Pakistan replaces US with China as its principal arms supplier

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
ISLAMABAD – Pakistan is beefing up its arsenal of long-range missiles by embracing China as its new strategic arms partner and backing away from the US, analysts have told Fox News.
Pakistan earlier this month test-fired a nuclear-capable missile from an undisclosed location – the second in a month of try-outs for its short-range surface-to-surface Hatf 2 class rocket, co-developed with the Chinese. It was the latest in a series of arms collaborations between the two nations, which view their strategic partnership as a counterweight to a boldly confident India, which has American support. Until the mid-1960s, the United States was the principal supplier of weapons to Pakistan, the world’s eighth most-powerful nuclear nation. But the US began to back away from the relationship after years of difficult and sometimes unpredictable relations following the 9/11 attacks. The US no longer fully supports the military ambitions of a Pakistan that is being destabilised by an insurgency it cannot control, rising radicalism and anti-Westernism, and a government considered by some too weak and corrupt. That led Pakistan to replace the US with China as a main source of defence material, at least in terms of arsenals, development and training.
“China is perceived as not coming with nearly as many strings attached as relations with the United States,” said Nate Hughes, director of military analysis at Stratfor, an intelligence website run by former CIA operatives. This was starkly marked in November when on the same day the US delivered some of the 18 F-16s it had pledged to Pakistan, Islamabad announced it had ordered an arsenal of SD10 mid-range homing missiles and radar systems to equip its JF-17 Thunder jet fighters from China.
More is on the way. China is scheduled to send Pakistan 250 JF-17s over the next five to 10 years, a $1.3b deal to buy J-10 fighters and a recent order for six submarines, all advanced under-sea vessels with an air independent propulsion system. A Pakistani government official was recently quoted as saying it was vital for the navy to acquire more submarines to offset ‘the pressure we will definitely come under’ due to the rapid expansion of India’s naval capability. “Our Chinese brothers have always come to our help and we are asking them for assistance once again,” he said. Earlier this month, China formally began the construction of two state-of-the-art fast-attack missile crafts for the Pakistan Navy, in addition to eight F22P war frigates it ordered from Beijing back in 2005. Although the value of these contracts are kept a tight secret, some want to know how Pakistan can commit such enormous resources to defence spending. “While President Asif Zardari travels to China every six months and signs one memorandum of understanding after another, he has committed way too much than he can deliver. There are too many kickbacks for contracts,” said Maria Sultan, the director general for the South Asia Strategic Stability Institute in Islamabad. “You have to look at the long-term viability of these loans and look at what Pakistan can pay in 5, 10, 15 years. A lot of loans are forgiven with China not asking for Pakistan to return the capital after paying interest,” said Sultan. But there may be issues in the Pakistani-China relationship. “Pakistan and China have problems understanding each other’s mindset,” said Sultan. “Pakistan had difficulty in applying to the Chinese the hardcore approach to business that it had experienced the United States at the start. That’s not the approach with the Chinese, which is a personal approach built over time through friendships and gradual trust building. China delivers in 15 years what the US can in four years.”

 

Salik

Senator (1k+ posts)
This decision should have been taken decades ago....
دیر آید درست آید۔۔۔
Pakistan should definitely get rid of its F16 squad and replace it with similar fighter aircrafts.... at least the alternate source will stop supplying the spares....
 

adnan_swati

Senator (1k+ posts)
the habits of begging continues . i dont know what are thousands of engineer getting degrees(free education) from best university of Pakistan (NUST) doing in armed forces ??
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
This decision should have been taken decades ago....
دیر آید درست آید۔۔۔
Pakistan should definitely get rid of its F16 squad and replace it with similar fighter aircrafts.... at least the alternate source will stop supplying the spares....

Perhaps it ushers "New grouping, which may lead Pakistan to be a member of Shangai group"
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
the habits of begging continues . i dont know what are thousands of engineer getting degrees(free education) from best university of Pakistan (NUST) doing in armed forces ??

Swati Sahib!
Changes take place slowly. However, could there be anything +ve in it? Is exchange of knowledge fruitful or not when you get technology along with arms?
 

mush_dewana

Banned
Swati Sahib!
Changes take place slowly. However, could there be anything +ve in it? Is exchange of knowledge fruitful or not when you get technology along with arms?
But what about technology that is already and in custody....
is this deal, to increase Army’s budge or to justify ... after all they have to kill more Pakistani
 

adnan_swati

Senator (1k+ posts)
Swati Sahib!
Changes take place slowly. However, could there be anything +ve in it? Is exchange of knowledge fruitful or not when you get technology along with arms?

how much time. 64 years have gone. we have cut our part so that they(army) could flourish . they cant complain of single thing that was not provided to them . still this power performance in technology.they cant even copy.
 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Zardari just looks at the kick backs, who is paying him back more....and he dont trust America or France any more.

There are too many kickbacks for contracts,” said Maria Sultan,
 

adnan_swati

Senator (1k+ posts)
Swati Sahib!
Changes take place slowly. However, could there be anything +ve in it? Is exchange of knowledge fruitful or not when you get technology along with arms?

a NUST graduate pays 15000 per month only as tuition fee. where as same student in uniform not only studies for free but also get handsome amount as salary . govt. spends about 2.5 million to 3 million to make one uniform engineer and whats the result????we are buying small nuts and bolts from abroad
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
But what about technology that is already and in custody....
is this deal, to increase Army’s budge or to justify ... after all they have to kill more Pakistani
Recently army has acted just like a pimp. The real colors of Kiyani are out now in the shape of Army's Zardari. And the people who thought that the son of the JCO is bit different than his predecessors are hopeless now. Could there be any hope?
 

mush_dewana

Banned
Recently army has acted just like a pimp. The real colors of Kiyani are out now in the shape of Army's Zardari. And the people who thought that the son of the JCO is bit different than his predecessors are hopeless now. Could there be any hope?
INSHALLAH brother there is hope but not from this regime, they are playing pingpong in all sectors,

wait when people understand what they are and what is their purpose of life (DEEN)
 

rajakhanmd

Senator (1k+ posts)
Thats a great development. US takes money, then delays the supplies and then delivers them with so many conditions which unable Pakistan to upgrade things.

I am sure once this war on terror saga is over, Pakistan will openly join the emerging Eastern block, after all US has already chose India as its Trojan horse for the region.
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Thats a great development. US takes money, then delays the supplies and then delivers them with so many conditions which unable Pakistan to upgrade things.

I am sure once this war on terror saga is over, Pakistan will openly join the emerging Eastern block, after all US has already chose India as its Trojan horse for the region.

When you don't lose, the enemy cannot beat you.
 

EniGma90

Minister (2k+ posts)
But you guys should be aware of that "China ki pistol akhir mein phaik kar hi marni parti hay".. A/c to some pro-shooters...[hilar]
 

drkjke

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
the habits of begging continues . i dont know what are thousands of engineer getting degrees(free education) from best university of Pakistan (NUST) doing in armed forces ??

yes
one thing that stupid so called patriots dont know is that just like usa the china is also under zionist anti islam peoples control and it will never ever help us when we really need it
remember 65 and 71 and kargil wars?china backed off and refused to supply pakistan arms during the war ,,,and at that time islamic countries like indonesia libya and saudia helped us by money and arms
 

drkjke

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Recently army has acted just like a pimp. The real colors of Kiyani are out now in the shape of Army's Zardari. And the people who thought that the son of the JCO is bit different than his predecessors are hopeless now. Could there be any hope?

have pakistanis not got any brain that tthey think kyani to be there worshipped hero ,when kyani and shuja pasha were given extension till 2013 on hillary clintons orders,and she is a zionist puppet
why pakistanis dont care about future of this nation is beyond my comprehension!there country is in danger from there civil and army zionist puppet rulers and they still worship most of them
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
But you guys should be aware of that "China ki pistol akhir mein phaik kar hi marni parti hay".. A/c to some pro-shooters...[hilar]

It is amazing that with such a pistol China is riding the nerves of American, Indians and there allies. And they are bleating. And sometimes leakage is also reported.;)
 
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