Is There Any Way to Get Rid of Evil Establishment? Your Comments & Suggestions Views?

[Wadaich]

Can't blame Imran Khan when the whole system is not fair, If it was a free and fair
system the Imran would have become PM by now.

I think Army should make a move but I think Raheel is part 2 of Kayani.
I would love it if the next COAS made a move and bought in caretaker
gov led by Zaid Hamid. I dont agree with Zaid on everything but the guy
bleeds green.
.

Who is blaming Imran Khan and his sincerity and honesty? First of all there is no chance for him in the current system even after many reforms in it. Suppose there is any, then remember the moment there would a chance SMQ/JKT/Ch. Sarwar kinda people will come forward and overtake. Keep in mind the press conference of Khurshid Shah as trailer:)

 

[Sohail Shuja]

Well any system can work and no system can work either. Systems are non living which are handled by living people. They work on the principle of garbage in and garbage out. It is the people who make the system work and succeed.

The only way to put pressure on the government is to start a civil disobedience by not paying the bills, not going to the jobs and not doing any business.... stop the wheel and they will come rolling under your feet. It is like cutting off their umbilical cord... the establishment can be choked to death. But who will give this wisdom to the people? IK tried the stunt once, but was badly bashed by Gen P@sha and hence he retreated and never ever tried that stunt again.

 

[Wadaich]

Well any system can work and no system can work either. Systems are non living which are handled by living people. They work on the principle of garbage in and garbage out. It is the people who make the system work and succeed.

The only way to put pressure on the government is to start a civil disobedience by not paying the bills, not going to the jobs and not doing any business.... stop the wheel and they will come rolling under your feet. It is like cutting off their umbilical cord... the establishment can be choked to death. But who will give this wisdom to the people? IK tried the stunt once, but was badly bashed by Gen P@sha and hence he retreated and never ever tried that stunt again.

We have seen millions of people coming in street in various countries of developed world in recent past. How many of them could change the system?

 

[Wadaich]

His charge sheet will come after his retirement ;) Until then hope for third umpire finger _|_ :D

How will U evaluate a person sitting in the exam? During the exam or after the examination time ends?

 

[dingdong]

​yes Revolt within the Army by juniors to save the country

 

[abdlsy]

Let the army keep cleaning the country without martial law for next 5 years with existance of military courts for the worst.


Second step police academys should be opened all over the provinces to hire locals of that province with sylabus and training manual like army.

Create advance masters degrees in crimnal justice degrees all big universties.


Create build 4 best law schools with criteria for admission as strict as agha khan medical college in karachi.


Police should be divided into several division like a good internal affairs division checking police corruption, bomb squad plus swat team. Plus commandoe force. Traffic police. Domestic violence division. Terrorist division with psychologists in each city. High class forensic division and lab. Body cameras for policemen so any arrest recorded n reviwed for training. Higher level police officers n regulars should get best job related facilities housing incentives and spying by provisional agencies that makes reports on corruption.


NAB SHOULD HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE HONEST.


ELECTION COMMISION SHOULD INCLUDE HONEST ELITE RETD PEOPLE OF PAKISTAN WITH NO POLITICAL AFFLIATION. WITH STRICEST CRITERIA FOR MINISTERS MPS MNAS AND GOOD QUALIFICATIONS. TO BE ELIGIBLE VVVVV IMPORTANT they should be living ie their physical resident of that jurisdriction for 5 years to be eligible. They need a bachelor degree no crimnal history and qualify exam of IQ and common ethics questions juriprudence exam.

TAX DEPT INCLUDE HONEST INDEPENDENT HONEST PAKISTANIES WITH SPIES TO CHECK CORRUPT ELITE INCOME.



GOOD NEWS ALL OF THE ABOVE IS HAPPENING IN KPK DUE TO IK PTI GOVERNANCE.


if implemented in 5 years army jawaans can go back n relax n keep eye on border. Inshallah.

 

[Wadaich]

Let the army keep cleaning the country without martial law for next 5 years with existance of military courts for the worst.


Second step police academys should be opened all over the provinces to hire locals of that province with sylabus and training manual like army.

Create advance masters degrees in crimnal justice degrees all big universties.

Create build 4 best law schools with criteria for admission as strict as agha khan medical college in karachi.


Police should be divided into several division like a good internal affairs division checking police corruption, bomb squad plus swat team. Plus commandoe force. Traffic police. Domestic violence division. Terrorist division with psychologists in each city. High class forensic division and lab. Body cameras for policemen so any arrest recorded n reviwed for training. Higher level police officers n regulars should get best job related facilities housing incentives and spying by provisional agencies that makes reports on corruption.


NAB SHOULD HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE HONEST.


ELECTION COMMISION SHOULD INCLUDE HONEST ELITE RETD PEOPLE OF PAKISTAN WITH NO POLITICAL AFFLIATION. WITH STRICEST CRITERIA FOR MINISTERS MPS MNAS AND GOOD QUALIFICATIONS. TO BE ELIGIBLE VVVVV IMPORTANT they should be living ie their physical resident of that jurisdriction for 5 years to be eligible. They need a bachelor degree no crimnal history and qualify exam of IQ and common ethics questions juriprudence exam.

TAX DEPT INCLUDE HONEST INDEPENDENT HONEST PAKISTANIES WITH SPIES TO CHECK CORRUPT ELITE INCOME.



GOOD NEWS ALL OF THE ABOVE IS HAPPENING IN KPK DUE TO IK PTI GOVERNANCE.


if implemented in 5 years army jawaans can go back n relax n keep eye on border. Inshallah.

If U are expecting all this from the current democratic system, then it would be dream never come true. However, this system is changed to Presidential system where a single man like IK has fullest power to select the most honest from whole Pakistan on his will, then it may get fruitful.

 

[seedasada]

یہ تم لوگوں کا اپنا کام ہے سوچنا میں پٹواری ہوں میری سمجھ میں اتنی گہری باتیں کہاں آتی ہے

بھائی میں انصافی ہوں،،ہماری سمجھ میں ویسے تو سب آتا ہے،، پر سوچتے خان صاحب ہیں،،
بس کسی طرح نواز شریف کو ہٹا دو۔۔۔۔۔۔۔بھائی نئی

 

[RajaRawal111]

نواز شریف نہ ہوا مٹھائی پر بیٹھی مکھی ہے جو تم لوگوں کے کہنے پر ہٹا دیں
اور کریکشن کر لو سوچتا شیخ رشید ہے خان صرف اس کے حکم پر عمل کرتا ہے

بھائی میں انصافی ہوں،،ہماری سمجھ میں ویسے تو سب آتا ہے،، پر سوچتے خان صاحب ہیں،،
بس کسی طرح نواز شریف کو ہٹا دو۔۔۔۔۔۔۔بھائی نئی

 

[seedasada]

نواز شریف نہ ہوا مٹھائی پر بیٹھی مکھی ہے جو تم لوگوں کے کہنے پر ہٹا دیں
اور کریکشن کر لو سوچتا شیخ رشید ہے خان صرف اس کے حکم پر عمل کرتا ہے

یار مٹھائی پر بیٹھی مکھی نہیں ہٹا سکتے تو مٹھائی ہمیں دیدو،۔۔ہمارا بھی بہت دل کرتا ہے ، ہمارے شہزادے بھی لنڈن میں باوضو فلیٹ خریدیں
۔۔۔۔اور شیخ رشید سوچے ، ترین سوچے ، یا قریشی،،،،،گردن تو ہمارے خان کی ہلتی ہے نا۔۔۔بس کافی ہے
چلو نہ تمہاری نہ ہماری
تم میاں صاحب کو ہٹانے کی تیاری کرو۔۔۔۔۔ہم خان صاحب کو حالات کو سمجھ کر بولنے پر راضی کرتے ہیں
اوکے؟

 

[khan.can]

From 1958 (coup of Ayub), the only Establishment in Pakistan is only Armed Forces (FOUJ) nobody else.
Democracy and elections drama has to be established to show the world that Pakistan is democratic country so Fauj can deal with IMF and US for aids/funds.
As Fauji couldn't become MPA/MNA so they hired crooks, landlords and warlords to do this for them and keep quite. Those crooks, landlords and warlords are allowed to make limited money and left everything to Fauj but sometimes those crooks cross their limits and try to be strong. Fauj then hire other crooks to create artificial panic and coup that government. And this cycle runs again and again so this is no rocket science we not able to understand!

 

[RajaRawal111]

پہلے قسم چک کے کہو کہ خان کو حالات کے مطابق بولنے پر مجبور کرو گے تو اسی نعمت پر ہزار نورے قربان کر دیں گے

یار مٹھائی پر بیٹھی مکھی نہیں ہٹا سکتے تو مٹھائی ہمیں دیدو،۔۔ہمارا بھی بہت دل کرتا ہے ، ہمارے شہزادے بھی لنڈن میں باوضو فلیٹ خریدیں
۔۔۔۔اور شیخ رشید سوچے ، ترین سوچے ، یا قریشی،،،،،گردن تو ہمارے خان کی ہلتی ہے نا۔۔۔بس کافی ہے
چلو نہ تمہاری نہ ہماری
تم میاں صاحب کو ہٹانے کی تیاری کرو۔۔۔۔۔ہم خان صاحب کو حالات کو سمجھ کر بولنے پر راضی کرتے ہیں
اوکے؟

 

[Wadaich]

پہلے قسم چک کے کہو کہ خان کو حالات کے مطابق بولنے پر مجبور کرو گے تو اسی نعمت پر ہزار نورے قربان کر دیں گے

Aap bhi anokhay ladlay wali baat kartay ...... khelan ko maangay chand. Kuch cheezien mumkin nahi bhi hotein.(serious)

 

[seedasada]

پہلے قسم چک کے کہو کہ خان کو حالات کے مطابق بولنے پر مجبور کرو گے تو اسی نعمت پر ہزار نورے قربان کر دیں گے

یار قسم تو نہیں چک سکتا۔۔نا بابا نا۔۔۔۔خان صاحب کو تو اپ جانتے ہی ہو ،پورے چرچل ہیں
ویسے ایک بات تو بتاؤ،اگر شیخ رشید کو چک کر نواز حکومت میں فلم کا وزیر لگا دوں،،،،،تو آپ وہ کام کردوگے جو
میں کہہ رہا ہوں؟

 

[Ahmad2015]

witout establishment, these politicians will sell whole Pak in no time and move either UK or Dubai

 

[RajaRawal111]

او نہیں نہیں شیخ کو کچھ نہ کرنا ہمیں بڑا مزا آتا ہے کافی شغلی باتیں کرتا ہے کیوں ہماری زندگی سے رنگ ختم کنے کا سوچ رہے ہو

یار قسم تو نہیں چک سکتا۔۔نا بابا نا۔۔۔۔خان صاحب کو تو اپ جانتے ہی ہو ،پورے چرچل ہیں
ویسے ایک بات تو بتاؤ،اگر شیخ رشید کو چک کر نواز حکومت میں فلم کا وزیر لگا دوں،،،،،تو آپ وہ کام کردوگے جو
میں کہہ رہا ہوں؟

 

[abdlsy]

If U are expecting all this from the current democratic system, then it would be dream never come true. However, this system is changed to Presidential system where a single man like IK has fullest power to select the most honest from whole Pakistan on his will, then it may get fruitful.

Agree brother whatever works for pakistan whatever system of governance needed forbetterment of pakistan n its citizen but army needs to continue in the background cleaning activities for next 5 without martial law. We are 97% muslim country its a shame such high alarming levels of corruption. 8 years gotten worst. Thx. I love your thread i dont see any pmln or ppp supporters here dont they care about pakistan.

 

[abdlsy]

From 1958 (coup of Ayub), the only Establishment in Pakistan is only Armed Forces (FOUJ) nobody else.
Democracy and elections drama has to be established to show the world that Pakistan is democratic country so Fauj can deal with IMF and US for aids/funds.
As Fauji can not be become MPA/MNA so he hired crooks, landlords and warlords to do this for them and keep quite. Those crooks, landlords and warlords are allowed to make limited money and left everything to Fauj but sometimes those crooks cross their limits and try to be strong. Fauj then hire other crooks to create artificial panic and coup that government. And this cycle runs again and again so this is no rocket science we not able to understand!

keeya fazool analysis zore kiss pae huwa fauj. How old are you sir n ur education background n ethics. Fauj or politicians or citizens subh 97% muslim pakistanis orr inn teenoe mein sae aik behturr koe choose kurroe to fix pakistan yaa last choice ik pti. Ok understand.

 

[seedasada]

او نہیں نہیں شیخ کو کچھ نہ کرنا ہمیں بڑا مزا آتا ہے کافی شغلی باتیں کرتا ہے کیوں ہماری زندگی سے رنگ ختم کنے کا سوچ رہے ہو

حد ہے یار
تمہارے پاس خاجے ہیں،،بٹے ہیں، چودہری ہیں، مکس نسل اور مکس بدن ہیں
ساری دنیا ان سے مزے لیتی ہے،،اور تم شیخ سے؟؟؟کوئی لحاظ کرو،، اوئے بز،رررآگ ہیں،،اپکے راجہ جی

 

[Wadaich]

Agree brother whatever works for pakistan whatever system of governance needed forbetterment of pakistan n its citizen but army needs to continue in the background cleaning activities for next 5 without martial law. We are 97% muslim country its a shame such high alarming levels of corruption. 8 years gotten worst. Thx. I love your thread i dont see any pmln or ppp supporters here dont they care about pakistan.

Thanks Bro.

Remember! Had majority of commoners ever been able to bring change or remain on the right path; Allah Subhanahu would never have felt need to send the Leaders in the form of Prophets. Had the public ever been able to follow the right person; Prophet would have the largest following of their age. Since Adam change has always been brought by a leader (Prophet) followed by few die hard followers. The same is true for our age and the times to come, with the only difference that after Nabi-e-Pak pbuh the Prophet cannot come.