awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Absolutly . . . Especially by the Norwegian Government whose military jets are involved in such bombings on daily basis in Libya . . . . Its Army is committing the same crimes in Afghanistan . . . .

In Afghanistan the Norwegian Forces are not part of ANY attack squad. They have 5000 troops as part of rescue and repair mission and are more symbolic than anything else due to Norway being part of Nato.

Norway has given only six planes to the Libya operation intitally and then reduced them to four. they will be quitting the campaign next month altogether due to inability of Nato to muster international support for the operation.

However you very conveniently forgot to mention the fact that Norway has announced that it will be the first country to recognize a Palestinian State if the peace talk fails. They have called for a Palestinian State to be established by the end of 2011. They have upgraded the Palestinian mission to embassy status.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...estinian-embassy-calls-for-state-in-2011.html

Name one Muslim country which has come out and made a similar statement?

Dont spread blind hatred with your sh*t laced comments.
 

ishwaq

Minister (2k+ posts)
Anders Behring Breivik 12-minute anti-Muslim video called Knights Templar 2083,video link

[video]http://www.veoh.com/watch/v21123164bZCBQeZ8[/video]
Mr Breivik has been charged with committing acts of terrorism, and is due to appear in court on Monday when judges will decide whether he should be detained as the investigation continues.The suspect is reported to have had links with right-wing extremists. Still pictures of him, wearing a wetsuit and carrying an automatic weapon, appeared in a 12-minute anti-Muslim video called Knights Templar 2083, which appeared briefly on YouTube.</P>
<P id=story_continues_2>A 1,500-page document written in English and said to be by Mr Breivik - posted under the pseudonym of Andrew Berwick - was also put online hours before the attacks, suggesting they had been years in the planning.</P>
<P>The document and the video repeatedly refer to multiculturalism and Muslim immigration; the author claims to be a follower of the Knights Templar - a medieval Christian organisation involved in the Crusades, and sometimes revered by white supremacists.
 

PkRevolution

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
"Bastar*ds" was for who ever did it.

The rest was based on the FACT that there is a guy called Mullah Krekar who is living in Norway on asylum and threatens the Norwegians with terror strikes if he is deported and yet at the same time runs a terror organization which operates in Iraq.

Because of assh*les like him the first suspects were muslims in Norway. If he hadnt been an assh*le and kept his sh*t in his mouth it wouldnt have been that spontaneous because people in Norway are generally cautious about accusing on false basis.

If you dont know the facts yourself than you should keep you pie-hole shut. I have lived there and know more about them then you do wiseguy.

This Christian fundamentalist Norwegian guy accepted what he did.

First i though that Hindu extremists are behind this attack to destroy the well established reputancy of Pakistanis in Norway.
 

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
This Christian fundamentalist Norwegian guy accepted what he did.

First i though that Hindu extremists are behind this attack to destroy the well established reputancy of Pakistanis in Norway.

This is called having ones head buried in the sand.

Let me open your eyes about the well established "reputancy" of the Pakistanis in Norway. The largest non-european immigrant community in Norway is Pakistanis. Their main occupation is taxi-driving. Despite having lived there for over 30 years, they still prefer to make their children taxi drivers instead of making them utilize the higher education facilities and become professional engineers or doctors or anything else.
If that wasnt bad enough the criminal activities of Oslo are under the sole control of two Pakistani gangs, called Gang A and Gang B. They are each others rivals and often get into gang wars. The drug trade in Scandinavia is almost solely control by these gangs. The Norwegians are clamping down on Pakistanis migrating now and have toughened laws on 'spouse import' which is the main source of immigration among Pakistanis.

From personal experience i have been asked more than once by my Norwegian friends that what is the problem with Pakistanis? We invite them to live in our country and reap the benefits of a rich nation yet you come here and cause problems for us and act as un dignified guests. I had no answer.
Moreover the Norwegians are irked by the lack of integration practiced by the Pakistani community whereby they do not intermingle with non-Pakistanis.
Now the Norwegians are bringing in Polish workers instead of non-European workers to fill in the labor market.
 

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
KARACHI: Anders Behring Breivik, the Norwegian terrorist who killed more than 90 people in two attacks in Oslo, was mortally terrified of the idea of several mini Pakistans appearing all over the map of Europe.

In a 1,600-page manifesto titled 2083: A European Declaration of Independence, Breivik laid out a stark picture of the future of Europe, citing poor human rights in Pakistan as the fate of the continent.Norwegian authorities confirmed on Sunday that the manifesto was written by Breivik.
In his doomsday scenario for Europe, Breivik predicts that several mini-Pakistans would be created all over Europe by 2083, one in each country due to Lebanon-style conflicts. It could be similar to the division of India after World War II, with the creation of one or several Islamic Pakistan enclaves, he says.
While Breiviks rhetoric against Muslim immigration into Europe is not unusual, he cites many names that might be familiar to Pakistanis, including Allama Muhammad Iqbal and Maulana Abul Ala Maududi, as well as prominent human rights activist Hina Jilani andDawn columnist Irfan Hussain.
He seems to believe that Iqbal, in particular, was sympathetic to communism and views multiculturalism as a Marxist concept. He quotes Iqbal as saying Islam equals communism plus Allah.
Breivik also claims that Pakistan is systematically annihilating all non-Muslim communities. He claimed that Hindu girls are being forced to convert to Islam in Sindh. In this context he even quotes Hina Jilani as saying: Have you ever heard of an Indian Muslim girl being forced to embrace Hinduism? Its Muslims winning by intimidation.
He goes on to describe the situation for Christians in Pakistan as being no better, citing Father Emmanuel Asi of the Theological Institute for Laity in Lahore as saying in 2007 that Pakistani Christians are frequently denied equal rights.
Jamaat-e-Islami founder Abul Ala Maududi is also quoted in the manifesto, though in a manner that would imply that the stated objective of an Islamic state is to kill or subdue all non-Muslims around the world.
Breivik seems to be a fan of Daily Times columnist Razi Azmi, whom he calls one of the more sensible columnists of Pakistan. He mentions one of Azmis pieces where the columnist asks whether it was possible to imagine a Muslim converting to Christianity or Hinduism or Buddhism in a Muslim country, using it to support his view of Islam as an intolerant religion.
He also cites Dawns Irfan Hussains column criticising Hizb u-Tahrirs vision of a caliphate.
His ire against Pakistanis and Muslims seems to have at least partial origin in personal experience. He speaks at length about his childhood best friend, a Pakistani Muslim immigrant to Norway who, despite having lived several years in Europe still appeared to resent Norway and Norwegian society. Not because he was jealous but because it represented the exact opposite of Islamic ways, Breivik conjectures.
The inability of Muslim immigrants to assimilate into European society seems to bother him, which he blames on Muslim parents not allowing their children to adopt European ways. He also asks why Muslim girls are considered off-limits to everyone, including Muslim boys, and why Muslim men view ethnic Norwegian women as whores.
He also seems to believe that the Muslims in Europe who collect government benefits view it as a form of jizya, a medieval Islamic tax charged on non-Muslim minorities.
He rails against multiculturalism, which he blames for making immigration too easy for Muslims in Europe. When the veil of multiculturalism disappears, it will be Pakistanis who live in London, Turks who live in Berlin, Algerians who live in Paris and Moroccans who live in Amsterdam. And then the show begins, he says.
That show, he says, is a dramatic demographic shift that he calls the Pakistanisation of Europe.
Published in The Express Tribune, July 25[SUP]th[/SUP], 2011.

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This is how our "reputancy" is established in Europe.

A lot of you will rail that this is the thinking of one lone psycho but I can assure you this thinking prevails within the sane elements of the European society. A lot of the well organized welfare states are already seeing Muslims as people who leech on the welfare system without making any substantial contribution and whose only sole aim is to get more of their relatives out there to enjoy the benefits.





 

moazzamniaz

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The diary + manifesto of this killer is an eye opener for every Muslim as well as Pakistani. For the past 2 days, i have been reading it. There is something fundamentally screwed with our every affiliation, thinking, psyche and belief. Our expansionist, intolerant, hypocritical, unequal and violent attitude towards people of other faiths has every thing to do with this maniac and its abhorrent ideology. It was not enough for the world to tackle Islamist majhools and now in response christian conservative majhools have started to pop up. I m giving the link of the diary below

http://www.scribd.com/doc/60739170/2083-a-European-Declaration-of-Independence
 

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The diary + manifesto of this killer is an eye opener for every Muslim as well as Pakistani. For the past 2 days, i have been reading it. There is something fundamentally screwed with our every affiliation, thinking, psyche and belief. Our expansionist, intolerant, hypocritical, unequal and violent attitude towards people of other faiths has every thing to do with this maniac and its abhorrent ideology. It was not enough for the world to tackle Islamist majhools and now in response christian conservative majhools have started to pop up. I m giving the link of the diary below

http://www.scribd.com/doc/60739170/2083-a-European-Declaration-of-Independence


Very well said.

This screwed up mentality is evident in the posts we see on this forum and like a few on this very thread. You and I will witness more hate mongering bullsh*t in response to our posts. No one will stop to think for a moment where WE have gone wrong.
Every assh*le thinks we are in the right. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the way we act, its only the reactionary psychos from the other side who have a twisted mind. Well I say f*ck you to any one who thinks like that.
 

Scorpion

Banned
In 2008, Mumbai attack we had proof and your Govt. accepted, so jumped right. In 2011 Mumbai serial blast, we did not have proof, so we did not blame Pakistan. So we did not jump but still investigating.

Dear this Zardari Government has accepted not our Courts and the case is still going on and remember that your stupid proofs for the Pakistani involvement has very less chance to stand in our courts unless you are Reymond Davis itself . . . .
 

moazzamniaz

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Very well said.

This screwed up mentality is evident in the posts we see on this forum and like a few on this very thread. You and I will witness more hate mongering bullsh*t in response to our posts. No one will stop to think for a moment where WE have gone wrong.
Every assh*le thinks we are in the right. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the way we act, its only the reactionary psychos from the other side who have a twisted mind. Well I say f*ck you to any one who thinks like that.

Who gives a flying ...... what they think or not!!!!! Continuous reign of terrorism by islamist majhools coupled with deafening silence of common muslims over such cowardly acts all over the world, has made violence the new face of islam. The whole world is tired sick of our empty rhetorics "Religion of peace", "It is the fault of the driver, not the car"; well nobody gives a damn whether it is our brain or our car which is totally f*ked up, they just want us to get off the frigging road and stay away from it. All the terrorist sympathizers, taliban apologists and mulla appeasers are having a field day on this thread without thinking for a minute that islamic zealots kill hundreds of innocent muslims daily. Their novice supporters are not here to condemn the perpetrator, they just want their own islamist terrorists to be absolved of all their filthy crimes. And who cares whether they give us BS or rose petals, all i know that their twisted mentality and its consequences have started coming up.
 
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Scorpion

Banned
"Bastar*ds" was for who ever did it.The rest was based on the FACT that there is a guy called Mullah Krekar who is living in Norway on asylum and threatens the Norwegians with terror strikes if he is deported and yet at the same time runs a terror organization which operates in Iraq. Because of assh*les like him the first suspects were muslims in Norway. If he hadnt been an assh*le and kept his sh*t in his mouth it wouldnt have been that spontaneous because people in Norway are generally cautious about accusing on false basis.If you dont know the facts yourself than you should keep you pie-hole shut. I have lived there and know more about them then you do wiseguy.

What was the link of your's mullah to this incident that you felt the need to mention his name . . . . Rest if he is really threatening the Norwegian Governments its up to them to charge him and to deport, than for you to start jumping after any incident blaming him for all the bad in that country . . . . And by the way, was the terror organization he was running happens to be the Coalition Forces indeed . . . . .

And are the Norwegians as stupid as you are that they blame a whole community for the words of a single person or the reason to hate Islam, Muhammad (SAW) and Quran are some thing else . . . .

And Authority on the Norwegian affairs . . . . Indeed the Norwegian Government will be pleased for your return to Norway and advise them on the National Security matters . . . . Why you wasting time here on Sisat.pk . .
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haqiqat

MPA (400+ posts)
Norwegian Shooter Loves Israel
Anders Behring Breivik, the man being held for Friday's shooting at an island off the coast of Norway, expressed anti-Islamic sentiments in English in the past and was an enthusiastic supporter of Israel, according to a Sunday-evening report by Channel 2 television. Breivik's 1,500 page book attacks the European political establishment because he sees it as an ally of the Muslims against Israel, and praises Israel for not giving Muslims the same rights they enjoy in different European countries.
Breivik says, "The time has come to stop the stupid support of the Palestinians...and to start supporting our cultural cousins - Israel." The sight of the massacre was a camp which demanded, days earlier, that Israel "finish the occupation." Anti-Israel, pro-Arab signs were hung in the camp. The death toll in the shooting and the explosion of a bomb in downtown Oslo stands at 93.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/215928
 
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Scorpion

Banned
In Afghanistan the Norwegian Forces are not part of ANY attack squad. They have 5000 troops as part of rescue and repair mission and are more symbolic than anything else due to Norway being part of Nato.

Norway has given only six planes to the Libya operation intitally and then reduced them to four. they will be quitting the campaign next month altogether due to inability of Nato to muster international support for the operation.

However you very conveniently forgot to mention the fact that Norway has announced that it will be the first country to recognize a Palestinian State if the peace talk fails. They have called for a Palestinian State to be established by the end of 2011. They have upgraded the Palestinian mission to embassy status.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...estinian-embassy-calls-for-state-in-2011.html

Name one Muslim country which has come out and made a similar statement?

Dont spread blind hatred with your sh*t laced comments.

Dear Authority on the Norwegian Affairs

First of all the number of Norwegian troops are just 500 and not 5000 as I blame the typing error for that . . . . However they are providing rescue and maintenance services to a force which is murdering Afghanis on daily basis therefore blame for the bloodshed relies on them too . . . .

Now for your Six to Four aircraft theory . . . . Are they participating in bombings or not and the answer is yes . . . . And should the Norwegian Aircrafts bombarding the Libyan Civilians with Bread, Cakes and Buns that we should be proud of that . . . .

And for their efforts for the Palestinian Cause . . . . I praise them for that and even say that, for a 1 in 100 chance may be the Israeli Intelligence may be involved in this act to destabilize the current regime, whose policies are much different than the previous fanatic Mr. Rassmussen . . . . As a single person cant do so much carnage . . . .

However, I cant justify Norwegian bad deeds for the good they are doing . . . .That is support to International terrorist USA in Afghanistan and Iraq . . . .
 
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awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

What was the link of your's mullah to this incident that you felt the need to mention his name . . . . Rest if he is really threatening the Norwegian Governments its up to them to charge him and to deport, than for you to start jumping after any incident blaming him for all the bad in that country . . . . And by the way, was the terror organization he was running happens to be the Coalition Forces indeed . . . . .

And are the Norwegians as stupid as you are that they blame a whole community for the words of a single person or the reason to hate Islam, Muhammad (SAW) and Quran are some thing else . . . .

And Authority on the Norwegian affairs . . . . Indeed the Norwegian Government will be pleased for your return to Norway and advise them on the National Security matters . . . . Why you wasting time here on Sisat.pk . .
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Just google Mullah Krekar and you will get all the links you want.

I think you lack the required IQ to infer what a person is trying to say in simple terms.
Let me break it down for you again.

Mullah Krekar is paving the way for Muslims in Norway to live in fear of racist attacks in future by such right wing crazies who point out Mullah Krekars audacity to threaten the very country which is grasious enough to host him although a vile assh*le like him would be shot if he were living in any 'Muslim Country' in the middle east.

And are the Norwegians as stupid as you are that they blame a whole community for the words of a single person

Are you living in the current century or some other time like 30 years ago maybe?
This is a global world. Everyone knows what is going on everywhere else. Rightly or wrongly Muslims have already gotten a bad name due to a mixture of our own faults and our enemies strategies so a single person running an extremist organization and talking about killing 'infidels' while sitting in an 'infidel' country enjoying free asylum Kroners has a lot of impact with his hate speech.

And Authority on the Norwegian affairs . . . . Indeed the Norwegian Government will be pleased for your return to Norway and advise them on the National Security matters . . . . Why you wasting time here on Sisat.pk

If it were upto me I would strip all Pakistanis of the Norwegian nationality so that the sword of deportation would hang on their heads at all times and then they would live in peace and strive for more than just being taxi drivers and gang members of Gang A or B. (google pakistani gangs in oslo, and also watch "izzat", a norwegian movie made by an ex-gang member of Pakistani origin)
 

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Dear Authority on the Norwegian Affairs

First of all the number of Norwegian troops are just 500 and not 5000 as I blame the typing error for that . . . . However they are providing rescue and maintenance services to a force which is murdering Afghanis on daily basis therefore blame for the bloodshed relies on them too . . . .

Now for your Six to Four aircraft theory . . . . Are they participating in bombings or not and the answer is yes . . . . And should the Norwegian Aircrafts bombarding the Libyan Civilians with Bread, Cakes and Buns that we should be proud of that . . . .

And for their efforts for the Palestinian Cause . . . . I praise them for that and even say that, for a 1 in 100 chance may be the Israeli Intelligence may be involved in this act to destabilize the current regime, whose policies are much different than the previous fanatic Mr. Rassmussen . . . . As a single person cant do so much carnage . . . .

However, I cant justify Norwegian bad deeds for the good they are doing . . . .That is support to International terrorist USA in Afghanistan and Iraq . . . .

Go and fix your puppet regimes of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan first who have killed more Muslims at the Americans behest than any Norwegian can ever dream of allowing under their watch.
 

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
When I was 17-years-old, I was a trouble child. I was oscillating between depression and rage, my teachers and parents had no control over me, and most of all, I had a profound sense of being an outcast from the society that I lived in.To offset this overwhelming sense of alienation, I turned to the internet, my only window into a world outside my own. It was here that I actively sought to find meaning and to fill the gaping hole that my own society and culture could not fill.What I found, (amongst other things), was a one-man black metal band from Bergen, Norway called Burzum the brain-child of Varg Vikernes, a talented musician, a neo-nazi, an occasional preacher of eugenics (racial purity) and a convicted murderer who received Norways harshest jail sentence of 21 years.This same sentence, by the way, is likely to be given to Anders Behring Breivik the man who slaughtered 93 of his countrymen in Oslo, Norway on the same day that he published his 1,500 page right-wing, extremist, ultra-nationalist manifesto.Back to the story: the reason I was drawn to Vikernes music was fairly straight forward; it was loud, it was reactionary and it was as alien to Pakistan as was my own fragile identity at the time. The reason I was drawn to Vikernes later articles and extreme, nationalist, political philosophy was perhaps more convoluted, but it did happen.I read everything Vikernes wrote. I collected it and pored over it late at night, trying to resolve the cognitive dissonance I experienced due to his strong dislike of brown and black inferior races and my desire to be just as powerful as the man who wrote those words. Deep inside, my hatred for my life and the people I met connected with this ideology at some irrational level.Vikernes solution of a Norway free of the impurities brought to the country by invaders, invading ideologies such as Christianity andmembers of other ethnic groups made me want to start a similar movement to rid Pakistan of all things and people I did not like.Yes it was unutterably childish, but so deep ran my obsession that I wrote and mailed off multiple letters to Vikernes in prison, hoping to gain audience with my hero.That failed. Circumstances changed. I got into university, and promptly forgot all about establishing my own pure society. That is where my story ended, as does that of 98 per cent of young men and women drawn to extremist ideas.Unfortunately, this did not happen for Anders Behring Breivik whoopted to murder people in the name of his manifesto 2083-A European Declaration of Independence.Such is the strength of ideology on the mind of a young person at an unstable, sensitive juncture of his/her life. There is an immense appeal in fringe, extremist ideas for the simple solutions they offer to explain lifes baffling complexity.Why are things bad?Why am I unhappy?Because of religion, or a lack thereof. Because of race and skin colour. Because of capitalism and who owns the means of production.Who do I blame?Anyone and everyone but myself. If anyone disagrees with me, they are the enemy.What do I do?Preach extremism, separatism and hate, and if desperate enough kill.What Vikernes preached (and still does now that he has been released after serving a 16 year sentence) was a pseudo-scientific, folk-lore and history-based nationalism rooted in the most simplistic division of people based on race and culture. He preached a world of black and white, good and bad, heroes and villains, us versus them. He cherry picked problems in his society and presented simplistic explanations for them using half-clever critiques, strong rhetoric and a profound sense of superiority that masked the underlying insecurity of his position as an outcast (reminiscent of any local rock stars we know?).He essentially preached what any extremist ideology does; a nave, simplistic worldview that greatly appeals to a select few who are desperately searching for meaning in a world that makes no sense to them and who they are.This is the same form of ideology preached by Sayyid Qutb, an Egyptian author, and the leading intellectual of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood and al Qaeda. This is the same form (though a completely different set of ideas) of extremist ideology that suckered in Anders Behring Breivik and led to the murder of 93 people in Oslo.So to those who are heaving sighs of relief in finding out that Norways terrorist was not Muslim, please stop, as that is playing right into the narrative of us versus them. This is a bad sign of possibly worse to come. Playing the role of the celebratory other will only serve to create more Vikernes more Breiviks and (in a very real sense) steal your sons, daughters and friends away from you and place them closer to falling for such crazy ideologies, of which we have many of our own indigenous versions.Breiviks terrorist act is to be condemned. There should be no celebration of who he was or what he believed in, and may individuals and governments have the strength and wisdom to clamp down on such people and their equally dangerous philosophies, without alienating even more individuals. Perhaps more importantly, may we all have the wisdom to see and help those we love slipping away from us, caught up in a spell of ideas in a moment of weakness.Most importantly, may we all have the wisdom to look within ourselves, identify and eradicate or at least contain the extremism we all harbor in these trying times in our own country. We have 93 dead on a weekly basis, and far more desperate young men ready to believe in anything that may give their lives meaning in a crisis. That is what we should focus on after tragedies such as what happened in Norway.

http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/7183/black-metal-white-terrorists-and-what-norway-taught-me/
 
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امريکہ اوسلو اور يوٹويا جزيرے ميں حاليہ حملوں کی پرزور مذمت کرتا ہے۔ ہم اس غم کی گھڑی ميں ناروے کے عوام کے ساتھ ہيں اور زخمی اور ہلاک شدگان کے عزيز واقارب کے ساتھ اپنی دلی ہمدردی کا اظہار کرتے ہيں۔

فورمز پر کچھ راۓ دہندگان کی راۓ کے برخلاف امريکی حکومت معصوموں کے خلاف ہر قسم کے تشدد کی مذمت کرتی ہے، اس بات سے قطع نظر کہ يہ واقعات کہاں پيش آتے ہيں يا ان جرائم کے مرتکب افراد اپنے اقدامات کی وضاحت کے ليے کسی قسم کی مذہبی يا سياسی توجيہہ کا سہارا ليتے ہیں۔ہمارا موقف ہميشہ يہی رہا ہے کہ دہشت گرد سياسی اور مذہبی سوچ کی نمايندگی نہيں کرتے۔ يہ محض مجرم ہيں اور دہشت گردی کا عمل جرم ہے۔ دہشت گردی کو قابل قبول انتقام، ردعمل يا کسی سياسی عمل سے متعلق جدوجہد سے تعبير نہيں کيا جانا چاہیے۔

ناروے ميں دہشت گردی کے اس المناک واقعے سے يہ حقيقت بھی واضح ہو گئ ہے کہ دہشت گردی ايک عالمی مسلہ ہے جو کسی ايک ملک يا خطے تک محدود نہيں ہے۔ يہ واقعہ ان افراد کی آنکھيں بھی کھول دے گا جن کے مطابق دہشت گردی کے خلاف جنگ محض امريکہ کی ذاتی جنگ ہے۔ وقت کی اہم ضرورت يہی ہے کہ عالمی سطح پر دہشت گردی کے ذريعے معاشرے پر اپنا سياسی اور مذہبی اثر ورسوخ بڑھانے کے فلسفے کو شکست دی جاۓ۔

دہشت گردوں کا مذہب سے کوئ تعلق نہيں ہے۔ دہشت گرد محض جذبات کو بھڑکانے اور اپنے غير انسانی فعل کو درست ثابت کرنے کے لیے مذہبی نعروں کا سہارا ليتے ہيں۔ بے گناہ انسانوں کی جانوں کا ضياع ان کے مذہب سے قطع نظرانتہاہی قابل مذمت فعل ہے۔ يہ درس تو خود اسلام سميت دنيا کے تمام مذاہب ميں موجود ہے۔

صدر اوبامہ نے بھی ناروے کے عوام سے اپنی ذاتی تعزيت کا اظہار کيا اور يہ واضح کيا کہ اوسلو ميں دہشت گرد حملے اس امر کی ياد دہانی ہے کہ مستقبل ميں ايسے حملوں کی روک تھام کے ليے پوری دنيا کو مل کر کام کرنے کی ضرورت ہے

"ميں ناروے کے عوام سے ذاتی طور پر تعزيت کرتا ہوں اور يہ ياد دہانی ہے کہ پوری عالمی برادری کے لیے اس قسم کی دہشت گردی کی روک تھام ان کے باہم مفاد ميں ہے۔ اس کے علاوہ ہميں اينٹيلی جينس اور اس قسم کے ہولناک حملوں کو روکنے کے لیے ايک دوسرے کے ساتھ مل کر باہم تعاون کے ساتھ کام کرنا ہو گا"

امريکی حکومت، عالمی برادری کے ساتھ مل کر تشدد کے سدباب کے ليے کام کرتی رہے گی جو ہر جگہ امن کے دلدادہ افراد کے ليے خطرہ ہے۔

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Lodhi

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Glad that some one representing US State department came forward on the page to express their views and condemning this act of terror. Terror has no faith so I hope in future any act of terroism by from a peroson or group belongs to any faith will not be blamed on faith specially Islam.
The Quran says about the prohibition of murder, Take not life, which Allah hath made sacred, except by way of justice and law: thus does He command you, that ye may learn wisdom. (al-Anam 6:151) and Allah says in the Quran, Nor take life - which Allah has made sacred - except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, We have given his heir authority (to demand Qisas or to forgive): but let him not exceed bounds in the matter of taking life; for he is helped (by the law) (al-Isra 17:33). According to the Quran, killing any person without a just cause is as big a sin as killing the whole humanity and saving the life of one person is as good deed as saving the whole humanity. (See al-Maidah 5:32)
 
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gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Dear Authority on the Norwegian Affairs

First of all the number of Norwegian troops are just 500 and not 5000 as I blame the typing error for that . . . . However they are providing rescue and maintenance services to a force which is murdering Afghanis on daily basis therefore blame for the bloodshed relies on them too . . . .

Now for your Six to Four aircraft theory . . . . Are they participating in bombings or not and the answer is yes . . . . And should the Norwegian Aircrafts bombarding the Libyan Civilians with Bread, Cakes and Buns that we should be proud of that . . . .

And for their efforts for the Palestinian Cause . . . . I praise them for that and even say that, for a 1 in 100 chance may be the Israeli Intelligence may be involved in this act to destabilize the current regime, whose policies are much different than the previous fanatic Mr. Rassmussen . . . . As a single person cant do so much carnage . . . .

However, I cant justify Norwegian bad deeds for the good they are doing . . . .That is support to International terrorist USA in Afghanistan and Iraq . . . .

the only thing awan4never has any authority on is his own idiocy. he is mentally disturbed total anti-Pak.

Thats why i have him in iggy which annoys him as well (bigsmile)
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Fawad Digital Outreach Team US State Department

امريکہ اوسلو اور يوٹويا جزيرے ميں حاليہ حملوں کی پرزور مذمت کرتا ہے۔ ہم اس غم کی گھڑی ميں ناروے کے عوام کے ساتھ ہيں اور زخمی اور ہلاک شدگان کے عزيز واقارب کے ساتھ اپنی دلی ہمدردی کا اظہار کرتے ہيں۔

فورمز پر کچھ راۓ دہندگان کی راۓ کے برخلاف امريکی حکومت معصوموں کے خلاف ہر قسم کے تشدد کی مذمت کرتی ہے، اس بات سے قطع نظر کہ يہ واقعات کہاں پيش آتے ہيں يا ان جرائم کے مرتکب افراد اپنے اقدامات کی وضاحت کے ليے کسی قسم کی مذہبی يا سياسی توجيہہ کا سہارا ليتے ہیں۔ہمارا موقف ہميشہ يہی رہا ہے کہ دہشت گرد سياسی اور مذہبی سوچ کی نمايندگی نہيں کرتے۔ يہ محض مجرم ہيں اور دہشت گردی کا عمل جرم ہے۔ دہشت گردی کو قابل قبول انتقام، ردعمل يا کسی سياسی عمل سے متعلق جدوجہد سے تعبير نہيں کيا جانا چاہیے۔

ناروے ميں دہشت گردی کے اس المناک واقعے سے يہ حقيقت بھی واضح ہو گئ ہے کہ دہشت گردی ايک عالمی مسلہ ہے جو کسی ايک ملک يا خطے تک محدود نہيں ہے۔ يہ واقعہ ان افراد کی آنکھيں بھی کھول دے گا جن کے مطابق دہشت گردی کے خلاف جنگ محض امريکہ کی ذاتی جنگ ہے۔ وقت کی اہم ضرورت يہی ہے کہ عالمی سطح پر دہشت گردی کے ذريعے معاشرے پر اپنا سياسی اور مذہبی اثر ورسوخ بڑھانے کے فلسفے کو شکست دی جاۓ۔

دہشت گردوں کا مذہب سے کوئ تعلق نہيں ہے۔ دہشت گرد محض جذبات کو بھڑکانے اور اپنے غير انسانی فعل کو درست ثابت کرنے کے لیے مذہبی نعروں کا سہارا ليتے ہيں۔ بے گناہ انسانوں کی جانوں کا ضياع ان کے مذہب سے قطع نظرانتہاہی قابل مذمت فعل ہے۔ يہ درس تو خود اسلام سميت دنيا کے تمام مذاہب ميں موجود ہے۔

صدر اوبامہ نے بھی ناروے کے عوام سے اپنی ذاتی تعزيت کا اظہار کيا اور يہ واضح کيا کہ اوسلو ميں دہشت گرد حملے اس امر کی ياد دہانی ہے کہ مستقبل ميں ايسے حملوں کی روک تھام کے ليے پوری دنيا کو مل کر کام کرنے کی ضرورت ہے

"ميں ناروے کے عوام سے ذاتی طور پر تعزيت کرتا ہوں اور يہ ياد دہانی ہے کہ پوری عالمی برادری کے لیے اس قسم کی دہشت گردی کی روک تھام ان کے باہم مفاد ميں ہے۔ اس کے علاوہ ہميں اينٹيلی جينس اور اس قسم کے ہولناک حملوں کو روکنے کے لیے ايک دوسرے کے ساتھ مل کر باہم تعاون کے ساتھ کام کرنا ہو گا"

امريکی حکومت، عالمی برادری کے ساتھ مل کر تشدد کے سدباب کے ليے کام کرتی رہے گی جو ہر جگہ امن کے دلدادہ افراد کے ليے خطرہ ہے۔

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لکھنے کو بہت کچھ ہے لیکن آپ کی اس ریا کاری کا جواب دینا محظ وقت کا ضیاء ہو گا
جب کسی گورے ملک میں قتل و غارت ہوتی ہے تو سب مجاہدین صلیبی اکٹھا ہو کرواویلا مچا تے ہیں اور ہاے ہاے کرتے ہیں - جب بے قصور مسلمانون کا خون زمین پر گرتا ہے ان صلیبی مجاہدین کے کانوں پر جوں بھی نہیں رینگتی - بلکہ تف تو یہ کچھ کو تمغہ جات بھی دیا جاتا ہے
کیا آپ درج ذیل کی بھی مذمت
کرنا پسند فرمائینگے ؟

عراق پر غیر ضروری اور نا جائز حملہ جس مکمل تباہی واقعے ہوئی
ڈاکٹر عافیہ آپکے اہلکاروں کا شدید تشدد
لاکھوں افغانیوں کا قتل ام ارو بے گھر کرنا
پاکستان کو اندرونی طور پر کھوکھلا کر دینا
خود کش حملوں کی ٹریننگ دے کر بچوں بم اڑانے کے لیے بھیجنا
وغیرہ وغیرہ


 

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
the only thing awan4never has any authority on is his own idiocy. he is mentally disturbed total anti-Pak.

Thats why i have him in iggy which annoys him as well (bigsmile)

Yes. Im mentally disturbed while you living in Canada, and talking about setting up a party on the internet in Pakistan and telling people to sacrifice themselves for Pakistan are totally sane.

Lame jackass SOB!

(grow a pair of balls and answer people instead of running away from criticism and tough question by invoking the 'trash bin' you dimwitted coward!)
 
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