Salaf to that effect.
- Abu Bakr - Allah be well-pleased with him - said: "What earth could carry me, what heaven could shade me if I spoke about a single verse of Allah's Book according to my mere opinion or to say something of which I have no knowledge?"9
- `Umar - Allah be well-pleased with him - said: "I only fear for you two matters: A man that interprets the Qur'an in a way other than the interpretation in which it is meant, and a man who vies with his brother in acquiring property."10
- He also said: "I do not fear for this Community a believer whose faith holds him in check nor a dissolute man whose corruption is evident. However, I fear for it a man who read the Qur'an until he slickened his tongue with it, then he misconstrues it."11
- He also said: "Beware of those who put forward opinions (ashab al-ra'i) for they are the enemies of the Sunna. They have despaired of memorizing the Prophet's -- Allah bless and greet him -- narrations and have resorted to forwarding opinions. As a result they went astray and misguided others."12
- He also said: "Certain people shall appear who will dispute with you concerning the Qur'an: reply to them with the Sunan. For the possessors of the Sunan are the most knowledgeable about Allah's Book."13 `Ali - Allah be well-pleased with him - said the same thing to Ibn `Abbas - Allah be well-pleased with him - when he sent him to debate the Khawarij: "Do not argue with them by means of the Qur'an for it bears many interpretations (innahu dhu wujuh), but argue with them by means of the Sunna."14 Another version states that Ibn `Abbas said: "O Commander of the believers, I know the Qur'an better than them for it is in our homes that it was revealed," whereupon `Ali replied: "You said the truth, but the Qur'an is comprehensive in its phrasing (jammal) and bears many interpretations. You will say [it means one thing] and they will say [it means another]. Rather, argue with them by means of the Sunan, for they will not be able to find an escape from them."15
- Ibn Mas`ud - Allah be well-pleased with him - said: "You must hold fast to knowledge [= Sunna] before it is taken away. This taking away consists in the departure of those who possess it. None of you knows when he shall sorely need one of them, or needs what he has. Verily you shall encounter a people who claim that they are calling you unto Allah's Book when in fact they have tossed it behind their backs. So hold fast to knowledge, beware of innovating (al-tabaddu`), beware of excessive contention (al-tanattu`), and beware of deep involvement (al-ta`ammuq). Hold fast to the ancient (al-`atiq)."16
- Mu`awiya - Allah be well-pleased with him - said: "Truly the most seductive misguidance (aghra al-dalala) is for a man to read the Qur'an without understanding it, then he teaches it to boys, slaves, women, and slave-girls who then take to arguing with the people of knowledge over it."17
- `Imran ibn Husayn - Allah be well-pleased with him - said: "The Qur'an was revealed and Allah's Messenger instituted the Sunan." Then he said: "Follow us [Companions] or, by Allah! if you do not, you shall go astray."18
- While `Imran ibn Husayn was relating hadiths from the Prophet -- Allah bless and greet him --, a man said to him: "O Abu Nujayd! Talk to us from the Qur'an." Whereupon `Imran said to him: "You and your friends all read the Qur'an, so can you tell me about the salat, what it contains specifically and what its features are? Can you tell me in what consists the zakat for gold? camels? cows? the different types of goods? No. But I witnessed it, and you were not there." Then he said: "Allah's Messenger -- Allah bless and greet him -- imposed upon us such-and-such in the zakat etc." The man said: "You have given me new life, may Allah Almighty and Exalted give you new life also!" Al-Hasan said: "This man did not die before he had become one of the authoritative jurists of the Muslims."19
- Another version states: The people were rehearsing the narrations of hadith whereupon a man stood and said: "Enough of that, bring us something from Allah's Book!" `Imran ibn Husayn became angry and said: "You are an idiot! Allah Almighty and Exalted mentioned zakat in His Book; where then, is it mentioned that it consists in 5 parts out of every two hundred? Allah Almighty and Exalted mentioned salat in His Book; where then is it mentioned that zuhr consists in four rak`as?" Then he mentioned all the other prayers. He continued: "Allah mentioned circumambulation in His Book; where then did He say that tawaf consists in seven circumambulations? And where did He say that coursing between Safa and Marwa is sevenfold? We rule according to what is there [i.e. in the Qur'an], but the Sunna explains it."20
- A third version states: A man questioned the Companion `Imran ibn Husayn. When the latter answered him, the man said: "Talk to us from Allah's Book and do not talk to us from other than it." `Imran said: "You are an idiot! Can you find it in Allah's Book that zuhr is four rak`as in which one does not recite loud?" He went on to enumerate prayer, zakat, and other than that, then said: "Do you find all these explained in Allah's Book? Rather, Allah's Book has ruled all this, and the Sunna explains it."21
- Similarly one of `Imran's students, Mutarrif ibn `Abd Allah ibn al-Shikhkhir replied: "By Allah! We certainly do not seek a substitute for the Qur'an, but only him who is more knowledgeable of the Qur'an than we."22 Meaning: Allah's Messenger -- Allah bless and greet him --.
- A man asked `Abd Allah ibn `Umar - Allah be well-pleased with him -: "O Abu `Abd al-Rahman, we find the prayer of fear (salat al-khawf) and the prayer of residence (salat al-hadar) in the Qur'an, but we do not find the prayer of travel (salat al-safar)." Ibn `Umar replied: "Dear cousin: Allah Almighty and Exalted sent forth Muhammad -- Allah bless and greet him -- and we knew nothing. So we only do whatever we saw him do."23
- Similarly Jabir ibn `Abd Allah - Allah be well-pleased with him - said: "Allah's Messenger -- Allah bless and greet him -- was among us while the Qur'an was being revealed to him and he knew its explanation. Whatever he put into practice, we put into practice."24
- `Abd Allah ibn `Umar met Jabir ibn Zayd in tawaf and told him: "O Abu al-Sha`tha', you are one of the fuqaha' of Basra: therefore do not give any response except with the speaking Qur'an (biqur'anin natiqin) or a Sunna that has precedent (sunnatin madiya). If you do otherwise, you have perished and caused others to perish."25
- Hudhayfa ibn al-Yaman - Allah be well-pleased with him - said: "Only three types of persons give fatwas to people: A man who is either an Imam or a governor, and a man who can tell the abrogating verses of the Qur'an from the abrogated." They asked: "Who is such a man?" He said: "`Umar ibn al-Khattab. Other than those three types, there are only overreaching fools."26
- Imam al-Shafi`i said: "Most of what is abrogated in Allah's Book is known only through the indications of the Sunan of Allah's Messenger -- Allah bless and greet him --."27
- Another Tabi`i, Sa`id ibn Jubayr, was narrating a hadith of the Prophet -- Allah bless and greet him -- whereupon a man said: "There is something opposite to this in Allah's Book." Sa`id replied: "Do not, when I narrate to you from Allah's Messenger -- Allah bless and greet him --, claim a contradiction with Allah's Book. For Allah's Messenger -- Allah bless and greet him -- was more knowledgeable of Allah's Book than you."28
- Another Tabi`i, Hassan ibn `Atiyya, said: "Revelation would descend upon Allah's Messenger -- Allah bless and greet him -- and Gibril - peace upon him - would also tell him the Sunna that expounded it."29
- Another Tabi`i, Maymun ibn Mahran, said: "Truly this Qur'an has been torn to tatters (akhlaqa) in many breasts. Therefore, learn the hadiths that are beside it. Truly there are some who seek this knowledge as a commodity for worldly gain, while others learn it for self-display, and others to be pointed at. But the best of them are those who learn it in order to obey Allah by means of it."30 Ibn `Abd al-Barr said: "By the words `this Qur'an has been torn to tatters' he means - and Allah knows best - that its interpretation has been torn to tatters except that by means of the narrations of the practicing Salaf. So its interpretation is limited to whatever sound hadiths are narrated from them and excludes what people come up with in their minds or dispute about in their opinions, in the fashion of those who follow their lusts."31
- The Tabi`i Abu Wa'il Shaqiq ibn Salama said: "Do not sit with those who say: `But what if' (ara'ayt)." Similarly the Tabi`i al-Sha`bi said: "There is no expression more hateful to me than `But what if'" and "Those that came before you perished because of `But what if'."32
- The Tabi`i Ayyub al-Sikhtyani said: "If you tell someone of a Sunna and he then says: `Never mind this, tell us from the Qur'an': Know that that person is gone astray (dall)."33
- Al-Sha`bi said: "Those before you perished only when their paths multiplied and they diverged from the main road, leaving the transmitted reports (al-athar) behind. They went astray and misguided others."34
- `Abd Allah ibn al-Mubarak said: "Let your reliance be upon transmitted reports, and use, for personal opinion, only whatever the hadith expounds to you."35
- One of Hassan ibn `Atiyya's students, Imam al-Awza`i, similarly said: "The Book stands more in need of the Sunna than the Sunna stands in need of the Book."36 Ibn `Abd al-Barr explains: "He means that the Sunna presupposes the Book and expounds its purport, and this is the meaning of the saying of the scholars: `The Book has left a spot or the Sunna, and the Sunna has left a spot for [qualified] opinion.'"37
- Another Tabi`i, Yahya ibn Abi Kathir, said: "The Sunna adjudicates on (qadiya `ala) the Qur'an, but not the Qur'an on the Sunna." Ahmad ibn Hanbal said: "I do not go so far as to say that the Sunna adjudicates on the Qur'an, but the Sunna expounds the Book and explains it."38
- `Abd al-Rahman ibn Mahdi said: "A man stands more in need of the Sunna than he stands in need of food and drink."39
- Imam Ahmad further said: "The Sunna in our definition consists in the reports transmitted from Allah's Messenger -- Allah bless and greet him --, and the Sunna is the commentary (tafsir) of the Qur'an and contains its directives (dala'il)."40
Imam Ahmad further said: "Allah revealed His Book to His Prophet -- Allah bless and greet him -- and made the latter the indicator (al-dall) of both its outward meaning (zahiruhu) and its hidden meaning (batinuhu); its specific meaning (khassuhu) and its general meaning (`ammuhu); its abrogating verses (nasikhuhu) and its abrogated ones (mansukhuhu); and all that the Book purports. So Allah's Messenger -- Allah bless and greet him -- was the expounder (al-mu`abbir) of Allah's Book, indicating its meanings. His Companions witnessed him in this act, the very same men whom Allah Almighty and Exalted was content to choose as his Companions and elect for him. They transmitted all this from him. Therefore, they were, of all people, the most knowledgeable of Allah's Messenger -- Allah bless and greet him -- and of what Allah Almighty and Exalted meant by His Book, by witnessing him and watching firsthand that which the Book addressed. Therefore, they were the expounders of all this after Allah's Messenger -- Allah bless and greet him --. Thus did Jabir say: "Allah's Messenger -- Allah bless and greet him -- was among us while the Qur'an was being revealed to him and he knew its explanation. Whatever he put into practice, we put into practice."41
NOTES
1Narrated from Abu Hurayra by al-Bukhari, Muslim, al-Nasa'i, Ahmad, and Malik.

2The commentators said that this means that whatever end to which the donkeys are used for determines their legal status as instruments of good or evil. Ibn Hajar said in commentary upon this hadith: "It provides a firm affirmation for basing practice on the external senses of the general statement (al-`amal bizawahir al-`umum) and the binding nature of the latter until the proof of specificity (dalil al-takhsis) is pointed out. There is also in the hadith an indication of the difference between a specific ruling explicitly stipulated (al-hukm al-khass al-mansus) and a general ruling in external terms (al-`amm al-zahir), the latter being inferior to the former as an evidentiary proof."
3The Sunna reveals that is meant by the "spending" stipulated here is the zakat.
4The Sunna reveals that what is meant by "wrong-doing" here is shirk.
5The best detailed summation of this topic from the two perspectives of the legal rulings of the Four Schools and their evidences is Dr. Sa`d al-Mirsafi's Ahadith al-Rida` Hujjiyyatuha wa Fiqhuha ("The Hadiths of Breastfeeding: Their Probativeness and Jurisprudence") (Kuwait and Beirut: al-Manar and al-Rayyan, 1994).
6Maratib al-Ijma`, which Ibn Taymiyya critiqued in his Naqd Maratib al-Ijma`.
7Ibn Hazm, al-Ihkam fi Usul al-Ahkam (2:79-80).
8See earlier section of "The Probativeness of the Sunna."
9Narrated from Ibn Abi Mulayka and `A'isha by Ibn al-Qayyim in I`lam al-Muwaqqi`in (1:53-54, 1:82, 2:184) who declared it sound (sahih). Cf. Imam al-Shafi`i's similar remark: After al-Shafi'i narrated a hadith to a man who asked him about a certain matter the latter said: "Do you also say the same?" whereupon al-Shafi'i seemed jolted, his color changed, and he said: "Woe to you! What earth would carry me, what heaven would shade me if I narrated from Allah's Messenger -- Allah bless and greet him -- something but did not adhere to it? Yes, I adhere to it heart and soul! Yes, I adhere to it heart and soul!" Narrated by al-Hakim as cited by Ibn al-Qayyim in I'lam al-Muwaqqi'in (2:286).
10Narrated with a missing Tabi`i link from `Amr ibn Dinar by Ibn `Abd al-Barr in Jami` Bayan al-`Ilm (2:1202 #2364).
11Narrated from `Abd al-`Aziz ibn Abi Hazim by Ibn `Abd al-Barr in Jami` Bayan al-`Ilm (2:1204 #2368) with a weak chain as stated by al-Zuhayri.
12Narrated from `Amr ibn Hurayth by al-Daraqutni in his Sunan (4:146), al-Bayhaqi in al-Madkhal (p. 190), Ibn Hazm in al-Ihkam (6:213), and al-Lalika'i in Sharh Usul I`tiqad Ahl al-Sunna (1:123). See the definition of permissible ra'i by Ibn Hajar in Fath al-Bari (1959 ed. 13:189) and Ibn al-Qayyim in I`lam al-Muwaqqi`in (1:83) as well as al-Kawthari's Fiqh Ahl al-`Iraq and the introduction to al-Tahanawi's I`la' al-Sunan.
13Narrated by al-Darimi in his Sunan, al-Khatib in Tarikh Baghdad (14:286), and al-Lalika'i in Sharh Usul I`tiqad Ahl al-Sunna (1:123 [also from `Ali]).
14Narrated from `Ikrima by Ibn Sa`d according to al-Suyuti in al-Durr al-Manthur in his commentary on the verse (show us the straight path( (1:6).
15Ibid.
16Narrated with a mursal chain of sound narrators from Abu Qilaba - who did not meet Ibn Mas`ud as stated by al-Haythami in Majma` al-Zawa'id (1:126) - by al-Darimi, al-Azdi in his Jami` (11:252), Ibn Waddah in al-Bida` (#25), Muhammad ibn Nasr al-Marwazi in al-Sunna (p. 29-30), al-Lalika'i in Sharh Usul I`tiqad Ahl al-Sunna (1:87 #108), al-Tabarani in al-Kabir (9:170), and Ibn `Abd al-Barr in Jami` Bayan al-`Ilm (2:1202 #2363), the latter with a weak chain according to al-Zuhayri. Al-Darimi's chain is strengthened by al-Bayhaqi's uninterrupted chain to Ibn Mas`ud from the trustworthy Tabi`i `A'idh Allah ibn `Abd Allah in al-Madkhal (p. 272).
17Narrated by Ibn `Abd al-Barr in Jami` Bayan al-`Ilm (2:1203 #2365) with a chain containing an unknown narrator.
18Narrated by Ahmad with a weak chain because of `Ali ibn Zayd - although al-Tirmidhi considers him truthful (saduq).
19Narrated from al-Hasan al-Basri by Abu Dawud in his Sunan with a chain declared sound by Ibn Hajar in Lisan al-Mizan (1:3) and by al-Hakim (1:109-110) with a sound chain as confirmed by al-Dhahabi. Cf. al-Suyuti, Miftah al-Janna (p. 73 #131, p. 23-25 #23).
20Narrated by Abu Nadra by Ibn al-Mubarak in al-Zuhd (p. 23).
21Narrated from Abu Nadra by Ibn al-Mubarak in his Musnad (p. 143), al-Ajurri in al-Shari`a (p. 51), and Ibn `Abd al-Barr in Jami` Bayan al-`Ilm (2:1192 #2348), where it is declared authentic by al-Zuhayri.
22Narrated by Ibn `Abd al-Barr in Jami` Bayan al-`Ilm (2:1193 #2349) with a sound chain according to al-Zuhayri.
23A sound narration from Ibn Shihab by al-Nasa'i, Ibn Majah, Ahmad, and Malik.
24Narrated from Muhammad al-Baqir as part of a long hadith by Muslim, Abu Dawud, and Ahmad.
25Narrated from Jabir ibn Zayd by al-Darimi in his Sunan.
26Narrated from Muhammad ibn Sirin by al-Darimi in his Sunan with a chain of sound narrators.
27Al-Shafi`i, al-Risala (p. 222).
28Narrated from Ya`la ibn Hakim by al-Darimi with a chain of sound narrators.

29Narrated from al-Awza`i by al-Darimi, Abu Dawud in al-Marasil (p. 361 #18490), Muhammad ibn Nasr al-Marwazi in al-Sunna (p. 28), al-Lalika'i in Sharh Usul I`tiqad Ahl al-Sunna (1:83), and Ibn `Abd al-Barr in his Jami` (2:1193 #2350) and it is a sound narration according to Ibn Hajar in Fath al-Bari (13:291) and al-Zuhayri.
30Narrated by Abu Nu`aym in the Hilya (1985 ed. 4:84) and Ibn `Abd al-Barr in Jami` Bayan al-`Ilm (2:1203 #2366) with a fair chain according to al-Zuhayri.
31Ibn `Abd al-Barr, Jami` Bayan al-`Ilm (2:1203).
32Narrated respectively from al-Zabarqan al-Sarraj, Ibn Abi Khalid, and Dawud ibn Abi Hind by Ibn `Abd al-Barr in Jami` Bayan al-`Ilm (2:1076-1077 #2094, #2095, and #2097) with one fair chain and two sound ones according to al-Zuhayri.
33Narrated from Makhlad ibn al-Husayn by al-Hakim in Ma`rifa `Ulum al-Hadith (p. 65) and from al-Awza`i by al-Khatib in al-Kifaya (Madina ed. p. 15).
34Narrated from al-Hasan ibn Wasil by Ibn `Abd al-Barr in Jami` Bayan al-`Ilm (2:1050 #2026).
35Narrated from `Abdan ibn `Uthman by Ibn `Abd al-Barr in Jami` Bayan al-`Ilm (2:1050 #2023) with a sound chain according to al-Zuhayri.
36Narrated by Ibn `Abd al-Barr in his Jami` (2:1193 #2350) and it is sound according to al-Zuhayri. Ibn `Abd al-Barr also cites it (2:1194 #2352) as narrated by al-Awza`i from Makhul.
37Ibn `Abd al-Barr, Jami` Bayan al-`Ilm (2:1194).
38Narrated respectively from al-Awza`i and al-Fadl ibn Zyad by Ibn `Abd al-Barr in Jami` Bayan al-`Ilm (2:1194 #2353-2354).
39Narrated from `Ali ibn al-Madini by al-Khatib in Tarikh Baghdad (2:187) and al-Kifaya (Madina ed. p. 15).
40Narrated from `Abdous ibn Malik al-`Attar by al-Lalika'i in Sharh Usul (1:156).
41In Ibn al-Qayyim, I`lam al-Muwaqqi`in (1973 ed. 2:290-291). For Jabir's hadith see above, n. 24.
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alphapaki

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@babadeena He is yet failed to prove his criteria of rejecting a belief or practice which is mentioned in Hadeeth but not available in Quran Majeed. Thread should be created before when first statement was given "Where Mahdi is defined in Quran", any how its never too late.

Hadeeth are integral source of Shariaht. Although my earl question not replied in the light of Quran and Hadeeth here is another example.
Are men allowed to marry real Aunt (پھوپھی،خاله) and her real Neisse (بھتیجی، بھانجی ) simultaneously? if No what is the source of this Law?


Im sorry but you [MENTION=6134]atensari[/MENTION] failed to understand us thoroughly and thoroughly. Try to put your feet in our shoes...
 

WatanDost

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
@babadeena

He is denying there is know Imam Mahdi coming or such personalty... There is no Imam Mahdi; its about future, Right!

He thinks it was Late Umer RA, at that time... You know what is meaning of Mahdi.


I am Talking about MUHAMMAD bin ABDULLAH I M A M MEHDI AS
And GHAMDI THE LIAR is DENYING the SAME ONE.
"TUMHARA IMAM TUM HI MAI SAI HO GA" Said MUHAMMAD SAW

And i am not TALKING about MEHDI the REFORMER ok
So keep your QADIYANI Sort of IDEALOGY and explaination with you.
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Im sorry but you @atensari failed to understand us thoroughly and thoroughly. Try to put your feet in our shoes...

I believe you people are failed to defend and prove your thoughts an abstract ideology "We don't accept hadeeth which is not supported by Quran".
 
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pathseeker

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[h=1]AHMADIYYA'S POINT OF VIEW
TAKEN FROM AL-ISLAM :THEIR OFFICIAL WEBSITE

Answer to question about Imam Mahdi[/h]
The following is part of a question answered by Hadhrat Khalifatul Masih IV, the present Head of the Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam, at the London Mosque, during a question and answer session some time ago.



All Muslims believe that the Holy Quran is one and complete without doubt. The Traditions of the Holy Prophet of Islam (SAW) are final and both the Holy Quran and the Traditions are to continue as the Word to be Accepted, as the Word to be believed and as the Word to be followed till the end of the time. Yet, our Holy Prophet despite this knowledge that the book is complete and that he is the final prophet till the end of time, himself prophesied that a time will come when Imam Mahdi would appear from Allah and be raised by Allah. Let's now ask a very sincere question -

What was the need for Imam Mahdi and why should Imam Mahdi be acceptable to us, when the Holy Quran is complete; the traditions are there and the contents of these books are final?
Yet according to the Holy Prophet, Muslims need Imam Mahdi and are waiting for Imam Mahdi. Why do we need Imam Mahdi, and why are we waiting for Him, and what will the status of Imam Mahdi be? I'm sure you never thought of that. If you should think of it now, you will be surprised that Muslims belief and Ahmadis beliefs are exactly the same. Not an iota of difference can be proved between our two beliefs.

All Muslims believe that Imam Mahdi is going to be appointed by Allah, and is not going to be elected by the Muslims. There should not be a single Muslim who believes that Imam Mahdi will not be appointed by Allah, but will be elected by the masses. If any Muslim claims this, all the ulema of the world will declare that that person is a kafir, because he is holding a belief contrary to the belief of the entire Ummah. So, Imam Mahdi is a person to come, if he has not come already, who will be directly raised and appointed by Allah. However, this is one part of the belief. The other part of the belief is that whoever refuses to accept him will become kafir. The entire Ummah believes in these two things except the Chakaralvis and the Ahle Quran. The rest of the Ummah believe that Imam Mahdi will be appointed by Allah himself, and there will not be an election. They also believe that Imam Mahdi, once he is appointed, will be the imam for the whole Ummah and for the whole universe. Whoever denies him, and whoever opposes him would go out of the pale of Islam.

Now, bearing these two beliefs in mind, quote me one example of any person having these two attributes and these two qualities who was a non- prophet. Not a single man on earth appeared in history with these two qualities who was not a prophet. In fact a single man can not be quoted from the entire history of all the religions where a man can be said to have been appointed directly by Allah, and to believe in him is not imperative. Read the Holy Quran on Iman, where it states in whom you must believe :
(verse of Holy Quran)
These are your fundamental beliefs. Out of the six principles quoted above, only one refers to man, and that is prophets. So among men, except for the prophets, the Holy Quran does not make it incumbent on you to believe in any man but only the prophets are for us to believe in. Thus, according to Quran, only the prophets are us to believe in, otherwise we will become kafirs. Therefore from among men, except for prophets, we are not bound to believe in anybody. Quote one verse form the Holy Quran where apart from the prophets, we are bound to believe in anybody other than a prophet. Yet, this accepted view, Muslims themselves ascribe to Imam Mahdi. Whoever is appointed directly by Allah, is a prophet. So Muslims maintain that they do not believe even a subordinate prophet would ever come, while they believe in Imam Mahdi, and that Allah himself will appoint and raise him. So they are most surely contradicting their own claim. The truth is that Muslims believe in a subordinate prophet the moment they believe in Imam Mahdi. So now it is only a question of personalities left. As far as the beliefs are concerned, any honest and true person will have to agree and admit that the concept of Imam Mahdi is exactly that concept which Ahmadis term as a subordinate prophet. Whether you call him a subordinate prophet or not, whether you call him man or not, is not important. What is important is definition. If you call a man a dog, he still remains a man. If someone enjoys the 2 qualities of Imam Mahdi, he will remain a prophet, whatever you call him. Even if you do not believe in him, he will still remain a prophet.
Again, Muslims believe that Jesus Christ is going to come again. In what capacity is he going to come? Will he leave his prophethood behind in the heavens, if he descends from the heavens? Obviously not, because all Muslim scholars believe and claim, that whoever believes or claims that Jesus Christ, when he reappears, will leave his prophethood behind, and will come as an ordinary person, is a liar and is beyond and outside the pale of Islam. This is a common belief of every Muslim scholar, Ahmadi or non-Ahmadi. The reason for this belief is that our Holy Prophet (pbuh), himself prophesied that when Jesus Christ comes, He would come as a prophet. In the book of Hadith - Muslim, the Holy Prophet (pbuh), himself calls Jesus Christ four times a prophet of Allah ( Nabi-Ullah) in his second coming. Thus according to the hadith of Muslim, Muslims also believe that the Messiah will come, and that he will come as a PROPHET.
Now contrary to common sense, Muslims turn Ahmadis out of the pale of Islam, because they believe the Promised Messiah to be a prophet. While the Promised Messiah, whom Muslims are waiting for themselves, is going to be a prophet. If the Promised Messiah is true, he had to be a prophet, because the Holy Prophet(pbuh) himself said, that the Messiah that is to come will be a prophet. So suppose the Promised Messiah said " I am not a prophet", the Holy Prophet (pbuh) would be declaring the Promised Messiah as a liar, because He would say " Have you not read the Hadith of Muslim?, I have myself named the messiah to appear in this Ummah as a prophet." So if anybody claims that he is a messiah, and not a prophet, he is definitely a liar, you can not prove him otherwise. Yet according to Muslims, if anybody claims to be a messiah, and says that he is a prophet, he is also a liar. So what sort of messiah can come here, in this Ummah. By one way of judgment, he is a liar, because he says he is the messiah and also a prophet - Muslims say prophethood is finished in every form. But when he says that he is the messiah and not a prophet, them Muslims will again say that he is a liar, because the Holy Prophet (pbuh) proclaimed that the messiah to come would also be a prophet.

The only solution offered by other Muslim scholars is that he will be an Ummati Nabi (subordinate prophet). Being an Ummati Nabi is not against the finality of the Holy Prophet (pbuh), and this is exactly what Ahamdis believe in. We do not believe in a new prophethood. We believe in an Ummati, subordinate, prophet, as prophesied, in the Holy Quran, Sura AL-Nisa. (Chapter 4, verse 70 & 71).

Translation: (Chapter 4, verse 70 & 71).

70. And whoso obeys Allah and this Messenger of His shall be among those on whom Allah has bestowed His blessing, namely, the Prophets, the Truthful, the Martyrs, and the Righteous. And excellent companions are these.

71. This grace is from Allah, and sufficient is Allah, the All-Knowing.

So anybody who is going to get any reward or any favor from Allah, after the Holy Prophet (pbuh), according to this verse, has to be SUBORDINATE to the Holy Prophet (pbuh). Once he is subordinate, according to this verse, no reward will be held from him, neither the first reward nor the last one, because all four rewards are mentioned one after the other, namely Prophet, Truthful, Martyrs, and the Righteous - so the belief of all Muslims, Ahmadi and non-Ahmadi, is exactly the same. Apply this belief to Imam Mahdi, who Muslims believe will come, and both our beliefs are exactly the same. He must be a subordinate prophet!. Apply the same belief to the Promised Messiah. Here again both our beliefs are again the same.
So now only one question is left, Has the Imam Mahdi appeared or not?

Muslims declare Ahmadis as non-muslims, because we believe in a new prophet. If we are kafirs because of this, Muslims belief being exactly the same as Ahmadis, every Muslim is therefore a Kafir!


transcription by Usman A. Mangla
 

pathseeker

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Imam Mahdi (A.S.) and the Holy Qur'an

Belief in imam al-Mahdi (a.s) and his characteristics is what the holy Qur'an has given certification to be among the principles of faith. The holy Qur'an says: "We have not neglected anything in the Book" (An’am: 38)

On another occasion the book of Allah states:

"..and We have revealed the book (Qur'an) to you explaining clearly everything (Nahl: 89) It is the nature of Qur'an not to remain silent upon such an important basic principle, the holy prophet (s.a.w.) also called a person that doesn’t believe in imam al-Mahdi (a.s) to be an infidel. There are numerous traditions from both the Shiite and Sunni chains of transmitters that interprete the above mentioned verses in order to explain the view point of Qur'an about Mahdiism (Mahdawiyyah).

These traditions, clearly state that these verses are about imam al-Mahdi (a.s), the book that has the best collection of the verses of Qur'an that talk about imam al-Mahdi (a.s) in the light of Sunni traditions and report, is 'Al Mahdi Fil Quran' written by respected scholar Sayyed Sadiq Shirazi in 1978.

This book records 86 verses of Qur'an that have relationship and are concerned about Hazrat imam al-Mahdi (a.s). Hence the books of able Sunnat are replete with such traditions along with the chains of transmitters.

As for the scholars among the followers of the progeny of the prophet (s.a.w.w) they have compiled numerous books on this subject. The foremost and oldest book is 'Al Muhajja Feema Nazala-fil-Qaaemil Hujjah.' This book is written by the great Shiite’s scholar Allama Syed Haashim Bahrani (1174 A.H.). In this valuable work of research, the author has recorded one hundred and twenty verses of Qur'an that refer to imam al-Mahdi (a.s). He relied on the Shiites traditional reports by benefiting from the narrations of the Ahlul-Bait (a.s). Some reliable scholars have carried out researches and concluded that the book of Allah contains 217 verses that speak explicitly about imam al-Mahdi (a.s) [Ref: al-AyaatuI Baahira Fi Baqiyatil ltratiut Taahira: written by Syed Dawood Meer Sabiri].

In the present discussion, we shall mention some of such verses that there interpretation and commentary state that they have been revealed concerning Hazrat al-Mahdi (a.s) (May Allah hasten his reappearance). We shall quote from both the Shiites and Sunni books of narration.

A-Verses of Qur'an that were revealed about Hazrat al-Mahdi (a.s.) as recorded by the Sunni scholars:

A-1- Huzaifa bin Yamani says: "One day i entered in the presence of the holy Prophet (s.a.w) and asked regarding the following verse, " these are with those upon whom Allah has bestowed favors from among the prophets, the truthful, the martyrs and the good doers, and a goodly company are they! !" (Nisa : 69)I, (HazaifaYamani) asked that who are those referred to in this verse? The holy prophet (s.a.w) replied: "0 Huzaifa, the word 'prophets' upon whom Allah has bestowed favors refers to me. I am the first of the prophets who was selected for prophet hood (before the creation of the world) and i am the last of them to be sent to the world. The word 'truthful' refers to Ali lbn Abi Talib (AS)."When the Almighty Allah sent me as a Prophet, the first one to testify for my Prophet hood is Ali (a.s) The word 'witnesses' implies Hamza and Jafar at-Tayyar (a.s) the word 'good' stands for the two chiefs of the youths of Paradise, Hasan and Husain (a.s). The 'goodly company' refers to imam al-Mahdi in his time. " (Shawahid utTanzeel by Haakim Haskani 1/135)
The last portion of the tradition infers that these people in the time of al-Mahdi (a.s) will be associates of each other and will remain united. This report also indicates the 'Rajat' (resurrection of the Ahlul Bayt (a.s) in the era of the reappearance of hazrat al-Mahdi (may Allah hasten his reappearance).

(2) In a lengthy tradition, Hazrat imam Muhammad al-Baqir (a.s) describes the events of the days of reappearance: "When al-Mahdi (a.s) reappears his back will rest on the wall of Ka’aba, the scene would be such that he would be surrounded completely by 313 of his most obedient and loyal supporters. The first words that he will utter would be the verse of Qur'an that says: "What remains with Allah (Baqiyatullah) is better for you if you are believers.. (Hud : 86)
"After this he is going to declare, i am the Baqiyatullah, the divine vicegerent and His proof on you,' Later, whoever approaches him, salutes him and says, 'as -Salamo Alaika Ya BaqiyatallaheFil Arz' (Salutations upon you, 0 the Baqiyatullah upon the earth)." (Nurul Absar by Syed Momin Shablanjee Shafaee exp. 172 A.H.)

(3) Hasan bin Khalid enquired about the following verse from hazrat Ali lbn Musa ar-Ridha (a.s): " He (Iblis) said: My Lord! then respite me till the time when they are raised. He (Allah) said: So surely you are among the reprieved. Till the period of the time made known. (Hijr : 36-38)
The reporter asked imam (a.s), "Does Satan request Allah for respite till the day of Judgment and did Allah respite him till the appointed hour?" Imam Reza (a.s) replied, "The period of the time made known refers to the day of the reappearance of our Qaem (a.s)" The imam (a.s) was further asked, "0 Son of the Prophet of Allah, who among you i.e. the progeny of the prophet is the Qaa’eem?" He (a.s) replied, "He shall be from my fourth generation. He is the son of the chief of the maids of Allah. He is going to cleanse the face of the earth from all kinds of injustice and tyranny and purify it from all kinds of evils. " (Faraaedus Simtain by Shaykhul Islam Hammui, Vol. 2)

In this exquisite tradition imam Redha that is the eightieth imam (a.s.) has introduced imam al-Mahdi (a.s) as his fourth descendant i.e. the twelfth imam. He has also indicated that the respected mother of Hazrat al-Mahdi (a.s) will be Narjis Khatoon. She is stated to be the daughter of honorable parents but was sold as a slave maid.

(4) It is recorded from the great Sunni exegesist, Saeed bin Jubayr that he says regarding the following verse: " He it is Who sent His Messenger with the guidance and the true religion that He may make it prevail over all the religions; and Allah is enough for a witness. " Fath: 28
The phrase 'that He may make it prevail over all the religions' refers to the same al-Mahdi (a.s.) who is from the progeny of Fatima az-Zahra (s.a). (al-Bayan Fi Akhbare Sahibizamaan Hafiz Ganji Shafaee, p. 73)

Hence the divine promise that Islam shall prevail over all religions will be fulfilled only in the period of the reappearance of imam al-Mahdi (a.s).

(3) One of the stalwarts among the strong writers of ahlis-Sunnah, Hafiz Abu Jafar atTabari narates from Zaid bin Arqam the companion of the holy Prophet (s.a.w.w) that he said, 'When the holy Prophet (s.a.w.w) was returning from the last Hajj, he halted at Ghadeer-e-Khumm at the time of Zohr braving the extremely hot and scorching sun. He led the Muslims in prayers and later delivered an eloquent and meaningful sermon. In it, he recited the verse of Qur'an that says, "Therefore believe in Allah, His Apostle and the Light which we have revealed ..." (Surah Taghabun 64: 8). Then the Prophet (s.a.w.w) said, "O People.! The Light that Allah has revealed is in me. After me in Ali (a.s) and after him in his progeny. Till this sequence reaches al-Qaem al'Mahdi (a.s)". (Maza ' Fi at-Taarikh - Allama Qubaisi, 3/145-147)

Hence, this Light is the light of divine guidance and that of the leadership of the Ummah (the people). First this light was present in the Holy Prophet (s.a.w.w) followed by Ameerul Momineen Ali (a.s) and after him it will continue to exist in his infallible descendents till it reaches Hazrat al-Mahdi (a.s). All these lofty personalities shall be the “Divine Proofs".

(B) The verses of Qur'an revealed about Hazrat Mahdi (a.s.) according to the traditions recorded by Shiites authorities:It is reported from Yahya bin abil Qasim:" I asked Imam Jafar as-Sadiq (a.s) regarding the divine statement - "Alif Lam, Mim. This Book, there is no doubt in it, is a guide to those who guard (against evil). Those who believe in the unseen." Baqarah : 1,2. Imam (a.s) remarked, "those who guard (against evil) are the Shiites i.e. follower of Ali (a.s) and the unseen infers the unseen proof (imam)."

Our contention is corroborated by the following verse of the Holy Qur'an that says: " And they say: Why is not a sign sent to him from his Lord? Say: The unseen is only for Allah; therefore wait-- surely i am also with you among those that wait". [Yunus : 20.] (Ref: Kamaluddin by Shaykh Sadooq, Vol. 2, p. 340)

It is evident that the belief in the Hidden Proof, imam al-Mahdi (may Allah hasten his reappearance) is one of the characteristic features of the Shiites of Ali (a.s). (2) Abu Ja’far imam Muhammad al-Baqir (a.s) explains the following verse of the holy Qur'an: "(They are) those who, if We establish them in the land, establish regular prayer, give regular charity, enjoin the right and forbid wrong: with Allah rests the end (and decision) of (all) affairs". [Hajj : 41]

He (a.s) says, "This verse concerns the progeny of Muhammad (s.a.w.w). The Almighty Allah will present the east and the west of the earth in the service of Hazrat al-Mahdi (a.s) and his companions. He, the Almighty, will make the Islamic religion universal through Hazrat al-Mahdi (a.s) and his companions, ' He will also eradicate innovations (in religion) and evil." (Taweelul Ayaatiz Zaahirah, P.343)
This verse lays the foundation of the reappearance, rising and the rule of Hazrat imam al-Mahdi (a.s).

(3) When Abu Basir asked imam Jafar Sadiq (a.s), the meaning of the following verse : " Allah has promised to those of you who believe and do good that He will most certainly make them rulers in the earth as He made rulers those before them, and that He will most certainly establish for them their religion which He has chosen for them, and that He will most certainly, after their fear, give them security in exchange; . They serve Me. They ascribe no thing as partner unto Me. Those who disbelieve henceforth, they are the miscreants". [Nur:55] imam (a.s) replied, "This verse is revealed in connection with al'Qaem (a.s) and his companions".(Al-Ghaybah, p. 126)

This above mentioned verse of Qur'an is about the reappearance and uprising of imam al-Mahdi (a.s.) ~ the common belief of Ahlus-Sunnah also shows four characteristics and aims for the universal rule of Hazrat al-Mahdi (a.s.)

The establishment of a universal government.
Giving absolute power to the religion of Islam.
Creating an atmosphere for complete security and peace.
Annihilation of polytheism and idolatry(Shirk).

(4) Muhammad bin Abdullah bin Hasan asked from Imam Muhammad al Baqir (a.s.) the meaning of the following verse : "And certainly We wrote in the Book after the reminder that (as for) the land, My righteous servants shall inherit it." (Anbiya : 105)

Imam Baqir (a.s.) said, "The righteous servants in the last age shall be the companions of al-Mahdi (a.s)" (Taaweelul Ayaatiz Zahira)
This verse indicates that the glad tidings of the universal government of the helpers and followers of Hazrat al-Mahdi (a.s) has been mentioned in the Torah and the Zaboor.

(3) Ammar-e-Yasir (r.a.) reported a lengthy tradition from the Holy Prophet (s.a.w.w) wherein he has mentioned the lofty position and merits of Ali lbn Abi Talib (a.s). The Holy prophet (s.a.w.w) has stated in this narration that Hazrat al-Mahdi (a.s.) would be a descendant of Ali (a.s). In reply to the query of Ammar-e-Yasir as to 'who is Mahdi' , the Holy Prophet (s.a.w.w.) said, "0 Ammar! the Almighty Allah has promised me that from the loins of Husain (a.s) will be born ninth imams (a.s). The ninth one of them shall be hidden from the public eye. For the same reason Allah says, " Say; Have you considered if your water should go down in the earth, -who is it then that will bring you spring of flowing water (Mulk : 30) for him (i.e. Mahdi (a.s.) the 12th imam) it would be such a prolonged occultation that a section of the people would turn away from their belief. Whereas another section (of the people) will remain firm and steadfast he is then going to reappear and rise during the last hour and fill the earth with justice and equity just as it would be fraught with injustice and oppressions ... " (Kifayatul Asar, p.l2)

This verse pictures the existence of Hazrat al-Mahdi (a.s) to be like the underground spring of flowing water, gushing forth from the earth. This brief discussion shows that the holy Qur'an contains various aspects of the reappearance, occultation and also the characteristics of Hazrat al-Mahdi (a.s.). There is unanimous agreement by the eminent and the best authoritative reliable scholars of the two schools of Shiites and Sunni on this issue.

May the Almighty Allah, for the intercession of his dearest ones, bring to an end the occultation of the last hope of Humanity, hasten his reappearance and include us among his helpers and followers. Amen.
 

babadeena

Minister (2k+ posts)
Pathseeker/
Be Afraid of Allah to copy n paste without any objectivity. Show me verse
where it is written. You seem to be trying to perforce link any verse, in one way or
the other, to a concept which has not even been mentioned in Quran.
 

pathseeker

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
pathseeker/
be afraid of allah to copy n paste without any objectivity. Show me verse
where it is written. You seem to be trying to perforce link any verse, in one way or
the other, to a concept which has not even been mentioned in quran.

invalid argument.

aap apnay daam main saiyad aa gya.

go and question those ulemas and salf saleheen's who had linked these verses with imam mahdi.i m not convincing you or anybodyelse .anyways truth is always bitter.salam
 

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