Hiding bin Laden: Finger of suspicion at ISI

IndiaGuy

Senator (1k+ posts)
WASHINGTON: Just hours after American Navy Seals shot dead Osama bin Laden in a compound in Pakistan on Sunday, US President Barack Obama shot down the Pakistani security establishment's attempt to claim joint credit for the operation.

In a ten-minute television address, Obama left no doubt that US personnel alone were involved in the action that brought bin Laden to justice. ''Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan,'' Obama said, adding, ''A small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability.''

While Obama said ''It's important to note that our counterterrorism cooperation with Pakistan helped lead us to bin Laden and the compound where he was hiding,'' he made no mention of any Pakistani military role in the operation. US officials in background briefing made it clear that no country, much less Pakistan, was informed of the operation.

In fact, there was not even a word of thanks for Pakistan. Instead, Obama said: ''Tonight, I called President Zardari, and my team has also spoken with their Pakistani counterparts. They agree that this is a good and historic day for both of our nations. And going forward, it is essential that Pakistan continue to join us in the fight against al-Qaida and its affiliates.''

The finger of suspicion is now pointing squarely at the Pakistani military and intelligence for sheltering and protecting Osama bin Laden before US forces hunted him down and put a bullet in his head in the wee hours of Sunday. The coordinates of the action and sequence of events indicate that the al-Qaida fugitive may have been killed in an ISI safehouse.

US analysts uniformly suggested that the Pakistani security establishment's claim of a role in the operation is clearly aimed at ducking charges of its military's possible role in hiding bin Laden. ''This is hugely embarrassing for Pakistan,'' was a common refrain on US TV channels throughout the night.

In fact, top US officials have openly suggested for months that the Pakistani military establishment was hiding bin Laden. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton came closest to publicly exposing Pakistan's role last May when she accused some government officials there of harboring Osama bin Laden and Mullah Omar.

''I am not saying they are at the highest level...but I believe somewhere in this government are people who know where Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida and where Mullah Omar and the leadership of the Taliban are,'' Clinton said on May 10 last year, adding, ''We expect more cooperation (from Pakistan) to help us bring to justice capture or kill those who brought us 9/11.''

Taken together with President Obama's pointed reference to President Zardari and leaving out any mention of Pakistani forces' involvement, it would seem that Washington believes that Pakistan's military intelligence establishment, including the ISI, was sheltering bin Laden. The ISI was accused as recently as last week by the top US military official Admiral Mike Mullen of having terrorist links, and named as a terrorist support entity by US officials, according to the Guantanamo cables.

Lending credence to the charges is the fact that US forces homed in on bin Laden in Abbottabad, which is a cantonment just 50 kms from Islamabad, where the Pakistani military has a strong presence. The place where bin Laden was killed is only kilometers from the Kakul military academy, where many Pakistani military elites, including some of its ISI cadres, graduate from.

While US officials are tightlipped about precise details, analysts are trying to figure out whether the compound that sheltered bin Laden was an ISI safehouse. There is also speculation as to whether Hillary Clinton was referring to this when she made her pointed remarks last May.

US officials have said for years that they believed bin Laden escaped to Pakistan after the American bombing campaign in Afghanistan. But Pakistani officials, including its former military ruler Pervez Musharraf, insisted that he was in Afghanistan, even as Afghan officials would angrily refute it and say he is in Pakistan. In the end, the Americans and Afghans were right on the money.

Source:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...r-of-suspicion-at-ISI/articleshow/8141352.cms
 

IndiaGuy

Senator (1k+ posts)
Pak Army caught protecting Osama?

Hours after US President Barack Obama announced the death of al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden in Pakistan during a CIA operation, questions are being raise whether the Pakistani Army protected the dreaded 9/11 mastermind. The coordinates of the action and sequence of events suggest that the al-Qaeda fugitive may have been killed in an ISI safehouse.

With this confirmation from the US President, Pakistan's blatant lie that Osama was 'not' hiding in Pakistan and that they had no idea about his whereabouts, has been nailed.

According to a senior US official, Osama was living in a mansion about 100 kilometers, or 62 miles, north of the Pakistani capital of Islamabad along with other family members. The official added that Osama was living in a neighbourhood which was normally a residence of top retired military officials.
Administration officials called it “an extraordinarily secured compound,” adding U.S. intelligence officials' first assessment is it likely was built specifically to hide bin Laden.

It was “custom-built to hide someone of significance,” an administration official said.

The fact bin Laden was apparently living in relative luxury not far from Islamabad could pose awkward questions for Pakistan. Also according to eyewitness the compound which surrounded bin Laden’s hideout existed for almost 5 years.

Hillary Clinton nearly blew the whistle on ISI safehouse


Top US officials have openly suggested for months that the Pakistani military establishment was hiding bin Laden. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton came closest to publicly exposing Pakistan's role last May when she accused some government officials there of harboring Osama bin Laden and Mullah Omar.

''I am not saying they are at the highest level...but I believe somewhere in this government are people who know where Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida and where Mullah Omar and the leadership of the Taliban are,'' Clinton said on May 10 last year, adding, ''We expect more cooperation (from Pakistan) to help us bring to justice capture or kill those who brought us 9/11.''

A CIA-led operation killed Osama bin Laden in Pakistan and recovered his body after a tortuous decade long hunt for the elusive militant leader who commanded the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, US government officials said Sunday night. CIA Director Leon Panetta called key members of Congress late Sunday to describe the killing of the Al Qaeda leader.

A helicopter crashed near Abbottabad city in northwest Pakistan during an operation by US special forces that resulted in the killing of Al Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden. The military helicopter burst into flames after crashing into the compound of a house near Bilal Town area near Abbottabad, a short distance from the Pakistan Military Academy.

The US team was at the compound for about 40 minutes, the officials said.

Just 10 days ago Pakistan's army chief addressed army cadets at the academy near where bin Laden was killed, saying the country's military had broken the back of militants linked to al Qaeda and the Taliban.

"For some time there will be a lot of tension between Washington and Islamabad because bin Laden seems to have been living here close to Islamabad," said Imtiaz Gul, a security analyst.

"If the ISI had known then somebody within the ISI must have leaked this information," Gul said, referring to the Pakistani intelligence agency. "Pakistan will have to do a lot of damage control because the Americans have been reporting he is in Pakistan ... this is a serious blow to the credibility of Pakistan."

However, defence analyst and former general Talat Masood said the fact bin Laden was killed in a joint operation would limit the damage to Pakistan's image "There should be a sigh of relief because this will take some pressure off of Pakistan," said defence analyst and former general Talat Masood. "Pakistan most probably has contributed to this, and Pakistan can take some credit for this -- being such an iconic figure, it's a great achievement."

US officials have said for years that they believed bin Laden escaped to Pakistan after the American bombing campaign in Afghanistan. But Pakistani officials, including its former military ruler Pervez Musharraf, insisted that he was in Afghanistan, even as Afghan officials would angrily refute it and say he is in Pakistan. In the end, the Americans and Afghans were right on the money.

Abbotabad is a popular summer resort, located in a valley surrounded by green hills near Pakistani Kashmir. Islamist militants, particularly those fighting in Indian-controlled Kashmir, used to have training camps near the town.

'Pak not kept in the loop'

Apparently fearing a leak, the US did not inform Pakistan about the closely guarded operation on the outskirts of Islamabad that resulted in the death Osama bin Laden.

"The information was not shared with any other country including Pakistan," the official said, adding that in such a kind of operation, the information is kept only to a few people and this was done in this case too.

The official told White House correspondents that the successful 40-minute operation was carried out by two US helicopters.

Besides, Osama bin Laden, three men and one woman was killed in this operation.

Announcing the death of bin Laden, President Barack Obama asked Pakistan to co-operate with the US in the war against terror.

"Going forward, it is essential that Pakistan continue to join us in the fight against al Qaeda and its affiliates," Obama said in his live televised speech.

"Over the years, I’ve repeatedly made clear that we would take action within Pakistan if we knew where bin Laden was. That is what we’ve done. But its important to note that our counter-terrorism cooperation with Pakistan helped lead us to bin Laden and the compound where he was hiding. Indeed, bin Laden had declared war against Pakistan as well, and ordered attacks against the Pakistani people, Obama said.

"I called President Zardari, and my team has also spoken with their Pakistani counterpart. They agree that this is a good and historic day for both of our nations. "And going forward, it is essential that Pakistan continue to join us in the fight against al Qaeda and its affiliates," said the US President. bin Laden was killed in a US operation in Abbottabad.

Source: http://www.timesnow.tv/articleshow/4372043.cms
 

IndiaGuy

Senator (1k+ posts)
'Osama's killing in Pak underlines our concern'

India today said the killing of global terrorist Osama bin Laden was a matter of grave concern as it proved that terrorists belonging to different groups find sanctuary in Pakistan. Union Home Minister P Chidambaram said in a statement that perpetrators of the Mumbai terror attacks, including the controllers and handlers of the terrorists, continue to be sheltered in Pakistan.

He said that earlier today the US government informed New Delhi that Osama bin Laden had been killed by security forces somewhere "deep inside Pakistan."

"After the September 11, 2001 terror attack, the US had a reason to seek Osama bin Laden and bring him and his accomplices to justice," the statement said.

"We take note with grave concern that part of the statement in which President (Barack) Obama said that the fire fight in which Osama bin Laden was killed took place in Abbotabad 'deep inside Pakistan'.

"This fact underlines our concern that terrorists belonging to different organisations find sanctuary in
Pakistan," he said.

The Home Minister said in the wake of this incident "we believe that perpetrators of the Mumbai terror attacks, including the controllers and handlers of the terrorists who actually carried out the attack, continue to be sheltered in Pakistan.

"We once again call upon the Government of Pakistan to arrest the persons whose names have been handed over to the Interior Minister of Pakistan as well as provide voice samples of certain persons who are suspected to be among the controllers and handlers of the terrorists."

Efforts to eliminate terror havens must not be let down: Krishna

Terming al Qaeda mastermind Osama bin Laden's killing as the "victorious milestone" in the global war against terrorism, external affairs minister S M Krishna said the world "must not let down" its united effort to eliminate the safe havens that have been provided to terrorists in its neighbourhood.

"President (Barack) Obama of the US has just announced that his government has conducted a successful operation that has resulted in the death of Osama bin Laden deep inside Pakistan. This operation brings to closure an almost decade-long search for the head of the al Qaeda," S M Krishna said in a statement.

Noting the development as a "historic" and "victorious milestone", the minister said, "Over the years, thousands of innocent lives of men, women and children have been tragically lost at the hands of terrorist groups."

Asserting that the struggle must continue "unabated", Krishna said, "The world must not let down its united effort to overcome terrorism and eliminate the safe havens and sanctuaries that have been provided to terrorists in our own neighbourhood."

Source: http://www.timesnow.tv/Osamas-killing-proof-that-2611-terrorists-in-Pak/articleshow/4372034.cms
 

mt_dilber

MPA (400+ posts)
Indian media or any media who has instructions to develop propaganda war, jump to assumptive conclusions, within hours of an incident. Lets stay calm and wait for millions of questions, to get answered first. If OBL is really killed, well done. But it is not possible without ISI co-operation, no doubt. :)
 

Unicorn

Banned
IF the reports are true then it would be impossible for Osama to be there without the help of least some element of the Pak establishment. There are lots of questions One the important one is for how long he was living there and why no one bother to investigate the huge mansion that was fortified and no one wondered who lived there.
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Pakistanis should know this:


Americans have long history of being ungrateful and attempting to get all the credits for every thing they do in cooperation with others.

Example: Canada helped the American hostages escape from Iran in the days of Khomeini.

To my knowledge there was not even a thank you note from the President at the time. No coverage of Canadian's dare to help the hostages leave Iran.

So I am 100% confident that our soldiers/ISI/MI etc played a major role in punishing Ladin, even though there are certain evidence contrary to that. Until I see any conclusive evidence, I will believe that this was a drama to set the stage for 'successful exit' of US troops. There is just not enough proof that Ladin was killed. Staging a perfectly edited drama on media doesn't cut well when it comes to concrete proof.

'Oh we threw the body in the sea to meet the Islamic law' is enough to keep folks laughing for days. The adviser advising this line to Obama should be fired.


now lets see if Fawad is awake to reply to any one's posts here.

fawad saheb, its all yours now (bigsmile)
 
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terex

Guest
ofcourse why would pakistan hand over laden to america,,,they reap billion of dollar coz of him..

politicians use it to divert public opinion!!
 

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