Idiotic Media's Idiot Heros, Zamurd Khan A Hero ??

Pak1stani

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Will you advise someone to go to beauty parlor when he/she need to be treated at hospital?



BRAVE bcoz he risked his own life...WISE bcoz nobody got killed:biggthumpup: oh acha aap rana sanaullah ka statement repeat ker rahein hain:biggthumpup:
 

miafridi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
There's one truck-sized flaw in the feel-good-emo video above...

That is the US has writ of their state within their state. Everywhere else in the world, where foreign nations have gone in, is mostly because those nations can't establish writ in their own homelands.

So, if a day comes when Americans are unable to establish writ of the state within the US, and Chinese or Russians can by going in there, I would be all in favour of such actions by Chinese or Russians etc.

We do not live in an isolated little world of our imaginations where we can do anything and there're no repercussions and that no one should touch us. We live in the real world. So if the US wants Al-Qaeda, then you better hand them over to it or they will stomp into every single square inch of this planet to 'get' them at any cost.

Live with that, because it is the fact.

Its not about who supports who. No matter you support chinese or russians killing innocent people inside US(while only a handful of them are guilty) when they won't have writ. Its about the human nature. You go on killing people they will react against you. Reaction is in the nature of human beings. There are lot more better and effective ways to deal with such situations than to just go and start killing most of the population in which majority is not your enemy but will become your enemy when they or their family gets killed. So killing is not the solution. Whether Pakistan or the international community are serious about issues they should think of effective ways and shouldn't be indulged in using power. And you can see that now the world powers have realized that the war on terror isn't going to end with war but instead have widened. More American haters have been produced than it was before 9/11.

Also the above perspective is just the solution but do you know the intentions super powers? China will become super power if not stopped. Russia still has power... Iran is Isreal's and US biggest rival.. All of them lie around Afghanistan and Pakistan.. So this aspect of US playing its game can't also be ruled out. Afghanistan was perhaps thought to be an easier target but it turned out to be the worst choice for US.
 

nvra911

MPA (400+ posts)
Its not about who supports who. No matter you support chinese or russians killing innocent people inside US(while only a handful of them are guilty) when they won't have writ. Its about the human nature. You go on killing people they will react against you. Reaction is in the nature of human beings. [HI]There are lot more better and effective ways to deal with such situations[/HI] than to just go and start killing most of the population in which majority is not your enemy but will become your enemy when they or their family gets killed. So killing is not the solution. Whether Pakistan or the international community are serious about issues they should think of effective ways and shouldn't be indulged in using power. And you can see that now the world powers have realized that the war on terror isn't going to end with war but instead have widened. More American haters have been produced than it was before 9/11.

Also the above perspective is just the solution but do you know the intentions super powers? China will become super power if not stopped. Russia still has power... [HI]Iran is Isreal's and US biggest rival[/HI].. All of them lie around Afghanistan and Pakistan.. So this aspect of US playing its game can't also be ruled out. Afghanistan was perhaps thought to be an easier target but it turned out to be the worst choice for US.
Dude I appreciate your way of thinking but answer me a few questions:


1. When Japan behaved aggressively, US bombed it. When Japan behaved progressively, US helped it become the second biggest economy. It is not US who decides your fate, it is the behaviour of a nation that dictates how US (or other superpowers) will behave with it. So, when stronger nations are hitting us, it means we are at fault.

The same example is about US / German war at the time of Hitler and immediately after the Marshall Plan which also made Germany the second biggest economy. Pakistan just doesn't want to behave in a civil progressive manner. Do you not see that??


2. There is no other way to discipline unruly childish behavior other than strictness. Once someone behaves in a civil manner then you can deal with them in other ways but when the question is about lack of decent human behaviour (which Pak people are stuck in) - only ruthless strictness will work.

How can you not see this simple rule?
 

adnan_younus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
simple case thaa.. govt wanted to provide some entertinment to ppl... cordon off the area.. there was AMPLE opportunity to take the wife and kids.. they were roaming easily.. and then seedha knee cap shoot.... it jsut prolonged because of our typical khalifaa geeree..... gun kiseee aur ke paas hai.. police koi aur ahi and politicians mein baat kerta hooon . mein baat kerta hooon.... knee cap jab urrta hai to koi cheez haath mein nahee tiktee...
stupid ?? u think govt ka pane logon ko protect karnay k liye har hadd tak jana stupidity hai ?? aisi buzdilana aur khud gharz aqal aap apne paas he rakhen, jawab nahi aata to stupid ki ratt shuru, idiots
 

aamir_uetn

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
simple case thaa.. govt wanted to provide some entertinment to ppl... cordon off the area.. there was AMPLE opportunity to take the wife and kids.. they were roaming easily.. and then seedha knee cap shoot.... it jsut prolonged because of our typical khalifaa geeree..... gun kiseee aur ke paas hai.. police koi aur ahi and politicians mein baat kerta hooon . mein baat kerta hooon.... knee cap jab urrta hai to koi cheez haath mein nahee tiktee...
dekha , apne leader ki tarah swal gandum jawab chana , yahan drone attack se awam ko bachaney ki baat ho rahi thi, aik maa apne bachay ko bachaaney k liye ***** pay japhat pari aur jaisey logon ko yeh bewaqoofi lagti hai
 

miafridi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Dude I appreciate your way of thinking but answer me a few questions:


1. When Japan behaved aggressively, US bombed it. When Japan behaved progressively, US helped it become the second biggest economy. It is not US who decides your fate, it is the behaviour of a nation that dictates how US (or other superpowers) will behave with it. So, when stronger nations are hitting us, it means we are at fault.

The same example is about US / German war at the time of Hitler and immediately after the Marshall Plan which also made Germany the second biggest economy. Pakistan just doesn't want to behave in a civil progressive manner. Do you not see that??


2. There is no other way to discipline unruly childish behavior other than strictness. Once someone behaves in a civil manner then you can deal with them in other ways but when the question is about lack of decent human behaviour (which Pak people are stuck in) - only ruthless strictness will work.

How can you not see this simple rule?

Every nation has its right to live freely and decide for its own interest. It is interest game and the powerful has to suppress others to keep its power or else it will lose its power, and for this they have to do things to keep its power. Sometimes they get straight forward threads like they got in case of Japan but other times they will create a situation of invasion all by there self. They will plant the virus and then will offer to give you the anti-Virus.

When stronger nation hits you it doesn't only mean that you are at fault. It also means that you are either important for their survival or you are raising voice for your right or rising against them. Its always personal interest that prompt them to invade countries or else they have no reason to intervene.
 

nvra911

MPA (400+ posts)
[HI]Every nation has its right to live freely and decide for its own interest.[/HI] It is interest game and the powerful has to suppress others to keep its power or else it will lose its power, and for this they have to do things to keep its power. Sometimes they get straight forward threads like they got in case of Japan but other times they will create a situation of invasion all by there self. They will plant the virus and then will offer to give you the anti-Virus.

When stronger nation hits you it doesn't only mean that you are at fault. It also means that you are either important for their survival or you are raising voice for your right or rising against them. Its always personal interest that prompt them to invade countries or else they have no reason to intervene.
Wrong.

Try this for a real life example:

Buy 1,000 acres of prime agricultural land in Punjab which is used to grow Wheat. Then leave it unused. By your logic, since it is your land, then you have every right to do whatever you want with it.

However, if you do that, then you will see that the govt. or the people will take that land away from you by force to use it to grow food. No law in the world will protect you either.

Dude, the lesson here is that since you live in this world together you have to behave in a way which is mutually beneficial and not with a 'whatever I want' attitude. This applies to individuals and nations alike.


This brings me to the second point of fairness. Sure Suez Canal Crisis or CIA activities in Iran are facts but that has always been the case in the history of humanity that the powerful derive more benefit from the weak. The servants who work in your home and mine in Pakistan are also an example of that. The only way to save oneself from exploitation is to become developed and only then you will be treated as equals and not exploited. This is how life is - unfair to the weak by default.

The problem with Pakistan is that we have an agenda of doing exactly everything which doesn't make sense. We created Pak in the name of two-nation theory. No other developed nation has ever progressed from such a history. We are against population control due to religious instructions - no other developed countries do that. We never applied fair taxation or land reforms because our State and Establishment are far too busy begging superpowers for money to use it to buy weapons to protect this fragile land from day one. We have no electricity or a quality of life but everyone is proud of the nuclear bomb which is a product of 1947's hateful rift.

So, the problem is that us Pakistani people think that by doing all of these unique nonsense actions we will still be prosperous because we founded a country in the name of Islam and surely that is a guarantee of success no matter how اوٹ پٹانگ our actions are. This 'just-because' self-satisfying reasoning is why we get exploited and NOT BECAUSE SUPERPOWERS LUST AFTER OUR LAND.
 

adnan_younus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
drone se logoan ko bacchaey kee baat???? pehlee baat hai mulk maa nahee hotee... mulk aur logon ke beech contract hota hia.... drones ghalat hein cuz woh hamaree soveriegnty ko violate kertey hein.. warna agar drones hamarey pas hotey to hum bhee use kertey inko taliban khinjeers ko maarney ke liye......
dekha , apne leader ki tarah swal gandum jawab chana , yahan drone attack se awam ko bachaney ki baat ho rahi thi, aik maa apne bachay ko bachaaney k liye ***** pay japhat pari aur jaisey logon ko yeh bewaqoofi lagti hai
 

Abdul jabbar

Minister (2k+ posts)
ppp ky karkuno ko jeyalay isee leay kaha jata hy.ye wo log hain jo smajtay hain,
jo payar kia to peyar kia jo nafrat ke tu nafrat ke. jo samajtay hain ye jan to aani jani hay es jan ke koi bat nahi.jo apni mohabat k leay koray khatay,phansi pr jholtay aor tabah ho jatay hain magar lotay nahi hotay.sach main ye log bahadar hain.in ke aksreat un parh hy es leay in ki bahadri ka apna andaz hy. in k iqdam main iql aor shaoor ka koi dakhal nahi hota. galay par janay wali bahadri aaysay log hi dikha saktay hain.sultan rahi in logon ka hero hy aor aise harkat karnay walay har banday ko ye apna hero samjtay hain. zamurd khan ny apni sarashat k mutabaq he kia aor es ki pazerai isee satah k leaderon ny khoob ke.es silslay main in logon ke hub alwatni, aor bahadri main koi shak nahi hona cha he ay.
afsoos ke bat tu ye hay k es jaysay un skilled shakas ko us banday tk kis ny jany ke ejazat de jo apny he bachon ko yargmal bana ay hoay tha. ye to
Allah pak ka karam huva k sub kuch mehfoz raha agar muamlat ulat ho jatay.?is bahadar hero ke bahadri agr kise baday nuqsan ka sabab ban jati tu zumadar kon hota?
 

aamir_uetn

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
drone se logoan ko bacchaey kee baat???? pehlee baat hai mulk maa nahee hotee... mulk aur logon ke beech contract hota hia.... drones ghalat hein cuz woh hamaree soveriegnty ko violate kertey hein.. warna agar drones hamarey pas hotey to hum bhee use kertey inko taliban khinjeers ko maarney ke liye......

mulk maa nahi hota ?? dharti maa suna hai kabhi ?? riyasat ho gi maa k jaisi bhi nai suna ?? khair maa ho na ho, govt ki pehli responsibility hai apne logon ko protect karna, aap ko pata hai drone attacks mein kitney taliban marey hain aur kitney civilians ?? kitney aisey log hain jin ka bazo tangen nahi hain aaj ?? yeh kahan ka insaf hai aik dehshat gard ko maarne k liye beesiyon masoom ko bhi ura diya jaaiye??
 

آزاد امیدوار

Minister (2k+ posts)
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