I asked my father(Haroon ur Rasheed), what's the matter between you and Aftab Iqbal?

sherkhan314

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: aftab iqbal and haroon ur rasheed

Please write regularly on this forum!! Thanks for sharing this!! Your father is a great man!!

ایک ایسی جماعت کا کارندہ والد کے کاندھے استعمال نا کرنے کی ہدایت دے رہا ہے جن کی جماعت کی لیڈرشپ گھومتی ہی ایک خاندان کے گرد ہے۔ جہاں اپنے والد، تایا، سسر اور بھائی کے کاندھوں کا بے دریغ اور بلا شرم استعمال عام سی بات ہے۔
دوسروں کو نصحیت خود میاں فصحیت



Dear Bilal

Nice to see you on siasat.pk.
I understand your feelings because of Aftab`s bhandpan. But do not worry we know the reality.
I respect your dad because my belief is " friend in need is friend indeed ".
Your dad ( Haroon ur Rasheed sahab ) supported the weakest but most honest politician when all other people, journalists and politicians laughed on my leader.
Many journalists now write and speak in favour of my leader but for me there will be always a difference between Haroon sb and all other journalists.
Favouring the weakest but most honest politician Haroon sb proved himself the best and a honest journalist of our country.

tHANKS FOR SHARING IT bILAL aur Haroon Rasheed sahab to NOORA leage ke galey ka toq hein.....jitne comments unke khilaaf noon leage kerti hai unhein parh ke dil mazeed khush hota hai ke noon league ke log kitne desperate hein HR sahab se...

Good on ya buddy ....... You prove it today shairan day puter v shair e hondy nay


:arms: Aap sab bhaiyon ke liyay aik zor daar japphi !!

(jhanda) Haroon ur Rasheed is the best most neutral journalist in Pakistan especially after he wrote against Imran Khan. Only your true friend speaks the truth and doesnt sugarcoat things!
 

Terminator

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: aftab iqbal and haroon ur rasheed

@bilalurrashid

پوسٹ کرنے کا شکریہ دوست۔ میں ھمیشہ سے جاننا چاھتا تھا آفتاب اقبال کا مسعلہ کیا ھے۔ یہ تو سبھی کو شروع سے معلوم ھے وہ ایک گھٹیا انسان ھے۔

When AI was conducting Hasb-e-Hall I considered him a decent and mature Anchor but actually he is not! He proved to be a Bhaand and look at his happiness when he is surrounded by Mirasees in his program.
 

maksyed

Siasat.pk - Blogger
برادرم بلال ! الله پاک آپ کے والد صاحب کو صحت و تندرستی دے اور مزید ہمت دے کہ وہ ڈٹ کر ان بدی کے دکانداروں کا مقابلہ کر سکیں - آمین
آفتاب اقبال خسرے نما بھانڈ کی مثال تو بلکل اس شعر کے مصادق آتی ہے

....صحافت کی کالی بھیڑوں کے لیے
میرے وطن کی صحافت کا حال مت پوچھو
بھری ہوئی ہے صحافت تماش بینوں سے

انتہائی معزرت کے ساتھ آفتاب اقبال جیسے بھانڈ کی مثال تو ایک طوائف کی طرح ہیں
نجانے لُطف کیا مِلتا ہے ان کو روز بِکنے میں
طوائف کی طرح لوگو! صحافت روز بِکتی ہے
 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
I dont want to watch his show...it is too cheep and spreading stupidity...

But no worries for Horoon Rasheed....

Haroon is beyond his reach.
 

jangjoo786

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
آفتاب اقبال کا تعلق جرنلسٹوں کے اس تھرڈ کلاس کیٹیگری سے ہے۔
جو پیسوں کیلیے اپنا سب کچھ بیچنے پر ہر گھڑی تیار کامران ہوتا ہے۔
اس کا بیٹھنے کا اور بولنے کا انداز ہی سب کچھ عیاں کرتا ہے کہ اس جیسا
نودولتیہ اپنے آپ کو عقل کل سمجھتا ہے۔
لیکن اب اس ناک بٹہ منہ کو کون سمجھاے کہ کرسی میں ٹھیڑا بیٹھنے سے
اور شکل پر مریخی طرز کی سنجیدگی لانے سے کویی عقلمند و دانشمند نہیں بنتا۔
ہاں۔اس طرح کی مصنوعی شکل و صورت بنانے سے اس کا میراسی پن اور چاپلوس پن
اور بھی نکھر کر سامنے آتا ہے۔
 

Aam_Admi

MPA (400+ posts)
اس میں شک نہیں کہ ہارون صاحب اور آفتاب اقبال بالکل الگ الگ کیٹگری کے اشخاص ہیں تاہم جو مقام و رتبہ ہارون صاحب کو اپنی دانش، ایک خاص طرز تحریر اور دیانت داری کے سبب حاصل ہے آفتاب کو نہیں، گو آفتاب اقبال بھی ایک با صلاحیت شخص ہے لیکن اچانک شہرت نے اس کو غیر متوازن اور بددیانت بنا دیا مجھے یاد ہے کہ ایک پروگرام کے دوران اچانک ہی اس نے معروف شاعر و ڈرامہ نویس امجد اسلام امجد کے لتے لینے شروع کر دیے بالکل بلا وجہ اور بے جوڑ طریقے سے۔ اس وقت تو بات سمجھ میں نہ آئی لیکن اب اندازہ ہو رہا ہے کہ کوئی فرمائش امجد صاحب سے بھی کی گئی ہوگی اور پوری نہ ہونے پر یہ انداز اپنایا گیا۔ لیکن ہارون صاحب کا جلد اشتعال میں آنا اور ان کی بڑہتی ہوئی جنجھلاہٹ بھی میری سمجھ میں نہیں آتی ہے کیا بلال اس پر بھی روشنی ڈالیں گے؟
 

Sedqal

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
گو آفتاب اقبال بھی ایک با صلاحیت شخص ہے لیکن اچانک شہرت نے اس کو غیر متوازن اور بددیانت بنا دیا مجھے یاد ہے کہ ایک پروگرام کے دوران اچانک ہی اس نے معروف شاعر و ڈرامہ نویس امجد اسلام امجد کے لتے لینے شروع کر دیے بالکل بلا وجہ اور بے جوڑ طریقے سے۔

Aftab was the guest in one episode of Geo's Aik din Geo kay Sath'. I found his attitude to be arrogant and his behavior with his wife to be detestable.

[This of course does not mean that 'Lakhnavi' style of HR's marsias turned articles are tolerable]
 

ranaji

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Re: aftab iqbal and haroon ur rasheed

آفتاب اقبال نے اپنے شو کو بلیک میلنگ اور ذاتی رنجش کا ذریہ بنا لیا ہے جو کے میری نظر میں ایک جرم ہے اگر یہ باز نہیں آتا تو اس کے خیلاف ہتک عزت کے ساتھ بلیک میلنگ کا کیس فائل کرنا چاہیے
barca bhai ghanti kon bandhey gaa ?
 

v r imran k

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
personal grevience niklata hay yay shaks ...................non leage kay kahrchay per .harooun rashid sb ko kion bay izzat ekrta hy iss liay kay nawaz sharif ko expose kerta hy ,,,,,,,,,,iss liay???.mazratt kay sath aftab iqbal sumiat jitnay b bhaand behtay hoty hian ,,,,,,,,kia wo riay wind kay karhcay per nahi hoty.....zahir hy jub aftab iqbal raiwnd sy kharcah pani lay ga to nimak halali b to iss ka farz banta hy,.,,,,,,,,,,bhoot siayana smjta hy ...hasan nisar ki tara yay bg yahi samjta hy iss jesa parha likha our samjhdar falsfai genious inssan iss roay zameen per nahi hy ...............yay hum pun jabioun ka aik complex hy kay zara si angreezi bolna bat kerna kia agiee..logun ko thik kernay ka mission un kay hijjay talafaz dursut kernay chal perty hian..............bahlay apnay peenday mian hasan nisar ki tara bhoot barra soorakh hi kion na hooooooooooo.............iss shaks per likhna b shaid alfaz zaya kernay kay mutradif hy ...jin kay dimagh satwian7th assamn per poucnhay hun..............khulasa yay hy chand per thoknay sy thok apnay munh per hi a ker girta hy .kahan aftab iqbal jesa warstail jaleebi bai...kahan haroun rashid sb .............kionkay jaleebi bai to mujra our bhaand ker kama sakti hy .haroun rashid sb apnay hsaq halal ki kamiee per guzr basar kernay adi hian
 

xshadow

Minister (2k+ posts)
@bilalurrashid

I have huge complaints about your Dad's writings, he goes on without really saying much. Most of what he writes is meaningless in the context of the articles. Why he doesnt keep on the topic rather than wondering around?

Secondly, he also misguides people with his fairy tales about certain spiritually endowed people. For example in this piece, he is telling Aftab, Allah SWT doesnt share His SWT Powers with any one, but same Haroon Rashid regularly writes about those who know the future and the unseen (nauzobillah). A Power Allah SWT shares with no one, not even with the Prophets, according to the Qurnaic decrees.

Thirdly, he is wholly unjustified in his support of Kiyani. Kiyani is the worst thing happened to Pakistani Army for generations. This man was involved in NRO which has brought chaos to Pakistan and facilitated the rule of the corrupt leaders.

Kiyani's negligence is allowing the corrupt tola to lot Pakistan, according to the NAB chairman, appointed and supported by PPP, Pakistan losing billions every day due to corruption. While Kiyani is smoking his cigarettes, thinking. According to your dad, he is a thinking man.
Well, Pakistan need an action man right now. Hasn't he done enough thinking, yet?
What good would be his thinking when Pakistan is destroyed?

Kiyani had played his part in the resumption of NATO supplies, without US offering any apology for the death of Pakistani soldiers, under the command of Kiyani. Why? Why the supplies were delayed if no apology and no new conditions, in writing as it was claimed to Pakistani nation. If there are changes to the terms and conditions for the supplies, why they are not shared with Pakistani nation?

I know tomorrow when Kiyani is under attack, your Dad would come to his rescue, unfairly it must be said.

I think, your Dad does a great disservice to people of Pakistan on the points I listed above.

Your opposition to Haroon Rasheed doesn't make any sense either as only a few people are on your side. I know it's not a criteria to judge right or wrong but the fact of the matter is that Haroon Rasheed can't give anything to a common person. People like Haroon Rasheed because he exposes the status quo powers. There are always left handed people like you who try to be intellectual so that the could support status quo as they're beneficially of this pathetic system..
Don't you see who Haroon Rasheed opposes in his article. Don't you believe he exposes the corrupt dogs in our society.
You talked about Gen. Kiyani and blah blah blah.
Look, we're living in a society where everybody is bypassing his duty one way or the other. It's not mean that we have to curse on everybody. We need hope to keep us alive. You can disagree with policies but why do you try to paint them as totally corrupt as the government bitches. Are you trying to say that if Zardari/Nuwaz is corrupt and so the Gen. Kiyani is. If you're trying to compare Zardari/Nuwaz or any of his ***** with Gen. Kiyani or Haroon Rasheed then you're wrong.
I don't know how much do you disagree with Haroon Rasheed or Gen. Kiyani or any other fade hope in this country but let me tell you that if you keep saying like that then you're also gonna be considered one of those bloody government(both center and provincial) party's hired dog who have no excuse of total failure of their governance.
Gen. Kiyani, Haroon Rasheed, Imran Khan and many right hand people may have moral issues but it's not mean that they are not loyal to the nation. They're are all much much batter than the parliament dogs. So back off now.
 
Is post ki zuban se hi andaza ho raha hai k Bilal sb k dimagh mein kya chal raha hai. Aftab Iqbal ne na tau Haroon sb k mutalliq "Mujra" ka lafz istaemal kiya na un k liye aur koi na zeba gugtagoo ki.

Yeh kaisa beta hai jo apne baap k mutalliq khud hi "mujra" jaisa lafz istaemal kar k logon ko aisi ghatiya bat sochne par majboor kar raha hai. Ya tau yeh poster fake Bilal Haroon hai ya phir yeh bhi apne baap k mutalliq kuch achi raye nahin rakhta shayed.

O Khuda k bande jab kisi ne tere bap ko gali nahin di tau khud kiyun de raha ho?

Waise, Bilal sb kisi din apne walid sb se yeh bhi poochhiye ga k wo sara sara din ISPR kya karte rehte hain? Aik 'sache' aur 'sufi' columnist ka kya kam hai k wo Jarnailon k daftron se chipak kar baitha rahe?
 

crankthskunk

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Your opposition to Haroon Rasheed doesn't make any sense either as only a few people are on your side. I know it's not a criteria to judge right or wrong but the fact of the matter is that Haroon Rasheed can't give anything to a common person. People like Haroon Rasheed because he exposes the status quo powers. There are always left handed people like you who try to be intellectual so that the could support status quo as they're beneficially of this pathetic system..
Don't you see who Haroon Rasheed opposes in his article. Don't you believe he exposes the corrupt dogs in our society.
You talked about Gen. Kiyani and blah blah blah.
Look, we're living in a society where everybody is bypassing his duty one way or the other. It's not mean that we have to curse on everybody. We need hope to keep us alive. You can disagree with policies but why do you try to paint them as totally corrupt as the government bitches. Are you trying to say that if Zardari/Nuwaz is corrupt and so the Gen. Kiyani is. If you're trying to compare Zardari/Nuwaz or any of his ***** with Gen. Kiyani or Haroon Rasheed then you're wrong.
I don't know how much do you disagree with Haroon Rasheed or Gen. Kiyani or any other fade hope in this country but let me tell you that if you keep saying like that then you're also gonna be considered one of those bloody government(both center and provincial) party's hired dog who have no excuse of total failure of their governance.
Gen. Kiyani, Haroon Rasheed, Imran Khan and many right hand people may have moral issues but it's not mean that they are not loyal to the nation. They're are all much much batter than the parliament dogs. So back off now.

Brother, you are misinformed. I am against the status quo completely. I write against it all the time. You are also wrong to think, I am beneficial to the system in Pakistan, neither I belong to left or right.

You are writing on a tangent, do you read my articles? I write openly against the corruption of both PPP and PMLN all the time in my articles and in my frequent comments on this forum. Those who are regular readers here, wouldn't agree with your comments about me supporting status quo.

The rest I will try to answer you point by point.

1- First, I only object to two regular features in HR columns. He frequently writes about people, who he thinks know the future. I deplore that in the light of the teachings of the Holy Quran. And you think I am leftist??????/(bigsmile) Oh boy. That's why I wrote, according to the Holy Quran Allah SWT doesn't share His SWT's Power of knowing the Unseen with anyone, not even with the prophets.

2- Secondly, I object to HR supporting General Kiyani regularly in his articles. I think you are wrong to suggest people disagree with me on this point. There may be many who would, but there is vast majority who thinks the same way and don't like Kiyani either. I have absolutely no problem with Kiyani on personal level. He may or may not be a good guy, that is beside the point.

I am more interested in what he has done, and what his role had been in the current events in Pakistan.

A- He was involved and facilitated the NRO.
B- He was responsible, even partially to give guard of honor to Musharaf and him leaving Pakistan.
C- The NRO brought this corrupt crops of Politicians to the power, they are looting and destroying Pakistan for last 4 years.
D- See the role of Kiyani in NATO supply stoppage and now its re-opening. Tell me what did he achieved? Just one thing in last few months which is fundamentally different than when the NATO supplies were stopped?
E- I don't know if you are aware of it or not, but there are many stories about the corruption of Kiyani's brother.

You are wrong, most of people on this forum would agree with me on Kiyani.
I am not against HR or dislike him per say, but I am entitle to criticise parts of his writings, which I happened to disagree with. I am sure even HR wouldn't mind that. Thank you.
 

xshadow

Minister (2k+ posts)
Brother, you are misinformed. I am against the status quo completely. I write against it all the time. You are also wrong to think, I am beneficial to the system in Pakistan, neither I belong to left or right.

You are writing on a tangent, do you read my articles? I write openly against the corruption of both PPP and PMLN all the time in my articles and in my frequent comments on this forum. Those who are regular readers here, wouldn't agree with your comments about me supporting status quo.

The rest I will try to answer you point by point.

1- First, I only object to two regular features in HR columns. He frequently writes about people, who he thinks know the future. I deplore that in the light of the teachings of the Holy Quran. And you think I am leftist??????/(bigsmile) Oh boy. That's why I wrote, according to the Holy Quran Allah SWT doesn't share His SWT's Power of knowing the Unseen with anyone, not even with the prophets.

2- Secondly, I object to HR supporting General Kiyani regularly in his articles. I think you are wrong to suggest people disagree with me on this point. There may be many who would, but there is vast majority who thinks the same way and don't like Kiyani either. I have absolutely no problem with Kiyani on personal level. He may or may not be a good guy, that is beside the point.

I am more interested in what he has done, and what his role had been in the current events in Pakistan.

A- He was involved and facilitated the NRO.
B- He was responsible, even partially to give guard of honor to Musharaf and him leaving Pakistan.
C- The NRO brought this corrupt crops of Politicians to the power, they are looting and destroying Pakistan for last 4 years.
D- See the role of Kiyani in NATO supply stoppage and now its re-opening. Tell me what did he achieved? Just one thing in last few months which is fundamentally different than when the NATO supplies were stopped?
E- I don't know if you are aware of it or not, but there are many stories about the corruption of Kiyani's brother.

You are wrong, most of people on this forum would agree with me on Kiyani.
I am not against HR or dislike him per say, but I am entitle to criticise parts of his writings, which I happened to disagree with. I am sure even HR wouldn't mind that. Thank you.

Well, I've also made my points very clear.

Nobody is perfact in Pakistan. Everybody has issues with his duty, morally and nationally. Even the most favorite leader Imran Kahan has some weaknesses. But is that mean that we treat everybody with the black faces of our status quo? You want us left with no hope? May be I can argue more than you about the real duties of Gen. Kiyani. May be I can point out more issues than you about Haroon Rasheed. May be I can point out many mistakes of Imran Khan batter than everybody else. May be I know Gen. Kiyani's blunders more than you. So what, hun?

At this time when the traitors are sucking the blood of nation, if I try to be intellectual like you then I' don't do any good with the nation rather I indirectly support the status quo. Because I want to let these right-hand-people remove the traitors and then I will see their own faces too that how could they keep their promises. Let them have our full support regardless of their negative sides so that they could remove this crap from the government. I want to give full support who opposes status qou because I know that they could refine themselves too as they believe in it.

You can disagree about HR but do you really believe that he doesn't believe in self refinement? Do you really believe that HR has his personal interests for speaking any surprise thing? I don't know how you say that HR speaks like he knows the future. Many of us speak everyday to predict something which doesn't mean we try to pretend to have the knowledge of future. So don't be silly.

آپ خود بتاو کہ کون ہے جو بلا خوف ایم کیو ایم کی بھتہ خوری اور قتل عام کے بارے میں بولتا ہے۔ جرات کس میں جو الطاف حسین کو میڈیا پہ آکر کھری کھری سنائے۔ یا تو کہہ دو کہ الطاف حسین ٹھیک ہے اور ہارون رشید کو ویسے ہی میڈیا پہ آنے کا شوق ہے اور کراچی کے لوگوں کو تو جن مار کر غائب ہوجاتے ہیں۔
آپ بتا دو کہ کیا ہارون رشید عمران خان پہ تنگید نہہں کرتا اسکے باوجود کہ وہ عمران خان کو سپورٹ کرتا ہے۔
پتہ ہے ہمیں کیا جنرل کیانی کی ڈیوٹی ہے۔ تو کیا کریں۔ اسے کہہ دیتے ہیں کہ کیوں سپلائی کھل گئی' کیوں مشرف چلا گیا' کیوں این ار او ہوگیا' کیوں ریمنڈیوس چلا گیا۔ تو کیا فائدا ہوگا۔ آخر کو جنرل کیانی یہی جواب دے گا کہ میں نے تو حکومت کو نہیں کہا کے سپلائی کھول دے یا مشرف کو جانے دے۔ اور این ار او بھی مشرف اور زرداری کے درمیان ہوا تھا۔ جنرل کیانی نے زیادہ سے زیادہ یہی کہا ہوگا نہ کہ میں موجودہ حکومت کا تختہ نہیں الٹوں گا کیونکہ آئین اجازت نہیں دیتا۔ تو بات گھوم کر آگئی نہ سٹیٹس کوہ پہ جو پچھلی حکومتوں سے ساز باز کرکے اپنی جیبیں بھرتا ہے اور عوامی مسائل حل نہیں کرتا۔ بجلی کیا جنرل کیانی نے دینی ہے۔ ریلوے کیا فوج نے چلانی ہے حالانکہ جس کی تباہی سے سب سے زیادہ نقصان فوج کی نقل و حمل کو ہوا ہے۔
اسلیے اگر انٹیلیکچول بننے کا شوق ہے تو سٹیٹس کوہ پر تنگید کرو نہ کہ سٹیٹس کو کے خلاف اپنے فوجیوں کو مارنا شروع کردو۔ جب نظام ٹھیک ہوگا تو سب اس کی لپیٹ میں آئیں گے۔ آج اگر جنرل کیانی پر یہ ثابت بھی کردو کے اسکی یہ غلطی ہے تو کسی کا باپ آکر اسے مجبور کرے گا کے اپنا عہدہ چھوڑے یا ایک نظام چاہیے جو اسے مجبور کرسکے کہ وہ اپنی زمہ داری نہ نبھانے پر گھر جائے۔




 

crankthskunk

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Well, I've also made my points very clear.

Nobody is perfact in Pakistan. Everybody has issues with his duty, morally and nationally. Even the most favorite leader Imran Kahan has some weaknesses. But is that mean that we treat everybody with the black faces of our status quo? You want us left with no hope? May be I can argue more than you about the real duties of Gen. Kiyani. May be I can point out more issues than you about Haroon Rasheed. May be I can point out many mistakes of Imran Khan batter than everybody else. May be I know Gen. Kiyani's blunders more than you. So what, hun?

At this time when the traitors are sucking the blood of nation, if I try to be intellectual like you then I' don't do any good with the nation rather I indirectly support the status quo. Because I want to let these right-hand-people remove the traitors and then I will see their own faces too that how could they keep their promises. Let them have our full support regardless of their negative sides so that they could remove this crap from the government. I want to give full support who opposes status qou because I know that they could refine themselves too as they believe in it.

You can disagree about HR but do you really believe that he doesn't believe in self refinement? Do you really believe that HR has his personal interests for speaking any surprise thing? I don't know how you say that HR speaks like he knows the future. Many of us speak everyday to predict something which doesn't mean we try to pretend to have the knowledge of future. So don't be silly.

آپ خود بتاو کہ کون ہے جو بلا خوف ایم کیو ایم کی بھتہ خوری اور قتل عام کے بارے میں بولتا ہے۔ جرات کس میں جو الطاف حسین کو میڈیا پہ آکر کھری کھری سنائے۔ یا تو کہہ دو کہ الطاف حسین ٹھیک ہے اور ہارون رشید کو ویسے ہی میڈیا پہ آنے کا شوق ہے اور کراچی کے لوگوں کو تو جن مار کر غائب ہوجاتے ہیں۔
آپ بتا دو کہ کیا ہارون رشید عمران خان پہ تنگید نہہں کرتا اسکے باوجود کہ وہ عمران خان کو سپورٹ کرتا ہے۔
پتہ ہے ہمیں کیا جنرل کیانی کی ڈیوٹی ہے۔ تو کیا کریں۔ اسے کہہ دیتے ہیں کہ کیوں سپلائی کھل گئی' کیوں مشرف چلا گیا' کیوں این ار او ہوگیا' کیوں ریمنڈیوس چلا گیا۔ تو کیا فائدا ہوگا۔ آخر کو جنرل کیانی یہی جواب دے گا کہ میں نے تو حکومت کو نہیں کہا کے سپلائی کھول دے یا مشرف کو جانے دے۔ اور این ار او بھی مشرف اور زرداری کے درمیان ہوا تھا۔ جنرل کیانی نے زیادہ سے زیادہ یہی کہا ہوگا نہ کہ میں موجودہ حکومت کا تختہ نہیں الٹوں گا کیونکہ آئین اجازت نہیں دیتا۔ تو بات گھوم کر آگئی نہ سٹیٹس کوہ پہ جو پچھلی حکومتوں سے ساز باز کرکے اپنی جیبیں بھرتا ہے اور عوامی مسائل حل نہیں کرتا۔ بجلی کیا جنرل کیانی نے دینی ہے۔ ریلوے کیا فوج نے چلانی ہے حالانکہ جس کی تباہی سے سب سے زیادہ نقصان فوج کی نقل و حمل کو ہوا ہے۔
اسلیے اگر انٹیلیکچول بننے کا شوق ہے تو سٹیٹس کوہ پر تنگید کرو نہ کہ سٹیٹس کو کے خلاف اپنے فوجیوں کو مارنا شروع کردو۔ جب نظام ٹھیک ہوگا تو سب اس کی لپیٹ میں آئیں گے۔ آج اگر جنرل کیانی پر یہ ثابت بھی کردو کے اسکی یہ غلطی ہے تو کسی کا باپ آکر اسے مجبور کرے گا کے اپنا عہدہ چھوڑے یا ایک نظام چاہیے جو اسے مجبور کرسکے کہ وہ اپنی زمہ داری نہ نبھانے پر گھر جائے۔



Once again you are talking to the wrong guy. It seems you accepted HR has those two weaknesses in his writing style. Like I said, I am not against him, he is far better than most Journalists in Pakistan.
Similarly, I have my right to point out something I don't like. I am not a blind follower of anyone. HR is a good guy, who have some weaknesses like I do, or any human would.

You are also wrong to think I spread negativity or not hopeful. I am very hopeful for Pakistan. I am with you as well to defeat those who are planning against Pakistan.

You are wrong to think I am in support of status quo, read my articles and my comments on this forum, before jumping the gun.

I agree there are many in Pakistan who don't talk against MQM openly. I criticise them as much.
But here on this forum many including me write openly against MQM.

I don't understand what is your problem, and why are you criticising without any valid points or proofs?
 

rashid zafar

Voter (50+ posts)
simple stop watching aftab iqbal program,no one click on his show.until he stop bad language against
SIR IMRAN KHAN
and respected HAROON RASHEED SB.
 

evanescence

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: aftab iqbal and haroon ur rasheed

Janab e Wala, Jo defination aap ney oper dee hai Aftab Iqbal kee woh Pakistan kay qreeban tamaam hee Journalists per poori utarti hai, aap kay walid sameet. Apni gharailoo guftago forum kee zeenat na banain. Walid kay kandhay kab tak istamaal karien gey?

Khuch likhnay se pehlay thora soch lia karo bewaqoof. Us ne kb apnay walid ka kandha use kia hai. mera koi bhi us se kisi qism ka ta'aulq nahi hai aur na hi haroon rashid ko defend karna mera maqsad hai. Mujhey to is baat ki samajh nahi i k tumhain kia takleef hoi hai us se agar us ne apnay baitay honay ka faraz ada karatay hoay aik tahreer likh di hai. meray khyal main haroon rashid aur talat hussain k elawa koi credible journislit mujhey kam az kam is canvas par nazar nahi aata.
Haroon rashid se kisi ko koi takleef nahi hai yeh sirf o sirf andar ka bughaz hai hamari qom ka jo samajh bojh par tala daal daita hai aur hm apnay leadraaaaan ko apna baap dada samajhnay lagtay hain. mujhey pata nahi hai but i am sure k tum pmln k supporter ho gay.
koi thori aqal bhi use kar lia karo. yeh hamarai aadhi se ziada qom ka masla hai aur is ka hal sirf EDUCATION hai.
we have to educate our people so that they can decide their matters by themselves.
sorry i know khuch ziada ho gya hai, i m sorry.