Strange Reply of Junaid Jamshed to Khwaja Asif!

Bilal Hamed

Councller (250+ posts)
I only felt that he was wrong to mention Shahbaz's name. Otherwise, what he clarified is that he has not joined PTI, because that's how it was put to him by the girl. He said he is completely in agreement with the demands and agenda of IK.

I twitted him this morning, about Shahbaz.



Brother when will you start using bigger fonts ? Ya we will have to keep suffering this way ?
 
This is a good post. We have to split it into three sections in order to understand it. These are.
1- Role of Junaid Jamshed in the current scenario.
2- Role of other religious parties in the current scenario.

To understand the role of Junaid Jamshed, we have to understand the structure of Tableegi Jamat. Tableegi Jamat works on a principle that they will not support any political party. They work to bring religion (Deen) of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) into the lives of every Muslim and do not show their intentions towards any political party. I think Junaid Jamshed done a brilliant role here. He went to his full extent to support Imran Khan by remaining within the boundaries of Tableegi Jamat. He also sung a song "Neya Pakistan". I think he gave a message to people of Pakistan that he is with us. He also said that we discussed among ourselves and concluded that we should support Imran Khan, so people around him like Maulana Tariq Jameel, Saeen Anwar etc. may have a similar opinion but can not support openly due to structure and boundary limits of Tableegi Jamat which is a good thing that they follow rules and regulations of their Jamat.
Second thing is the role of all other religious parties in this scenario. We should go back to the time of creation of Pakistan. When Quaid-e-Azam asked for thier support to make new Pakistan. They not only refused to support rather opposed to the full extent. There were great Islamic scholars at that time. Now the nation did not forget that they failed to deliver at a critical time. They should ask a question from themselves that why ALLAH TALLAH took the Hikmat about the creation of Pakistan from their hearts even though they were great scholars. Now when the nation again in a critical situation to make Neya Pakistan. They again getting fail to deliver. I believe we will make new Pakistan no matter what because it is in our destiny. But they should sit and think, is it really the case that ALMIGHT ALLAH does not want their participation again in new Pakistan. If yes then why. They have to find the answer. Other wise this DAAG will always remain with them that they failed once in the creation of Pakistan and they failed again in the creation of New Pakistan.
They can say we do not know if Imran khan is the same person who will take us to the destination then where is your vision. Momin sees from the Noor of ALMIGHT. We know that Quaid-e-Azam once said that Kashmeer is the Shahrag of Pakistan. Now we know when India is releasing the water and every year we are experiencing the flood. Yes Quaid-e-Azam was Momin and he was with the Noor of ALLAH and took a clear stance and lead the nation from the front. If they are in doubt about Imran Khan whether he is the right person or not then where is their Noor.
I think they should take a clear stance, otherwise I fear that they once again will fail to deliver.
In conclusion, I think Junaid Jamshed has done a great job by remaining within his boundaries. May ALLAH bless him with more Rehmat.
I hope this will remove your confusion to some extent.
 

Shareef

Minister (2k+ posts)
This is what Tableeghi Jamaat think that if we reform every single person in the society, the system would be reformed. However, the example of Prophet SAW tells us that you first reform individuals and when you have enough reformed individuals you take over the system and then head the system and reform it.

Qadri has only brought 40,000 people to Islamabad, where as every single year, the Tableeghi Ijtamah has 18 lac people in Raiwand. If one day these 18 lac people decide to hold an ijtimah in front of parliament, they could literally drown the parliament in their piss.

Unfortunately the desired reformation is not seen anywhere. I've seen people returning from 4 months tableegh and immediately resorting to taking bribes, hoarding, adulteration of foodstuff etc to name a few social vices. In one case a student after returning from 40 days tableeghi course was caught cheating in the exams. When the examiner asked him that despite being on tableegh for 40 days why is he still cheating, The student boldly answered that "cheating is not a sin".
 
This is a good post. We have to split it into three sections in order to understand it. These are.
1- Role of Junaid Jamshed in the current scenario.
2- Role of other religious parties in the current scenario.

To understand the role of Junaid Jamshed, we have to understand the structure of Tableegi Jamat. Tableegi Jamat works on a principle that they will not support any political party. They work to bring religion (Deen) of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) into the lives of every Muslim and do not show their intentions towards any political party. I think Junaid Jamshed done a brilliant role here. He went to his full extent to support Imran Khan by remaining within the boundaries of Tableegi Jamat. He also sung a song "Neya Pakistan". I think he gave a message to people of Pakistan that he is with us. He also said that we discussed among ourselves and concluded that we should support Imran Khan, so people around him like Maulana Tariq Jameel, Saeen Anwar etc. may have a similar opinion but can not support openly due to structure and boundary limits of Tableegi Jamat which is a good thing that they follow rules and regulations of their Jamat.
Second thing is the role of all other religious parties in this scenario. We should go back to the time of creation of Pakistan. When Quaid-e-Azam asked for thier support to make new Pakistan. They not only refused to support rather opposed to the full extent. There were great Islamic scholars at that time. Now the nation did not forget that they failed to deliver at a critical time. They should ask a question from themselves that why ALLAH TALLAH took the Hikmat about the creation of Pakistan from their hearts even though they were great scholars. Now when the nation again in a critical situation to make Neya Pakistan. They again getting fail to deliver. I believe we will make new Pakistan no matter what because it is in our destiny. But they should sit and think, is it really the case that ALMIGHT ALLAH does not want their participation again in new Pakistan. If yes then why. They have to find the answer. Other wise this DAAG will always remain with them that they failed once in the creation of Pakistan and they failed again in the creation of New Pakistan.
They can say we do not know if Imran khan is the same person who will take us to the destination then where is your vision. Momin sees from the Noor of ALMIGHT. We know that Quaid-e-Azam once said that Kashmeer is the Shahrag of Pakistan. Now we know when India is releasing the water and every year we are experiencing the flood. Yes Quaid-e-Azam was Momin and he was with the Noor of ALLAH and took a clear stance and lead the nation from the front. If they are in doubt about Imran Khan whether he is the right person or not then where is their Noor.
I think they should take a clear stance, otherwise I fear that they once again will fail to deliver.
In conclusion, I think Junaid Jamshed has done a great job by remaining within his boundaries. May ALLAH bless him with more Rehmat.
I hope this will remove your confusion to some extent.
 

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او بھائی کیوں لوگوں اور نسلوں کی نسلوں کی زندگیاں اور مستقبل تباہ کر رہے ہو۔ صدی سے اوپر ہو گئی ۔ یہ بالکل باطل اور جھوٹ اور فریب اور دھوکہ ہے اور قوم کو تباہی خانقاہی کی طرف لے جانے والی گمرائی۔ نیبیﷺ کائنات کے بگڑے ہوئی قوم کو لیڈر شیپ دی سب کو ٹھیک کر کے اسلام کی دعوت نہیں دی بلکہ آپنا آپ پیش کیا اور سب اس کو فلو کرتے چلے گئے اگر سب ٹھیک ہی جائیں سب گناہ سے توبہ کرلیں پھر تو کسی لیڈرشیپ کی ضرورت ہی کیا ہے اور سب کچھ اچھا اچھا ہو لیڈر شیپ کرے گی پھر کیا؟؟
دوسرا دھوکہ جب سب ٹھیک ہو جائیں گے تو خود بخود اسلام آ جائے گا۔ سب کبھی بھی ٹھیک نہیں ہو سکتے یہ آج تک انسانی تاریخ میں کبھی بھی نہیں ہوا اور کبھی بھی نہیں ہو سکتا اسلام کے عروج اور بتہرین دور میں کیا لوگ چوری نہیں کرتے تھے ناحق قتل کوئی نہیں ہوا زنا کے کیسز نہیں ہوئے لین دین میں دھوکہ دہی جیسے کیسز نہیں ہوئے ؟؟ یہ سب کچھ انسانی معاشروں کا المیہ ہے لیکن جزا اور سزا کا قانون انصاف تب ہی ہو گا جب کوئی ناانصافی کرے گے اگر ناانصافی نہ ہو تو انصاف کا وجود ہی نہ ہو لوگ اس سے واقف ہی نہ ہوتے ۔ سمجھو بھائی آنکھیں بند کر کے کبھی بھی کسی لکیر پر مت چلو

This is what Tableeghi Jamaat think that if we reform every single person in the society, the system would be reformed. However, the example of Prophet SAW tells us that you first reform individuals and when you have enough reformed individuals you take over the system and then head the system and reform it.

Qadri has only brought 40,000 people to Islamabad, where as every single year, the Tableeghi Ijtamah has 18 lac people in Raiwand. If one day these 18 lac people decide to hold an ijtimah in front of parliament, they could literally drown the parliament in their piss.
 

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حکمت اور منافقت میں زمین اور آسمان کا فرق ہوتا ہے۔ لیکن اس کو اتنا گڈھ مڈ کر دیا گیا ہے کہ دونوں آجکل کی تاریخ میں ایک جیسی ہی چیز کا نام ہے
 

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