abduttawwab
MPA (400+ posts)
Bloody Israelis celebrating the attack
'FLOTILLA' ISRAEL attacks aid ship headed for Palestine - [Update: Israel rejects UN multinational i
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foqia khan
MPA (400+ posts)
Many Thanks to Allah for the safe return of our journalists. Talat Hussain is the Pride of our nation.
Ammad Hafeez
Minister (2k+ posts)
Yeah, It's the real question that Why did Zaid hamid not pass any Statement on this.. It's the Genuine Question.
rizwan1003
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
No man he did pass the statement but I wanted to see him do Kung Fu on one of the ships in Israel.
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Muhammad Afzal
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Agar Insaan mein Jazba aur Janoon na ho to woh eik murda sey bhi worst hey. You egotistical maggot, I think you have not learned appreciating others.
digitalzygot
Senator (1k+ posts)
West complicit in Israeli 'terror and oppression'
For blind defenders of the Jewish state, Israel is engaged in a war on terror that justifies every offensive action. For Israel many others, Hamas is a terrorist organisation and its members are legitimate targets. But imagine the outcry if Tehran viewed American and Israeli officials, who regularly condemn and threaten the country's very existence, as enemies of the state and systematically killed them across the globe. The world would respond with outrage.
But Israel and its proxies are simply asked to forgive and forget. Zionist spokespeople in Australia were distressed that the Government had made an "unhelpful" decision over the passports affair and argued that there was no evidence Israel was even behind the assassination; denial mixed with delusion and a dash of arrogance. The Jewish community is used to getting its way in the halls of power through the canny mix of financial backing, arm-twisting and brutal realpolitik.
It is seen as political suicide to even mildly chastise the Zionist entity in most Western states, despite Israel's growing intolerance of free speech, discrimination against Israeli Arabs and forced removal of Palestinians from the West Bank into Gaza, all in direct violation of countless United Nations resolutions. This week's massacre by Israel of protesters on the flotilla heading to break the illegal blockade on Gaza is simply the latest example of Israeli arrogance.
For many politicians in the West, Israel is a thriving democracy amid a sea of dictatorships. In reality, it's a democracy for Jews only, illegally occupying millions of Palestinians and funding Jewish-only roads in the West Bank and Jewish, settler-only infrastructure. I saw last year in the Hebron Hills the running of raw sewage from Jewish settlements directly into Palestinian villages. Furthermore, I witnessed the Israeli Army refusing to allow Palestinian farmers access to their own lands because fundamentalist Jewish settlers blocked the path.
The daily breaches of international law are just one reason why virtually every human rights group in the world now calls Israel's policy of separation and discrimination apartheid in the occupied territories.
Many members of the African National Congress visit the West Bank and argue the situation for Palestinians today is far worse than anything they ever experienced under apartheid South Africa. A new book released last month, The Unspoken Alliance, details extensive connections between Israel and apartheid Pretoria right up until 1994, including the sharing of nuclear technology, arms and methods of oppressing the blacks and Palestinians.
For blind defenders of the Jewish state, Israel is engaged in a war on terror that justifies every offensive action. For Israel many others, Hamas is a terrorist organisation and its members are legitimate targets. But imagine the outcry if Tehran viewed American and Israeli officials, who regularly condemn and threaten the country's very existence, as enemies of the state and systematically killed them across the globe. The world would respond with outrage.
But Israel and its proxies are simply asked to forgive and forget. Zionist spokespeople in Australia were distressed that the Government had made an "unhelpful" decision over the passports affair and argued that there was no evidence Israel was even behind the assassination; denial mixed with delusion and a dash of arrogance. The Jewish community is used to getting its way in the halls of power through the canny mix of financial backing, arm-twisting and brutal realpolitik.
It is seen as political suicide to even mildly chastise the Zionist entity in most Western states, despite Israel's growing intolerance of free speech, discrimination against Israeli Arabs and forced removal of Palestinians from the West Bank into Gaza, all in direct violation of countless United Nations resolutions. This week's massacre by Israel of protesters on the flotilla heading to break the illegal blockade on Gaza is simply the latest example of Israeli arrogance.
For many politicians in the West, Israel is a thriving democracy amid a sea of dictatorships. In reality, it's a democracy for Jews only, illegally occupying millions of Palestinians and funding Jewish-only roads in the West Bank and Jewish, settler-only infrastructure. I saw last year in the Hebron Hills the running of raw sewage from Jewish settlements directly into Palestinian villages. Furthermore, I witnessed the Israeli Army refusing to allow Palestinian farmers access to their own lands because fundamentalist Jewish settlers blocked the path.
The daily breaches of international law are just one reason why virtually every human rights group in the world now calls Israel's policy of separation and discrimination apartheid in the occupied territories.
Many members of the African National Congress visit the West Bank and argue the situation for Palestinians today is far worse than anything they ever experienced under apartheid South Africa. A new book released last month, The Unspoken Alliance, details extensive connections between Israel and apartheid Pretoria right up until 1994, including the sharing of nuclear technology, arms and methods of oppressing the blacks and Palestinians.
K
khan125
Guest
I appritiate tallat's effort and his point of view.
jazba kisi nazariaey kisi usool k liaey kion nhi nazar ata sirf shakhsi narey lagaiey jatey hain.
hm me bohut jazba he to ghalat ko ghalat kion nhi kehtey palestine ki himayat achi he lakin pehley apni himayat b to krain apney mulk ka kia hoga.
palestine aik siasi issue bna diya gaya he ore is pe kafi log siasat chamkatey hain ore hm jazbaat dikhatey hain.jo apni madad nhi kr sakta vo dosro ki madad k narey lagaye usey jazbati narey hi kaha ja sakta he jiska haqeeqat se koi talluk nhi.isko haqeeqat bnana he to pehley in jazbaat ko sacha sabit krain apney mulk k liaey b jazbaat show krain.
aik chotee se misal he ,hr jaga gand hi gand para hota he lakin koi akhlaqi jurrat ya mulk k liaey muhabat ka jazba show nhi krta k main isey utha kr dust ben main phaink do.Jo apney mulk k liaey itna nhi kr sakta k aik shoping bag hi utha kr korrey k drum me daal de vo jazbaat konsey show kr raha he.
in jazbaati naaroo se kuch nhi banta...........yahan pe bharkey mairney valey barey barey tees maar khan hain jo bato me to israel ,india ore america ko 2 mint me fatha kr letey hain lakin on ground kuch b nhi.
bhai merey khwaab o khiali dunya me hm kb tak rahein gey.kb tk jzbati narrey hi lagatey rahein gey.dunya kahan se kahan pohanch gaiey lakin hm abb b jazbaati narro pe chal rahey hain.
mujhey hassan nisar sahab ki baat yaad a rahee he k "WEST VALEY PORK KHATEY HAIN LAKIN HARAM NHI KHATEY ,ORE HM PORK NHI KHATEY LAKIN HARAM BOHUT KHATEY HAIN"
in Pakistani bhaion k ziada madad ki zaroorat he jinhain maghrib ki tehzeeb bohut attract krtee he.
in pakistani behno ko madad ki zaroorat he jo magrib valee azadi ki haami hain.
in pakistanio ko madad ki zaroorat he jo poora din india k ganey ore filmey suntey rehtey hain.
in pakistanio ko madad ki zaroorat he jo job k liaey hr sifarish aazmatey hain.
in pakistanio ko madad ki zaroorat he jinkey nazdeek ahliat ore merit koi chez nhi bs sifarish or rishwat honee chahey ore ye unka haq he.
in pakistanio ko madad ki zaroorat he jo aaj b ZAB or BB k zinda honey k narey lagaty hain.
in pakistanio ko madad ki zaroorat he jo industrialist ,arabpati logo ko aik mazdoor ka nomainda bnatey hain.
in pakistanio ko madad ki zaroorat he jinko qatil pur amen rahney ki apealain krain.
in pakistanio ko madad ki zaroorat he jo mazhab k naam pe insano ka qatal krtey hain.
in pakistanio ko madad ki zaroorat he jo shalwar kameez valey paidal shareef shakhs ko oye kr k bulatey hain ore pent shirt ore garee main baithey dallal ko sir kr k bulatey hain.
in pakistanio ko madad ki zaroorat he jo shareef aadmi se apna talluk btatey hoey katratey hain lakin hr koi kisi ghundey ya badmaash se talluk show krney ka shoke rakhta he.
in pakistanio ko madad ki zaroorat he jo khud to sach chupatey hain usey masliahat kehtey hain doosra chupaiey to jhoota kehtey hain.
in pakistanio ko madad ki zaroorat he jo apni behn ko naik parveen samhajtey hain ore paraiee behno ko mehboobaien samhajtey hain.
in pakistanio ko madad ki zaroorat he jo khud to ye haq samhajtey hain k vo jis larkee k saath chahey setting krain balkey is pe fakhr kia jata he lakin apni behn bivi ye kaam krey to takleef hotee he.
in pakistanio ko madad ki zaroorat he jo khud apney faidey k liaey oro ki nuksaan ko jaiz samhajtey hain.
in pakistanio ko madad ki zaroorat he jo jhoot munafikat ore chor bazari khud krtey hain lakin ilzaam hukamrano ko detey hain.
in pakistanio ko madad ki zaroorat he jo khud apna eeman to 50 rupey main baich detey hain lakin koi hukamran 50 crore main baichey to us pe tankeed krtey hain.
Bhai saab hukamraan KHWAAB E KHARGOOSH ME NHI SO RAHEY JIS LIAEY VO AIEY HAIN US KI LIAEY DIN RAAT MEHNAT PE LAGEY HOEY HAIN.............KHWAAB E KHARGOOSH ME HM AWAM HAIN JO SIRF JAZBAATI NARREY LAGA K APNEY AAP KO KHUSH KR RAHEY HAIN.
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ALI ARYAN
Senator (1k+ posts)
Brother everyone has his view, aap ki soch Qabil e sataish hai, Agar aap ke pass time ho to Talat bhai ki press conference ek bar or suniye ga, or is main ek nukta unhoon ne bayan kia hai jis mien woh apni is koshish ki waja bayan kar rahay hain:
"HAMARAY AADHAY SE ZAYEDA MASAIL MASLA E FALASTEEN SE JURAY HAIN".
Agar is nuktay per ghor karen, to mojoda halat ki shrooat kis waja se hui or waja kis waja se create hui, Mulk mien America or Western Countries se nafrat ki waja or mojoda MAzhabi Inteha pasandi ka root cause sab isi maslay se juray nazar aatay hain.
Go ke yeh kaavish kuch logon ki nazar main choti hi ho gee per agar dekha jaye to Masla e Falasteen ke liye buhat arsay ke bad pehla Amli qadam hai, jo ke durust simt main hai, Muslim Raye aama se zada hum ko Aalmi Raye aama ko bedar karna hai jo ke Taqreeban 65 Baras honay ke bawajood ab tak Masla e Falasteen se Lailm hai.
Aap ke bayan kiye gaye masail se inkar nahin hai, per kabhi hum sab ne yeh socha hai ke Mutaliqa Subject se agar hum hat kar degar Masail per discuss karnay lagen ge to hamara concentration divide ho jaye ga or hum pori yaksui ke sath ek problem ko solve nahin kar payen ge, agar hum bahaisyat e qaum ek ek kar ke apnay masail per bahami Itefaq or itehad ka muzahira karen ge to jo kaam salon se pending hain woh Insha Allah dinoon main hal ho jaye ge.
Allah hum sab ko Bahaisyat e qaum itehad atta farmaye. (Aamen)
Fursan
Minister (2k+ posts)
Fighting an Ideological war
History of terrorism is as old as history of man. Terrorism was used by states as well as groups to further their strategic goals throughout the history. Terrorism is use of Force / violence to incite fear in order to force government or group to do or abstain doing something which is desired by the group/person or state employing violence.
There are many types of terrorism like state terrorism as demonstrated by Zionist state of Israel in 2009 during invasion of Gaza or recent killings of peace activists in International waters then arresting them and taking them to Israel then accusing them of being illegally in Israel.
Then there is an ideological terrorism used by groups or states based on ideology like TTP/ Takfiri terrorism in SWAT and MALAKAND or recent attacks on Ahmedi minority in Lahore etc in which people were prosecuted on basis of ideology. Or Zionist terrorism in holy lands, where violence was and is being used and justified to Israelies by their racial Zionist ideology.
There is also a cyber terrorism where Hackers belonging to different groups hack and destroy or vandalize web sites of opposing ideology or state. And of course psychological and intellectual terrorism in which psychologically people are tortured on basis of their biases. Best example of this type is drawing cartoons of Prophet(PBUH) which tortured the Ummah and was justified by west on basis of freedom of expression which by the way changes when somebody deny Holocaust or criticize Zionist state of Israel.
In this essay we will discuss methods and ways of fighting war on terror which is also an ideological war but unfortunately no attention is being paid either by Pakistani government or by International community.
An ideology is defined by word web online.com dictionary as
“An orientation that characterizes the thinking of a group or nation”
On wikepedia Ideology is defined as
An ideology is a set of ideas that discusses one's goals, expectations, and actions. An ideology can be thought of as a comprehensive vision, as a way of looking at things (compare worldview), as in common sense (see Ideology in everyday society below) and several philosophical tendencies (see Political ideologies), or a set of ideas proposed by the dominant class of a society to all members of this society (a "received consciousness" or product of socialization). The main purpose behind an ideology is to offer change in society, and adherence to a set of ideals where conformity already exists, through a normative thought process. Ideologies are systems of abstract thought (as opposed to mere ideation) applied to public matters and thus make this concept central to politics. Implicitly every political tendency entails an ideology whether or not it is propounded as an explicit system of thought.
According to Jost, John T., Ledger wood and Alison, & Hardin, Curtis
that ideologies reflect motivational processes, as opposed to the view that political convictions always reflect independent and unbiased thinking and . Proposed that ideologies may function as prepackaged units of interpretation that spread because of basic human motives to understand the world, avoid existential threat, and maintain valued interpersonal relationships
(Shared reality, system justification, and the relational basis of ideological beliefs. Social and Personality Psychology Compass, 2,171-186, (2008)
Today’s war on terrorism is in fact war of perceptions and an Ideological war In this war e ideology is the driving force on both sides. It has roots in pre and post colonization era in which Muslims were exploited by European Powers. Their riches were looted and were left to starve and then not only left to starve but to add insult into injury were left at the mercy of western trained elite to suffer more. Power full were only allowed to decide the fate of weeks and hence a condition was created where Ummah had to face identity crisis.
Unfortunately Muslim clerics failed to lead the Ummah so with growing crisis the vacuum was filled with radicals . The perceptions created by reactionary radicals were further enforced by creation of Zionist state in Middle East and western supports to un popular leadership throughout middle east and world of Islam.
For strategic circles West , as observed by Michel Parenti , reactionary Islamism was perceived beneficial as it provided them opportunities to use Muslims against enemies such as communism and after its collapse providing West especially America opportunities to intervene in strategic locations and also in propagating their Capitalistic values to capture the minds of elites .
It’s a known secret that Hijaz was governed by Shareef of Makkah, who by conviction was not a moderate ruler. He was an ally of Britishers. After First World War he was replaced by radical Ale Saud and was given Iraq and Jordan in compensation. Hijaz is centre of Gravity of Muslims. Why was it given to radical Ale saud is a historical Question which help the students of history and Islamic extremism to understand the current situation.
Then after world war II , Islamist radicals were financed and used by west especially UK to counter Nassirism and Socialism. Hamas was created with blessings of Israel to counter much liberal PLO. In American Jihad against Soviets these radicals were financed and brought from all over the world to fight Soviets. Films like Rambo III etc portray these radicals as freedom fighting heroes.
During the same era week states such as Pakistan were encouraged to accommodate the radicals and mind set was intentionally created in Muslim world that these radicals were the real Muslims fighting godless communism and fighting for Islam.
Whole social fabric was changed and destroyed by Pro Mujahideen propaganda and distribution of Radical interpretations of Islam in vital Muslim countries. Radical Tafseers (commentaries)of Quran were even published in US and were distributed in Afghan Camps and in Pakistan free of cost with aim of motivating Muslims to fight American and western jihad.
After the collapse of Soviet Union these radicals were left to be dealt by their respective countries especially to Pakistan which was base for US Afghan Jihad. Prior to US afghan jihad Pakistani society was peaceful society; at least there were only isolated incidents of religious extremism. But during and after Afghan jihad things changed and Pakistani society became radicalized and Pakistan became battle ground of sectarian groups.
Pakistan suffered through out 80’s and 90’s due to sectarian terrorism. An important thing to note here is the generations born in 70’s and 80’s and to some extent in 90’s were radicalized by courtesy and help of US and Western capitalist countries. The province bordering Afghanistan during American Afghan Jihad saw Mushroom growth of Radical madrassas financed by US allies in Middle East brain washing Pakistani Youngster and radicalizing them.
The blame of today’s crisis of Muslim radicalism doesn’t go totally to west. Muslim elite and ruling class also have equal share of blame. West did what it had to further its strategic and ideological interests. In world of real Politiks everything is fare. Muslim clerics and Rulers are the culprits. They benefitted in this all flop of society and Ummah. For example Saudi elite after in 79 siege of Holy Kabba became afraid of revolt in the kingdom. They instead of cracking down on Radicals accommodated them by introducing laws based on radical interpretations driven by Arabian Bedouin culture in effort to eliminate the chances of situation and back lash of radicals.
Similarly Pakistani ruling elite wrongfully decided to support and act according to interests of American and capitalist block by allowing Pakistan to become front line state against Soviets and during the process earning hard cash. Then allowing Pakistan to become battle ground of Iran- Arab conflict.
Now coming to the main Issue. Islamic radicalism is an ideological challenge not only challenging west but also the world of Islam. Today due to Policies of External powers and that of Western influenced Muslim ruling elite a common Muslim finds himself in Identity crisis. The economic conditions coupled with geo political situation …influence his perceptions and create ideal conditions in his mind where he becomes vulnerable to radicals who interprets the situation in black and white by over simplifying and generalizing the historical and current facts for these people.
It’s a common observation that a desperate and frustrated mind is strongly attracted to radical and reactionary ideology. Media who has today more power on masses then government is used as a tool by the capitalists or the interest groups who run the outlets. The channels like fox plead the case of Christian radicals or those who believe in Pax Americana. Whereas channels like Press TV advocates the opposing side. Its an old saying that “: Perceptions are stronger then realities” Actions of common man are govern by perceptions not realities. Perceptions are based on historical experiences which give rise to thinking pattern, this thinking pattern give rise to ideologies which reflect motivational processes.
In Pakistan FATA and South Punjab are thought to be centers of radicals. Close study of these areas reveal that these areas are the poorest and most under developed areas in Pakistan where day today life is a war of survival itself. Due to neglect and poverty a common man is frustrated and hopeless and in sub conscious in reactionary mood against status cue.
Unfortunately as I have said before World is not realizing the importance of ideological element of this war. In Pakistan especially during Musharraf era Talibanization was tried to be fought liberal extremism which was very counterproductive and helped Religious radicals. Radicalism is a disease of society and should be dealt with care and strategy. Use of force and that to excessive force is always counterproductive in ideological wars. We have seen that Taliban Power grew after the US invasion of Afghanistan. With every Afghan dead 10 more joined Taliban. Similarly in Pakistan, due to no effort on ideological front Radicals were able to infiltrate and conduct their activities in settled areas throughout the country. Pakistan was abled to clear the Bajor, Swat , Malakand etc but it stills faces resistance in the cleared areas. This proves that holding and capturing the ground in no way means victory. The real victory means winning hearts and minds and winning souls which can only be achieved by countering militant ideology
Unfortunately the most important weapon to defeat Takfir in this ideological war are Ulema . Ulema are not coming forward. May be its because the radicals claim that they are fighting for islam or Ulema are afraid to come out. Especially after the death of Mollana Sarfraz Naeemi no one is willing to come forward and save Ummah by fighting this ideological war. Tahir ul Qaderi’s recent Fatwa against radical Takfiries and extremists is a great effort but one or two Ulema cannot make difference. Its duty of Ulema from all sects to come forward and guide Ummah against the menace of Takfir and radical ideology.
This war on Terror is not American or Capitalist war on Islam. It’s in Fact a war within Islam in which out siders are getting benefits. The weakness of Ummah lies in its disunity. Muslims are divided in sects and all sects are against each other. Any observant of history can note that from Khajrjies of 7th and 8th century to Takfiries of Modern time, its Ummah alone which suffered and is suffering. Prophet time and again said that best way is the balanced way. Today Ummah is suffering because Ulema and Muslim intellectuals are not performing their duty.
We like to blame west for everything and forget the problems within our house. Our insensitivity towards problem within is alienating the Ummah from the world and making Muslims a laughing stock. There are thousands of ways to protest the imperialism and injustice but killing , destroying and hurting those who have nothing to do with situation is not the way. Muslim need to win PR battle in west. People who have compassion for even tress and other living things cannot be insensitive to situation in Muslim countries. and who will not come to help Muslims if they have positive perception of Muslims. Un fortunately instead of producing Scholars and humanitarians, Muslim are in reactionary mode. This is having bad effect on the perceptions in minds of balanced and humanity loving people of west and America. In Fact Islamic radicals are helping western Radicals in this ideological war , only honest humans are suffering.
Its also duty of Citizens of Western Countries especially America to understand Muslim mind set and sensitivities in light of history. They should put pressure on their governments to bring justice in world order. For example US has tried to defend Israel over Peace flotilla incident. If Israel is left without condemnation and sanctions it will only help Radicals in their propaganda. But if Israel is forced by International community to apologize and sanctions are put on it things will be different. Muslims will feel that they are not out cast and have say. Similarly if western intellectuals educate people that Making fun of some ones most respected Religious personality is a crime similar to crime of denying holocaust and even more bigger as its terrorism against billions of Muslims and FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION do not mean Intellectual or psychological terrorism then it will help to great extent, to balanced Ulema in war against radical Islamists.
Summing up War on terror cannot be won without defeating the radical ideology of Al Qaeda and Takfir. Use of force against radicals is a short term answer which in long term creates more radicals. The radicalism which often is blamed on Islam is in fact a reaction to western imperialism and feeling of discrimination and suffering by Muslims. These radicals claim to fight for Islam but in fact are creating more suffering in Muslim Ummah along with bringing bad name to Islam . Its duty of Muslim intellectuals , especially Ulema to come forward and help fight this ideological war which has more serious consequences on world of Islam then any discrimination or injustice faced by Muslims.
History of terrorism is as old as history of man. Terrorism was used by states as well as groups to further their strategic goals throughout the history. Terrorism is use of Force / violence to incite fear in order to force government or group to do or abstain doing something which is desired by the group/person or state employing violence.
There are many types of terrorism like state terrorism as demonstrated by Zionist state of Israel in 2009 during invasion of Gaza or recent killings of peace activists in International waters then arresting them and taking them to Israel then accusing them of being illegally in Israel.
Then there is an ideological terrorism used by groups or states based on ideology like TTP/ Takfiri terrorism in SWAT and MALAKAND or recent attacks on Ahmedi minority in Lahore etc in which people were prosecuted on basis of ideology. Or Zionist terrorism in holy lands, where violence was and is being used and justified to Israelies by their racial Zionist ideology.
There is also a cyber terrorism where Hackers belonging to different groups hack and destroy or vandalize web sites of opposing ideology or state. And of course psychological and intellectual terrorism in which psychologically people are tortured on basis of their biases. Best example of this type is drawing cartoons of Prophet(PBUH) which tortured the Ummah and was justified by west on basis of freedom of expression which by the way changes when somebody deny Holocaust or criticize Zionist state of Israel.
In this essay we will discuss methods and ways of fighting war on terror which is also an ideological war but unfortunately no attention is being paid either by Pakistani government or by International community.
An ideology is defined by word web online.com dictionary as
“An orientation that characterizes the thinking of a group or nation”
On wikepedia Ideology is defined as
An ideology is a set of ideas that discusses one's goals, expectations, and actions. An ideology can be thought of as a comprehensive vision, as a way of looking at things (compare worldview), as in common sense (see Ideology in everyday society below) and several philosophical tendencies (see Political ideologies), or a set of ideas proposed by the dominant class of a society to all members of this society (a "received consciousness" or product of socialization). The main purpose behind an ideology is to offer change in society, and adherence to a set of ideals where conformity already exists, through a normative thought process. Ideologies are systems of abstract thought (as opposed to mere ideation) applied to public matters and thus make this concept central to politics. Implicitly every political tendency entails an ideology whether or not it is propounded as an explicit system of thought.
According to Jost, John T., Ledger wood and Alison, & Hardin, Curtis
that ideologies reflect motivational processes, as opposed to the view that political convictions always reflect independent and unbiased thinking and . Proposed that ideologies may function as prepackaged units of interpretation that spread because of basic human motives to understand the world, avoid existential threat, and maintain valued interpersonal relationships
(Shared reality, system justification, and the relational basis of ideological beliefs. Social and Personality Psychology Compass, 2,171-186, (2008)
Today’s war on terrorism is in fact war of perceptions and an Ideological war In this war e ideology is the driving force on both sides. It has roots in pre and post colonization era in which Muslims were exploited by European Powers. Their riches were looted and were left to starve and then not only left to starve but to add insult into injury were left at the mercy of western trained elite to suffer more. Power full were only allowed to decide the fate of weeks and hence a condition was created where Ummah had to face identity crisis.
Unfortunately Muslim clerics failed to lead the Ummah so with growing crisis the vacuum was filled with radicals . The perceptions created by reactionary radicals were further enforced by creation of Zionist state in Middle East and western supports to un popular leadership throughout middle east and world of Islam.
For strategic circles West , as observed by Michel Parenti , reactionary Islamism was perceived beneficial as it provided them opportunities to use Muslims against enemies such as communism and after its collapse providing West especially America opportunities to intervene in strategic locations and also in propagating their Capitalistic values to capture the minds of elites .
It’s a known secret that Hijaz was governed by Shareef of Makkah, who by conviction was not a moderate ruler. He was an ally of Britishers. After First World War he was replaced by radical Ale Saud and was given Iraq and Jordan in compensation. Hijaz is centre of Gravity of Muslims. Why was it given to radical Ale saud is a historical Question which help the students of history and Islamic extremism to understand the current situation.
Then after world war II , Islamist radicals were financed and used by west especially UK to counter Nassirism and Socialism. Hamas was created with blessings of Israel to counter much liberal PLO. In American Jihad against Soviets these radicals were financed and brought from all over the world to fight Soviets. Films like Rambo III etc portray these radicals as freedom fighting heroes.
During the same era week states such as Pakistan were encouraged to accommodate the radicals and mind set was intentionally created in Muslim world that these radicals were the real Muslims fighting godless communism and fighting for Islam.
Whole social fabric was changed and destroyed by Pro Mujahideen propaganda and distribution of Radical interpretations of Islam in vital Muslim countries. Radical Tafseers (commentaries)of Quran were even published in US and were distributed in Afghan Camps and in Pakistan free of cost with aim of motivating Muslims to fight American and western jihad.
After the collapse of Soviet Union these radicals were left to be dealt by their respective countries especially to Pakistan which was base for US Afghan Jihad. Prior to US afghan jihad Pakistani society was peaceful society; at least there were only isolated incidents of religious extremism. But during and after Afghan jihad things changed and Pakistani society became radicalized and Pakistan became battle ground of sectarian groups.
Pakistan suffered through out 80’s and 90’s due to sectarian terrorism. An important thing to note here is the generations born in 70’s and 80’s and to some extent in 90’s were radicalized by courtesy and help of US and Western capitalist countries. The province bordering Afghanistan during American Afghan Jihad saw Mushroom growth of Radical madrassas financed by US allies in Middle East brain washing Pakistani Youngster and radicalizing them.
The blame of today’s crisis of Muslim radicalism doesn’t go totally to west. Muslim elite and ruling class also have equal share of blame. West did what it had to further its strategic and ideological interests. In world of real Politiks everything is fare. Muslim clerics and Rulers are the culprits. They benefitted in this all flop of society and Ummah. For example Saudi elite after in 79 siege of Holy Kabba became afraid of revolt in the kingdom. They instead of cracking down on Radicals accommodated them by introducing laws based on radical interpretations driven by Arabian Bedouin culture in effort to eliminate the chances of situation and back lash of radicals.
Similarly Pakistani ruling elite wrongfully decided to support and act according to interests of American and capitalist block by allowing Pakistan to become front line state against Soviets and during the process earning hard cash. Then allowing Pakistan to become battle ground of Iran- Arab conflict.
Now coming to the main Issue. Islamic radicalism is an ideological challenge not only challenging west but also the world of Islam. Today due to Policies of External powers and that of Western influenced Muslim ruling elite a common Muslim finds himself in Identity crisis. The economic conditions coupled with geo political situation …influence his perceptions and create ideal conditions in his mind where he becomes vulnerable to radicals who interprets the situation in black and white by over simplifying and generalizing the historical and current facts for these people.
It’s a common observation that a desperate and frustrated mind is strongly attracted to radical and reactionary ideology. Media who has today more power on masses then government is used as a tool by the capitalists or the interest groups who run the outlets. The channels like fox plead the case of Christian radicals or those who believe in Pax Americana. Whereas channels like Press TV advocates the opposing side. Its an old saying that “: Perceptions are stronger then realities” Actions of common man are govern by perceptions not realities. Perceptions are based on historical experiences which give rise to thinking pattern, this thinking pattern give rise to ideologies which reflect motivational processes.
In Pakistan FATA and South Punjab are thought to be centers of radicals. Close study of these areas reveal that these areas are the poorest and most under developed areas in Pakistan where day today life is a war of survival itself. Due to neglect and poverty a common man is frustrated and hopeless and in sub conscious in reactionary mood against status cue.
Unfortunately as I have said before World is not realizing the importance of ideological element of this war. In Pakistan especially during Musharraf era Talibanization was tried to be fought liberal extremism which was very counterproductive and helped Religious radicals. Radicalism is a disease of society and should be dealt with care and strategy. Use of force and that to excessive force is always counterproductive in ideological wars. We have seen that Taliban Power grew after the US invasion of Afghanistan. With every Afghan dead 10 more joined Taliban. Similarly in Pakistan, due to no effort on ideological front Radicals were able to infiltrate and conduct their activities in settled areas throughout the country. Pakistan was abled to clear the Bajor, Swat , Malakand etc but it stills faces resistance in the cleared areas. This proves that holding and capturing the ground in no way means victory. The real victory means winning hearts and minds and winning souls which can only be achieved by countering militant ideology
Unfortunately the most important weapon to defeat Takfir in this ideological war are Ulema . Ulema are not coming forward. May be its because the radicals claim that they are fighting for islam or Ulema are afraid to come out. Especially after the death of Mollana Sarfraz Naeemi no one is willing to come forward and save Ummah by fighting this ideological war. Tahir ul Qaderi’s recent Fatwa against radical Takfiries and extremists is a great effort but one or two Ulema cannot make difference. Its duty of Ulema from all sects to come forward and guide Ummah against the menace of Takfir and radical ideology.
This war on Terror is not American or Capitalist war on Islam. It’s in Fact a war within Islam in which out siders are getting benefits. The weakness of Ummah lies in its disunity. Muslims are divided in sects and all sects are against each other. Any observant of history can note that from Khajrjies of 7th and 8th century to Takfiries of Modern time, its Ummah alone which suffered and is suffering. Prophet time and again said that best way is the balanced way. Today Ummah is suffering because Ulema and Muslim intellectuals are not performing their duty.
We like to blame west for everything and forget the problems within our house. Our insensitivity towards problem within is alienating the Ummah from the world and making Muslims a laughing stock. There are thousands of ways to protest the imperialism and injustice but killing , destroying and hurting those who have nothing to do with situation is not the way. Muslim need to win PR battle in west. People who have compassion for even tress and other living things cannot be insensitive to situation in Muslim countries. and who will not come to help Muslims if they have positive perception of Muslims. Un fortunately instead of producing Scholars and humanitarians, Muslim are in reactionary mode. This is having bad effect on the perceptions in minds of balanced and humanity loving people of west and America. In Fact Islamic radicals are helping western Radicals in this ideological war , only honest humans are suffering.
Its also duty of Citizens of Western Countries especially America to understand Muslim mind set and sensitivities in light of history. They should put pressure on their governments to bring justice in world order. For example US has tried to defend Israel over Peace flotilla incident. If Israel is left without condemnation and sanctions it will only help Radicals in their propaganda. But if Israel is forced by International community to apologize and sanctions are put on it things will be different. Muslims will feel that they are not out cast and have say. Similarly if western intellectuals educate people that Making fun of some ones most respected Religious personality is a crime similar to crime of denying holocaust and even more bigger as its terrorism against billions of Muslims and FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION do not mean Intellectual or psychological terrorism then it will help to great extent, to balanced Ulema in war against radical Islamists.
Summing up War on terror cannot be won without defeating the radical ideology of Al Qaeda and Takfir. Use of force against radicals is a short term answer which in long term creates more radicals. The radicalism which often is blamed on Islam is in fact a reaction to western imperialism and feeling of discrimination and suffering by Muslims. These radicals claim to fight for Islam but in fact are creating more suffering in Muslim Ummah along with bringing bad name to Islam . Its duty of Muslim intellectuals , especially Ulema to come forward and help fight this ideological war which has more serious consequences on world of Islam then any discrimination or injustice faced by Muslims.
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[FONT=Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif]DEMONSTRATIONS [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Note that the following activities are not organized by CJPME, but by local solidarity groups active in the specified cities as noted. Cities are listed in alphabetical order.
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Date: Saturday, June 5, 2010 [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Date: Friday, June 4, 2010[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Montreal, QC [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Time: 1:30 p.m.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Date: Saturday, June 5, 2010[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Time: Noon[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Date: Friday, June 4, 2010 [/FONT]
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[FONT=Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif]DEMONSTRATIONS [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Note that the following activities are not organized by CJPME, but by local solidarity groups active in the specified cities as noted. Cities are listed in alphabetical order.
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Halifax, NS [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Date: Friday, June 4, 2010[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Time: 4:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Location: Maritime Mall (Aliant Bldg., where the passport office is)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Departure: Barrington Street and Spring Garden Road[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Time: 4:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Location: Maritime Mall (Aliant Bldg., where the passport office is)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Departure: Barrington Street and Spring Garden Road[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Date: Saturday, June 5, 2010 [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Time: 1:00 p.m. - 2:30 p.m. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Location: Victoria Park [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Departure: Spring Garden Road at South Park St. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Organizers: Ad Hoc Committee to Defend Palestine[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Location: Victoria Park [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Departure: Spring Garden Road at South Park St. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Organizers: Ad Hoc Committee to Defend Palestine[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Hamilton, ON[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Date: Friday, June 4, 2010[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Time: 5:00 p.m.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Location: Federal Government Building in Hamilton [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Departure: 55 Bay St. North[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Organizers: Hamilton Coalition to Stop the War[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Organizers: Hamilton Coalition to Stop the War[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]London, ON [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Date: Friday, June 4, 2010[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Time: 4:00 p.m. - 6:00 p.m.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Location: Victoria Park[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Departure: Central & Richmond[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Organizers: Canadian Palestinian Association, London People for Peace, C Friends of Sabeel (London) PAL Student Association.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Organizers: Canadian Palestinian Association, London People for Peace, C Friends of Sabeel (London) PAL Student Association.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Montreal, QC [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Date: Saturday, June 5, 2010[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Time: 1:30 p.m.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Departure: corner Peel and Ste-Catherine[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]End point: The Old Port of Montreal[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Bring a small tent to plant on site! [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]To build a camp where we will all be ''refugees of Gaza'' waiting for the ships transporting humanitarian aid to arrive.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Organizers: Coalition for Justice & Peace in Palestine (CJPP), Solidarity for Palestinian Human, Rights (SPHR), Tadamon! Montreal, Palestinian and Jewish Unity (PAJU)[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Organizers: Coalition for Justice & Peace in Palestine (CJPP), Solidarity for Palestinian Human, Rights (SPHR), Tadamon! Montreal, Palestinian and Jewish Unity (PAJU)[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Ottawa, ON [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Date: Saturday, June 5, 2010[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Time: 3:00 p.m. - 4:30 p.m.[/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Location: Human Rights Monument [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Departure: Elgin and Lisgar [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Organizers: Ottawa Palestine Solidarity Network[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Organizers: Ottawa Palestine Solidarity Network[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Penticton, BC [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Date: Saturday, June 5, 2010[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Time: Noon[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Location: Stockwell Day's Office[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Organizers: Penticton Peace Groups [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Quebec City, Qc [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Date: Friday, June 4, 2010[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Time: 5:00 p.m.[/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Departure: corner of Honor-Mercier Avenue, Grande-Alle Blvd. W. and St-Louis St. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Organizers: Collectif de Qubec pour la paix[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Toronto, ON [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Date: Friday, June 4, 2010[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Time: 5:00 p.m. - 9:00 p.m.[/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Location: Israeli Consulate[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Street: 180 Bloor Street West[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Date: Saturday, June 5, 2010[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Time: 1:00 p.m. - 3:00 p.m.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Location: Israeli Consulate[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Street: 180 Bloor Street West[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Organizers: Coalition Against Israeli Apartheid (CAIA), Palestine House Community Centre, Canadian Arab Federation (CAF), Toronto Coalition to Stop the War (TCSW), Canadian Peace Alliance (CPA)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Organizers: Coalition Against Israeli Apartheid (CAIA), Palestine House Community Centre, Canadian Arab Federation (CAF), Toronto Coalition to Stop the War (TCSW), Canadian Peace Alliance (CPA)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Vancouver, BC[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Date: Saturday, June 5, 2010[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Time: 1:00 p.m.[/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Location: Vancouver Art Gallery (Georgia Side) [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Street: 750 Hornby Street, Vancouver, BC[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Organizers: Solidarity for Palestinian Human Rights - UBC, Canada Palestine Association, Independent Jewish Voices, Canada Palestine Support Network (CanPalNet), Boycott Israel Apartheid Campaign (BIAC), No One Is Illegal, Stop War Vancouver[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Victoria, BC[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Date: Saturday, June 5, 2010[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Time: 11:00 a.m.[/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Location: Centennial Square (near fountain) [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Street: Douglas and Pandora [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Organizers: Coalition Against Israeli Apartheid, Central American Solidarity Committee, Victoria Peace Coalition, Victoria Goods For Cuba.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Organizers: Coalition Against Israeli Apartheid, Central American Solidarity Committee, Victoria Peace Coalition, Victoria Goods For Cuba.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Waterloo, ON[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Time: 1 p.m. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Departure: SLC Courtyard, Waterloo University campus[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Organizers: Students for Palestinian Rights[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Winnipeg, MN[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Date: Friday, June 4, 2010 [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Time: 4:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Departure: Broadway Avenue and Osborne Street [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Organizers: Peace Alliance Winnipeg, Independent Jewish Voices, and CanPalNet[/FONT]
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Israel will stop boat from reaching Gaza: minister
Israel will stop another boat carrying aid and activists from penetrating its blockade and reaching the Gaza Strip, Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman said on Friday.
Israel, facing an international outcry over its naval operation on Monday in which nine Turkish activists were killed on a ship bound for Gaza, has vowed to prevent the Rachel Corrie from reaching the Gaza coast.
"We will stop the ship, and also any other ship that will try to harm Israeli sovereignty. There is no chance the Rachel Corrie will reach the coast of Gaza," Lieberman said on Israel's Channel 1 television.
The Irish-owned vessel is a converted merchant ship bought by pro-Palestinian activists and named after an American woman killed in the Gaza Strip in 2003.
One of the activists on board, Irishman Denis Halliday, a former U.N. assistant secretary-general, told Irish radio they expected to reach the exclusion zone overnight and planned to continue toward Gaza in daylight.
In Dublin, Irish Foreign Minister Micheal Martin said in a statement: "Those on board the Rachel Corrie have indicated that they are ready to accept inspection of their cargo at sea, prior to docking in Gaza."
Lieberman added that Israeli officials had been in touch with the Irish Foreign Ministry and said: "We clarified ... to the Irish and to others, no ship will arrive in Gaza without a security check, without checking the cargo, without knowing for certain (what is on board)."
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6535GG20100604
Israel will stop another boat carrying aid and activists from penetrating its blockade and reaching the Gaza Strip, Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman said on Friday.
Israel, facing an international outcry over its naval operation on Monday in which nine Turkish activists were killed on a ship bound for Gaza, has vowed to prevent the Rachel Corrie from reaching the Gaza coast.
"We will stop the ship, and also any other ship that will try to harm Israeli sovereignty. There is no chance the Rachel Corrie will reach the coast of Gaza," Lieberman said on Israel's Channel 1 television.
The Irish-owned vessel is a converted merchant ship bought by pro-Palestinian activists and named after an American woman killed in the Gaza Strip in 2003.
One of the activists on board, Irishman Denis Halliday, a former U.N. assistant secretary-general, told Irish radio they expected to reach the exclusion zone overnight and planned to continue toward Gaza in daylight.
In Dublin, Irish Foreign Minister Micheal Martin said in a statement: "Those on board the Rachel Corrie have indicated that they are ready to accept inspection of their cargo at sea, prior to docking in Gaza."
Lieberman added that Israeli officials had been in touch with the Irish Foreign Ministry and said: "We clarified ... to the Irish and to others, no ship will arrive in Gaza without a security check, without checking the cargo, without knowing for certain (what is on board)."
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6535GG20100604
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shagi
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how many boats they gonna stop ?
yaar jalte kyun ho ?????
