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elipst

Minister (2k+ posts)
to all MQMers,

you used to post crap about Islami Jamiat Talba ... now i think its high time when you can defend your party and Altaf's decision of forming MQM ... please share as much info you have with our JI fellows ... lets have a healthy debate ...

@mehwish_ali @elipst @nasirzaman


Haha... Whats the matter? Cant handle a Jamaati by yourself? :P

Without delving into the past, on why MQM was created and what Jamaat did not do for the people of Karachi who elected them to represent them.

Main reason for MQMs creation has always been JI failure to raise the issue of Karachi's problems, be it the issue of the quota system, or admission into universities inside Karachi. Instead what JI did under Zia was to create a kind of sect that spread hatred and sectarianism inside Karachi. What we see the sectarian divide inside Karachi is a direct product of JI's teachings. When JI is faced with a problem, instead of solving it they blame other people for it.

The Bushra Zaidi riots did not really involve APMSO at that time but more Urdu speaking and Pushto speaking members of IJT and JI.

Ask the Jamaati to explain this video. It is 100% true.
 

elipst

Minister (2k+ posts)
[h=1]Three held in KU blast case[/h]From the Newspaper | Metropolitan > Karachi | By Our Staff ReporterJanuary 13, 2011



KARACHI, Jan 12: Three suspects allegedly involved in the last month`s bomb blast on the Karachi University campus were on Wednesday arrested by the Special Investigation Unit (SIU) of the Karachi police.According to a statement issued by the SIU, the suspects were arrested after a brief shootout on Hub River Road within the remit of the Mauripur police station on Wednesday morning.
The suspects Muhammad Umar alias Chhota, Hafeezullah alias Bilal and Syed Faaiz Ali were former students of the varsity and associated with a dissident group of the Islami Jamiat Talaba (IJT),` which called itself Punjabi Mujahideen, it added.
The police claimed to have seized an AK-47 assault rifle, two shotguns, two .30-bore pistols and two hand grenades from them.
Regarding the blast on the KU campus, the SIU said that the suspects first made videos of the area in the university where they wanted to attack members of the Imamia Students Organisation. Then, it said, they did planning of the attack in Buffer Zone and on Dec 26 they planted an improvised explosive device in the varsity and covered it with grass. On Dec 28, suspect Muhammad Umar exploded the bomb through a mobile phone, it added.
The SIU claimed that the suspects got militant training in Waziristan, Ugi and Miramshah.
The statement said that the suspects were part of a group called Punjabi Mujahideen, which was formed by some IJT activists in 2007 after developing differences with their party over the Jamaat-i-Islami`s moderate policy with regard to the Waziristan issue.
It said that between 150 and 200 activists of the group wanted to follow the ideology of two brothers Dr Akmal Waheed and Dr Arshad Waheed who had been arrested for aiding militants. One of them, Dr Arshad, was killed in a drone attack in March 2008 in the country`s tribal area.
It said that some other aides of the suspects Zuhair Imtiaz Qudwai, Umar Imtiaz Qudwai, Arib Imtiaz Qudwai, Misbah Usmani, Muhammad Shabbir, Imran Nazir and Samiullah had been killed in drone attacks in the tribal areas.

http://www.dawn.com/2011/01/13/three-held-in-ku-blast-case.html
 

elipst

Minister (2k+ posts)
An article by the late Saleem Shahzad on IJT Karachi's activities


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By Syed Saleem Shahzad

ISLAMABAD - Several hundred students in the southern port city of Karachi have left the Islami Jamiat-e-Talaba (IJT), Pakistan's largest student union, to join al-Qaeda training camps in the North Waziristan tribal area on the border with Afghanistan, Asia Times Online has learned.

The IJT is an offshoot of the Jamaat-e-Islami (JI), the country's premier Islamic party.

"This is true. They now have their own camp in North Waziristan and it is purely the work of the late Dr Arshad Waheed that such a huge number of people are joining here," Usman Punjabi, a militant leader, told Asia Times Online on the telephone.

Waheed was a renowned kidney specialist who was president of

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the Pakistan Islamic Medical Association, an offshoot of the JI. He and his brother Dr Akmal Waheed, a cardiovascular physician, were arrested in 2004 after an attack on a military motorcade in Karachi in 2004. They were charged with facilitating members of the al-Qaeda-affiliated Jundallah.

The brothers were later released and relocated to South Waziristan, where Arshad Waheed was killed in a drone attack in 2008. He was the first Pakistani al-Qaeda sympathizer to be featured by al-Qaeda's media wing al-Sahab in a long documentary, in which he was called a role model.

The exodus of students to the tribal areas was also confirmed by a former leader of the JI's youth wing who spoke to Asia Times Online on the condition of anonymity, "To me there is no need to hide this thing, it is true, a big number has already left and I am afraid that the remaining ones will also be leaving Karachi soon."

According to a Pakistani counter-terrorism official, case studies show that initially all jihadis are recruited to fight against foreign forces in Afghanistan, but ultimately they end up fighting against the Pakistani security forces.

This is an important development in al-Qaedas struggle and a major blow for Pakistan that a large number of people affiliated with the country's most influential Islamic party - always considered a major strategic asset for the military establishment - have joined forces with al-Qaeda.

This development can be compared to 2005, when, after a crackdown on militants, hundreds of highly trained and battle-hardened fighters from Kashmir went to North Waziristan to join forces with al-Qaeda. These included Ilyas Kashmiri, whose 313 Brigade is now an important operational arm of al-Qaeda, and veteran jihadi Abdul Jabbar.

Beginning of a new phase
Shortly after last Tuesday's attack on a Punjabi regimental center in Mardan in Khyber Pakhtoonkhwa (formerly North-West Frontier Province) in which three suicide bombers were killed and four soldiers wounded, the Taliban sent out a press release in English. The first section read:
Recently, news has circulated in the media of a report of Amnesty International regarding the brutal rule of the Pakistan army in Swat, northeastern Pakistan, under a so-called "operation". The report says that the Pakistan army in the name of the operation, Rahe-Rast, did brutal assaults in poor areas of Swat Valley and allegedly killed hundreds of men without charges and without any proof or legal procedure before they were executed. These extra-judicial killings not only unveil the nature of the Pakistani army, they also bring the truth in front of the whole nation. A few months ago, a video tape was circulated on the Internet in which many Pakistan army men were seen brutally beating villagers, nearly killing them.

Earlier, a movie was shown on local and international television channels containing scenes of a women being executed by some men [Taliban], saying this is the so-called Islamic judiciary system the Taliban wants to impose on the people of Pakistan. [As a result] the army took action and started operation Rahe-Rast. If the serious think-tanks of Pakistan compare these two video clips, they must speak out.​
What is interesting about this release is that is was relatively well articulated; in the past, militant spokesmen had difficulty even expressing themselves in Urdu.

Contacts in North Waziristan confirm that the large-scale movement of IJT members took place earlier this year. The organization responded by expelled all of them. However, these students maintain a very active presence on the Internet, and blogging is their main tool for recruitment.

The JI apparently did its best to bring these students back, without success. It even sent Hafiz Waheedullah Khan to Wana, the largest town in South Waziristan, to speak to Akmal Waheed.
Kahn is the father of the Waheed brothers and a well-respected educationist who runs a network of private schools. He was a founder of the JI-backed Teachers' Association of Pakistan, the largest in the country. Akmal refused to speak with his father.

The JI was banned in the 1960s by then-dictator Field Marshal Ayub Khan's regime but it fought its case in the courts and won back its legitimacy. In the 1970s, the JI formed two notorious militias, al-Shams and al-Badr, which fought with the Pakistan army against Indian forces and rebel Bengalis. That support brought the JI close to the military and that continued until the era of former president General Pervez Musharraf, who came to power in 1999.

The IJT was formed in 1948 as an offshoot of the JI to counter left-wing student unions. By the late 1960s and early 1970s, the IJT won elections at the country's three main campuses - Punjab University, Karachi University and Peshawar University.

Student leaders of that period became national leaders, including incumbent ambassador to the United States Husain Haqqani (he was elected president of the IJT-backed student union of Karachi University); the leader of the Pakistan Muslim League (Nawaz), Javed Hashmi (Punjab University); incumbent Law Minister Dr Babar Awan (president of the IJT Rawalpindi), beside a long list of politicians in different political parties and a very strong representation in Urdu-language media outlets.

During the Afghan jihad in the 1980s against the Soviets, IJT members enthusiastically fought and in the process they developed ties with Arab militants. For this reason, after the September 11, 2001, attacks on the US, top al-Qaeda members, including 9-11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, were arrested from the residences of JI leaders.

As a result, at one time the Americans put immense pressure on Pakistan to ban the JI, so much so that then-Pakistani interior minister Syed Faisal Saleh Hayat announced that the government was thinking of doing so. However, the military establishment put its foot down, despite a personality clash between Musharraf and then-JI president Qazi Hussain Ahmad. Instead of the JI being banned, Hayat was removed from his post.

This new development of IJT students joining al-Qaeda is more dangerous for Pakistan than any other previous al-Qaeda alliances. Most colleges and universities are the stronghold of the IJT, while the IJT's parent body, the JI, is the richest political party in the country and runs schools, madrassas (seminaries) and a vast network of social services and charities. Karachi contributes about 65% of the JIs revenues.

When the Kashmiri fighters joined forces with al-Qaeda, it improved the group's guerrilla techniques in the battlefield, while the IJT cadre will greatly boast al-Qaeda's recruitment drive and enhance its political influence.

Syed Saleem Shahzad is Asia Times Online's Pakistan Bureau Chief. He can be reached at [email protected]

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Khalid

Minister (2k+ posts)
that's not the matter, i have already shared what i found relevant ... i thought you have more info about them

btw i just saw the comments on the video you shared ... its bit controversial

following are the comments

Secondly all those who believed this is a fake video then plz flag it as well

mqpasta 3 months ago

on video: 44 likes, 60 dislikes





There is no connection of islami jamiat talba with Taliban. and this video shows only terrorist.. not islami jamiat talba.. there are lot of videos which shows Shia sipaa Muhammaad and MQM and ANP terrorism in Karachi. and recent prevailing terrorism also link with these terrorist elements ..


zeeinfovillages 3 months ago


yai fake video banaie hai..... jamiat k larko ki fake pics dal dee hain....buhat hi gatiya mazak hai..... jis nay bhi kia us ko yai ehsas nahi es video sy kisi ki jana per muskil bhi asakti hai..afsoos hai us zehan per....


spiritbeauty 5 months ago


Respond to this video... @formerplay this is a fake video ...... 2 alag alag news channel ki reports ko mila ker beech mein ap ni marzi ki pics laga di ... hadd hai ... yaar saaf nazar aarha hai ... sach bolo bhaiyon ....

usmanmajid1 3 months ago












Haha... Whats the matter? Cant handle a Jamaati by yourself? :P

 

Khalid

Minister (2k+ posts)
bilkul, magar dost forum pe MQM waley aa k blame kurtey hain JI ko ... tou meine socha k yahan pe MQM aur JI aamney samney ... agar woh MQM waley ghalat daleel deen gaye JI waley hum sy fact share karengaye, and vice versa ...

:sorry:brother but have u seen Mehwish to have a
healthy debate ? wo to har daleel ka ulta jawab dete hai.
 

tariq_tariq

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
bilkul, magar dost forum pe MQM waley aa k blame kurtey hain JI ko ... tou meine socha k yahan pe MQM aur JI aamney samney ... agar woh MQM waley ghalat daleel deen gaye JI waley hum sy fact share karengaye, and vice versa ...
teek hai likn is se achee baat ye hai k PTI our JI aps min na lare Q K dono currupt nahin our nazreiati parties hai
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tariisb

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Jamiat-the only disciplined student organization-Jamiat's disciplinary action against guilty persons inovloved in Imtan Khan arrest at Punjab University​


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Jamiat's disciplinary action against guilty persons inovloved in Imtan Khan arrest at Punjab University​


Islami Jamiat Talaba is the only student organization who takes strict disciplinary action against its own workers who break discipline...and this was made very clear in incident of Imran Khan...that was really a sad event,but Jamiat action showed it does not and will not back every action of its workers if its wrong....Jamiat removed its Nazim PU from his post...

But strangely,people who were expelled from Jamiat became the leaders of ISF

It all seemed a plan to sabotage Jamiat's image
You people can read the news yourself here and decide better....


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Is there any such example in any student party of disciplanry action against its own workers who violate the rules?​


ALHAMDOLILLAH ISLAMI JAMIAT TALABA is still present in Punjab University and doing the work of dawah and welfare of students with same zeal and zeast..and recently they had organized All Pakistan convention there in which around 60,000 students participated

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Views of different personalities about jamiat​


Hasan Nisar views about jamiat


General Hameed Gul views about Jamiat


Amjad Islam Amjad Views About Jamiat


Prof.Jameel Jalbi Ex. VC Karachi University Views about Jamiat



Javed Hashmi's Views about Jamiat





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Really Appreciating , a good example for others to follow . great
 

mrk123

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
You are not getting my point. I never said that ALL the people in Jamiat are bad or all are angels. Its reflective of the society that we all breath in. The issue that I am raising is that the people I named were pretty much at the top of jamiat hierarchy not an average worker who has no say in what goes on and who doesn't see the inner working of jamiat. Now the few names I listed are the ones who are in the limelight for all the wrong reasons. My contention is that what happened to jamiat tadrees to these people and the tadrees that they did to others?

What I am trying to say is that there is something wrong that Jamiat produces, trains, absorbs, tolerates these people at the very top. The problem is that if this people were all well established politicians and then went to other well established parties then it would make some sense. The thing is that these people are nobodies in terms of age and name when they join jamiat - they are trained by jamiat, nurtured by jamiat, given a name and title by jamiat in the formative years of their lives - my question is what kind of training prompts them to do this? I think that this happens since at the center of all this is tolerance for idiocy and munafiqat to gain politically - where people learn that everything is possible to score political points and this is the lesson these people carry with them for the rest of their lives and in fact apply it pretty well.

There is no doubt that jamiat is a very well organized organization just JI is. After all MQM learned a thing or two from jamiat about orgnazing a party - its a different matter that they took this to the next level. And, I dont doubt that there are very good and dedicated people in JI and jamiat but then thats true for ALL parties and organization - heck, the most reviled political party at this time PPP has some decent people still in its ranks (not many but they still are there).



میں نے تین قسم کے لوگوں کی مثال دی جو جمیعت سے پیدا ہوۓ ایک صاف اور اجلے جن کے نظریات بالکل یوں کے توں رہے سراج الحق --- دوسرے وہ جو تھوڑا بہت تبدیل ہوۓ لیکن انکی دیانت اور صفائی پر کوئی شک نہیں کر سکتا مراد جاوید ہاشمی --- تیری قسم وہ ہے جنہوں نے اپنی عملی زندگی میں اتنا بدلے کہ عام لوگوں سے بھی زیادہ خطر ناک ثابت ہوۓ
اب یہ بات میں آپ پر چھوڑتا ھوں آپ ثابت کریں کہ ان تینوں قسم کے لوگوں میں سے سب سے زیادہ تعدادجمیعت میں کس قسم کے لوگوں کی ہے آپ نے آخری قسم سے ٹاپ لائن افراد کے پانچ یا دس افراد کے نام لیے آپ اور بھی ڈھونڈھ لیں پھر کہیں تو میں بھی ٹاپ لائن سے پہلی قسم حا لانکہ دوسری قسم بھی اتنی بری نہیں ہے میں نام پیش کرتا ھوں
 

elipst

Minister (2k+ posts)
that's not the matter, i have already shared what i found relevant ... i thought you have more info about them

btw i just saw the comments on the video you shared ... its bit controversial


That is why I posted the article by Saleem Shehzad. The same one who wrote articles against the Navy and ISI
 

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