GeoG
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
As supporters we would have not welcomed her had she not resigned from NA
Her resignation is equivalent to CJ standing up to Musharraf after taking oath under PCO
As supporters we would have not welcomed her had she not resigned from NA
Her resignation is equivalent to CJ standing up to Musharraf after taking oath under PCO
pak4rule
Senator (1k+ posts)
exactly I am wondering that PTI , so called revolutionary party is soooooooooooooooooooo much happy on having a member of another party...........
Now seems PTI will be similar to other parties, having same people , same faces, same nature.....
Dont forget the fact that all major political families use to have their members in different parties so that who ever comes in power their family will be a beneficiary.
I was wishing to see new faces,new blood to change the scenario of our country but its sad that all old and tested actors are palying musical chair,
It wont end I guess...........................
Anyways I pray Marvi will prove herself as true honest political figure rather a clever one to get oppertunity.
Now seems PTI will be similar to other parties, having same people , same faces, same nature.....
Dont forget the fact that all major political families use to have their members in different parties so that who ever comes in power their family will be a beneficiary.
I was wishing to see new faces,new blood to change the scenario of our country but its sad that all old and tested actors are palying musical chair,
It wont end I guess...........................
Anyways I pray Marvi will prove herself as true honest political figure rather a clever one to get oppertunity.
Last edited:
Jack Sparrow
Minister (2k+ posts)
Naam He Kaafi Hai
Last edited:
That's below the belt my friend... let's give her some respect... With your logic ... a whole lot of politics from all parties including PPP, PML - N, PML -Q, MQM, ANP, JUI etc...should be considered the same as most of them supported Mushy in his era. At least I have not seen this lady use bad language or being disrespectful to other guests in different TV shows unlike the other so-called members of Parliaments especially in PPP and PML-N. The leader makes the difference ... and if people with some conscience and love for their country can join the true patriot of this country Imran Khan ... then revolution has already started.
FaisalKh
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Naam He Kaafi Hai
Pata nahi aap kya kehna chahtay hain u seem confused... bhai lota waghera to aap tab kehtay jab Imran Khan apni govt bachanay ke liye Marvi ko apnay saath shamil karta yahan to wo baat hi nahi.... lotacracy ki siasat to PPP aur PML N walay kartay hain yahan to baat mulk ki ho rahi hai apni hukumat bachanay ki nahi aur is bechaaari ne to apni achiii khasiii seat kurbaan kar dee hai so use some sense and give her some respect and if u cant then plz dont spit venom without any need and dont make fun of urself... and by the way PML N is also trying their level best to take her in their party as well...
Last edited:
GeoG
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Naam He Kaafi Hai
Are you suggesting Nawaz Sharif is a Lotta too because he started with Tehreek Istaklal
FaisalKh
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Plz do not compare Shah mehmood qureshi to asif zardari, javed hashmi to nawaz sharif, marvi memon kashmala tariq etc... to choudhry baradraan... at least these mentioned people took some initiative to save Pakistan and party agenda crap is nothing in front of Pakistan so if someone tries to do something for country we should appreciate them not criticize them... and her action right or wrong, personal gain or country's interest, only time will show... so give her some time...
Jack Sparrow
Minister (2k+ posts)
I am only suggesting that " Is Hammam mein sab nangay hein including IK" .This is lesson for PTI supporters not to spit venom on other leaders.
FaisalKh
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Is hamam mai sirf wahi nangay hain jo corrupt hain... jinhon ne corruption nahi kiii muazzaz log aaj bhi un ki izzat kartay hain aur jo corrupt aur beizzat hotay hain wo kisi ki izzat karna nahi jaantay.... and PTI supporters dont attack other leaders's personal affairs (at least i dont) rather we only criticize their corruption and looting of the country...
GeoG
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Strange logic
Nawaz Sharif Khud Doosri Part Main Thay
Aur Koi Aur Doorsi Party Say PTI Ko Join Kar Raha Hai
Kiya Yeh Brabar Hai..
canadian
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Why I chose Imran Khan
AbuBakr Agha June 18, 2011
Imran Khan is a name that comes up often in political debates among people affiliated with Pakistan. In times of trouble many see him as a ray of hope in a jungle of darkness. Others however, have accused him of playing popular politics, not taking a stance on important issues, and – when I heard this it blew my mind – being a terrorist sympathiser.
Opinions differ (but not evenly) and though Imran Khan has tremendous support from the youth of the country, bashing his politics is also extremely popular in newspapers and the social media. I, as a convinced supporter, will break this trend and speak of the man and his party in good taste.
Firstly, I feel it is important to reintroduce the person in question.
Who is Imran Khan?
Imran Khan is known as one of the greatest cricketers of all time. His bowling and captaincy alone could individually grant him that honour, but put together with his batting as well as guiding the Pakistan cricket team to their only world cup win in 1992, they place him on number eight on ESPN’s list of Legends of Cricket, as well as in the ICC Hall of Fame and in Oxford University’s hall of fame, from where he graduated from, with degrees in Politics, Economics and Philosophy.
After losing his mother to cancer, Imran Khan founded the Shaukat Khanam Memorial Cancer Hospital with the help of donations, to help underprivileged people suffering from the deadly disease.
The hospital, which was told by certain American technocrats that it would not be able to treat more than five per cent of its patients for free, proved all odds wrong, and a decade and a half later, was recognised as a centre of excellence and the only hospital in the world that offers free treatment to 70 per cent of its patients, by the World Health Organisation (WHO).
Khan became chancellor for Bradford University and convinced them to affiliate themselves with a college he was thinking about building in Mianwali. Namal College, offers Bradford University degrees at a co-educational school, just 40 miles from where drone strikes occur.
None of these accomplishments would have been possible without the generous donations of the people of course. The fact that he raised six million dollars in a matter of months through donations for the victims of last year’s floods, shows how much the people of Pakistan trust the man and his willingness to help.
Why not Imran Khan?
So when a proven leader, who is not corrupt, forms a party focusing on the lack of justice in Pakistan, do I support him?
The easy answer is ‘yes,’ and this easy answer has become even easier given the current situation of the country. All other major political parties are directionless, corrupt, opportunists and tested. Compared to criticisms of the PMLs, MQMs and PPPs, Tehreek-e-Insaf is almost angelic – but it is criticised nonetheless.
Analysing criticism
PTI was criticised for supporting Pervez Musharraf during the referendum but later denouncing him. I was very surprised to see people had a problem with that. To me the party did what most people did. Musharraf’s 14-point agenda was brilliant and he had my vote in the referendum too, but he lost a massive number of fans because of what he did afterwards and it would have been wrong to not denounce him in the circumstances.
After lashing out at the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) for terror politics, PTI was criticised for agreeing with them on the topic of drone strikes. This is also a strange criticism in my eyes, because I think the general public opinion about drones is very clear and if two parties agree on one thing, it does not change their disagreements.
The major critics of Imran and the PTI however, talk about his solutions to terrorism, foreign policy and stance on other larger issues.
Imran Khan says that in order for terrorism to decrease, Pakistan must exit the war on terror and hence refuse US aid. His critics argue that this is indeed Pakistan’s war and that US aid is necessary. Here again, I agree with the PTI.
My contention is that Pakistan is targeted because it is assisting the United States in the war. As for whether this is our war or not, it definitely is now, but I don’t believe that it can be solved by conflict. Withdrawing from the war would reduce terrorism since we will lose the label of American agents. The tribal areas of Pakistan have a history of never losing wars and aimlessly dropping bombs on random areas from unmanned aircrafts will only result in more civilian deaths and new radicalism.
If the Americans themselves can hold direct talks with the Taliban, why is Imran Khan a sympathiser for doing the same – especially if there is clearly no other solution?
Surely the current strategy has proven to be counter-productive. Many people have no idea about the tribal areas, its people, history or culture. Imran Khan has been there and has even written a travel book on the place, and of course what he predicted eight years ago about this war, all came true. As for the money that would be lost in aid, a proper system of tax collection was proposed by the PTI where it would be made sure that tax evasion was eliminated. Given the status of Pakistan’s tax avoiding elite, I fully believe that even lowering the tax rate can increase your revenue as long as everyone pays their taxes.
Imran’s stance on everything
The final point I will make is one that I feel is very important. Recently no one has been more vocal than the PTI when it comes to opposing drone strikes, but the sit-ins and demonstrations have been termed as anti-American popular politics.
People say that Imran Khan claims to be uncompromising and fears no one, but does not stand up for the defenceless minorities and the radicalisation of society and does not speak on controversial religious issues.
First of all, in my opinion the drone strikes are a violation of international law and (despite some success in eliminating extremists) kill innocent people and increase extremism. This is a huge injustice on the innocent people of the tribal areas and protesting against it is the equivalent to showing concern, which being a citizen of this country, or simply human, you should be able to do – be it a popular stance to take.
Furthermore, Imran Khan does not claim to be anti-American. He says the two countries should have a relationship where both parties are equal, instead of Hilary Clinton coming and giving orders to our politicians.
Moving on to the issue of his stances – I think people are unaware that privately Imran Khan said that if you lose the support of the ‘right-wing’ or the ‘Islamic-class’ in the country, you will never come in power. I concur with this point, as most people would – knowing the society we live in.
Imran Khan does speak on issues regarding religious minorities but not in the same capacity as his drone stance. I recall he sided with Salmaan Taseer on the issue of Aasia Bibi, but again, not in the same amplitude. There is a specific mindset that people have that will not change overnight, but needs time, education and awareness. That is why Imran Khan takes the views that he does on such matters. This does make his critics correct in some sense regarding popular politics, but also proves his other critics wrong, who say he does not compromise.
At the end of the day we all have a responsibility. We can bash a particular person who is trying to help and maybe deflect some votes away from him, or we can applaud him for what he has done for the country so far, create awareness about it, and give suggestions to improve any shortfalls we see to improve his ideas further.
In Imran Khan, we have a social visionary and a legend for the country. His purpose and reason for being in politics is to see a better Pakistan and to ensure justice for all citizens.
We have a choice: support, vote and help Khan, or take our ailing country to the same old doctors that put her in this condition in the first place.
I’ve made my choice, maybe you should too.
AbuBakr Agha June 18, 2011
Imran Khan is a name that comes up often in political debates among people affiliated with Pakistan. In times of trouble many see him as a ray of hope in a jungle of darkness. Others however, have accused him of playing popular politics, not taking a stance on important issues, and – when I heard this it blew my mind – being a terrorist sympathiser.
Opinions differ (but not evenly) and though Imran Khan has tremendous support from the youth of the country, bashing his politics is also extremely popular in newspapers and the social media. I, as a convinced supporter, will break this trend and speak of the man and his party in good taste.
Firstly, I feel it is important to reintroduce the person in question.
Who is Imran Khan?
Imran Khan is known as one of the greatest cricketers of all time. His bowling and captaincy alone could individually grant him that honour, but put together with his batting as well as guiding the Pakistan cricket team to their only world cup win in 1992, they place him on number eight on ESPN’s list of Legends of Cricket, as well as in the ICC Hall of Fame and in Oxford University’s hall of fame, from where he graduated from, with degrees in Politics, Economics and Philosophy.
After losing his mother to cancer, Imran Khan founded the Shaukat Khanam Memorial Cancer Hospital with the help of donations, to help underprivileged people suffering from the deadly disease.
The hospital, which was told by certain American technocrats that it would not be able to treat more than five per cent of its patients for free, proved all odds wrong, and a decade and a half later, was recognised as a centre of excellence and the only hospital in the world that offers free treatment to 70 per cent of its patients, by the World Health Organisation (WHO).
Khan became chancellor for Bradford University and convinced them to affiliate themselves with a college he was thinking about building in Mianwali. Namal College, offers Bradford University degrees at a co-educational school, just 40 miles from where drone strikes occur.
None of these accomplishments would have been possible without the generous donations of the people of course. The fact that he raised six million dollars in a matter of months through donations for the victims of last year’s floods, shows how much the people of Pakistan trust the man and his willingness to help.
Why not Imran Khan?
So when a proven leader, who is not corrupt, forms a party focusing on the lack of justice in Pakistan, do I support him?
The easy answer is ‘yes,’ and this easy answer has become even easier given the current situation of the country. All other major political parties are directionless, corrupt, opportunists and tested. Compared to criticisms of the PMLs, MQMs and PPPs, Tehreek-e-Insaf is almost angelic – but it is criticised nonetheless.
Analysing criticism
PTI was criticised for supporting Pervez Musharraf during the referendum but later denouncing him. I was very surprised to see people had a problem with that. To me the party did what most people did. Musharraf’s 14-point agenda was brilliant and he had my vote in the referendum too, but he lost a massive number of fans because of what he did afterwards and it would have been wrong to not denounce him in the circumstances.
After lashing out at the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) for terror politics, PTI was criticised for agreeing with them on the topic of drone strikes. This is also a strange criticism in my eyes, because I think the general public opinion about drones is very clear and if two parties agree on one thing, it does not change their disagreements.
The major critics of Imran and the PTI however, talk about his solutions to terrorism, foreign policy and stance on other larger issues.
Imran Khan says that in order for terrorism to decrease, Pakistan must exit the war on terror and hence refuse US aid. His critics argue that this is indeed Pakistan’s war and that US aid is necessary. Here again, I agree with the PTI.
My contention is that Pakistan is targeted because it is assisting the United States in the war. As for whether this is our war or not, it definitely is now, but I don’t believe that it can be solved by conflict. Withdrawing from the war would reduce terrorism since we will lose the label of American agents. The tribal areas of Pakistan have a history of never losing wars and aimlessly dropping bombs on random areas from unmanned aircrafts will only result in more civilian deaths and new radicalism.
If the Americans themselves can hold direct talks with the Taliban, why is Imran Khan a sympathiser for doing the same – especially if there is clearly no other solution?
Surely the current strategy has proven to be counter-productive. Many people have no idea about the tribal areas, its people, history or culture. Imran Khan has been there and has even written a travel book on the place, and of course what he predicted eight years ago about this war, all came true. As for the money that would be lost in aid, a proper system of tax collection was proposed by the PTI where it would be made sure that tax evasion was eliminated. Given the status of Pakistan’s tax avoiding elite, I fully believe that even lowering the tax rate can increase your revenue as long as everyone pays their taxes.
Imran’s stance on everything
The final point I will make is one that I feel is very important. Recently no one has been more vocal than the PTI when it comes to opposing drone strikes, but the sit-ins and demonstrations have been termed as anti-American popular politics.
People say that Imran Khan claims to be uncompromising and fears no one, but does not stand up for the defenceless minorities and the radicalisation of society and does not speak on controversial religious issues.
First of all, in my opinion the drone strikes are a violation of international law and (despite some success in eliminating extremists) kill innocent people and increase extremism. This is a huge injustice on the innocent people of the tribal areas and protesting against it is the equivalent to showing concern, which being a citizen of this country, or simply human, you should be able to do – be it a popular stance to take.
Furthermore, Imran Khan does not claim to be anti-American. He says the two countries should have a relationship where both parties are equal, instead of Hilary Clinton coming and giving orders to our politicians.
Moving on to the issue of his stances – I think people are unaware that privately Imran Khan said that if you lose the support of the ‘right-wing’ or the ‘Islamic-class’ in the country, you will never come in power. I concur with this point, as most people would – knowing the society we live in.
Imran Khan does speak on issues regarding religious minorities but not in the same capacity as his drone stance. I recall he sided with Salmaan Taseer on the issue of Aasia Bibi, but again, not in the same amplitude. There is a specific mindset that people have that will not change overnight, but needs time, education and awareness. That is why Imran Khan takes the views that he does on such matters. This does make his critics correct in some sense regarding popular politics, but also proves his other critics wrong, who say he does not compromise.
At the end of the day we all have a responsibility. We can bash a particular person who is trying to help and maybe deflect some votes away from him, or we can applaud him for what he has done for the country so far, create awareness about it, and give suggestions to improve any shortfalls we see to improve his ideas further.
In Imran Khan, we have a social visionary and a legend for the country. His purpose and reason for being in politics is to see a better Pakistan and to ensure justice for all citizens.
We have a choice: support, vote and help Khan, or take our ailing country to the same old doctors that put her in this condition in the first place.
I’ve made my choice, maybe you should too.
canadian
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Gutsy Marvi steps down…goes solo?
Sadaf Khan June 23, 2011
I won’t lie – I’ve often made fun of Marvi Memon’s overzealous emotional style, her long winded breathless sentences without full stops and the almost audible exclamation mark at the end of her sound bytes.
At times, I have used her high pitched quotes to add a bit of life to an otherwise dull TV report. More often than not, when I have seen her protesting on the streets I have wondered why a parliamentarian who claims to care so much for the masses, would associate herself with a party whose manifesto seems to focus on regaining power.
On Wednesday, as the Pakistan Muslim League-Quaid (PML-Q), a fresh part of the coalition government, voted in favour of the budget, Memon broke free of the party whose politics seemed to constantly collide with her principles.
Rendering her resignation from PML-Q and subsequently the National Assembly, Memon said that she wants to impress upon the people that they do not have to accept a government that robs them daily. A great sentiment, but we have yet to see what alternates she presents before the masses.
There have always been doubts about Memon’s politics, but I for one, have never denied that this young former parliamentarian is a go-getter.
Her statements might have been more emotional than logical (her support for former president General Pervez Musharraf has at times bordered on disturbing) and her protests will always have a political point scoring tag, but at least, Memon has never stopped at delivering criticism.
Be it floods, extremism or the country’s failing economy, this London School of Economics (LSE) graduate has always come forth with a plan – a good or bad, it has been a plan nonetheless and that solution oriented approach is something that sets her apart.
Her charisma as a leader was apparent in PML-Q’s Gilgit-Batistan (GB) campaign. Her connection with the people can be seen in any of the sit-ins and protests she has ever been a part of. For someone who resigned before completing her first term as a parliamentarian, Memon sure has a following.
Considering her track record, it isn’t likely that she would take a step this big without a proper plan. So while she denies plans to join any other political party and vows to continue her struggle for the people via the judiciary, on the roads and through other means, one can’t help but wonder if there is any truth in the rumours about her possible attachment to the Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI).
Afterall, her slogan for ‘haq’ seems to be in line with PTI’s call for justice.
Whether she joins Imran Khan or decides to play it solo, I’m looking forward to Marvi’s new beginning.
So here’s to Memon, whose exit from the parliament is true to her own style of politics – gutsy and good willed, a little impractical maybe but in the dirty arena of Pakistan’s politics I would gladly take the bold, sincere gesture as a great precedent and hope that more parliamentarians would opt out of voting in favour of policies that serve the rulers instead of the people.
lllcolumbuslll
Banned
any special code for certain area???
Aghaji
Citizen
Aghaji
Citizen
jerry719964
Senator (1k+ posts)
Bahut sakht lagi hai mere bhai ko , N league to bahut bari hai bhai bahut bare bare namwar leader hain usmein to phir kyun pareshan ho rahe ho?apni party pe aitmaad kero itni bari party hoke bhi tumhein uspe aitmaad nahi zara zara si baat pe itna jal jaate ho , insaan aise jaldi boorha hojata hai isliye doosron ki fikar kerne ki bajaye apni party mein khushiyan dhoondha kero
Aghaji
Citizen
aisay logg to shanakhti card per bhi kawaif badal letay hain...kya karain inn ki rozi roti hi aysay chalti hai.
