Antiam
Banned
This was the newspaper article of Ameer Majlis E Khatam E Nubuwwat Mufti Saeed Ahmad Jalalpuri shaheed before his assassination in karachi in march 2010. We can understand who are the killers of Ulema e Haqq in our country.
Mufti Saeed Ahmad Jalalpuri shaheed's article about zaid hamid
- Thread starter Antiam
- Start date
-
- Tags
- army brasstacks isi musharraf zaid hamid
Ahmad Ali
Banned
''kisi insaan k jhoota hone k liye yahi daleel hi kafi hai k woh suni sunai baton pe yaqeen kar le''
(Hadeeth)
main ne jis had tak Zaid hamid k fb pe posts etc daikhi hein
or unhein suna hai
woh har baat mein Sarkar e Do Aalam S.A.W.W se mohabbat ka izhaar karta hai
so main ne jo daikha or suna hai usi pe yaqeen karoun ga koi or kya kehta hai mjhe us se koi sar o kaar nahi
(Hadeeth)
main ne jis had tak Zaid hamid k fb pe posts etc daikhi hein
or unhein suna hai
woh har baat mein Sarkar e Do Aalam S.A.W.W se mohabbat ka izhaar karta hai
so main ne jo daikha or suna hai usi pe yaqeen karoun ga koi or kya kehta hai mjhe us se koi sar o kaar nahi
Believer12
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
مولوی سعید جو قتل ھو چکے ھیں اگر انکو حق ھے کہ زید حامد جو اپنے آپکو مسلمان کھتا ھے کو کافر ملحد کزاب اور یوسف کذاب کا چیلہ وغیرھ لکھیں تو پھر زید حامد کو بھی حق حاصل ھے کہ ایسے شخص کو سخت ترین الفاظ سے یا کم ازکم اسی جیسے الفاظ سے نوازے۔
Believer12
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
isko isi ki zuban say samjhana chaheye kiunke sharafat ki zuban inki nasal say door hai.
karachiwala
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
It can only happen in the Land of the Pure; the Islamic Republic of Bananaistan. The very day it is reported in the national press that a former chief minister of Balochistan appeared in the Supreme Court of Pakistan and demanded the disbandment of the MI/ISI ‘death squads’, it is also reported that Zaid Hamid, the laal topi wallah, who is impendingly going to mount his white charger and gallop off to conquer Delhi’s Red Fort, has ‘hired’ Raja Irshad, the ISI/MI/Pak Army’s favourite lawyer.
Zaid Hamid’s plea is that the SC should form a commission to probe the fact that Nawab Akbar Bugti committed suicide and murdered five army officers too, and was not killed by the army. We are also told that the petition was submitted in the SC a full week before the news was curiously published on the day that it was. Let us also quickly note that Nawab Akbar Bugti, himself a former interior minister of Pakistan and chief minister and governor of Balochistan, was killed on August 26, 2006, almost exactly five years and one month before Zaid Hamid suddenly realised that the Nawab had committed suicide and also murder. In the petition’s words: “In reality he had committed a rebellion, waged a war against the state and his own tribe and when cornered, he committed suicide while also murdered (sic) five army personnel, but these facts have never been reported by the media, never taken up by the courts and the separatists are fully exploiting lies, deceptions and propaganda in the environment (sic) to wage a war (sic) against the state of Pakistan, against the army and against the former members of the government in dangerous times.”
May I remind Zaid Hamid and friends, of reports in the press that Nawab Bugti was killed. Here is just one, published on November 10, 2010 in The News: “In the case of Nawab Akbar Khan Bugti’s killing, the source said, General (retd) Pervez Musharraf involved the then-Military Intelligence chief Major General Nadeem Ejaz and the top command of 12 Corps”. There are other reports detailing how he was killed, which constraints of space do not allow me to repeat here but let me turn this accusation on its head: what if the Nawab did indeed press the button bringing the cave down onto himself, his personal bodyguard made up of several hundred Bugti fighters and the army officers? Hadn’t this octogenarian, who could hardly walk, been chased into his cave complex by Musharraf’s army? Was he not surrounded completely at the fag end of his life with no rations getting through to him? Far more critically, did Musharraf not say in his brash bully-boy manner that ‘they won’t know what hit them (Bugti)’?
Indeed, it was reported at the time that “Security officials said forces on Friday launched air strikes against a cave complex in the mountains on the border of Dera Bugti and Kohlu districts where the chieftain was hiding”. Musharraf’s then-information minister, now champion democrat, Mohammad Ali Durrani, also said at the time that his death was the result of a ground-cum-air assault. Musharraf himself termed Bugti’s death a ‘victory’ for Pakistanis. What sort of victory was it when the Nawab himself triggered the explosives and killed five SSG officers too? Aren’t they ashamed of rewriting such recent history?
Indeed, the petition uses these words for Nawab Bugti: “… and when cornered …’. Cornered? Cornered? Is this the language that the Deep State’s adjuncts use for political leaders of this country; for a former interior minister, a governor and a chief minister; a Baloch Sardar who believed in Pakistan? Shame on them. And the pauper’s funeral they gave him, his body packed into a rude, locked box, none of his close family there to pay their last respects? Shame on them.
And the denouement: a day after Akhtar Mengal’s explosive statement in the SC and the SC’s harsh admonishment to the ‘death squads’, the pathetic federal and Balochistan governments have gone scurrying into the arms of the Deep State denying there are any death squads at all! So, who is kidnapping and torturing and killing Baloch, Hazara and Settlers?
Djinns in green? Bugs Bunny? Why, Senator Mir Hasil Bizenjo actually said on live TV so many years ago that they even knew the number plates of the double-cabins that belonged to the MI and which carried the thugs who kidnap. Shame on all of us!
Finally, kudos to Nawaz Sharif who has proved he is a statesman by meeting with and empathising with Sardar Mengal.
Source: Express Tribune
Zaid Hamid’s plea is that the SC should form a commission to probe the fact that Nawab Akbar Bugti committed suicide and murdered five army officers too, and was not killed by the army. We are also told that the petition was submitted in the SC a full week before the news was curiously published on the day that it was. Let us also quickly note that Nawab Akbar Bugti, himself a former interior minister of Pakistan and chief minister and governor of Balochistan, was killed on August 26, 2006, almost exactly five years and one month before Zaid Hamid suddenly realised that the Nawab had committed suicide and also murder. In the petition’s words: “In reality he had committed a rebellion, waged a war against the state and his own tribe and when cornered, he committed suicide while also murdered (sic) five army personnel, but these facts have never been reported by the media, never taken up by the courts and the separatists are fully exploiting lies, deceptions and propaganda in the environment (sic) to wage a war (sic) against the state of Pakistan, against the army and against the former members of the government in dangerous times.”
May I remind Zaid Hamid and friends, of reports in the press that Nawab Bugti was killed. Here is just one, published on November 10, 2010 in The News: “In the case of Nawab Akbar Khan Bugti’s killing, the source said, General (retd) Pervez Musharraf involved the then-Military Intelligence chief Major General Nadeem Ejaz and the top command of 12 Corps”. There are other reports detailing how he was killed, which constraints of space do not allow me to repeat here but let me turn this accusation on its head: what if the Nawab did indeed press the button bringing the cave down onto himself, his personal bodyguard made up of several hundred Bugti fighters and the army officers? Hadn’t this octogenarian, who could hardly walk, been chased into his cave complex by Musharraf’s army? Was he not surrounded completely at the fag end of his life with no rations getting through to him? Far more critically, did Musharraf not say in his brash bully-boy manner that ‘they won’t know what hit them (Bugti)’?
Indeed, it was reported at the time that “Security officials said forces on Friday launched air strikes against a cave complex in the mountains on the border of Dera Bugti and Kohlu districts where the chieftain was hiding”. Musharraf’s then-information minister, now champion democrat, Mohammad Ali Durrani, also said at the time that his death was the result of a ground-cum-air assault. Musharraf himself termed Bugti’s death a ‘victory’ for Pakistanis. What sort of victory was it when the Nawab himself triggered the explosives and killed five SSG officers too? Aren’t they ashamed of rewriting such recent history?
Indeed, the petition uses these words for Nawab Bugti: “… and when cornered …’. Cornered? Cornered? Is this the language that the Deep State’s adjuncts use for political leaders of this country; for a former interior minister, a governor and a chief minister; a Baloch Sardar who believed in Pakistan? Shame on them. And the pauper’s funeral they gave him, his body packed into a rude, locked box, none of his close family there to pay their last respects? Shame on them.
And the denouement: a day after Akhtar Mengal’s explosive statement in the SC and the SC’s harsh admonishment to the ‘death squads’, the pathetic federal and Balochistan governments have gone scurrying into the arms of the Deep State denying there are any death squads at all! So, who is kidnapping and torturing and killing Baloch, Hazara and Settlers?
Djinns in green? Bugs Bunny? Why, Senator Mir Hasil Bizenjo actually said on live TV so many years ago that they even knew the number plates of the double-cabins that belonged to the MI and which carried the thugs who kidnap. Shame on all of us!
Finally, kudos to Nawaz Sharif who has proved he is a statesman by meeting with and empathising with Sardar Mengal.
Source: Express Tribune
karachiwala
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
aj_157
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
mai ny yousf kazab k audio lectures sunny hai aur un mai zaid zaman naam k admi ko speech k liye bulaya jata hai aur awaaz sun kar mujhy 100% yakeen hai k us awaz mai aur zaid hamid ki awaz mai koi farak nahi hai aap loog bhi check kar sakty hai. baqi ALLAH behter janta hai?
<font size="3"><strong>
<font size="3"><strong>
karachiwala
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
یوسف کذاب کا چیلہ اور اس کے حواریو یہ سمجھاو کے کذاب کے چیلے کو اپنا نام بدلنے کی ضرورت کیوں پیش آئی۔ اپنا نام بدلنے والے اکثر چور ڈاکو یا قاتل ہوتے ہیں۔ یہ کیا ہے؟
karachiwala
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Sohraab
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
aap bilkul theek keh rahe hain
Sohraab
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
agar aap ne Emaad Khalid ka 51 minute ka interview nahi suna too zaroor sunain
Raaz
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
This is Karachiwala.
abu zainab
Banned
zaid haamid blindly defends musharraf
zaid haamid comes forward to defend musharraf.. zaid hamid says that musharraf is a patriot and a brave soldier.. he committed blunders because he chose bad advisers.. but he is a true pakistani..
zaid hamid says that musharraf did 5 very wrong things..
note that zaid criticized musharraf for some issues just because that whole pakistan is against musharraf.. public opinion is very much against musharraf.. everyone is attacking musharraf.. that is why zaid hamid criticized musharraf for some points.. however he says that musharraf is a true patriot..
but when musharraf was in power , zaid was blindly defending musharraf..
zaid haamid probably also gave statements against 'AbdulQadeer khan when musharraf was in power..
now zaid haamid is again back to defend musharraf.. just read this...
Zaid Hamid's puts the record straight about Musharraf !
Allah has asked Muslims to speak truth at all costs. We want to put some record straight. We have to speak the truth even if it is against our own enemies.
Musharraf is in custody today. A fall from grace indeed. This is natural justice for the mistakes he committed during his rule. He cannot give me anything today nor did he give anything yesterday when I knew him closely.
I see the media, politicians and the judiciary asking for his head -- the same people whose heads should also roll if the Constitution is applied in full against them ! This is the irony.
For the sake of record and to inform you of the facts, I am writing this. These our our analysis, assessment and opinion. Those who trust us will know the facts. Those who do not trust us can disagree.
Musharraf is a patriot who chose his advisers very badly. He is destroyed by Shaukat Aziz, Tariq Aziz, Altaf Hussian and the PML(Q) which were his allies. Today, they have all abandoned him. This happens when you chose corrupt, Qadianis, enemies and opportunists as your advisers. He was a simple brave soldier, but very naive in politics and poor in religion, but still a Pakistani at heart. We must be fair to him.
But his acts have destroyed Pakistan, just as Zardari's acts and CJ's decisions are destroying Pakistan today. Both Zardari and CJ would also meet the same fate which Musharraf is facing today. I am sure about this.
Musharraf is guilty of following crimes: These are the major ones.
1. NRO. which has imposed upon us this filthy government and democracy with these politicians which are all corrupt and traitors. The same NRO is haunting him now as he sits alone in a Police arest house in Islamabad.
2. He allowed this media without any controls. This totally anarchic media which are, foreign funded NGO's, working on hostile agenda to destabilize Pakistan. Now the same media is skinning him alive. His own doing again.
3. Giving strength to MQM, which had almost died in 90's. Now they are a huge monster haunting Pakistan today.
4. Allowing CIA to create TTP, offering Pakistan land to NATO unconditionally, allowing the CIA to use the route for weapons for terrorist and separatist groups like TTP, BLA and MQM. Thousands of "Ramond Davis" were allowed into Pakistan to wreck havoc with Pakistan's security.
5. Destroying Pakistan's ideology, Islamic values, identity and ideology, and bringing in highest western liberal secularism in the name of Enlightened moderation. This is one of the greatest damage done. Our values and faith has taken a serious hit in this period.
The above are just a few important ones.
But Musharraf is NOT guilty of following crimes:
1. He or the army did NOT kill Akbar Bugti. That is a lie. Bugti committed suicide. This is confirmed. Details have already been discussed many times by us. Those who do not know, please google our view.
2. Musharraf did NOT kill benazir Bhutto. That is a lie as well. BB is killed by TTP. It is confirmed.
3. Lal Masjid which was confirmed TTP and terrorist den which was waging a war against the state and their elimination was legally, religiously and morally correct. Again, he cannot be held responsible for that. Administratively, the issue could have been handled with less bloodshed, no doubt. But that does not mean that Lal masjid is innocent. They deserved death and got it rightly. Khawarij deserved that.
Also, remember this: If Pak army or Police conducting an operation in Bajaur, you cannot register an FIR against the army Chief or the President of the country for any military operation. This is totally wrong, abuse of law and a blatant violation of military rules and justice. Musharraf was President in uniform, just as Zardari is President today. Are we registering FIR's against Zardari or PM for all the violence going on the country ??? NO. Then how can FIR be registered against Musharraf for Bugti, Benazir or Lal masjid ?? This is what we call is Target killing through judiciary.
He is a victim of his own bad decision, treacherous advisers, a venomous judiciary and a hostile political opposition and media. Rest is all a political, judicial and media circus and has nothing to do with justice or morality. It is about getting even against him, now when he is trapped, weak, down and arrested. We feel sorry for him but we had warned him a hundred times against this possibility. He did not listen to me and took advice from his own advisers who have now fled or have become against him. He sits alone, afraid, sad and a broken man.
The present leaders, rulers and judges should learn from him. Their fate is also going to be exactly like him as they are also destroying Pakistan today.
Astaghfurullah !!! We seek mercy of Allah (swt) from the fitnah of power, wealth, status and arrogance.
http://takbeeremusalsal.blogspot.com/
zaid haamid comes forward to defend musharraf.. zaid hamid says that musharraf is a patriot and a brave soldier.. he committed blunders because he chose bad advisers.. but he is a true pakistani..
zaid hamid says that musharraf did 5 very wrong things..
note that zaid criticized musharraf for some issues just because that whole pakistan is against musharraf.. public opinion is very much against musharraf.. everyone is attacking musharraf.. that is why zaid hamid criticized musharraf for some points.. however he says that musharraf is a true patriot..
but when musharraf was in power , zaid was blindly defending musharraf..
zaid haamid probably also gave statements against 'AbdulQadeer khan when musharraf was in power..
now zaid haamid is again back to defend musharraf.. just read this...
Zaid Hamid's puts the record straight about Musharraf !
Allah has asked Muslims to speak truth at all costs. We want to put some record straight. We have to speak the truth even if it is against our own enemies.
Musharraf is in custody today. A fall from grace indeed. This is natural justice for the mistakes he committed during his rule. He cannot give me anything today nor did he give anything yesterday when I knew him closely.
I see the media, politicians and the judiciary asking for his head -- the same people whose heads should also roll if the Constitution is applied in full against them ! This is the irony.
For the sake of record and to inform you of the facts, I am writing this. These our our analysis, assessment and opinion. Those who trust us will know the facts. Those who do not trust us can disagree.
Musharraf is a patriot who chose his advisers very badly. He is destroyed by Shaukat Aziz, Tariq Aziz, Altaf Hussian and the PML(Q) which were his allies. Today, they have all abandoned him. This happens when you chose corrupt, Qadianis, enemies and opportunists as your advisers. He was a simple brave soldier, but very naive in politics and poor in religion, but still a Pakistani at heart. We must be fair to him.
But his acts have destroyed Pakistan, just as Zardari's acts and CJ's decisions are destroying Pakistan today. Both Zardari and CJ would also meet the same fate which Musharraf is facing today. I am sure about this.
Musharraf is guilty of following crimes: These are the major ones.
1. NRO. which has imposed upon us this filthy government and democracy with these politicians which are all corrupt and traitors. The same NRO is haunting him now as he sits alone in a Police arest house in Islamabad.
2. He allowed this media without any controls. This totally anarchic media which are, foreign funded NGO's, working on hostile agenda to destabilize Pakistan. Now the same media is skinning him alive. His own doing again.
3. Giving strength to MQM, which had almost died in 90's. Now they are a huge monster haunting Pakistan today.
4. Allowing CIA to create TTP, offering Pakistan land to NATO unconditionally, allowing the CIA to use the route for weapons for terrorist and separatist groups like TTP, BLA and MQM. Thousands of "Ramond Davis" were allowed into Pakistan to wreck havoc with Pakistan's security.
5. Destroying Pakistan's ideology, Islamic values, identity and ideology, and bringing in highest western liberal secularism in the name of Enlightened moderation. This is one of the greatest damage done. Our values and faith has taken a serious hit in this period.
The above are just a few important ones.
But Musharraf is NOT guilty of following crimes:
1. He or the army did NOT kill Akbar Bugti. That is a lie. Bugti committed suicide. This is confirmed. Details have already been discussed many times by us. Those who do not know, please google our view.
2. Musharraf did NOT kill benazir Bhutto. That is a lie as well. BB is killed by TTP. It is confirmed.
3. Lal Masjid which was confirmed TTP and terrorist den which was waging a war against the state and their elimination was legally, religiously and morally correct. Again, he cannot be held responsible for that. Administratively, the issue could have been handled with less bloodshed, no doubt. But that does not mean that Lal masjid is innocent. They deserved death and got it rightly. Khawarij deserved that.
Also, remember this: If Pak army or Police conducting an operation in Bajaur, you cannot register an FIR against the army Chief or the President of the country for any military operation. This is totally wrong, abuse of law and a blatant violation of military rules and justice. Musharraf was President in uniform, just as Zardari is President today. Are we registering FIR's against Zardari or PM for all the violence going on the country ??? NO. Then how can FIR be registered against Musharraf for Bugti, Benazir or Lal masjid ?? This is what we call is Target killing through judiciary.
He is a victim of his own bad decision, treacherous advisers, a venomous judiciary and a hostile political opposition and media. Rest is all a political, judicial and media circus and has nothing to do with justice or morality. It is about getting even against him, now when he is trapped, weak, down and arrested. We feel sorry for him but we had warned him a hundred times against this possibility. He did not listen to me and took advice from his own advisers who have now fled or have become against him. He sits alone, afraid, sad and a broken man.
The present leaders, rulers and judges should learn from him. Their fate is also going to be exactly like him as they are also destroying Pakistan today.
Astaghfurullah !!! We seek mercy of Allah (swt) from the fitnah of power, wealth, status and arrogance.
http://takbeeremusalsal.blogspot.com/
Last edited by a moderator:
