The Kind of Music/Raqs Allowed in Islam - A clarifying discussion by the Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamaah

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modern fakir

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RECITATION AND SINGING WITH OR WITHOUT MUSIC
IN THE LIGHT OF QURAN AND AHADITH

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If someone tries to sum up the change in Arabs in the hands of Prophet Mohammad (SAWS), he will conclude that the Prophet (SAWS) cleansed their hearts and changed their mindset and made them good Muslims.


From their past traditions, what was allowed to be continued by Prophet Mohammad (SAWS)?During Prophet’s (SAWS) time, there were only two musical instruments, flute and tambourine and both these instruments were permitted.

Now a days many new musical instruments have been made. If someone uses them in singing, why can’t these be allowed?All Hadiths relating to prevention of Singing (Gina) have been proved to be ‘weak Ahadith’ by all Imams of Fiqh.
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At the time of the advent of Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) people who lived in Hijaz were mostly descendants of the followers of Prophet Ibrahim (AS) and Hazrat Ismail (AS).

The historians say that the period between Ibrahim (AS) and Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) was over 2000 years. During this period, people gradually deviated from the teachings of Prophet Ibrahim (AS) and though they believed in one God, they started worshiping idols of all kinds. Many of these idols were brought to Makka Al-Mukarrama from far off places where Arabs used to go for merchandise.
Some Arabs were also the followers of other prophets; like Hazrat Moosa (AS) and Hazrat Isa (AS) who were known as Jews and Christians respectively. In Islamic history, this period is known as ‘the days of illiteracy (Ayyam-e-Jahiliyyah).

What changes took place after the advent of Prophet Mohammad (SAWS)?

Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) brought the Arabs back to Islam; introduced worship of Allah (SWT) and showed them how to worship Him. Certain practices of Arabs, like killing of girl child, wine drinking, usury, etc., were forbidden. Few other things were not banned, but regularized as per Islamic laws. Like unlimited polygamy was stopped and people were allowed to marry a maximum of 4 women with certain conditions. Improvement on humanistic behavior was introduced which helped them to become sincere and good human beings.

If anyone tries to sum up the change in Arabs in the hands of Prophet Mohammad (SAWS), he will conclude that the Prophet (SAWS) cleansed their hearts and changed their mindset and made them good Muslims.


From their past traditions, what was allowed to be continued by Prophet Mohammad (SAWS)?


The day to day lives of Arabs mostly remained unchanged with the exclusion of certain areas where Islamic reforms were introduced. Their living, their eating habits, their clothing, their cultural traditions, their practice of doing business, and many more things continued, rather Islamic rules further improved their living conditions.
For instances they were not required to change their names. They were allowed to continue with their wives and children. They were allowed to live in their own houses and encouraged to continue their businesses/agriculture as usual, except that usury was prohibited.

There were hundreds of tribes of Arabs living in Arabian Peninsula and Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) did not force them to change anything except certain areas where Islamic reforms were introduced.

Arab tribes had different accent in their colloquial Arabic. They were allowed to recite Quran in their own accent. But these recitals did not have any bearing on the understanding of the Quran. These recitals were later known as ‘seven recitals’ and ten recitals. Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) did not force them to use the accent of Quraish in reading Quran. In all these recitals, Hazrat Hafs (RU) recital was very close to the accent of Quraish.

Singing as a show happiness was wide spread in Prophet’s (SAWS) time. Certain cultural traditional dances remained unchanged. In a nutshell, Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) did not touch the cultural life of Arabs except in certain areas where Islamic values were introduced.


Islam is a versatile and happening religion. It is meant for the people of the whole world until the day of Resurrection. The cultural values of people of the whole world can be accommodated within the parameters of Islam. Islam has taught people certain basic requirements in their lives. These have to be as per the basic laws of Islam as taught by Prophet Mohammad (SAWS). Islam does not impose anything against the basic nature of human beings. It reforms their nature and facilitates them to become good human beings.

It is in Quran‘O’ people of belief, do not consider forbidden those good things that Allah (SWT) has allowed. (Al-Maa’ida – 87).


It is in HadithIt is narrated by Hazrat Abu Huraira (RU) that the Apostle (SAWS) said, ‘one who does not recite Quran with rich (vocal) recitation, is not among us. (Bukhari and Muslim).

It is in Hadith - It is narrated by Hazrat Abu Huraira (RU) that the Apostle (SAWS) said Allah (SWT) does not listen to anything the way He listens to the loud vocal recital of Quran by the melodious voice of the Prophet (SAWS). (Bukhari and Muslim).


Writing of poetry and its recitation was allowed by Prophet Mohammad (SAWS).

It is in Hadith -
It is narrated by Hazrat Buraida (RU) that I heard Prophet (SAWS) saying, some (couplet) is convincing speech, some are ignorant talk, and some couplet is wisdom and some are narrow mindedness’(Abu Dawood).


Writing of Na’at (Eulogy of Prophet Mohammad –SAWS) and its recitation was very much liked by the Prophet (SAWS).

It is in Hadith - The mother of believers, Hazrata Aisha (RA) narrated that the Prophet (SAWS) used to keep a Pulpit ( stand ) at the Prophet’s (SAWS) mosque for Hazrat Hassaan Bin Saabith (RU), and Hazrat Hassaan (RU) used to climb over it and used to express pride for, and defend Prophet (SAWS) (meaning he used to recite Na’at) and the Prophet (SAWS) used to say that Allah (SWT) supports Hassaan from Hazrat Jibreel (AS) as long as he expresses pride for and defends the Apostel (SAWS). (Bukhari).


Playing of tambourine (Daf) and flute and dancing in joy was allowed and liked by Prophet Mohammad (SAWS).

It is in Hadith –
Hazrata Aisha (RA) has narrated that the Apostel(SAWS) said that ‘make announcement for the marriage ceremony and perform the ceremony at mosque and play on the tambourine (Daf).(Tirmizi).

It is in Hadith –
It is narrated by Hazrat Mohammad Bin Haatib (RU), and he narrates it from Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) who said that the difference between lawful (halaal) and unlawful (Haraam) is that in marriages singing and drum beating is performed. (Ahmad, Tirmizi, Nasa’ee and Ibnu Maaja).

It is in Hadith –
Hazrata Aisha (RA) narrates that when one Ansari’s bride was sent to her groom’s house in her bridal attire, the Prophet (SAWS) said that ‘Don’t you have some play and fun because the Ansar’s like fun’. (Bukhari).

It is in Hadith –
It is narrated by Hazrata Aisha (RA), she said ‘I swear to Allah (SWT), I saw the Prophet (SAWS), and the Habashis (a tribe of Madina) are playing (dancing) with spears and the Prophet (SAWS) hides me with his coverlet so that I could see their play from between his ear and shoulder. Then he stays for me until I myself will return back’. (Bukhari and Muslim).

It is in Hadith –
It is narrated by Hazrat Abu Moosa (RU) that the Prophet (SAWS) said, O’Moosa, you have been given a flute of the people of Dawood (AS). (Tirmizi).

It is in Hadith –
Hazrata Aisha (RA) narrates that Hazrat Abu Bakr (RU) came to our home when two girls were clapping and playing on the tambourine (Daf) during ‘Mana’, and in another narration (the girls were) singing such couplets which were recited by Ansaars during the war of Ba’as. When Hazrat Abu Bakr (RU) chided these girls, the Prophet (SAWS) took out the (bed) sheet from his face and said O’Abu Bakr (RU), leave them, as this is festival time. And in one narration (it is said) O’ Abu Bakr (RU), every nation has festival and this is our festival.’(Bukhari and Muslim).


During Prophet’s (SAWS) time, there were only two musical instruments, flute and tambourine and both these instruments were permitted.

Now a days many new musical instruments have been made. If someone uses them in singing, why can’t these be allowed?

However, if someone is singing something which explains physical beauty of a woman or describes polytheism and infidelity or idolatery, its recital and singing is senseless, waste of time and will be considered as sin.
Similarly, singing and dancing of young men and women together on stages cannot be allowed.


Every aspect of human activity has positive and negative features. Islam disallowed negative features and allowed the positive side.

Fornication and infidelity is not allowed. But you can have legal marital bliss.Singing, music and dancing which leads people towards sin cannot be allowed. But if someone recites the eulogy of Prophet Mohammad (SAWS), meaning recites Na'at, with musical instruments, how can it be disallowed?

If someone sings in praise of his parents because they have supported him in his life, how can we disallow it?

If someone sings in praise of his teacher for his services, how can it be disallowed?

If someone recites a poetry in praise of his Shaikh who taught him Arabic, Quran and Hadith, how can this be disallowed?

If someone sings, dances and plays musical instruments in times of joys, festivals, marriages, how can it be disallowed?

If someone arranges ‘Sama’ gatherings and recital of poetry in praise of Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) and As-hab-e-Rasulullah (SAWS) and legendary Shaikhs of Ihsan and uses musical instruments, this will be treated as Sunnah because Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) has allowed and liked it.

Muhammad ibn Ahmad al-Saffarini al-Hanbali (d. 1188) relates in his Ghidha' al-albab li-sharh manzumat al-adab from Ibrahim ibn `Abd Allah al-Qalanasi that Imam Ahmad said about the Sufis: "I don't know people better than them." Someone said to him: "They listen to music and they reach states of ecstasy (Meaning they do Wajd)." He said: "Do you prevent them from enjoying an hour with Allah (SWT)?"

If people recite Salam and Durood in chorus with music on Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) it will be treated as Sunnah because Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) and Allah (SWT) both like it.

The tradition of hearing of vocal music is also proved from companions of Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) and their first and second generation followers. Read the following 15 Ahadith.



  • It is narrated by Ibne Abdul Bar that Hazrat Omer (RU) heard vocal music.
  • It is narrated by Madarvi and Rafa’ee that Hazrat Osman (RU) heard vocal music.
  • It is narrated by Ibn Abi Shaibah that Hazrat Abdul Rahman Bin Auf (RU) heard vocal music.
  • It is narrated by Baihaqi, Ibn Maaja, Sa’eed Bin Mansour and Wahidi that Hazrat Abu Obaidah bin Jarrah (RU) heard music.
  • It is narrated by Baihaqi that Hazrat Bilal (RU), Hazrat Abd bin Arqam (RU) and Hazrat Osama Bin Zaid (RU) heard it.
  • It is narrated by Ibn Zaher that Hazrat Hamza (RU) heard it.
  • It is narrated by Abu Nayeem that Hazrat Barra bin Malik heard it.
  • It is narrated by Ibn Abdul Bar that Hazrat Abdullah Bin Jaber (RU) heard it.
  • It is narrated by Abu Talib Makki that Hazrat Abdullah Bin Zubair (RU) heart it.
  • It is narrated by Abu Tafra Asbahani that Hazrat Hassaan Bin Saabith (RU) heard it.
  • It is narrated by Zubain bin Akkar that Hazrat Abdullah bin Omer (RU) heard it.
  • It is narrated by Ibn Qutbla that Hazrat Hazrat Qurazta bin Ka’ab heard it.
  • It is narrated by Bukhari that Hazrata Aisha (RA) heard it.
  • It is narrated by Abu Talib Makki that Hazrat Mugaira bin Sha’aba (RU) heard it.
  • It is narrated by Madravi that Hazrat Umroo bin Aass (RU) heard it.

The listeners of Audition (singing/recital with music) are numerous in Prophet’s (SAWS) time and later among his companions and their second generation ta’aba’een (known as Salaf).

All 4 Imams of Fiqh and Ibn Ainia and Sha’afais have supported this school of thought.


All Hadiths relating to prevention of Singing (Gina) have been proved to be ‘weak hadiths’ by all Imams of fiqh.

Some misguided people and their like minded groups always mention a Hadith in which it is mentioned that ‘wine, fornication, silky wear and singing are not allowed’.

It is obvious, the singing will be judged as per the assembly of people and what they are singing. But, how can someone imposes this Hadith on the recitation of Na’at of the Prophet (SAWS) which was liked by him very much?

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If anyone denies authentic Prophet's (SAWS) Ahadith, he will go out of Islam as an arrow goes out of the bow.
If someone accepts the claim of some misguided sects., we will be in great trouble on the Day of Judgment. Let us be careful about it.

Recitation of Salam, Sama, Eulogy of all venerable people of religion with or without Music is allowed in Islam, because the Prophet (SAWS) and Sahaba have allowed it.

To do Wajd, or stand or cry slowly or loudly in Sama gatherings on couplets of eulogy on Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) is Sunnah. Allah (SWT) and His Apostle (SAWS) feel happy about it. All these actions are proved by the traditions of the companions of Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) and their followers.What kind of following of Salaf is this?

The misguided people and their like minded groups say that they follow the Salaf ( the companions of Prophet Mohammad – SAWS and their first generation followers – ta’aba’een ), but in practice they do exactly the opposite of it.

It is in Quran –
O’people of belief, do not consider forbidden those good things that Allah (SWT) has allowed. (Al-Maa’ida – 87).

Some misguided people have the habit of imposing
Quranic verses and Ahadith meant for disbelievers, on Muslims in order to misrepresent Islam on the gullible people. Innocent people get carried away by their utterances and get mislead. They do not realize that by their actions, they may get some worldly benefits or may be leadership of the community, but what will happen in Hereafter should be a matter of concern for them.
 
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fahid_asif

Senator (1k+ posts)
I think u wrote last para for urself? To sale CDs? You people may also know how much money the Naat Khawan take for one Naat.............I am also from Hanfi fiqh but don't like to interpret Islam for my personal views because I have to answer Allah, Not Modern Molvies..........................And we also know at the moment, Its the era of Fitna......................to bhai jan mujhay to der lagta ha, aap apnay molvion ko sucha sabet kernay k liye kuch b ker saktey ho...................Islam ko nhi

Islam 1 pakeeza mazhab ha, Pakeezgi ki prefrence ha, kaheen hud se tajawaz nazar nhi aye ga, kahin kafir ki mumaslat nazar nhi aye gi, Jaisa k faras k safeer ko daikh K Aap SAW na monh mor liya tha k tumhari ye shakal kis na bigari, us na kaha us k khuda(kisra) na, To AAP SAW na farmaya k Humaray Khuda na to darhi berhaany ka hukam diya ha phir AAp SAW na muslims ko fermaya k kafron ki mukhalfat kro, darhi berhao, moonchain ketwao.........aur aap na fatwa sader ker diya k Islam anay se culture values tabdeel nhi hoeen, ya bohut kum hoeen,..................khuda ka khaouf kro..................Hadees se inkar nhi, lakin aap jis kisam ki tashreeh ker rhay hain, us se ikhtlaf ha
 

modern fakir

MPA (400+ posts)
Brother, Salam o alikum

We welcome your opinion.. But would also like to mention that if you know anything about Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamaah then their is a thing called TAQLID ...following the opinion of scholars in matter WE ARE NOT AWARE OFF.

So in that regard brother fahad we are just PRESENTING an ALTERNATE opinion :) from the Scholars of Ahle Sunnah wal Jamaah !

And i promise you I havent written a single thing in this article ..but simply relayed it to you through the scholars.

Salam o alikum



I think u wrote last para for urself? To sale CDs? You people may also know how much money the Naat Khawan take for one Naat.............I am also from Hanfi fiqh but don't like to interpret Islam for my personal views because I have to answer Allah, Not Modern Molvies..........................And we also know at the moment, Its the era of Fitna......................to bhai jan mujhay to der lagta ha, aap apnay molvion ko sucha sabet kernay k liye kuch b ker saktey ho...................Islam ko nhi

Islam 1 pakeeza mazhab ha, Pakeezgi ki prefrence ha, kaheen hud se tajawaz nazar nhi aye ga, kahin kafir ki mumaslat nazar nhi aye gi, Jaisa k faras k safeer ko daikh K Aap SAW na monh mor liya tha k tumhari ye shakal kis na bigari, us na kaha us k khuda(kisra) na, To AAP SAW na farmaya k Humaray Khuda na to darhi berhaany ka hukam diya ha phir AAp SAW na muslims ko fermaya k kafron ki mukhalfat kro, darhi berhao, moonchain ketwao.........aur aap na fatwa sader ker diya k Islam anay se culture values tabdeel nhi hoeen, ya bohut kum hoeen,..................khuda ka khaouf kro..................Hadees se inkar nhi, lakin aap jis kisam ki tashreeh ker rhay hain, us se ikhtlaf ha
 

fahid_asif

Senator (1k+ posts)
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Men who [HI]celebrate[/HI] the praises of Allah Y, standing, sitting, and lying down on their sides

this is the standard of translation at website u mentioned in your thread. Just to ensure the allowance qawalli in Islam. meray khayal se SAMANAN QALEELAN shayed isi liye Quran pak main majood ha.
 
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modern fakir

MPA (400+ posts)
Brother...ordinary people should not interpret and pass opinions on the Quran and Translation because the Ahle Sunnah wal Jaamah scholars have spent lifetimes learning Islam through various subjects and they well versed in what they do . Plus everything is based on several opinions ...so we or ordinary people should be cautious in passing opinions deemed disrespective


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Men who [HI]celebrate[/HI] the praises of Allah Y, standing, sitting, and lying down on their sides

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fahid_asif

Senator (1k+ posts)
Naturally if something is allowed it should be liked ...Men like women so they get married ...Whats wrong with that :) ...Its all good brother ..chill out and enjoy the good things Allah Has Allowed :)

If u are true follower of Ala HAzrat, then you should remember that he gave a fatwa against Qawali !
Bhai hum gunahgaar loog pta nhi kiya kiya kertay hain, ho sakta ha main khud qawali sunta hoon, lakin mujhay pta ha ye theek nhi aur main apnay is fail ko sabat nhi kron ga bhai jo ghalt ha so ghalt ha aur na hi kisi aur ko mashwara doon ga, ho sakta ha is wajah se ko gunah kray aur us ka ajar b mujhay milay........ha na?
 

modern fakir

MPA (400+ posts)
Brother i think their is some misunderstanding...I havent passed any opinions here on qawwali ..I dont even know if tahir qadri likes it. I just mentioned that if something is Halaal then its ok to like it. I personally only like the Naat's and have strongly condemned any kind of modern music which mentioned lewdness or anything Haraam.

I respect Alahazrat for his opinions and consider him a Great scholar !

If u are true follower of Ala HAzrat, then you should remember that he gave a fatwa against Qawali !
Bhai hum gunahgaar loog pta nhi kiya kiya kertay hain, ho sakta ha main khud qawali sunta hoon, lakin mujhay pta ha ye theek nhi aur main apnay is fail ko sabat nhi kron ga bhai jo ghalt ha so ghalt ha aur na hi kisi aur ko mashwara doon ga, ho sakta ha is wajah se ko gunah kray aur us ka ajar b mujhay milay........ha na?
 

MuslimPK

Voter (50+ posts)
Brother...ordinary people should not interpret and pass opinions on the Quran and Translation because the Ahle Sunnah wal Jaamah scholars have spent lifetimes learning Islam through various subjects and they well versed in what they do . Plus everything is based on several opinions ...so we or ordinary people should be cautious in passing opinions deemed disrespective


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Dear brother
I dont want to start a sectarian debate here, but the only acceptable source to me is Quraan and Sunnah! thats it. If you want to follow bidaah, shirk, grave worshiping, peer and sufi worshiping its up to you but dont sell it with the label of Islam or Ahle Sunnah. Real Ahle Sunnah are the followers of Prophet Muhammad S.W.A and not of some mad jahil mavlavis and Sufis.
 

Cheeko

Minister (2k+ posts)
Sufi Raqs (dance) in light of Shariah

There has been some controversy lurking around regarding legitimacy of the Sufi Raqs (dance) or Hadra as it is called in Arab world which is practiced by eminent Sufis and Mashaikh. People who carry deep Bughz (hatred) for Sufis are often seen spreading propaganda that Sufis are dancers and they have nothing to do with Shariah, but what they forget is that they have no proof whatsoever from Quran and Sunnah on “NAFI” of Raqs whereas we have overwhelming proofs which establish Raqs directly from hadith itself, even absence of Nafi is itself a proof of it being allowed and it cannot be declared haram until proven otherwise.



Proofs of Sufi Dancing [raqs]

Hadith # 1


حدّثنا عبد الله حدثني أبي، ثنا عبد الصمد قال: ثنا حماد ، عن ثابت ، عن أنس قال: كانت الحبشة يزفنون بين يدي رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلّم ويرقصون ويقولون: محمد عبد صالح ، فقال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلّم: ما يقولون؟ قالوا: يقولون: محمد عبد صالح

It is narrated by Anas (R.A) that the Habashis were present in front of the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) and “THEY WERE DANCING (Yarqasun)
and saying: Muhammadun Abdun Salih (i.e. Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم the righteous slave). The Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) asked: What are they saying? They said: Muhammadun Abdun Salih
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[Musnad Ahmed bin Hanbal, Volume No.3, Page no. 152]
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Note : All narrators of this hadith are those of Sahih bukhari and muslim
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Shu’yb al Aran’ut said after this hadith:
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إسناده صحيح على شرط مسلم
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The Chain is “SAHIH” on the criteria of “MUSLIM” [ibid]

Imam Nawawi (rah) on Above hadithsaid

with commentary by Muhammad Shirbini Khatib It is not prohibited to dance ((Shirbini ) which is not unlawful because it is only motions made while standing or bowing. Furani and others have expressly stated that neither is it offensive, but rather, is permissible, as is attested to by the hadith related in the Sahihs of Bukhari and Muslim that the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) stood before ‘A’isha (Allah be well pleased with her) to screen her from view so that she could observe the Abyssinians sporting and dancing) – unless it is languid, like the movements of the effeminate (Mughni al-muhtaj ila ma’rifa ma’ani alfaz al-Minhaj (y73), 4.430)

Imam Ibn Hajar Al-Haytami (Rah) on above Hadith said about above hadith

Beating the kuba is prohibited… but dancing isn’t, being neither prohibited nor offensive, because it is only motions made while standing or bowing, and further because he (sallallahu alayhi wa sallam) consented to the Abyssinians doing so in his mosque on the day of Eid, as related by Bukhari and Muslim.

The bold text is from the Minhaj of Imam Nawawi while the rest is Ibn Hajar’s commentary [Tuhfa al-Muhtaj fi Sharh al-Minhaj]


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Now how many other imams [rah] of Hadith used the word Raqs "Dance" although a Salaf is enough proof in this case but still

1": Imam Tabarani [rah] used the word Raqs [dancing] Reference: Hadith #3 on page 121, Volume 9

2: Imam Nisai [rah] in Sunan Al Kubra using the word Dance "RAQS"] in page # 309, Vol 5 with same Sahih chain and says

that the Abysinians were standing in front of the door of the Holy Prophet e’s house and were ‘ecstatically dancing’ or performing raqs on anticipation of seeing the Holy Prophet Muhammad (saw)

3: Imam Zamakshari also explained the same haditth with a Sahih chain calling it Raqs , And said Qala al zafaru Al Raqs The word in the hadith means Raqs

4: Imam Suyuti [rah] in[ Sharh Sahih Bukhari pg 123, Al hajl Al tawseeh] said " Al hajalo al raqs biha til maqstatin "

5: Imam Juhri [in kitab ul lugat pg 46] Says Al zafl wa Raqs
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6: Imam murtaza Zubaide [rah] in Taj us uloom kitbah ul lugat ] says " Zafana zasfun zafana ie. It Stands for Raqs [dance]

7: Imam Ibn Manzoor [in lisan ul arab, most authnetic book of lugat pg 135 ] says Al Zafl Al Raqs (i.e it means Raqs )

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Imam Nabawi [rah] writes in sharh sahih muslim pg 347 says Mana hu yarqusoon (i.e they did Raqs)


9: Qadi Iyad [rah] said in [sarh sahih muslim pg 429 ] Al zabl hu wal raqs

So ijma of imams [rah] agreed its Raqs [dancing] what came from Sahih hadith including Imam Ahmed bin Hanbal [rah] who was a salaf himself


Hadith # 2


‘Ali ibn Abi Talib(ra) states:

حَدَّثَنَا ‏ ‏أَسْوَدُ يَعْنِي ابْنَ عَامِرٍ ‏ ‏أَنْبَأَنَا ‏ ‏إِسْرَائِيلُ ‏ ‏عَنْ ‏ ‏أَبِي إِسْحَاقَ ‏ ‏عَنْ ‏ ‏هَانِئِ بْنِ هَانِئٍ ‏ ‏عَنْ ‏ ‏عَلِيٍّ ‏ ‏رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ ‏ ‏قَالَ ‏أَتَيْتُ النَّبِيَّ ‏ ‏صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ ‏ ‏وَجَعْفَرٌ ‏ ‏وَزَيْدٌ ‏ ‏قَالَ ‏ ‏فَقَالَ ‏ ‏لِزَيْدٍ ‏ ‏أَنْتَ ‏ ‏ مَوْلَايَ ‏ ‏ فَحَجَلَ ‏ ‏قَالَ وَقَالَ ‏ ‏لِجَعْفَرٍ ‏ ‏أَنْتَ أَشْبَهْتَ خَلْقِي وَخُلُقِي قَالَ ‏ ‏ فَحَجَلَ ‏ ‏وَرَاءَ ‏ ‏زَيْدٍ ‏ ‏قَالَ وَقَالَ لِي أَنْتَ مِنِّي وَأَنَا مِنْكَ قَالَ ‏ ‏ فَحَجَلْتُ ‏ ‏وَرَاءَ ‏ ‏جَعْفَرٍ

Aswad narrated to us that Isra’il informed us from Abi Is-haaq from Haani ibn Haani’ from ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib that he said, “I visited the Prophet (Sallallahu ‘alayhi wa Sallam) with Ja’far [ibn Abī Tālib] and Zayd [ibn Harithah]. The Prophet (Sallallāhu ‘alayhi wa Sallam) said to Zayd, “You are my freedman (mawlā’i), whereupon Zayd began to Hajala (hop on one leg- a type of dancing) around the Prophet (Sallallāhu ‘alayhi wa Sallam). The Prophet (Sallallāhu ‘alayhi wa Sallam) then said to Ja’far: “You resemble me in my physical form and character” (Khalqī wa Khuluqī), whereupon Ja’far began to do the same behind Zayd. The Nabi (Sallallāhu ‘alayhi wa Sallam) then said to me, “You are a part of me and I am a part of you” (anta minnī wa anā mink) whereupon I began to do the same behind Ja’far.”

References

►This is reported by Imām Ahmad in his Musnad (1:537 #857)2.

► Ash-Shākir declared it authentic in his review of the Musnad.

► Al-Bazzār in his Musnad with a sound chain according to Imām Al-Haythamī in his Majma’ Az-Zawā’id (5:157).

►Also reported by Imām Al-Bayhaqī in his Sunan Al-Kubrā (8:6 #15548, 20816)

►as well as Ibn Abī Shaybah in his Musannaf.

►Ibn Sa’ad reported this in Mursal form in his Tabaqāt, 4:22.

Authenticity of Above Hadith

Regarding one narrator Hani bin Hani who some ignorants use to prove above hadith weak

Imam Dhahabi (rah) said in full in his Meezan,

هانئ بن هانئ عن على رضى الله عنه. قال ابن المدينى: مجهول. وقال النسائي: ليس به بأس. وذكره ابن حبان في الثقات

Translation: Hani bin Hani narrated from Ali (Radhi Allaho Anho). Ibn Mudayni said he is Majhool. Imam Nasai (rah) said:THERE IS NO HARM IN HIM” and Ibn Hibban mentioned him in his “THIQAAT (Reliable narrators)” [Mizan ul Aitidal (7/71)]


Imam Tirimdhi declared many ahadith from Hani bin Hani as “HASAN SAHIH” [SunnanTirimdhi Volume No.5, Hadith #3798]

Imam Ibn Majah (rah) narrated from him and did Sukoot [Sunnan Ibn Majah, Muqadma, Hadith # 143]

Imam Ibn Hibban mentioned him in his Kitab ul Thiqaat (5/508)

Muhadith Shaykh Ahmad Shaakir in his Tahqiq of Musnad Ahmad where he said: “Its chain is sound (إسناده صحيح)“ [Musnad Ahmad Volume 001, Page No. 537, Hadith Number 857, FN: 2]

Imam Ibn Hajr al Haythami (rah) said about ahadith having Hani bin Hani

ورجال أحمد والبزار رجال الصحيح غير هانىء بن هانىء وهو ثقة

Translation: The Rijaal of Ahmed and Bazaar are those of Sahih except Hani bin Hani who is “THIQA” [Majma az Zawaid (8/102)]

Imam Hakim declared ahadith from Hani bin Hani as “SAHIH” [Mustadrak al Hakim (3/179)]

Imam al Ajli (rah) said:

1885 ـ هانىء ابن هانىء، كوفي، تابعي ثقة.

Translation: Hani bin Hani, Kufi “TABI AND THIQA” [Thiqat al Ajli Volume No.1, Page No. 454]

Even famous and controversial Wahabi[salafi ] sheikh Nasir ud-din Albani declared ahadith from Hani bin Hani as “SAHIH” [Sahih Sunnan Ibn Majah by Albani, (1/119)



 
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The dancing of sufis in wajd,ecstacy or swoon in which a person loses control of his body in love of Allah swt in a mehfil of zikr, and wajd is unintentional , a person has no control on himself so whatever he does shariah allows it, as Sahabas (Ra) also went into it.

Although according to scholars of Sharfi fiqh and many others intentional dance having slight movements in love of Allah can be done too.According to Ahnaaf the movements should only be in a state of ecstasy and Wajd with are unintentional.

Now I will present proofs on Raqs first according to Authentic hadiths, Sahabas [ra] ,Salafs [ra] And classical scholars of Al Islam. Than Proofs on Wajd will be shown in details


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Wajd is of different forms and is only from Allah whoever Allah wills he blesses him with the kafiyat for a few secs, mins, even hours
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► Some people don't move at all or stand up but just sit quietly in wajd [their body,mind nothing is in their control ] , they sometimes shiver too , If one listens to Quran recitation he may experience it.
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► Some people may fall down to ground and go into a trance during wajd , they may shiver too.

Quran states about this type of wajd, Hadrat Musa [alehislam]

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YUSUFALI: When Moses came to the place appointed by Us, and his Lord addressed him, He said: "O my Lord! show (Thyself) to me, that I may look upon thee." Allah said: "By no means canst thou see Me (direct); But look upon the mount; if it abide in its place, then shalt thou see Me." When his Lord manifested His glory on the Mount, He made it as dust. And Moses fell down in a swoon. When he recovered his senses he said: "Glory be to Thee! to Thee I turn in repentance, and I am the first to believe."
(quran 7:143)
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Dictionary meaning of the word Swoon

:to enter a state of hysterical rapture or ecstasy http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/swoon
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► Some people experience a more intense form of Wajd in which they stand up, start moving ,running [which may seem like a dance]
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RECITATION AND SINGING WITH OR WITHOUT MUSIC
IN THE LIGHT OF QURAN AND AHADITH

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If someone tries to sum up the change in Arabs in the hands of Prophet Mohammad (SAWS), he will conclude that the Prophet (SAWS) cleansed their hearts and changed their mindset and made them good Muslims.


From their past traditions, what was allowed to be continued by Prophet Mohammad (SAWS)?During Prophet’s (SAWS) time, there were only two musical instruments, flute and tambourine and both these instruments were permitted.

Now a days many new musical instruments have been made. If someone uses them in singing, why can’t these be allowed?All Hadiths relating to prevention of Singing (Gina) have been proved to be ‘weak Ahadith’ by all Imams of Fiqh.
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At the time of the advent of Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) people who lived in Hijaz were mostly descendants of the followers of Prophet Ibrahim (AS) and Hazrat Ismail (AS).

The historians say that the period between Ibrahim (AS) and Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) was over 2000 years. During this period, people gradually deviated from the teachings of Prophet Ibrahim (AS) and though they believed in one God, they started worshiping idols of all kinds. Many of these idols were brought to Makka Al-Mukarrama from far off places where Arabs used to go for merchandise.
Some Arabs were also the followers of other prophets; like Hazrat Moosa (AS) and Hazrat Isa (AS) who were known as Jews and Christians respectively. In Islamic history, this period is known as ‘the days of illiteracy (Ayyam-e-Jahiliyyah).

What changes took place after the advent of Prophet Mohammad (SAWS)?

Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) brought the Arabs back to Islam; introduced worship of Allah (SWT) and showed them how to worship Him. Certain practices of Arabs, like killing of girl child, wine drinking, usury, etc., were forbidden. Few other things were not banned, but regularized as per Islamic laws. Like unlimited polygamy was stopped and people were allowed to marry a maximum of 4 women with certain conditions. Improvement on humanistic behavior was introduced which helped them to become sincere and good human beings.

If anyone tries to sum up the change in Arabs in the hands of Prophet Mohammad (SAWS), he will conclude that the Prophet (SAWS) cleansed their hearts and changed their mindset and made them good Muslims.


From their past traditions, what was allowed to be continued by Prophet Mohammad (SAWS)?


The day to day lives of Arabs mostly remained unchanged with the exclusion of certain areas where Islamic reforms were introduced. Their living, their eating habits, their clothing, their cultural traditions, their practice of doing business, and many more things continued, rather Islamic rules further improved their living conditions.
For instances they were not required to change their names. They were allowed to continue with their wives and children. They were allowed to live in their own houses and encouraged to continue their businesses/agriculture as usual, except that usury was prohibited.

There were hundreds of tribes of Arabs living in Arabian Peninsula and Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) did not force them to change anything except certain areas where Islamic reforms were introduced.

Arab tribes had different accent in their colloquial Arabic. They were allowed to recite Quran in their own accent. But these recitals did not have any bearing on the understanding of the Quran. These recitals were later known as ‘seven recitals’ and ten recitals. Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) did not force them to use the accent of Quraish in reading Quran. In all these recitals, Hazrat Hafs (RU) recital was very close to the accent of Quraish.

Singing as a show happiness was wide spread in Prophet’s (SAWS) time. Certain cultural traditional dances remained unchanged. In a nutshell, Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) did not touch the cultural life of Arabs except in certain areas where Islamic values were introduced.


Islam is a versatile and happening religion. It is meant for the people of the whole world until the day of Resurrection. The cultural values of people of the whole world can be accommodated within the parameters of Islam. Islam has taught people certain basic requirements in their lives. These have to be as per the basic laws of Islam as taught by Prophet Mohammad (SAWS). Islam does not impose anything against the basic nature of human beings. It reforms their nature and facilitates them to become good human beings.

It is in Quran‘O’ people of belief, do not consider forbidden those good things that Allah (SWT) has allowed. (Al-Maa’ida – 87).


It is in HadithIt is narrated by Hazrat Abu Huraira (RU) that the Apostle (SAWS) said, ‘one who does not recite Quran with rich (vocal) recitation, is not among us. (Bukhari and Muslim).

It is in Hadith - It is narrated by Hazrat Abu Huraira (RU) that the Apostle (SAWS) said Allah (SWT) does not listen to anything the way He listens to the loud vocal recital of Quran by the melodious voice of the Prophet (SAWS). (Bukhari and Muslim).


Writing of poetry and its recitation was allowed by Prophet Mohammad (SAWS).

It is in Hadith -
It is narrated by Hazrat Buraida (RU) that I heard Prophet (SAWS) saying, some (couplet) is convincing speech, some are ignorant talk, and some couplet is wisdom and some are narrow mindedness’(Abu Dawood).


Writing of Na’at (Eulogy of Prophet Mohammad –SAWS) and its recitation was very much liked by the Prophet (SAWS).

It is in Hadith - The mother of believers, Hazrata Aisha (RA) narrated that the Prophet (SAWS) used to keep a Pulpit ( stand ) at the Prophet’s (SAWS) mosque for Hazrat Hassaan Bin Saabith (RU), and Hazrat Hassaan (RU) used to climb over it and used to express pride for, and defend Prophet (SAWS) (meaning he used to recite Na’at) and the Prophet (SAWS) used to say that Allah (SWT) supports Hassaan from Hazrat Jibreel (AS) as long as he expresses pride for and defends the Apostel (SAWS). (Bukhari).


Playing of tambourine (Daf) and flute and dancing in joy was allowed and liked by Prophet Mohammad (SAWS).

It is in Hadith –
Hazrata Aisha (RA) has narrated that the Apostel(SAWS) said that ‘make announcement for the marriage ceremony and perform the ceremony at mosque and play on the tambourine (Daf).(Tirmizi).

It is in Hadith –
It is narrated by Hazrat Mohammad Bin Haatib (RU), and he narrates it from Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) who said that the difference between lawful (halaal) and unlawful (Haraam) is that in marriages singing and drum beating is performed. (Ahmad, Tirmizi, Nasa’ee and Ibnu Maaja).

It is in Hadith –
Hazrata Aisha (RA) narrates that when one Ansari’s bride was sent to her groom’s house in her bridal attire, the Prophet (SAWS) said that ‘Don’t you have some play and fun because the Ansar’s like fun’. (Bukhari).

It is in Hadith –
It is narrated by Hazrata Aisha (RA), she said ‘I swear to Allah (SWT), I saw the Prophet (SAWS), and the Habashis (a tribe of Madina) are playing (dancing) with spears and the Prophet (SAWS) hides me with his coverlet so that I could see their play from between his ear and shoulder. Then he stays for me until I myself will return back’. (Bukhari and Muslim).

It is in Hadith –
It is narrated by Hazrat Abu Moosa (RU) that the Prophet (SAWS) said, O’Moosa, you have been given a flute of the people of Dawood (AS). (Tirmizi).

It is in Hadith –
Hazrata Aisha (RA) narrates that Hazrat Abu Bakr (RU) came to our home when two girls were clapping and playing on the tambourine (Daf) during ‘Mana’, and in another narration (the girls were) singing such couplets which were recited by Ansaars during the war of Ba’as. When Hazrat Abu Bakr (RU) chided these girls, the Prophet (SAWS) took out the (bed) sheet from his face and said O’Abu Bakr (RU), leave them, as this is festival time. And in one narration (it is said) O’ Abu Bakr (RU), every nation has festival and this is our festival.’(Bukhari and Muslim).


During Prophet’s (SAWS) time, there were only two musical instruments, flute and tambourine and both these instruments were permitted.

Now a days many new musical instruments have been made. If someone uses them in singing, why can’t these be allowed?

However, if someone is singing something which explains physical beauty of a woman or describes polytheism and infidelity or idolatery, its recital and singing is senseless, waste of time and will be considered as sin.
Similarly, singing and dancing of young men and women together on stages cannot be allowed.


Every aspect of human activity has positive and negative features. Islam disallowed negative features and allowed the positive side.

Fornication and infidelity is not allowed. But you can have legal marital bliss.Singing, music and dancing which leads people towards sin cannot be allowed. But if someone recites the eulogy of Prophet Mohammad (SAWS), meaning recites Na'at, with musical instruments, how can it be disallowed?

If someone sings in praise of his parents because they have supported him in his life, how can we disallow it?

If someone sings in praise of his teacher for his services, how can it be disallowed?

If someone recites a poetry in praise of his Shaikh who taught him Arabic, Quran and Hadith, how can this be disallowed?

If someone sings, dances and plays musical instruments in times of joys, festivals, marriages, how can it be disallowed?

If someone arranges ‘Sama’ gatherings and recital of poetry in praise of Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) and As-hab-e-Rasulullah (SAWS) and legendary Shaikhs of Ihsan and uses musical instruments, this will be treated as Sunnah because Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) has allowed and liked it.

Muhammad ibn Ahmad al-Saffarini al-Hanbali (d. 1188) relates in his Ghidha' al-albab li-sharh manzumat al-adab from Ibrahim ibn `Abd Allah al-Qalanasi that Imam Ahmad said about the Sufis: "I don't know people better than them." Someone said to him: "They listen to music and they reach states of ecstasy (Meaning they do Wajd)." He said: "Do you prevent them from enjoying an hour with Allah (SWT)?"

If people recite Salam and Durood in chorus with music on Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) it will be treated as Sunnah because Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) and Allah (SWT) both like it.

The tradition of hearing of vocal music is also proved from companions of Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) and their first and second generation followers. Read the following 15 Ahadith.



  • It is narrated by Ibne Abdul Bar that Hazrat Omer (RU) heard vocal music.
  • It is narrated by Madarvi and Rafa’ee that Hazrat Osman (RU) heard vocal music.
  • It is narrated by Ibn Abi Shaibah that Hazrat Abdul Rahman Bin Auf (RU) heard vocal music.
  • It is narrated by Baihaqi, Ibn Maaja, Sa’eed Bin Mansour and Wahidi that Hazrat Abu Obaidah bin Jarrah (RU) heard music.
  • It is narrated by Baihaqi that Hazrat Bilal (RU), Hazrat Abd bin Arqam (RU) and Hazrat Osama Bin Zaid (RU) heard it.
  • It is narrated by Ibn Zaher that Hazrat Hamza (RU) heard it.
  • It is narrated by Abu Nayeem that Hazrat Barra bin Malik heard it.
  • It is narrated by Ibn Abdul Bar that Hazrat Abdullah Bin Jaber (RU) heard it.
  • It is narrated by Abu Talib Makki that Hazrat Abdullah Bin Zubair (RU) heart it.
  • It is narrated by Abu Tafra Asbahani that Hazrat Hassaan Bin Saabith (RU) heard it.
  • It is narrated by Zubain bin Akkar that Hazrat Abdullah bin Omer (RU) heard it.
  • It is narrated by Ibn Qutbla that Hazrat Hazrat Qurazta bin Ka’ab heard it.
  • It is narrated by Bukhari that Hazrata Aisha (RA) heard it.
  • It is narrated by Abu Talib Makki that Hazrat Mugaira bin Sha’aba (RU) heard it.
  • It is narrated by Madravi that Hazrat Umroo bin Aass (RU) heard it.

The listeners of Audition (singing/recital with music) are numerous in Prophet’s (SAWS) time and later among his companions and their second generation ta’aba’een (known as Salaf).

All 4 Imams of Fiqh and Ibn Ainia and Sha’afais have supported this school of thought.


All Hadiths relating to prevention of Singing (Gina) have been proved to be ‘weak hadiths’ by all Imams of fiqh.

Some misguided people and their like minded groups always mention a Hadith in which it is mentioned that ‘wine, fornication, silky wear and singing are not allowed’.

It is obvious, the singing will be judged as per the assembly of people and what they are singing. But, how can someone imposes this Hadith on the recitation of Na’at of the Prophet (SAWS) which was liked by him very much?

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If anyone denies authentic Prophet's (SAWS) Ahadith, he will go out of Islam as an arrow goes out of the bow.
If someone accepts the claim of some misguided sects., we will be in great trouble on the Day of Judgment. Let us be careful about it.

Recitation of Salam, Sama, Eulogy of all venerable people of religion with or without Music is allowed in Islam, because the Prophet (SAWS) and Sahaba have allowed it.

To do Wajd, or stand or cry slowly or loudly in Sama gatherings on couplets of eulogy on Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) is Sunnah. Allah (SWT) and His Apostle (SAWS) feel happy about it. All these actions are proved by the traditions of the companions of Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) and their followers.What kind of following of Salaf is this?

The misguided people and their like minded groups say that they follow the Salaf ( the companions of Prophet Mohammad – SAWS and their first generation followers – ta’aba’een ), but in practice they do exactly the opposite of it.

It is in Quran –
O’people of belief, do not consider forbidden those good things that Allah (SWT) has allowed. (Al-Maa’ida – 87).

Some misguided people have the habit of imposing
Quranic verses and Ahadith meant for disbelievers, on Muslims in order to misrepresent Islam on the gullible people. Innocent people get carried away by their utterances and get mislead. They do not realize that by their actions, they may get some worldly benefits or may be leadership of the community, but what will happen in Hereafter should be a matter of concern for them.


Mr Fakir/ Sufi

I think it would be much better if you open your eyes, heart and mind to the Quranic verses and Ahadess which you have mentioned. Don’t twist its meaning to fit them according to the explanations by you buzargs and Sufis. Any sensible person who has mind can understand what is the difference between singing (qawalee and other shitani amal) and recitation of Quran?
 

Cheeko

Minister (2k+ posts)
Imam Baihaqi (rah) proves Raqs from this hadith

Shaykh ul Islam Ibn Hajr Haythami (rah) said: “All narrators are those of Sahih (رجاله رجال الصحيح)“ [Majma’ Az-Zawa’id, Volume 005, Page No. 157]


Imam Bayhaqi made a whole chapter on permissibility of Raqs and after citing this hadith he said: In this (hadith) is“SAHIH PROOF” and "PERMISSIBILITY" of hoping (dancing) which includes “RISING UP OR JUMPING IN STATE OF JOY” and also that of doing “RAQS” which is similar to it [Sunnan al Baihaqi al Kubra (15/333)]

Imam Bayhaqi also states
in Shu’yb ul Imaan:

وأما الرقص فإن لم يكن فيه تكسر وتخنث فلا بأس فإنه روي أن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
قال لزيد أنت مولانا فحجل وهو أن يرفع رجلا ويقفز إلى الأخرى من

الفرح وقال لجعفر أشبهت خلقي وخلقي فحجل

Translation: As regarding “Raqs” If it does not include going wild and one does not act like the women then “THERE IS NO HARM IN IT” as the Prophet (Peace be upon him) said to Zayd (ra): You are my freedman (anta Mawlay), at this Zayd began to hop on one leg (hajala) around the Prophet (Peace be upon him), and he did this in joy, then the Prophet (Peace be upon him) said to Jafar (ra): You resemble me in my creation and my manners, at this Jafar also began to hop behind Zayd [Shu’yb ul Imaan, Volume No.4, Page No. 483-484]




Imam Ibn Hajar Asqalani (rah) said
: “Yes! Verily Ja’far ibn Abi Taalib Radhiya Allahu ‘Anhu did raqsin the presence of Rasulullah when he told Ja’far ‘You resemble me in my created form and in my character.’ It would have been necessary for the Nabi (alayhis salaam) to clarify whether it was halaal or haraam, yet the Nabi (’alayhis salaam) did not reject it. This is known in Mustalah Al-Hadith as “Iqraar“, or the acceptance and approval of the Prophet Muhammad . And the Nabi (’alayhis salaam) would not have remained silent regarding the Haraam (forbidden) or the Makruh (hated).”

Reference


Shaykh Yusuf Khattaar Muhammad references As-Suyuti’s quote from As-Sayf Al-Qaati’ and also Al-Ilhamaat Al-Ilhiyah of Shaykh Mahmuh Abi Shaamaat; See the Maws’uah page 185 published in Damascus in 1999, third edition

Imam Jalal ud din Suyuti [rah]
proves Raqs [dancing] in Love of Allah from Quran and Hadiths

وكيف ينكر الذكر قائما والقيام ذاكرا وقد قال الله تعالى (الذين يذكرون الله قياما وقعودا وعلى جنوبهم) وقالت عائشة رضي الله عنها كان النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم يذكر الله على كل أحيانه، وإن انضم إلى هذا القيام رقص أو نحوه فلا إنكار عليهم فذلك من لذات الشهود أو المواجيد وقد ورد في الحديث رقص جعفر بن أبي طالب بين يدي النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم لما قال له أشبهت خلقي وخلقي وذلك من لذة هذا الخطاب ولم ينكر ذلك عليه النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم فكان هذا أصلا في رقص الصوفية لما يدركونه من لذات المواجيد وقد صح القيام والرقص في مجالس الذكر والسماع عن جماعة من كبار الأئمة منهم شيخ الإسلام عز الدين بن عبد السلام.

“How can one condemn making dhikr while standing, or standing while making dhikr, when Allah says, “. . . those who invoke Allah standing, sitting, and upon their sides” Qur’an 3:191. And Hazrat A`isha Siddiqa (RA) said,‘ The Prophet (SAW) used to invoke Allah at all of his times.’ Sahih Muslim, 1.282: 373 And if dancing is added to this standing, it may not be condemned, as it is of the joy of spiritual vision and ecstasy, and It is mentioned in the hadith that Ja`far ibn Abi Talib (RA) danced in front of the Prophet (Ssalallaho alaihi wasalam) when the Prophet (Salallaho alaihi wasalam) told him, ‘You resemble me in looks and in character,’ dancing from the happiness he felt from being thus addressed, and the Prophet did not condemn him for doing so, this being a basis for the legal acceptability of the Sufis dancing from the joys of the ecstasies they experience. ..Hence it is correct to stand and dance during gatherings of Dhikr and Sama according to a group of great scholars, among them being Shaykh al- Islam Izz ud-din bin Abdus Salam.”[Imam Jalal ud din Suyuti in Al-Hawi lil Fatawi, Volume No. 2, Page No. 406, Maktaba al Asriyyah Edition].

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Imam Ghazali (rah) in His Ihya reported Same hadith an supported Raqs too


He [rah] states in his Ihya uloom ud din , vol 2, Pg 179

لأدب الرابع‏:‏ أن لا يقوم ولا يرفع صوته بالبكاء وهو يقدر على ضبط نفسه ولكن إن رقص أو تباكى فهو مباح فيجوز تحريكه‏.‏
ولو كان ذلك حراماً لما نظرت عائشة رضي الله عنها إلى الحبشة مع رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم وهم يزفنون هذا لفظ عائشة رضي الله عنها في بعض الروايات‏.‏
وقد روي عن جماعة من الصحابة رضي الله عنهم أنهم حجلوا لما ورد عليهم سرور أوجب ذلك وذلك في قصة ابنة حمزة لما اختصم فيها على بن أبي طالب وأخوه جعفر وزيد بن حارثة رضي الله عنهم فتشاحوا في تربيتها فقال صلى الله عليه وسلم لعلي ‏”‏ أنت مني وأنا منك ‏”‏ فحجل علي وقال لجعفر ‏”‏ أشبهت خلقي وخلقي ‏”‏ فحجل وراء حجل علي وقال لزيد ‏”‏ أنت أخوناً ومولانا ‏”‏ فحجل زيد وراء حجل جعفر ثم قال عليه السلام ‏”‏ هي لجعفر لأن خالتها تحته والخالة والدة ‏”‏ وفي رواية أنه قال لعائشة رضي الله عنها ‏”‏ أتحبين أن تنظري إلى زفن الحبشة ‏”‏ والزفن والحجل هو الرقص

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Imam Ibn Hajar Al-Haytami said

وقد صحَّ القيامُ والرقصُ في مجالس الذكر والسماع عن جماعة من كبار الأئمة منهم عزّ الدين شيخ الإسلام ابن عبد السلام
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"It is permissible to stand and dance during gatherings of remembrance and audition according to a group of great scholars, among them being Shaykh Al-Islam Ibn Abdussalam." (فتاويه الحديثية pg. 298 )

Regarding Shaikh Izz Ad din it states:

"kana yahduru al sama` wa yarqusu wa yatawajadu"

meaning:

" (He) attended the sama` and danced in states of ecstasy"

This is reported by Nabahani in his Jami Karamat Al Awliya
 

Cheeko

Minister (2k+ posts)
Views of Ibn Kathir
ابن زين الدين علي بن تبكتكين أحد الأجواد والسادات الكبراء والملوك الأمجاد، له آثار حسنة وقد عمر الجامع المظفري بسفح قاسيون، وكان قدهم بسياقه الماء إليه من ماء بذيرة فمنعه المعظم من ذلك، واعتل بأنه قد يمر على مقابر المسلمين بالسفوح، وكان يعمل المولد الشريف في ربيع الأول ويحتفل به احتفالا هائلا.
وكان مع ذلك شهما شجاعا فاتكا بطلا عاقلا عالما عادلا رحمه الله وأكرم مثواه.
وقد صنف الشيخ أبو الخطاب ابن دحية له مجلدا في المولد النبوي سماه: (التنوير في مولد البشير النذير)، فأجازه على ذلك بألف دينار، وقد طالت مدته في الملك في زمان الدولة الصلاحية، وقد كان محاصر عكا وإلى هذه السنة محمود السيرة والسريرة.
قال السبط: حكى بعض من حضر سماط المظفر في بعض الموالد كان يمد في ذلك السماط خمسة آلاف رأس مشوي، وعشرة آلاف دجاجة، ومائة ألف زبدية، وثلاثين ألف صحن حلوى، قال: وكان يحضر عنده في المولد أعيان العلماء والصوفية فيخلع عليهم ويطلق لهم ويعمل للصوفية سماعا من الظهر إلى الفجر، ويرقص بنفسه معهم، وكانت له دار ضيافة للوافدين من أي جهة على أي صفة، وكانت صدقاته في جميع القرب والطاعات على الحرمين وغيرهما، ويتفك من الفرنج في كل سنة خلقا من الأسارى.
حتى قيل إن جملة من استفكه من أيديهم ستون ألف أسير، قالت: زوجته ربيعة خاتون بنت أيوب - وكان قد زوجه إياها أخوها صلاح الدين، لما كان معه على عكا - قالت: كان قميصه لا يساوي خمسة دراهم فعاتبته بذلك فقال: لبسي ثوبا بخمسة وأتصدق بالباقي خير من أن البس ثوبا مثمنا وأدع الفقير المسكين، وكان يصرف على المولد في كل سنة ثلاثمائة ألف دينار، وعلى دار الضيافة في كل سنة مائة ألف دينار.
وعلى الحرمين والمياه بدرب الحجاز ثلاثين ألف دينار سوى صدقات السر، رحمه الله تعالى، وكانت وفاته بقلعة إربل، وأوصى أن يحمل إلى مكة فلم يتفق فدفن بمشهد علي.
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Translation :
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I say that the Shah of Irbil. Malik Muzzafar Abu Sa’ed Kokabri Ibn Zayn-ud-din Ali bin Tabaktakin was a "GENEROUS, MIGHTY MASTER AND UPRIGHT RULER AND HIS WORKS WERE VERY GOOD" . He built Jamiya al Muzaffari near Qasiyun…الشريف في ربيع الاول ويحتفل به احتفا



"CELEBRATE MAWLID ASH-SHARIF WITH GREAT CELEBRATION (وكان يعمل المولد الشريف في ربيع الاول ويحتفل به احتفالا )" Moreover, he was "BENEVOLENT, BRAVE, WISE, A SCHOLAR AND JUST PERSON" – Rahimuhullah wal Ikraam
– Sheikh Abul Khattab (rah) wrote a book on Mawlid an Nabwi for him and named it At-Tanwir fi Mawlid al Bashir al Nazeer, for which he gave him 1000 dinars. His rule stayed till the Rule of Salahiya and he captured Aka and he remained a man worthy of respect. Al-Sabt mentions that a person attending the gathering of Mawlid held by Muzzafar said: He used to fill the table with 5000 well cooked goats, 10,000 *****ens, 100-thousand bowls (of milk) and 30,000 trays of sweets.

The narrator explains that During Mawlid he used to hold great gathering of "SUFIS AND ULAMA AND HE USED TO GRANT THEM GIFTS": He used to arrange Sama for Sufis from Dhuhr till Asr IN WHICH HE HIMSELF DID RAQS. and he had built a Dar ul Ziafat for everyone who came no matter what position the person held, and he used to give sadaqat for Haramain Shareefain and also used to get many prisoners free from Farangis (i.e. white people probably Christians/Jews), It is said that he got 60,000 prisoners free from them.

His wife Rabiya bint Ayyub "WHO WAS MARRIED TO HIM BY HER BROTHER SALAH UD-DIN AYYUBI (Rahimuhullah), she says that his shirt was not even worth 5 Dirhams, so she complained to him about it at which he replied: For me to wear shirt of 5 Dirhams only and give remaining as Sadaqa is better than wearing expensive clothes or to leave the Fuqara and Masakeen. He used to spend Three hundred thousand Dinaar on Mawlid every year, Hundred thousand Dinar on welcoming guests, and 30,000 dinars to provide water for Pilgrims on travel – Rahimuhullah -
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[Imam al Hafidh Ibn Kathir in Al Bidayah Wal Nihayah, Volume No.13, Page Nos. 174-175]


 

Cheeko

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Now on issue of Wajd, Ecstasy , Swoon

Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal(ra) said about the Sufis Ecstasy


He said "I don't know people better than them." Someone said to him: "They listen to sama and they reach states of ecstasy." He said: " Do you prevent them from enjoying an hour with Allah?"

Reference :


[From Muhammad ibn Ahmad al-Saffarini al-Hanbali (died 1188) who related in his Ghidha' al-albab li-sharh manzumat al-adab from Ibrahim ibn `Abd Allah al-Qalanasi) (Cairo: Matba`at al-Najah, 1324/1906)]



Imam Ghazali [rah]
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Imam Ibn e Arabi on wajd/ecstasy


In his book kitabb al wajd (luma 306.4-308.2) ,Janayd and sari al saqati( in d.253/867) explain that wajd can produce insensitivity towards pain to such an extent that a person can be struct by sword but not feel its effect

Imam Abu'l Husayn al-warraq (rah)

Said that The way to God is difficult for one who does not come upon it with overwhelming enthusiasm (Wajd) and passionate desire.

Abu Hamza al khurasani [rah]

Said that HE heard his companions censuring another for being overcome by wajd ,and showing his inner state in a gathering where there were opponents of sama.Abu hamza (Rah) told him to stop his scolding for wajd obliterate distinctions,one should not be censured for being over come by wajd which is involuntary act, Then he quoted the verses from books of Moulana Rumi (rah) (d.283/896)

Abu abd Allah al subayhi [rah]

said When wajd is genuine it should be upheld and defended, no one should be allowed to speak disparagingly of an altered state(hal)
He again said " The most complete form of fear is the one which takes characteristics of wajd, not from loss of some thing hoped for or desired

Imam Al kattani [rah]

said that the listener of sama ought to find more than just refershment,it causes wajd ,or being over whlemed, which destroys every settled and familiar nothing

Abu Ali ad daqqaq [rah] said

that Abu l Husayn An Nuri (Rah) writes
For 20 years I was between wajd and faqd,when I found my lord I lost my heart and when I found my heart I lost my lord

Imam Siraaj [rah] in his kitab ul luma

writes and gives authentic proofs of Prophet (Saw) and Sahabis (ra) going into wajd state several times, on hearing Quran

The great classical scholar Hadrat Ibn e Arabi [rah]

Says :Wajd is the states that come upon the heart,unexpectedly, and annihilate it from witnessing itself and those present ( kitab al wajd in luma p 309)

Sulami stated that Imam Junayd(rah)
said,

"Nearness through ecstasy (wajd) is 'in-gathering' (jam');
and absence through humanness is separation (tafriqah)."

 
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