Indian Media wants a war

[sher_khan]

To all the Pakistanis:

I know that we get provoked by the Indians. However, I am a little disappoined by some of the comments that have been made regarding the Muslims residing in India.

Just because someone puts a muslim in his/her username does not guarantee that he/she is a muslim. It is very possible that the username is being used for the provocation purposes. In our responses we don't have to generalize about all the muslims in India and state disrespectful things about them.

It is quite clear that, whether muslim or not, the Indian_Muslim is considerably uneducated. Just because Indians are getting 3 or 4 month computer diplomats, does not mean that they have the analytical capability of an educated individual.

Hence it is not fair to project one person's attributes to a big section of the Indian Muslim society or make vulgur comments about them.

Well, it's just my opinion. It's a free world. You can say what ever you want.

 

[commander]

Oops looks like yet another round of india-pak bashing going on. This should be made into Olympic game or at least a commonwealth game. This kind of bashing doesn't improve anything but is enjoyable non the less. My request to you guys will be not to involve my religion. After all debate till now is between Indian Muslim and Pakistan Muslim. All the best Indian Muslim , whatever these Pakistani web zihadis say I beleieve you are a true Muslim. Indian Muslims are the most intelligent Muslims in The world. Now does anyone want to talk about Indian media, I thought this was the topic of post.

Every one is true Muslim, no need to get certificate from anyone.

"Indian Muslim are most Intelligent Muslims", see what is happening with them in India. In what inhuman condition are they living there. What happend with them in Gujarat.

 

[taul]

---I Agree,I've got loads of Indian muslim friends and the reason i like them is they stand by their true identity which makes us muslims all around Proud,not just in any particular part of the world... :)..

--I haven't come across any indian or for that matter any muslim who says his faith and religion is his/her "Country" :o :shock: :shock: ..this guy is simply mesmerized by and taken aback by all what's going on and projected in their bollywood movies :lol: :D

--I can bet this "indian muslim"is either deceiving all to just play around and make a fool of only himself and being a moron :P ..OR he's lost his way completely while getting to achieve and fit in hindu dominated society what he thinks he may not by being his true himself :shock: :oops:

 

[taggtow]

Understanding Muhammad: A Psychobiography of Allah's Prophet
By Ali Sina

All Muslim groups are terrorists. This does not mean every Muslim is a terrorist. But if someone launches an Islamic group to advance Islam, under any pretext, whether peaceful of not, be careful of his intentions. Muslims fight for the same cause the domination of Islam and the overthrow of all non Muslim governments. Their modus operandi is different. Some opt direct fighting and others covert fighting.

Last February, a Pakistani American who started a Muslim TV channel in the US to counter negative portrayal of Islam after the 9/11 terror attacks, beheaded his estranged wife in a very Islamic fashion. This man was clean shaven who wore suit and tie and was looking quite westernized and modernized.

A Muslim is a Muslim is a Muslim. Dont let them confuse you with charades like Islam is not a monolithic religion, or honor killing is cultural, and other nonsense. A peaceful Muslim is a contradiction in terms. It is an oxymoron. Have you seen a hot ice? There is less chance to find a peaceful Muslim. The very fact that they keep reminding us that Islam is a religion of peace is because it is not. Why the followers of other religions dont feel such an urge to constantly tell others their religion means peace? The proof of perfume is in its smell, not because its written on its label.

Now, dont get me wrong. I am not saying all Muslims are violent and terrorists. There are many good people who call themselves Muslims. They are the majority. But they are good to the extent that they diverge from Islam. These same good people can turn dangerous when they remember they are Muslims.

Jihad stands on two feet. One is terror and the other is deception or taqiyyah. Both are essential for the advancement of Islam. Which foot you put forward depends on the situation. When Muslims are weak, taqiyyah is the best approach and when they are strong, rob (terror) is prescribed. This is sunnah, the example set by Muhammad. He used both terror and deception to advance his cause. Muhammad said war is deception and al nasro fil rob (victory is in terror). He bragged, I have been made victorious with terror

 

[pak_karachi]

rEALITY OF INDIAN MUSLIM

THEY CANT BUY HOUSE IN MUMBAI ...WAT A SHAME....SPIT AND THEN DIE IN UR SPIT....ITS SPIT NOT SHIT SO DUN TRY IN UR SHIT..

BRAVE PPL DO NOT ALWAYS WIN BUT LEARN FROM THEIR DISASTERS... WE LEARNT ALOT FROM 71 BUT DO NOT FORGET 65 WHEN UR TAILS REFUSED TO COVER UR ARSES:p

DONT FORGET YOUR NUCLEAR MISSLES ARE FAKE ..ACCEPTED BY UR SCIENTIST..

DUN FPRGET JASWANT SINGH WRITING ABOUT JINNAH THEY UR ARSES BURNT LIKE ASHES

DUN FORGET HINDU COSIDER U AS A PIECE OF THIER SHIT...

INDINA MUSLIMS ARE THERE TO CLAP FOR INDIAN SOLDIERS SHITS EVEN..THATS IS WAT THEY KEPT U FOR ....EXAMPLE IS HERRE

WAT U DID IN 71 THEY WERE ALL HINDU FORCES SEE U STILL CLAPPING

 

[sher_khan]

Understanding Muhammad: A Psychobiography of Allah's Prophet
By Ali Sina

All Muslim groups are terrorists. This does not mean every Muslim is a terrorist. But if someone launches an Islamic group to advance Islam, under any pretext, whether peaceful of not, be careful of his intentions. Muslims fight for the same cause the domination of Islam and the overthrow of all non Muslim governments. Their modus operandi is different. Some opt direct fighting and others covert fighting.

Last February, a Pakistani American who started a Muslim TV channel in the US to counter negative portrayal of Islam after the 9/11 terror attacks, beheaded his estranged wife in a very Islamic fashion. This man was clean shaven who wore suit and tie and was looking quite westernized and modernized.

A Muslim is a Muslim is a Muslim. Dont let them confuse you with charades like Islam is not a monolithic religion, or honor killing is cultural, and other nonsense. A peaceful Muslim is a contradiction in terms. It is an oxymoron. Have you seen a hot ice? There is less chance to find a peaceful Muslim. The very fact that they keep reminding us that Islam is a religion of peace is because it is not. Why the followers of other religions dont feel such an urge to constantly tell others their religion means peace? The proof of perfume is in its smell, not because its written on its label.

Now, dont get me wrong. I am not saying all Muslims are violent and terrorists. There are many good people who call themselves Muslims. They are the majority. But they are good to the extent that they diverge from Islam. These same good people can turn dangerous when they remember they are Muslims.

Jihad stands on two feet. One is terror and the other is deception or taqiyyah. Both are essential for the advancement of Islam. Which foot you put forward depends on the situation. When Muslims are weak, taqiyyah is the best approach and when they are strong, rob (terror) is prescribed. This is sunnah, the example set by Muhammad. He used both terror and deception to advance his cause. Muhammad said war is deception and al nasro fil rob (victory is in terror). He bragged, I have been made victorious with terror

Do you have any thoughts of your own on the subject or you are going to plagiarize all of the Ali Sinas views?

It is a well known fact that Ali Sina is a disgruntled ex-muslim. The only thing he has for Islam is unlimited abhorrence for it.

Would you expect a Nazi sympathizer to write an objective essay/commentary on Judaism and people who practice it?

You see, in order to report and give weight to an evidence, the evidence has to be sufficient and appropriate. In other words trust worthy.

Reciting a part of an essay/article of an Islam-hater is of no value because of the obvious bias. It will be no different than taking into account a testimony of a disgruntled ex-employee of the organization in a non-related case in which the organization is a defendant. (The employee was fired for poor attitude at the work place.) Any court of law will not find his testimony trust worthy.

When you come up with some better evidence and can justify your hate for Islam more effectively, post it on this forum and we will respond to it.

One thing is for sure, there was no fatwa to kill Ali Sina. I guess the propaganda by people like you that Muslims are not tolerant people turned out to be baseless.

 

[pak_karachi]

INDIAN NEEDS TO STOP CRYIN GPLEASE..WE WILL GIVE U STICK TO KEEP U SHUT...DO U NEED STICK OR U WILL KEEP QUITE URSELF

AND THE THING OF AMERIC THAT IS OUR PLAN TO HIT U HARD,..DUN WORRY U FOOLS SEE WAT WE DO TO AMERICAN AND YOU IN THE END

EVERYTHING IS FAIR IN LOVE AND WAR...SO WAIT AND SEE OUR DRAMA ...BUT KEEP IN MIND END IS

INDIA GONE WITH THE WIND LIKE A STINKNING SMELL

WE WILL PUT AIR FRESHNER ON U ...U R MAKING THIS WORLD FILTHY AND DIRTY

 

[jimpack]

Stop begging around the world for Aid. Stop building Castle's in air.

 

[digitalzygot]

Stop cheap/free prostitution in the world, stop begging russia, stop drinking cow piss, stop.......well there are so mant things jimpack *sigh* FEED YOUR PEOPLE and again shove it.......... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: up LOL

 

[foqia khan]

@taggtow

1. who Ali sina (no information).

2. Educational background ( no information).

3. just by starting a website and giving himself a muslim name doesn't make him a worthy person.so his article means nothing.

4. only the example of perfume is very right bcoz instead of so many websites using the tactics of cut and paste materials and making false propaganda against Islamic teachings still
can't stop and compete the growth rate of conversion to Islam.

5.Taqiyya already discussed on the follwing link:
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=6674&p=22540#p22540

 

[shaheedchoudry]

Can't wait to kick their arses

I never saw a jackal beat a lion, he spends whole life keeping his tail between his legs.

KALMA SUNAO

 

[Nepali Pandit]

Stop cheap/free prostitution in the world, stop begging russia, stop drinking cow piss, stop.......well there are so mant things jimpack *sigh* FEED YOUR PEOPLE and again shove it.......... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: up LOL

Pakistan is the biggest begger in the world right now. So who would be biggest prostitute? However I don't like to use sexist remark to describe any nation. India pays for the arms she buys from Russia . My request to you would be to get civilized, read some books, learn some manners. You proved that it's useless to debate with web zihades like you and few others in this forum. So go on crapping Loser .....

 

[shaheedchoudry]

Stop cheap/free prostitution in the world, stop begging russia, stop drinking cow piss, stop.......well there are so mant things jimpack *sigh* FEED YOUR PEOPLE and again shove it.......... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: up LOL

Pakistan is the biggest begger in the world right now. So who would be biggest prostitute? However I don't like to use sexist remark to describe any nation. India pays for the arms she buys from Russia . My request to you would be to get civilized, read some books, learn some manners. You proved that it's useless to debate with web zihades like you and few others in this forum. So go on crapping Loser .....

India's foreign debt higher by 23 per cent
Submitted by Neeta Aurora on Mon, 09/17/2007 - 19:30. India BusinessIndia News
Total foreign debt for India increased by 28.5 billion dollars to touch $155 billion during financial year 2006-07. This is an increase of nearly 23 per cent. The US dollar was weak compared to other international currencies and 10 % of rise can be attributed to weak dollar.

The figures stood at 126.5 billion dollars during the last year.

The finance ministry issued the report 'India's External Debt: A Status Report'. As per the report, "Almost 10 per cent of the addition in total external debt ($28.5 billion) during the year was ascribed to a valuation change as a result of the weakening US dollar vis-a-vis other major international currencies."

The external debt accounts for nearly 16.4% of Gross Domestic Product (GDP) of India. Current foreign exchange reserves of India stood at one and half times its total external debt.

As per the report from finance ministry, more than half of the increase in foreign debt was from borrowing by Indian companies. Indian companies raised money from overseas sources as the rate of interest was lower. Many Indian companies have acquired stake in foreign companies and the money was raised from overseas sources in many cases.

Other major factors for the rise were NRI deposits, short term debts and multilateral debts.
Pakistan's debt burden is significant. It has nearly $3 billion in commercial foreign debt and $38 billion in concessionary loans from the International Monetary Fund and the Paris Club, an informal lending group of about 20 countries, according to an estimate by Credit Suisse (CS) analyst Farid Khan. Payments on dollar-denominated bonds continue, but in February a $500 million bond comes due, bringing debt servicing costs for 2008 to more than $3 billion, according to a government estimate.

 

[jimpack]

@ shaheedchoudry - this is the reality.... don't worry about India

This is what it feels like when a country faces bankruptcy. The electricity goes out for as much as 12 hours a day, the gasoline lines get longer, and depositors rush to banks to pull out their meager savings. After weeks of begging in vain for help from the international community, Pakistan's foreign exchange reserves have dropped to just $4.3 billion, down nearly 75% in the past year because of soaring prices for commodities, particularly oil, which accounts for about one-third of imports. The country presently has only enough cash to pay for about 45 days of imports at current rates. And the rupee has lost about 25% so far this year. Unlike Iceland, whose economy collapsed (BusinessWeek.com, 10/9/08) as a direct result of the global credit crunch, Pakistan's problems are largely homegrown.

Already the country has cut its oil imports so it holds no more than 10 days' supply at any given time. Inflation is raging at more than 24%.

With global arteries of credit still constricted, Pakistan's already toxic debtrated the second-worst in the world by Standard & Poor'smakes it impossible for the country to get bridge loans to make partial payments on outstanding loans. Just this past week, Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari used his first state visit to China to ask for a loan to Pakistan's central bank, reported by Chinese media to be as large as $2 billion. China said no, but offered to increase bilateral trade and will consider building two nuclear reactors in the country.

Pakistan's debt burden is significant. It has nearly $3 billion in commercial foreign debt and $38 billion in concessionary loans from the International Monetary Fund and the Paris Club, an informal lending group of about 20 countries, according to an estimate by Credit Suisse (CS) analyst Farid Khan. Payments on dollar-denominated bonds continue, but in February a $500 million bond comes due, bringing debt servicing costs for 2008 to more than $3 billion, according to a government estimate.

Just to keep afloat, Pakistan's recently appointed financial adviser to the Prime Minister, Shaukat Tarin, has asked the World Bank, the Asian Development Bank, and other lenders for just under $4 billion in loans.

And then there's the measure of last resortthe International Monetary Fund, which is likely to impose strict tariff reductions in exchange for the loans. It's not a pleasant option for Pakistan, which has tried for decades to be free of the IMF's influence. Already, a team from Pakistan has been meeting with the IMF in Washington. "We don't have the luxury of foreign exchange reserves to prolong negotiations by a few months," says Sherani. "So the closer [Pakistan] gets to running out of foreign exchange, the likelihood of turning to the IMF gets stronger."

 

[taul]

Stop begging around the world for Aid. Stop building Castle's in air.

---You should stop living in fool's paradise :oops: :oops: and better have some introspection as well :geek://We've survived for 62 years and will continue to do so amidst all this mayhem :) So needless to throw tantrums better save for your Poor fellows :ugeek:..Ya'll presence here alone suggests the insecurities and complexes you suffer :o :D

 

[taul]

Pakistan is the biggest begger in the world right now. So who would be biggest prostitute? However I don't like to use sexist remark to describe any nation. India pays for the arms she buys from Russia . My request to you would be to get civilized, read some books, learn some manners. You proved that it's useless to debate with web zihades like you and few others in this forum. So go on crapping Loser .....

--You kinda pick things from here n there and paste em :roll: :roll: that's fine your all ancestors have been dusted infact turned to ashes,yet they weren't do even a miniscule damage to us :ugeek: ..learn from them and stop agonizing yourselves further,though we all know we'll be perceived as thorns to you no matter what 8-) :lol: :lol:..You stoop to the dummest levels to get across :oops: :oops: :P

 

[jimpack]

Stop begging around the world for Aid. Stop building Castle's in air.

---You should stop living in fool's paradise :oops: :oops: and better have some introspection as well :geek:

If you can answer something concrete please do answer, don't show your stupidity. What is said is true, it is you guys who are asking for aid from whole world.

India on Friday said it will lend up to $10 billion to the International Monetary Fund to make funds available to countries in need.


"India intends to make available up to $10 billion to shore-up the resources of the IMF," an official statement said.

It is quite a change that India, which had to resort to IMF financing till the early 1990s on a few occasions, is now participating in an international effort to make resources available to the fund for lending to nations in need.

 

[digitalzygot]

Poor Indians same propaganda again and again :mrgreen: :mrgreen: again suck it up and shove it up all your hatred

 

[jimpack]

Poor Indians same propaganda again and again :mrgreen: :mrgreen: again suck it up and shove it up all your hatred

@ digitalzygot

Truth will always look like propaganda for you guys. This is what you guys have believed for last 60 years and it is very hard to imagine if things will change if peoply have mind set like yours. This shows the mentality you have about facing the reality.

Stop acting like an idiot.

 

[digitalzygot]

I call it better diplomacy, we have succeeded in making world give us billions of $'s to clear their mess, it's fair as it has badly hurt our economy but we will come back even stronger, you guys are so jealous and suck so bad, india beggs to russia and israel for everything and in turn they get free girls and booze, feed your own people so they don't look malnourished, dehydrated......