Hashmi A rebel with courage

adnan_younus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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Afaq Chaudhry

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
We need to change our attitude towards the democracy, if we want the real change we need to change ourselves first, criticism is a simple tool to oppose or defend in our society and also we feel here in this forum, some times no respect for our own leaders.
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
My personal opinion is that Hashmi is ill, at a very senior age and suffering from medical aliments and not been active for a long time. How many times have we seen him play any role since the elections. Using up his entire strenght to make a 3 minute speech, just not physical able to. Basically not been able to carry out his duties as the party president but still he was kept on board as president out of respect. So others like Tareen, Qureshi and Umar have come forward and been assigned duities basically more in the front than Hashmi.

Now Hashmi is upset he is being ignored, because he still believe because after zero performance he wants to lead from the front. Also when people reach a certain age their thinking also changes I'm sure we have all seen this with our very elderly relatives. They become stubborn and refuse to listen to anyone and just want everything their way.

So a combination of all these factors has led to this, although I highly dislike his statements, that he should not have done, if you are going to part amicably not like a divorcing couple. Look at IK he did not hold any press conferences nothing, Just said two lines and changed subject because he still respects him.

I think he has led a long an active political career and life. I think he should retire now and just relax. Hashmi saab apni umar ka lihaaz kerlain aur don't take this Baaghi thing too seriously.
 

Awanabadi

MPA (400+ posts)
The difference between PTI an PML-N is , PML-N is killing people in Lahore and Islamabd while pti in KPK is not killing people to rule,,this is huge difference .. PML-N is sending all police from Punjab to Islamabad to help killer Nawaz SHarif...
CAn u answer Y KPK is not sending police force to help IMran Khan???

Pervaiz Khatk is very honest man, he should give up honesty.
Shabaz Sharif send Punjab police to capital .. I request to Chief minster of KPK please send KPK police, FC police to help the people those people whom Punjab police is killing them they already killed 30 people. If Shabaz Sharif can send police to capital to kill people , Y not chief minster of KPK send police to save people??..


If it was Sharif family in KPK , they would use all govt machinery, police , with Govt employees to make successful sit in .. They will say , Punjabi r killing Phatan in Islamabd..
Even he did not asked any one from KPK police to help PTI.Although ALL KPK police , reserve force , FC is under chief minster command.
As Shabaz Sharif send Punjab polic


Illogical emotional wishes cannot bring anything.
 

Rollingstone

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Dear Awanabadi, You are write PTI is the only party in which one can express his sentiments freely. Now about Hashmi Sahib, his first speech in this parliament was no doubt clearly against party policy, he has to apologies then. Then when IK started march he went to Multan while talking to media he announced his concerns. The democratic way is if you fail to convince then you should support. Ik again send team to negotiate and bring him back. Then yesterday when IK announced that he will shift the sit in in front of prime minister house he left. If according to him all others are against then at least one more should me with him by know at least. IK didn't instructed worker to move into Parliament or P.M house. Hashmi sahib if had some concerns at that time he should protest in party. What was the need of a press conference. Democracy he was defending then why he took oath from Ziaulhaq? Seriously speaking it was totally breach of conduct. Its good IK seprated his way from him. Its once again clear that IK believe in discipline and there is no one bigger then the cause that is our freedom from unjust.
 

Respect

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
You need to understand the point that Hashmi has raised his voice to avoid violence.

violence was gonna happen anyway PML N was waiting for chance they could have used other methods even if we did not go outside PM house, PAT would have gone forward and they would have attacked, PTI would have become weaker without PAT there. We would have had to get involved anyway whether we chose to go or not. How would it have looked PAT workers getting killed and PTI sitting back.

They wanted this to happen, they were under pressure and they reacted with violence
 

Democrate

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Nawaz wali "jamhooriyat" to sab ki samajh say bahar ha.....siwai Noroon kay !

اسی لئے تو مینے کہا تھا یہ تمہاری سمج میں نہیں آنے والی ..تم کو چائیے فوجی جمہوریت جو روز سبھا سویرے تم کو کوڑے لگائے،خود کش حملے کرایے ،قوم کی بیٹیوں کو بیچے اور تم سے اپنے لیڈر کو چننے کا اختیار بھی چھین لے

 

salaudin

Senator (1k+ posts)

اسی لئے تو مینے کہا تھا یہ تمہاری سمج میں نہیں آنے والی ..تم کو چائیے فوجی جمہوریت جو روز سبھا سویرے تم کو کوڑے لگائے،خود کش حملے کرایے ،قوم کی بیٹیوں کو بیچے اور تم سے اپنے لیڈر کو چننے کا اختیار بھی چھین لے


Sounds like Shareef-style ! Aik sawal ha, yani "fauji jamhooriyat" Nawaz Sharif jaise hi hooti ha ?????
 

Democrate

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Sounds like Shareef-style ! Aik sawal ha, yani "fauji jamhooriyat" Nawaz Sharif jaise hi hooti ha ?????

یار کوئی کام کی بات کرنی ہے تو کرو....بتایو فوجی جمہوریت پسند ہے پھر میرے بھائی کو؟،آ جائیں پھر بوٹ والے
 

Londonguy

Senator (1k+ posts)
A Rebel looking for something to rebel about

A Rebel without a cause

A Revolutionary looking for a Revolution and

Is there a Revolution which needs Javed Hasmi ?
 

hmehmood7

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Difference of opinion is not a problem. But he developed habit, if his suggestion is not taken on board he not only leave party alone to deepen crisis but start discussing in media.
It happens often that your opinion is not accepted but once party make decision you own it.
I think enough is enough he should batter stay away.
Many thank what he did for PTI so far.
and goodbye
 

salaudin

Senator (1k+ posts)

یار کوئی کام کی بات کرنی ہے تو کرو....بتایو فوجی جمہوریت پسند ہے پھر میرے بھائی کو؟،آ جائیں پھر بوٹ والے

For me, it does not matter. It is the same, if not better than the Nawaz-Zardari-(so called)Democracy.
Not to stress your braincells but do you, as Noon supporter, even know what a democratic system means ? What it really has to offer and what are the conditions required for a system to be even partially "democratic". ???