Is There Any Way to Get Rid of Evil Establishment? Your Comments & Suggestions Views?

[Wadaich]

Lekin India is on a right track. Their electoral system is clean and no rigging whatsoever. Aap dekhna India in next 10 yrs will be very different country. Un k log education ki ehmiat ko samajh chuke hein. Un k politicians ko bhi maloom hey ab woh apni public ko mazeed bewaqoof nahin bana sakte. Woh log sahi track per hein. Next 10 yrs mein un k sare corrupt khatam ho jaein ge or Saaf suthre educated log mulk ka nizaam sambhalein ge.
Shayid hamare liye abhi 20 saal aur hun esa system lane k liye. Jab voters sirf vote bank nahin insaan consider kiye jaein ge.

It is a breaking news for me! Sufice to say : Mental slavery has no remedy. Keep on choosing your butcher.

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[Wadaich]

Very well said!

 

[Lann57]

It is very hard to be sure what I believe. We are cowereds has any seen a cowerd snatching his right from a Zalim. So stay where you are and let our children also suffer the same way.
NO REVOLUTION BY COWERDS

 

[Fatema]

It is a breaking news for me! Sufice to say : Mental slavery has no remedy. Keep on choosing your butcher.

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Aap jo bhi samjhein. Hum wahin hon ge agle das saal isi tarha to rahe hon ge aur corrupt nizaam ka solution dhund rahe hun ge. Jo suggestions aap ne ya dusre posters ne diye kiya woh bageir khoob kharaba possible hey? no more blood shed plsss. Jise dekho lashein girane ki baatein kr rahe hein. Kiyunke khud k ghar se ek lash nahin nikli.

 

[Fatema]

It is very hard to be sure what I believe. We are cowereds has any seen a cowerd snatching his right from a Zalim. So stay where you are and let our children also suffer the same way.
NO REVOLUTION BY COWERDS

Zaroori nahin hey laashein girane wale brave hun warna Iraq, Libya, sham kashmir sab se ziyada brave countries hote. System agar clean hoga to mulk bhi clean ho jae ga. Ek country ka Justice system sab se imp hota hey. Us ko clean kr dein. PTI KP mein Yehi kaam kr rahi hey. Ia next 5 yrs mein result samne a jaein ge agar sincerity se ye kaam hue to.

 

[barkat99]

His sincerity and awareness creation may not be able to get the poor masses rid of the sorry state of affairs; as he believes in the current Parliamentary Democracy in which only the riggers, crook, corrupt, and oppressors can get to power. IK stands no chance. He must create awareness to change Parliamentary Democracy into Presidential Democracy or any other (Chinese System). It is the only way he can bring change and it is real change of the system. And this he cannot do without a bloody revolution with public support or with the help of Army.

Why would the army help bring a real change when they are very much part of the status quo. What you are proposing here is based on assumptions which have no basis. Imran is doing what he can do which is bringing awareness and reforms like in Kpk in a gradual manner.

 

[wadda.chaudhry]

Apply this theory to largest democracy of the world i.e. Endia and give me your opinion. Public is begging for toilets.....would like us to get to that level? Check out their Parliament and tell me which class is sitting there? They have evolved into raping innocent women just assuming that she might have eaten Cow Biryani.

Tell me in which developed nation Parliament is not occupied by either the representatives of bloody corporations or the drug mafia according to their economic structure? How many commoners (2 to 5%) are in the Parliament unless they confirm to some secret society? And this they have achieved after decades of iterations of this evil system.

Same theory is used by all democracies in Europe and other developed countries. See europe, UK etc.... Bloody corporations kay representative tou har jaga hon ga, its a corporate world.

Why cannot we get out of the box?

What is your out of box solution?

Why cannot we get out of the box? Is this democratic system holier than any other system? What good the governments under this system has brought to humanity? Had they made this world a better place to live?

Some of them are best social states in the world and it is the result of democracy. See Europe especially Scandinavia...



Out of box kay chakr mein you can't turn the world upside down.
Financial model bhi change karna hai,
political model ko bhi change karna hai,
phir social system bhi acha banana hai........................aur yeh sara kaam siasat.pk ky thread se ho ga. Best of luck.

Bas yeh thread 1-2 din mein peechay chala jaye ga phir wohi puranay naaray marna.

 

[wadda.chaudhry]

جن لوگوں کو گھر والے کمرے سے باہر یہ کہ کے نکال دیتے ہیں کہ بیٹا جائو ہم نے ضروری بات کرنی ہے وہ سوشل میڈیا پر کے پر آ کر انقلاب لانا شرع کر دیتے ہیں۔
سرمایہ دارانہ نظام اور جمہوریت کا کا متبادل دے رہے ہوتے ہیں۔۔۔
فلاحی ریاست بنانے کے نسخے بتا رہے ہوتے ہیں۔۔۔


بھائی یہ موٹر سائیکل نہیں کہ جب دل کیا آئل تبدیل کر لیا۔۔۔۔دنیا اور ملکوں کے نظام بدلنے کی بات ہے۔۔۔۔ نسلیں گزر جاتی ہیں نظام بدلتے بدلتے۔


ہم خود اپنے آپ کو بدلتے نہیں ، اور دنیا کو بدلنے نکل پڑتے ہیں۔

 

[maksyed]

@wadaich, you are right brother ........

 

[rtabasum2]

جن لوگوں کو گھر والے کمرے سے باہر یہ کہ کے نکال دیتے ہیں کہ بیٹا جائو ہم نے ضروری بات کرنی ہے وہ سوشل میڈیا پر کے پر آ کر انقلاب لانا شرع کر دیتے ہیں۔
سرمایہ دارانہ نظام اور جمہوریت کا کا متبادل دے رہے ہوتے ہیں۔۔۔
فلاحی ریاست بنانے کے نسخے بتا رہے ہوتے ہیں۔۔۔


بھائی یہ موٹر سائیکل نہیں کہ جب دل کیا آئل تبدیل کر لیا۔۔۔۔دنیا اور ملکوں کے نظام بدلنے کی بات ہے۔۔۔۔ نسلیں گزر جاتی ہیں نظام بدلتے بدلتے۔


ہم خود اپنے آپ کو بدلتے نہیں ، اور دنیا کو بدلنے نکل پڑتے ہیں۔

The system changes like that ......first you have to change how people think and all kind of media is used.....Egypt revolution n the Arab spring all came about on social media......the paindu PMLN just realised the power of SM n that is why Baji Maryum is spending millions on it........also system does not change if you keep quiet over everything n just wait for next election.......chaos n protest are part of democracy but kitho how can you teach that to Noon supporters who were born under miltary dictator

 

[desan]

It is not our fault. We are brain washed to look nowhere but to this satanic system which breeds evil only. Me too thought so. But got disillusioned. Democracy is an enslavement tool. Again I would refer to "Occupy Wall Street", movements in Greece and Italy etc. What is the condition of common American & European? They are even worse than poor country like ours; with a difference that they are the slaves which are fed little better than us to serve the masters. They start their life with credit card and end it with still indebted to some bank. They earn five days and at the week-end empty their pockets and again start serving to spend next weekends. They duped to call it life style and free life:) The fruits of democracy:lol:

Is there any democracy in China? How they have become a giant by all means?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

Congratulations, China did make it to the top 20!!!

Russia and KSA are the other exceptions that proves the rule that despite it's shortcomings, REAL Democracy (as compared to managed/manipulated one that we have) is the way to go...

 

[Wadaich]

Same theory is used by all democracies in Europe and other developed countries. See europe, UK etc.... Bloody corporations kay representative tou har jaga hon ga, its a corporate world.


What is your out of box solution?



Some of them are best social states in the world and it is the result of democracy. See Europe especially Scandinavia...



Out of box kay chakr mein you can't turn the world upside down.
Financial model bhi change karna hai,
political model ko bhi change karna hai,
phir social system bhi acha banana hai........................aur yeh sara kaam siasat.pk ky thread se ho ga. Best of luck.

Bas yeh thread 1-2 din mein peechay chala jaye ga phir wohi puranay naaray marna.

Be happy! Mental slavery is incurable, so is the vision of a frog in the well.

 

[wadda.chaudhry]

Be happy! Mental slavery is incurable, so is the vision of a frog in the well.

I asked you a question before
What is your out of box solution?

 

[wadda.chaudhry]

The system changes like that ......first you have to change how people think and all kind of media is used.....Egypt revolution n the Arab spring all came about on social media......the paindu PMLN just realised the power of SM n that is why Baji Maryum is spending millions on it........also system does not change if you keep quiet over everything n just wait for next election.......chaos n protest are part of democracy but kitho how can you teach that to Noon supporters who were born under miltary dictator

Arab spring kay baad kay halaat dekhain hain wahan? koi aik country jo stable hoa hai revolution kay baad?

 

[rtabasum2]

Arab spring kay baad kay halaat dekhain hain wahan? koi aik country jo stable hoa hai revolution kay baad?

Does not matter ..........we won't let this thief to rule us in peace

 

[wadda.chaudhry]

Does not matter ..........we won't let this thief to rule us in peace

چلاتے رہو ہوا میں تیر۔۔۔

 

[gazoomartian]

Inspite of so many years of hopelessness,

suddenly unbelievable to see end of year 2015 and 2016 in my Karachi special thanks to rangers,

we, my friends family felt kind of enlightened and so happy and so peaceful enjoying our lives in Karachi as no more bad news from GEO tv every day,

exactly as it was in my childhood days of early 80s

and as my dad and mom describes the awesome Karachi of ayub khan days, so nice, so peaceful, sooo beautiful, they always mentions with a big smile.

Then last 3 years of true opposition by Ik PTi,

then Gen Raheel shareef n jawans did the impossible liberated FATA from termite like terrorists,

then china with its CPEC etc, huge economic impact on entire Pakistan if completed inshallah

my gut feeling is there is hope subhanallah.

As everybody intnl news says corruption bad Pakistani musalmans but due to duas of so many good muslims that still exists in large numbers all around the country, so allahtallah still helping us giving us chances to fix our dirty amaals.

All of us need to appreciate our home ie Pakistan as just read about and look at Afghanistan, India, Iraq, iran, Syria, Libya, yemen etc on intnl news we still are in great shape moral wise, quality of food and general happiness like purwaa Nishtaa, sanu keey, moaj mulung musttt life even the poor, just visit any bazaar, eid days, ramazan days and silently observe its not so bad compared to the countries that I mentioned .

and having Pak army even though not 100% perfect still force to be reckon with to protect Pakistan after allah.Please do duas thats all,
NEW PAKISTAN has all the ingredients needed to become another dubai in a good way not aeeyashee wise inshallah.

:biggthumpup::mash::pakistan-flag-wavin

to each firaun there is a Moosa

Altaf's firauniat has its days, now its time throw away all lashon ki boris

 

[gazoomartian]

Be happy! Mental slavery is incurable, so is the vision of a frog in the well.

loved your comment. How true for the frog ribbit ribbit lol (bigsmile)

 

[Qalumkar]

Our hope was Raheel Sharif but unfortunately he proved to be a pet of Nawaz Sharif. Now Allah Almighty is our last hope. Who is The Greatest Planner!!!

 

[gazoomartian]

Our hope was Raheel Sharif but unfortunately he proved to be a pet of Nawaz Sharif. Now Allah Almighty is our last hope. Who is The Greatest Planner!!!

dont forget NS is a Punjabi PM with majority of Corps Comm being Punjabi. Punjabi PM can not be forced out by a Punjabi general, or Punjabi corps commanders.

If the PM and the govt was Sindhi, Mohajir, Pakhtoon, Baloch, (any other than Punjabi), several suo moto would have been taken by now.

You agree or disagree or throw shoes at me, that's my take based on my wisdom, age, and experience.