The Kind of Music/Raqs Allowed in Islam - A clarifying discussion by the Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamaah

[Cheeko]

Ibn E Taymiyyah[the wahabi sheikh ul islam] on Fana(wajd)

Book: Al Ubudiyyah: Being A True Slave Of Allah
Author: Ibn Taymiyah
Published: Ta-Ha Publishers
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Page Number: 126
Chapter: Fana {"Oblivion"**

"An example of this is the concept of Fana {extinction of individual consciouness, recedence of the ego, obliteration of the self**. Fana is of three types:

1** The fana of the Prophets and Awliyah {Fana Fir'Rasool' & Fana Fil Awliyah** who have attained perfection.
2**The Fana of the Awliyah and the righteous peopl who are striving in the right direction even though they are not perfect.

Page Number: 127

3** The Fana of the hypocrites and heretics who liken Allah to His creation.

The first type of fana means the oblertation of the desire for anything except Allah so that a person does not love anyone or anything except Allah he does not worship anything except Him, he does not rely on anyone except Him and he deos not ask from anyone except Him. This is the sense which should be understood from the words of Seikh Abu Yazid {Al Bistami**: "I want to not to want anything except what He wants, what Pleases the beloved {Allah**." This is what is meant by the religios will of Allah. Perfection means that a man does not want love or like anything except what Allah wants loves and likes which is what He as caommanded and made wajib or mustahab. He only loves those whom Allah loves and such as the Angles, Prophets, and the righteous people. This is what is meant by their intrepration of the Ayah:


This is what is meant by their intrepration of the Ayah: "But only he will prosper who bring to Allah a sound heart." {26:89** They said its is sound and safe from evertthing ecept being a slave of Allah or everything ecvept wanting what Allah wants or everything except Loivng Allah. The meaning is the same and whether its is called fana or not it is the begining and end of Islam the foucus of entire religion."


The second type of fana is oblivion towards others which is attained by many of those who follow the path {triqah**, because their hearts are strongly attracted to remembering, wroshipping and loving Allah and distracted from noticing anyone or anything else. Nothing crosses their minds except thoughts of Allah; they are not even aware of anythng else, as was said in the interpretation of the ayah: "But there came to be a void in the heart of the mother of Musa. she was going almost to disclose his {case**, had We not strenthen her heart {with faith** ..." [28:10** They said: her heart was oblivious to ...
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Page Number: 128

... everything except thoughts of Musa which is the kind of thing that often happens to thouse who are overwhelmed with some concern whether it be love or hope or fear - the heart is disracted from everything except that which is loved or hoped for or feared, so that it is unaware of anything else.
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If this kind of fana overwhelms a person his focus on Allah becomes so intense that he is no longer aware of anything else, not his own existance or the dhikr he is doing and everything diminishes in his senses, every created being the person, himself and everyone else and there remains only the Lord. What is meant is that everything is diminished in persons perception, so that he longer notices or remebers anything, and is quite oblivious to what is going on around him.


If this feeling becomes so strong that the person becomes confused and can no longer make proper distinctions he may think that he is his beloved, as it was said that a man fell into the water and the one who loved him threw himself in after him. The former said: "I fell in by accident; what made you fall?" and the later replied: "I was so overwhelmed with love for you that i thought I was you."
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The idea as caused many people to stumble so that they thought in the terms of phisical unity whereby there is no longer any difference between a person and the object of his love. This is incorrect, for the Creator can not be united with anything else without becoming somehting else altogather; ther essecne of the two things is lost when they unite, and they become a third of thing, neither this nor that as is the case when water and milk are mixed togather, or water or wine and so on. But what is loved and wanted by both becomes one, and what is hated and loathed by both becomes one, so they love ...


on page 129 ibn taymiyyah states about salafs

....... at the time of the Tabi'in, among the worshippers of Al Basra, among whom were some who would swooon or even die when they heard the Quran, such as Abu Juhayr Al Darir and Zararah Ibn Awfa the Qadi of Al Basra.

Some of the Sufi Shaykhs experience this kind of oblivios and and intoxication where they are unable to make proper distinctions, and when they are in that state they may say words which when they come round they realise are wrong
,. Such stories are reported about ...

... acetics such as Abu Yazid {al Bistami**, Abu'l Hasan Al Nuri and Abu Bakr Al Shibli and so on ...


on Page Number: 130

... unlike Abu Sulayman Al Darini, Maruf Al Khar'ki, and Al Fudayl Ibn Ayyad, let alone Al Junayd {Al Baghdadi** and so on, who remained of the sound mind throughou all their experiences and who never rell into states of oblivion or intoxication, etc. Those who have reached a level ofperfection have nothing in theri hearts except love of Allah and the desire to worship Him alone.[Book: Al Ubudiyyah: Being A True Slave Of Allahm Ta-Ha Publishers]

Ibn Taymiyyah again said again

The second category consists of those sufis whose experience of fana and intoxication (sukr) weakened their sense of discrimination, and made them utter words that they later realized to be erroneous when they became sober

► Majmu Fatawa vol. 10, pp. 220-1

 

[Cheeko]

Proof of Wajd/ecstasy and falling down and shrieking on imagining the Prophet (صلّى الله عليه وآله وسلّم) of Glorious Sahabas (رضّى الله عنه) from Sahih hadiths

Hadrat Abu huraira (رضّى الله عنه) going into wajd/swoon 3 times
and falling down like other sahabas (Ra) as quoted by Imam Ghazali (Rah) in Ihya


أَنَّهُ دَخَلَ الْمَدِينَةَ فَإِذَا هُوَ بِرَجُلٍ قَدْ اجْتَمَعَ عَلَيْهِ النَّاسُ فَقَالَ مَنْ هَذَا فَقَالُوا أَبُو هُرَيْرَةَ فَدَنَوْتُ مِنْهُ حَتَّى قَعَدْتُ بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ وَهُوَ يُحَدِّثُ النَّاسَ فَلَمَّا سَكَتَ وَخَلَا قُلْتُ لَهُ أَنْشُدُكَ بِحَقٍّ وَبِحَقٍّ لَمَا حَدَّثْتَنِي حَدِيثًا سَمِعْتَهُ مِنْ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ عَقَلْتَهُ وَعَلِمْتَهُ فَقَالَ أَبُو هُرَيْرَةَ أَفْعَلُ لَأُحَدِّثَنَّكَ حَدِيثًا حَدَّثَنِيهِ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ عَقَلْتُهُ وَعَلِمْتُهُ ثُمَّ نَشَغَ أَبُو هُرَيْرَةَ نَشْغَةً فَمَكَثَ قَلِيلًا ثُمَّ أَفَاقَ فَقَالَ لَأُحَدِّثَنَّكَ حَدِيثًا حَدَّثَنِيهِ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ فِي هَذَا الْبَيْتِ مَا مَعَنَا أَحَدٌ غَيْرِي وَغَيْرُهُ ثُمَّ نَشَغَ أَبُو هُرَيْرَةَ نَشْغَةً أُخْرَى ثُمَّ أَفَاقَ فَمَسَحَ وَجْهَهُ فَقَالَ لَأُحَدِّثَنَّكَ حَدِيثًا حَدَّثَنِيهِ

رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ وَأَنَا وَهُوَ فِي هَذَا الْبَيْتِ مَا مَعَنَا أَحَدٌ غَيْرِي وَغَيْرُهُ ثُمَّ نَشَغَ أَبُو هُرَيْرَةَ نَشْغَةً أُخْرَى ثُمَّ أَفَاقَ وَمَسَحَ وَجْهَهُ فَقَالَ أَفْعَلُ لَأُحَدِّثَنَّكَ حَدِيثًا حَدَّثَنِيهِ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ وَأَنَا مَعَهُ فِي هَذَا الْبَيْتِ مَا مَعَهُ أَحَدٌ غَيْرِي وَغَيْرُهُ ثُمَّ نَشَغَ أَبُو هُرَيْرَةَ نَشْغَةً شَدِيدَةً ثُمَّ مَالَ خَارًّا عَلَى وَجْهِهِ فَأَسْنَدْتُهُ عَلَيَّ طَوِيلًا ثُمَّ أَفَاقَ فَقَالَ حَدَّثَنِي

Translation:
Shufayya Asbahi narrated: I entered Madinah and came upon a man around whom people had gathered. I asked, “Who is he?” They said, “Abu Hurayrah (R.A)“ So, I went near him till I sat down opposite him while he was narrating hadith to the people. When he paused and was alone I said to him, “I ask you by Truth, by Allah, narrate to me a hadith that you may have heard from Allah’s Messenger (SAW), understood it and remembered it.” He said, “ I will do that, narrate to you a hadith that Allah’s Messenger narrated to me and I understood it and I remember it” Then he shrieked and fell unconscious and revived after a while and repeated, “Surely, I will narrate to you a hadith that Allah’s Messenger (SAW) narrated to me in this house, there being no one else with us, only I and he.” Then, Abu Hurayrah shrieked loudly and fell unconscious. He recovered shortly, wired his face and said, “I will do it. Surely I will narrate to you a hadith that Allah’s Messenger narrated to me I and he were in this house, there being no one else with us, besides me and him.” Then he shrieked loudly and fell unconscious and, as he was falling done on his face, I supported him for a long time. Then he regained consciousness and said, “Allah’s Messenger (SAW) narrated....

Then he regained consciousness and said, “Allah’s Messenger (SAW) narrated to me that on the Day of Resurrection, Allah the Exalted, will come down to the worshippers to judge between them and all the ummahs will kneel down. .......

Reference:
(Sunan Al Tirmidhi 48:2389)


عَنْ أَبِي سَعِيْدٍ الْخُدْرِيِّ رضي الله عنه أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلي الله عليه وآله وسلم قَالَ: أَكْثِرُوا ذِكْرَ اللَّهِ حَتَّى يَقُولُوا مَجْنُونٌ

Abu Saeed Khudri (رضی اللہ عنہ) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) said, “Remember Allah (SWT) so much that people start saying, ‘He has gone mad.’”
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References:
► Ahmad ibn Hambal, al-Musnad (3:68#11671)
► Ahmad ibn Hambal, al-Musnad (3:71#11692)
► Ibn Hibban, as-Sahih (3:99#817)
► Abu Yala, al-Musnad (2:521#1376)
► Abd ibn Humayd, al-Musnad (1:289#925)
► Hakim, al-Mustadrak (1:677#1839)
► Bayhaqi, Shuab-ul-iman (1:397#526)
► Daylami, al-Firdaws bima thur al-khitab (1:72#212)
► Ibn Rajab, Jami-ul-ulum wal-hikam (1:444)
► Mundhiri, at-Targhib wat-tarhib (2:256#2304)

 

[Cheeko]

Wajd or Ecstasy is a gift of Allah for muslims in which they lose control of their body due to love of Allah and his Prophet [salehalawaalihi wasalam] when Noor of iman goes into their heart and when their body worships Allah [swt]

Wajd is of different types and every type has different affects some are listed below

1) Some times the condition of Wajd becomes so strong that a muslim loses complete control of his body and starts involuntary movements which look like dancing or running.

2) Some times a muslim goes in Wajd but sits quietly , his mind or body is not longer in normal state or in his control but he sits quietly

3) Some times a muslim falls down and becomes unconcious in this condition. Below proofs even show Sahabas [ra] and Salafs [rah] who died in such a state in deep love of Allah

What is Prohibitted

1) Intentional dancing with Non Mehrams [women] or just to show off is forbidden .

2) Similarly dancing seen in bollywood movies and songs and vulgular ones is totally haram .Although you will see that Wahabi scholars like Albani have even allowed women dancing infront of other women and her husband

Below are irrefutable proofs from Quran, Sahih hadiths, Classical scholars, Awliyas [rah] , And even Wahabis.

 

[Cheeko]

 

[MuslimPK]

Men who [HI]celebrate[/HI] the praises of Allah Y, standing, sitting, and lying down on their sides

this is the standard of translation at website u mentioned in your thread. Just to ensure the allowance qawalli in Islam. meray khayal se SAMANAN QALEELAN shayed isi liye Quran pak main majood ha.

You are right brother ! This is the standard practice of Ahle Bidaah Wal Dhalalah to twist the meaning of Quraan and Ahadees. Thanks Allah, He is the protector of Quran. They can twist the meaning but the original Arabic text is still there. They can deceive jahils but Allah S.W.T protects people who strive and open their minds to understand the real meaning of Quran and Sahih Ahadees without blind taqleed of jahils

 

[Cheeko]

 

[MuslimPK]

Dear Cheeko

Instead of copying and posting links from other sites try spend some time in reading the books and aqeedah of these so called Sufis. I have read all this twisted stuff on tasawwaf practices. It is not only singing and dancing but their basic aqeedah about tawheed, resalah and auliya is diverted from the right path. I have been through all these stages which you are passing through. Previously, I was a strong supporter of Sufis and read every book on Tassawaf and their practices. But I ask Allah S.W.T to forgive me for that. Allah has showed me the right path which is sharia not sufia.

 

[Cheeko]

Dear Cheeko

Instead of copying and posting links from other sites try spend some time in reading the books and aqeedah of these so called Sufis. I have read all this twisted stuff on tasawwaf practices. It is not only singing and dancing but their basic aqeedah about tawheed, resalah and auliya is diverted from the right path. I have been through all these stages which you are passing through. Previously, I was a strong supporter of Sufis and read every book on Tassawaf and their practices. But I ask Allah S.W.T to forgive me for that. Allah has showed me the right path which is sharia not sufia.

This is an old way of msguiding. Think of a new way and then come back here.

 

[simple_and_peacefull]

does music lead you to true Islam or Quran & Pray lead you to true Islam. if listening music by headphone/high volume then how can you will hear Azaan.

 

[Cheeko]

does music lead you to true Islam or Quran & Pray lead you to true Islam. if listening music by headphone/high volume then how can you will hear Azaan.

You could only come up with a silly argument. How can a person even remember prayers when he is having a hardcore sex with his wife? Don't bring in rubbish. Debate with rationality. Anyone who doesn't want to pray will never pray but the ones who want to pray will remember the timings of Azan and prayers. Good music does not lead away from Islam.

 

[MuslimPK]

This is an old way of msguiding. Think of a new way and then come back here.

This thread was started by a member of your group and as I mentioned earlier whenever your group try to propagate bidaah, grave worshiping and shirk and label it as Islam I will oppose. Definitely you would like to follow innovator buzargs and Sufis so
Lakum deenukum waliya deen

 

[next2saint]

Anything that doesnt make u astray is allowed in Islam...


is eating chicken allowed in Islam? answer is yes and no

yes, if God's name is taken before slaughtering
no, if its done without God's name..


hence if poetry of music drives u away from God and is full of vulgarity (which often the case is) then one shud avoid it..
similarly, dancing decently aint prohibited.. birds dance too... birds aint sinner in my book...

 

[MuslimPK]

Anything that doesnt make u astray is allowed in Islam...


is eating chicken allowed in Islam? answer is yes and no

yes, if God's name is taken before slaughtering
no, if its done without God's name..


hence if poetry of music drives u away from God and is full of vulgarity (which often the case is) then one shud avoid it..
similarly, dancing decently aint prohibited.. birds dance too... birds aint sinner in my book...

See the difference

For us this works and brings us near to Allah S.W.T

For iinovators this works and takes them near to ...........

 

[simple_and_peacefull]

i can also start a long debate like others doing but i will not start because its useless for you and waste of time, we may not agree on each others points. so i can only do Duaa for all misguided people.

ALLAH SWT give guidness to all misguided people. show them right path. AMEEN


note : don't take it personally. misguided person could be me or you .

You could only come up with a silly argument. How can a person even remember prayers when he is having a hardcore sex with his wife? Don't bring in rubbish. Debate with rationality. Anyone who doesn't want to pray will never pray but the ones who want to pray will remember the timings of Azan and prayers. Good music does not lead away from Islam.

 

[next2saint]

QUOTE]

u seem mulla to me.. no wonder cudnt get the gist of the matter...

innovation = from horse/camel rides to car rides

insanity = still relying on moon sighting through naked eye

 

[Pakistani1947]

Hadeeths related to Music found in two authentic Books of Hadiths (Sahih al-Bukhari, Sahih Muslim)

Read the following authentic Hadeeths listed below. You will note that after reading all these Hadeeths, maximum you can get little relaxation on Eid days or during marriage ceremonies. The point to be noted that this relaxation is for the singing (not dancing) of small girls. In one of the Hadeeth the words of Abu Bakr (RA) "Musical instruments of Satan", proves that it was a norm that Musical instruments were not welcomed or liked. But Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وسلم) said "Leave them Abu Bakr, for every nation has an 'Id (i.e. festival) and this day is our 'Id." (Sahih Bukhari, Book #58, Hadith #268). This Hadeeth combined with other hadeeths shows permissibility or relaxation of playing music by small girls during Eid or marriage ceremony ONLY.

Following are the almost all hadeeths related to Music found in two authentic Books of Hadiths (Sahih al-Bukhari, Sahih Muslim):

Narrated Aisha: Allah's Apostle (p.b.u.h) came to my house while two girls were singing beside me the songs of Buath (a story about the war between the two tribes of the Ansar, the Khazraj and the Aus, before Islam). The Prophet (p.b.u.h) lay down and turned his face to the other side. Then Abu Bakr came and spoke to me harshly saying, "Musical instruments of Satan near the Prophet (p.b.u.h) ?" Allah's Apostle (p.b.u.h) turned his face towards him and said, "Leave them." When Abu Bakr became inattentive, I signaled to those girls to go out and they left. It was the day of 'Id, and the Black people were playing with shields and spears; so either I requested the Prophet (p.b.u.h) or he asked me whether I would like to see the display. I replied in the affirmative. Then the Prophet (p.b.u.h) made me stand behind him and my cheek was touching his cheek and he was saying, "Carry on! O Bani Arfida," till I got tired. The Prophet (p.b.u.h) asked me, "Are you satisfied (Is that sufficient for you)?" I replied in the affirmative and he told me to leave. (Sahih Bukhari, Book #15, Hadith #70)

Narrated Aisha: Abu Bakr came to my house while two small Ansari girls were singing beside me the stories of the Ansar concerning the Day of Buath. And they were not singers. Abu Bakr said protestingly, "musical instruments of Satan in the house of Allah's Apostle !" It happened on the 'Id day and Allah's Apostle said, "O Abu Bakr! There is an 'Id for every nation and this is our 'Id." (Sahih Bukhari, Book #15, Eids, Hadith #72)

Narrated Aisha: That once Abu Bakr came to her on the day of 'Id-ul-Fitr or 'Id ul Adha while the Prophet was with her and there were two girl singers with her, singing songs of the Ansar about the day of Buath. Abu Bakr said twice. "musical instrument of Satan!" But the Prophet said, "Leave them Abu Bakr, for every nation has an 'Id (i.e. festival) and this day is our 'Id." (Sahih Bukhari, Book #58, Hadith #268)

Narrated Ar-Rabi': (the daughter of Muawwidh bin Afra) After the consummation of my marriage, the Prophet came and sat on my bed as far from me as you are sitting now, and our little girls started beating the tambourines and reciting elegiac verses mourning my father who had been killed in the battle of Badr. One of them said, "Among us is a Prophet who knows what will happen tomorrow." On that the Prophet said, "Leave this (saying) and keep on saying the verses which you had been saying before." (Sahih Bukhari; Book #62, Hadith #77)

'A'isha reported: The Messenger of Allah (way peace be upon him) came (in my apartment) while there were two girls with me singing the song of the Battle of Bu'ath. He lay down on the bed and turned away his face. Then came Abu Bakr and he scolded me and said: Oh! this musical instrument of the devil in the house of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him)! The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) turned towards him and said: Leave them alone. And when he (the Holy Prophet) became unattentive, I hinted them and they went out, and it was the day of 'Id and negroes were playing with shields and speare. (I do not remember) whether I asked the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) or whether he said to me if I desired to see (that sport). I said: Yes. I stood behind him with his face parallel to my face, and he said: O Banu Arfada, be busy (in your sports) till I was satiated. He said (to me): Is that enough? I said: Yes. Upon this he asked me to go. (Sahih Muslim, Book #004, Hadith #1942)

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The bell is the musical instrument of the Satan. (Sahih Muslim,Book #024, Hadith #5279)

Narrated Abu 'Amir or Abu Malik Al-Ash'ari: that he heard the Prophet saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful. And there will be some people who will stay near the side of a mountain and in the evening their shepherd will come to them with their sheep and ask them for something, but they will say to him, 'Return to us tomorrow.' Allah will destroy them during the night and will let the mountain fall on them, and He will transform the rest of them into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection." (Sahih Bukhari,Book #69, Drinks, Hadith #494v)


Conclusion: The above listed hadiths can maximum justify singing (not even dancing) of little girls with daff in a non-religious activity. Singing and dancing in religious places (for example Dargah or Mazar) can not be justified in the light of above Hadeeths.

 

[modern fakir]

Salam Brother

How can you claim that your not starting a sectarian debate when you start off calling sufis "jahil". Here you have already given a Fatwa ur not qualified for..and you mention that you dont believe in anything BUT the Quran and Sunnah then have you even bothered to read my article properly ...Cant you see the Hadith and the Quranic ayat's mentioned in the article ...Are you Blind ??

I think the case is that you want to hear Quranic ayats and ahadith based on what ur used to hearing ...well brother let me tell you that ..Islam is not a few years old and these ideas are presenting are from RENOWNED scholars. You might be following some Jahil Moulvis as your language and upright Brash attitude suggests in which you badmouth people at the first occasion without even knowing how magnanamous some sufis or moulvis were. This surely is not short of sheer surliness, extreme illiteracy and jump the gun attitude which is only befitting of a third world village dweller and nothing else.

Surely in an environment you seem to have come up ..you would be completely ignorant of the 1400 glorious years of Islamic History and how music was conducted in these historic times. Also not to mention how ur mind is shut to entertaining any alternate opinion although it might only be to hold an intellectual conversation. But you have proved me right that holding intellectual conversation cannot be expected from Jahils who call renowned sufis and maulvis name without any justification.

So brother you listen to whoever you like and I will listen to the scholars and whoever i choose to ...You dont like reading Ahle Sunnah wal Jamah ..then right click your mouse button and Move on ....we will deal with the civilized Gentry ...chao!



Dear brother
I dont want to start a sectarian debate here, but the only acceptable source to me is Quraan and Sunnah! thats it. If you want to follow bidaah, shirk, grave worshiping, peer and sufi worshiping its up to you but dont sell it with the label of Islam or Ahle Sunnah. Real Ahle Sunnah are the followers of Prophet Muhammad S.W.A and not of some mad jahil mavlavis and Sufis.[/QUOTE]

 

[modern fakir]

Yes ...innovators like you because you try to make what is Legitimate as illegitimate based on YOUR WHIMS and Wishes without any knowledge of intellect ...we will continue publishing and the public will agree with us because we hold 90% of the Islamic population (bigsmile)...You will also change but in time ...and Inshallah we will not leave you alone ...we will always present scholarly evidence to get rid of your self concocted beliefs

This thread was started by a member of your group and as I mentioned earlier whenever your group try to propagate bidaah, grave worshiping and shirk and label it as Islam I will oppose. Definitely you would like to follow innovator buzargs and Sufis so
“Lakum deenukum waliya deen”

 

[Pakistani1947]

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Yusuf Ali 35: Their prayer at the House (of Allah. is nothing but whistling and clapping of hands: (Its only answer can be), "Taste ye the penalty because ye blasphemed." (Quraan 8:35)

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Read the above Quraanic verse and watch below what today's Muslims are doing:

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[modern fakir]

Talk is cheap....Bring us proof's...none of the guys opposing us here has posted any scholarly evidence ....which may prove raqs or Naats are completely Haram...We have posted several Ahadith...Bring your proofs otherwise accept the truth and dont burn in rage (bigsmile)...May Allah Truly show these ignoramouses the true and easy path to salvation and the way to a learned scholar from whom they can actually learn real Islam ...as opposed to how each and everyone one of them interpreting things according to their own wishes and whims...Ameen

i can also start a long debate like others doing but i will not start because its useless for you and waste of time, we may not agree on each others points. so i can only do Duaa for all misguided people.

ALLAH SWT give guidness to all misguided people. show them right path. AMEEN


note : don't take it personally. misguided person could be me or you .