Hizb ut Tahrir, Who are they? Aims? Is Khilafat anti Islamic? Struggle against capatalism a crime??

PkRevolution

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Hizb ut Tahrir behind Arab Revolutions? A Big YES

Why Pakistan ARMY Brig. and majors are in Army's custody??? Planing of Revolution in Pakistan???

Must watch Video Clips to understand.


3 March 1924 was the last day of Khilafat in Turkey. Before we understand Hizb ut Tahrir, we must understand how westerns destroyed Islamic Khilafat system.

- Murder of Muslims in Indian Gujrat

Pakistan Documentary - Khilafah - A Global Call - Part1/5 (Part 2,4,5 are missing)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruZrsZOoBME&feature=related

2 Part is banned on you tube. Search if you can find.

http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_url=http%3A//www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DZ7gJQmfmPi0

Part 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZSMReUQIfE&feature=mr_meh&list=PLFEB800D115F23DC5&index=3&playnext=0


Part 4 and 5 i couldn't find ( If anyone can please add in thread)


HIZB UT TAHRIR

USA


AUSTRALIA TV


UK


Denmark


Hizb ut Tahrir Revolutionaries in Holland: MUST WATCH

Video (6:58 Pakistani Government and drone attacks)




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Rtd. Gen. M.Aslam Baig (About Hazb ut Tahrir and Pakistan ARMY Officers)



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habib22

MPA (400+ posts)
Good Try to creat hate between and against IRAN, look like Saudi are spending money again , oh Kafir Saudi rulers when you will finish the hate between Islam and Muslims, oH Saudi Rulers Can you leave Muslim alone , what you will say in front of ALLAH, why you did this and use Quran to spread Hate, you know right now only IRAN is exposing YOU western Agents , and now you start using as always you did that when you come in danger you use Quran to Confuse Muslims, we prey ALLAH will destroy you and free Umat from your ZULM , you spend billions of dollars to protect American and British economy and close your eyes on poor Muslims and call then Faqeer,although you know that if you withdraw your money from Western Banks , or at least demand Cash for your OIL , they can not survives,but you do not chose this avenue because you are their slaves, shame on you oh Saudi rulers, your so called Princes gave thousands of dollars to please western masters and forget hundreds of Muslims who need one time food, Oh you Saudi Rulers you even do not own your own citizens in love of America,by the way you lie in this vedio by saying that Gadar was the son of Shareefa Maka , shame on you did you forget you ancestors, he was Abdul aziz bin Saud who helped Britisher to fight against Turkey Khilafat and as a result become the ruler of Macca , Lanet On YOU????
 

Slider

Voter (50+ posts)
Islamic History have 100+ Caliphs , there is a reason why we stress upon just 4 Rashidun Caliphs, we are ashamed for all the others and we hide it from our Children ( and that 4 are not a consensus either :) )
Why anyone want to bring Khilafat back ? We are reaping the benefits of all those 100+ so called Khalifas ,, most of them murderers and naLiaq to the bones e.g. AmirUlMomineen Mamoon Rasheed killed his brother Amin to be Khalifa himself ,, we are today what we were yesterday , traitors and dunia loving non God fearing so called Muslims , we want hereafter of Musa but insist on living like Fir-on in this World !
Stop preaching Jihad and all other non-sense , there is a time for Khaiber and there is time for Hudabia ,,

p.s. Allah is also God and Rabb , HE is NOT Muslim btw !
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
All mullas are stooges of the ruling elite, so long as ummah does not wake up and learn the quran properly it will remain a football between variour power broker forces.

Khilaafat is all about divine rule of law that is for people to benefit from not a personality cult. ISLAM=DEEN not MAZHAB and rule of mullas.

DEEN v Religion
http://www.aboutquran.com/Islam.htm

http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?50607-Pakistan-religion-secularism-amp-tribalism/page2

http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthre...en-plz!-Nice-Column-by-Orya-Maqbool-Jan/page5
 

Scorpion

Banned
Good Try to creat hate between and against IRAN, look like Saudi are spending money again , oh Kafir Saudi rulers when you will finish the hate between Islam and Muslims, oH Saudi Rulers Can you leave Muslim alone , what you will say in front of ALLAH, why you did this and use Quran to spread Hate, you know right now only IRAN is exposing YOU western Agents , and now you start using as always you did that when you come in danger you use Quran to Confuse Muslims, we prey ALLAH will destroy you and free Umat from your ZULM , you spend billions of dollars to protect American and British economy and close your eyes on poor Muslims and call then Faqeer,although you know that if you withdraw your money from Western Banks , or at least demand Cash for your OIL , they can not survives,but you do not chose this avenue because you are their slaves, shame on you oh Saudi rulers, your so called Princes gave thousands of dollars to please western masters and forget hundreds of Muslims who need one time food, Oh you Saudi Rulers you even do not own your own citizens in love of America,by the way you lie in this vedio by saying that Gadar was the son of Shareefa Maka , shame on you did you forget you ancestors, he was Abdul aziz bin Saud who helped Britisher to fight against Turkey Khilafat and as a result become the ruler of Macca , Lanet On YOU????

Dear both the Saudis and Iranians are Munafiqs . . . . .
 

Scorpion

Banned
Islamic History have 100+ Caliphs , there is a reason why we stress upon just 4 Rashidun Caliphs, we are ashamed for all the others and we hide it from our Children ( and that 4 are not a consensus either :) )
Why anyone want to bring Khilafat back ? We are reaping the benefits of all those 100+ so called Khalifas ,, most of them murderers and naLiaq to the bones e.g. AmirUlMomineen Mamoon Rasheed killed his brother Amin to be Khalifa himself ,, we are today what we were yesterday , traitors and dunia loving non God fearing so called Muslims , we want hereafter of Musa but insist on living like Fir-on in this World !
Stop preaching Jihad and all other non-sense , there is a time for Khaiber and there is time for Hudabia ,,

p.s. Allah is also God and Rabb , HE is NOT Muslim btw !

Dear Allah is Allah and those who follows his path is a Muslim . . . .

currently those who are waging jihad are doing this for defensive purposes . . . . Like Afghanistan, Iraq, Chechnya, Thailand, Philippines, Palestine etc . . . . They have the right to defend themselves . . . . You dont have the right to advice them as it is they who are facing crimes . . . . .

All above I totally agree with you and they were not even Khalifahs but Kings . . . . If some one is trying to bring a change through peaceful means than what is wrong . . . . After all the Change in europe and America is also due to revolutions and civil wars and bloodshed . . . . .
 

Slider

Voter (50+ posts)
Dear both the Saudis and Iranians are Munafiqs . . . . .

They are Munafiqs because they are Shia and Wahabi's ? Or in other words you belong to some other sect of Islam and whoever agrees with your sect is not a Munafiq ?
That is the crux of the problem with Muslims , Allah said 'Cling to my Rassi , so you wont get astray from the right path' , now each group has its own Rassi and condemn all other Rassis :)

No matter what I say or anyone else say, these matters wont get resolved by us , we are screwed to the max , unless Muslims believe in ONE person as a leader this will go on forever ;(

In a nutshell , Islam we have it NOT the one intended for us , it got hijacked long time ago. We dont need to look for right path , we need to look for people who were and are on right path , the ones blessed by Him , and just follow them !

Irony and sad part of this is, some people believe that one of the person on right path is called Moulana Fazil ur Rehman, one is called Mullah Omar and so on so forth :( You want to bring revolution with this type of knuckleheads? I am not saying you do but this is a global picture of Muslim leaders everywhere. And this is not a new thing , did Amreeka beheaded Hussain along with family and friends ? Beheading of Hussain is not sad per se , its sad that we still doing it and praising the ones we did it and do it and call it Way of Allah , Jihad and what not ..



I agree with you that Khalifas were Kings , and not good ones either ,,
 

PkRevolution

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I think Munafiq are those who block the peacefull way of defencing. Hizb ut Tahrir is not violent and majority of their members are highly educated.

Question is:

What is the right way of protest for a muslim?? Knowing facts that masacre of muslims is being practised by many of so called civilized countries. If peacefull way of protest is a terrorist activity then all such organisations should be banned in Europe.
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
It is my personal opinion you have full rights to disagree:

We must not overlook the fact that after officially declaring Osama bin Laden dead (though he was dead long ago), Zionists need another fake or false flag organization which can provide suitable grounds to further their agenda. They must be grooming Hizb Tehreer now to replace Al-Qaida. At the style and attitude of the so called leaders of this organization are really fishy and doubtful. I feel that we must not beat drums to hail this organization until the things are very clear. My questions come in mind:

1. Why this organization has popped all of sudden after Osama is officially declared dead, while this organization is claimed to be existing since 1950's?
2. Link of this organization established to a serving Brigadier?
3. Few months age the banners of this organization were seen on all the roads in the capital where 99% of the people heard its name very first time?

I feel that we must be very careful and should not get trapped by getting emotional in the name of Caliphate as it is our dream. Enemy agencies may not be exploiting our emotions.

What is
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
The following article is an old one but I want to share to share the opinion of the writer to have an insight into this organization. However we must be careful to form any opinion in haste.

Is Hizb-ut-Tahrir another project of British MI6?
March 21, 2010
By Yousuf Nazar

General Pervez Musharraf acknowledged in his book, ‘In the Line of Fire’, that Omar Saeed Sheikh – the man who was convicted for killing Daniel Pearl, Wall Street Journal’s correspondent, in 2002 – was recruited by MI6, the British intelligence agency.

We also know that Omar Saeed Sheikh conducted terrorist strikes in India and was also very close to the sectarian terrorist outfits in Pakistan besides being very close to the former Intelligence Bureau Head, Brig. (rtd) Ijaz Shah. Omar Saeed was also linked (in the reports of the Associated Press, CNN, Fox News, ABC News, among others) to transferring $100,000 to Mohd. Atta, who allegedly led the hijackings of 9/11.

So when people talk about a nexus of the Western intelligence agencies, Pakistani spy masters, and the terrorists in Pakistan, it is more than just conspiracy theory. Some of the facts have been so well documented and in some instance, as in the case of Omar Saeed Sheikh, acknowledged by people like Musharraf and Benazir Bhutto.

This article provides links to material and reports that indicate that Hizb-ut-Tahrir is in fact a project of the MI6.

From 1986 to 1996, under the leadership of Syrian born Omar Bakri Muhammad, Hizb ut-Tahrir grew from a very small organization in Britain to a one of the most active Islamic organizations in the country. In 1996 Bakri split with Hizb ut-Tahrir over disagreements on policy, style and methods, and focused on another organization Al-Muhajiroun.

A report in Foreign Affairs Journal claims that Hizb ut-Tahrir “dominates” the British Islamist “scene” with some 8,500 members in the United Kingdom, compared to only 1,000 for a rival, Muslim Association of Britain.

Hizb ut-Tahrir in Britain emphasized the importance of Muslims choosing loyalty to their religion above loyalty to Britain or any other country. In Hizb ut-Tahrir’s view, Islam is anti-nationalist, transnational and pan-Islamic in nature. Although it was founded decades ago and is active in many countries, its activities in Central Asia are considered as of vital importance to MI6 as part of Anglo-American strategy to contain the Russians and since the last decade to counter the growing influence of China.

Following the 7 July 2005 London bombings the British government announced its intention to ban the organization but abandoned the ban. According to The Independent Blair “shelved the ban after warnings from police, intelligence chiefs, and civil liberties groups that it is a non-violent group, and driving it underground could backfire and according to the Observer because the Home Office believed a legal ban would not stick.

In July 2007, Leader of the Opposition David Cameron asked the new Prime Minister Gordon Brown why the organisation had not been banned from the United Kingdom, arguing it was an extremist group. Gordon Brown responded that more evidence would be needed before banning a group and, when pressed further, John Reid the previous home secretary stepped in arguing that there had already been two reviews of the group with insufficient evidence to justify a ban.

In November of 2009, Mr Cameron again questioned the Government over Hizb ut-Tahrir, claiming that government Pathfinder fund aimed at combating violent extremism was being used to fund schools run by an organisation with links to extremism.

The following links are worth a closer study.

1. The first report is that of UK Daily Telegraph, titled ” Islamists who want to destroy the state get 100,000 funding”, dated Oct. 25, 2009

2. The second one is a report published by the Executive Intelligence Review, ”Tajikistan-Another Victim of British-Saudi Terror“, dated August 7. 2009

3. The third report by the UK’s Times, “British Islamists plot against Pakistan“, dated July 4, 2009, does not link MI6 directly but is silent on one fact. How come the British Muslims belonging to the Hizb while followed so closely by the British intelligence and known to even the Times, are able to travel so frequently between the UK and Pakistan?

4. MI6 agents in Dehli detained, February 18, 2010

The linkages between the so-called Islamic militants and the Western spy agencies, supported by the reports of the western media itself, suggest that some of the so-called extremist or militant groups are merely tools in the much bigger game, called the “Great Game” and MI6 is naturally a major player.

Unfortunately, Pakistanis have become the cannon fodder of the not just the Great Game but also of the ‘turf battles’ among the MI6, the CIA, and the ISI. Of course, the fact that many of the extremists have gotten out of their control has made things worse but the fight against the terrorists seems like a losing battle in this part of the world because either the ‘old terrorist’ is eliminated and replaced by a new one as Benazir Bhutto put it on Business Plus TV in one of her last interviews, and a ‘good terrorist” is even supported by some of the most prominent figures in the media leave alone the much maligned Pakistani establishment.

http://www.stateofpakistan.org/is-hizb-ut-tahrir-another-project-of-british-mi6
 

Scorpion

Banned
They are Munafiqs because they are Shia and Wahabi's ? Or in other words you belong to some other sect of Islam and whoever agrees with your sect is not a Munafiq ?
That is the crux of the problem with Muslims , Allah said 'Cling to my Rassi , so you wont get astray from the right path' , now each group has its own Rassi and condemn all other Rassis :)

No matter what I say or anyone else say, these matters wont get resolved by us , we are screwed to the max , unless Muslims believe in ONE person as a leader this will go on forever ;(

In a nutshell , Islam we have it NOT the one intended for us , it got hijacked long time ago. We dont need to look for right path , we need to look for people who were and are on right path , the ones blessed by Him , and just follow them !

Irony and sad part of this is, some people believe that one of the person on right path is called Moulana Fazil ur Rehman, one is called Mullah Omar and so on so forth :( You want to bring revolution with this type of knuckleheads? I am not saying you do but this is a global picture of Muslim leaders everywhere. And this is not a new thing , did Amreeka beheaded Hussain along with family and friends ? Beheading of Hussain is not sad per se , its sad that we still doing it and praising the ones we did it and do it and call it Way of Allah , Jihad and what not ..



I agree with you that Khalifas were Kings , and not good ones either ,,

Dear,

I sided the truth . . . . I prayed for the success of Hizbullah/Hasan Nasrullah . . . . And I still prays for the success of Taliban/Mullah Omer . . . . and the reason is that I dont see through a myopic opening . . . . I always sided the one whom I consider on the path of truth through Religious, Political and Moral sense . . . . Try to follow this approach . . . . As you are still entangled on sect and ethnic basis . . . . .

No body is Munafiq because of being Sunni or Shia . . . . But All those who are supporting this war on terror for the Americans are definitely Munafiqs as it is my Fatwa, weather you agrees or not . . . .

You asks for the people on right path . . . . Than definitely those who resisting against the corrupt regimes in the Islamic world and against the western evil forces are definitely doing it for a right cause . . . . . Why you have any doubts . . .

And please dont stick your clock to Karbala and please move a head as it is these same Americans who are responsible for the deaths of 1.7 million Iraqi Children between 1992-1998, At least a million deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq, and deaths in reaction to their waged war on terror . . . . .

And dear , Revolution is bought through resistance . . . . Kindly get out from this knucklehead theory . . . . And support the resistance
 

Typhoon

Senator (1k+ posts)
Hizb ul tehrir was designed and created in Israel. The prime objective was to hijack the desire of a khilafa.
Israel, europe and US see a khilafa as a threat to them. Therefor they made a deal when the last ottoman khalif surrendered, one was to dismantle the khilafa.
And now.. If hizbul tehrir was a real organization for real khilafa, it wouldnt be started in Israel and it wouldnt be allowed in any western countries like UK, US, Australia, Israel etc.
Wake up guys. Its a false flag deluxe.