Defense budget increased by 11.4% , and Education budget cut!

M_Adnan.L

Councller (250+ posts)
Increased defence budget, for whom (DHAs?), and for defence against whom?

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Do our Armed forces who have proved their incompetence need 11.4% increase in budget?
Education has always suffered in Pakistan! Pakistan's problems will be solved not with guns but with bright minds
 
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Brave Heart

Voter (50+ posts)
Do our Armed forces who have proved their incompetence need 11.4% increase in budget?
Education has always suffered in Pakistan! Pakistan's problems will be solved not with guns but with bright minds

As Usual , your post is against Armed forces. Yaar kabhi to army ko maaf kar diya karo


Reply me,
Is this budget is made and announced by Army? how u can blame army on this budget?
 

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

As Usual , your post is against Armed forces. Yaar kabhi to army ko maaf kar diya karo


Reply me,
Is this budget is made and announced by Army? how u can blame army on this budget?

If you knew how budgeting works you wouldnt have asked that. (Maybe you still would have since you refuse to hold the Army accountable no matter what)

The budget is made keeping in mind the input and requirements sent by the concerned department requesting funds.

The Army runs this country behind the scenes so they get what they want. Screw education because educated people raise eyebrows and ask for accountability. Its better people stay downtrodden and illiterate. That ensures unquestioned cash flows for building Askari apartments and villas and Jacaranda clubs and Palm Golf resorts.
 

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
http://tribune.com.pk/story/182147/budget-2010-2011-defence-spending-up-by-12/

ISLAMABAD:
Pakistan has matched India’s increase in defence spending, jacking up its defence budget by nearly 12 per cent for the next fiscal year amid renewed US pressure for a full-scale military operation in the North Waziristan tribal agency.
Defence allocation has been increased to Rs495.2 billion for 2011-12, compared to last year’s Rs444.2 billion. Interestingly, India had also raised its defence expenditure by 12 per cent in February this year, though the size of their budget is much bigger than Pakistan’s.
Citing resource constraints, the government, however, refused to accept the original request by the military establishment which had sought an 18 per cent increase, or Rs524 billion, for defence expenditure. According to the budget document, of the total Rs495.2 billion, Rs206.4 billion has been allocated for employee-related expenses, Rs128.2 billion for operating expenses and Rs117.5 billion has been set aside for physical assets.
The figures, however, do not include over Rs73 billion allocated for pensions of military personnel that would be paid from the civilian budget and a separate allocation for security-related expenses in a move, which critics say, seeks to conceal the actual defence budget.
Calls have been made for greater scrutiny of the defence spending since the May 2 Abbottabad episode that embarrassed the military establishment over their ignorance of Osama bin Laden’s presence in Pakistan and the US operation.
The defence budget has never been debated in detail in parliament. “Parliament should critically review defence allocation in the budget,” said Bushra Gohar, lawmaker from the Awami Nation Party, a coalition partner in the government.
The main opposition party, the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N), has also questioned the increase in defence spending. “In the long run, it’s a recipe for disaster,” said PML-N’s Information Secretary Ahsan Iqbal. “Investing in education is the only way to ensure security,” he added.

However, military officials tried to play down the increase in defence expenditure, arguing that additional funds have been sought to meet expenses of troops’ deployments in restive areas, ration expenses and to offset the impact of the depreciation of rupee against dollar and double-digit inflation.
In his budget speech, Finance Minister Abdul Hafeez Shaikh briefly commented on the increase in defence spending, saying that the current security situation warranted the hike.
And it is not just the human cost. The battle against militancy has cost Pakistan $68 billion in the same period. Interestingly, while the US has just provided over $13 billion to Pakistan over the last 10 years, the losses in 2010-11 alone were recorded to be $17.9 billion.
Published in The Express Tribune, June 4th, 2011.
 

Humble Pakistani

Councller (250+ posts)
The state of affairs in Pakistan is pathetic... The illiterates are running this country... And they would like the whole country to remain illiterate. Pakistan can only be saved if education is given priority and every Pakistan child is given a chance to acquire knowledge… Protect Pakistan and vote in people who are educated and honest and have not stashed looted money in a foreign bank overseas.
 

Brave Heart

Voter (50+ posts)
If you knew how budgeting works you wouldnt have asked that. (Maybe you still would have since you refuse to hold the Army accountable no matter what)

The budget is made keeping in mind the input and requirements sent by the concerned department requesting funds.

The Army runs this country behind the scenes so they get what they want. Screw education because educated people raise eyebrows and ask for accountability. Its better people stay downtrodden and illiterate. That ensures unquestioned cash flows for building Askari apartments and villas and Jacaranda clubs and Palm Golf resorts.

Moderators should not allow anti-Pakistan threads. they should add a clause in terms & conditions of New registration. there shouldn't be an easy access for traitors and hate spreading propaganda specialist against our country. Moderators should issue warning immediately to these traitors & maroons whose sole purpose is to degrade, defame and do poisonous propaganda against Pakistan and Pak Army & ISI.

Moderators plz get up from sleep & ban these IDs.
 

digitalzygot

Senator (1k+ posts)
I am in huge favour of spending money on education, we need to spend more on RESEARCH but at the same time we have to keep in mind our goals and needs, INDIA is doing huge increase in defence, we just can't ignore that, we face a snake with many heads, it's absolutely imperative that we maintain and Upgrade our defence forces. I am in favour of reducing army size, strengthening our navy and airforce, more spending on surface to air, ground to ground, missile shields, combat air crafts, have a small but lethal army,this way we can save money plus make sure no one dares to f**k with us.
 

sam123

Banned
We really dont need to spend money on defense...i was going through some vidoes on india -pakistan war..and i came to know that ,it was we who attacked india..
1.so lets stop being aggressor
2.cut defense budget and spend more money on education
3.We have 100-110 atom bombs...so india wont dare to attack us...

i copied a comment from tribune.com.pk
ISI/Military is in a mad rush to compete with India. We must match 12% as India. They forget the fact that our military budget is 5 billion dollars, while India’s 33 billion dollars. Indian economy is 12 times our size and growing 4 times faster. Our inflation is 15% while india’s 7%. Our tax to GDP is 8% while India’s 20%. We generate total 19,000 MW power, while India added 18,000 MW in 2010 alone. These military/ISI wishlist for toys has destroyed our country. Shame on us..



http://tribune.com.pk/story/182147/budget-2010-2011-defence-spending-up-by-12/
ISLAMABAD:
Pakistan has matched India’s increase in defence spending, jacking up its defence budget by nearly 12 per cent for the next fiscal year amid renewed US pressure for a full-scale military operation in the North Waziristan tribal agency.
Defence allocation has been increased to Rs495.2 billion for 2011-12, compared to last year’s Rs444.2 billion. Interestingly, India had also raised its defence expenditure by 12 per cent in February this year, though the size of their budget is much bigger than Pakistan’s.
 
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awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Moderators should not allow anti-Pakistan threads. they should add a clause in terms & conditions of New registration. there shouldn't be an easy access for traitors and hate spreading propaganda specialist against our country. Moderators should issue warning immediately to these traitors & maroons whose sole purpose is to degrade, defame and do poisonous propaganda against Pakistan and Pak Army & ISI.

Moderators plz get up from sleep & ban these IDs.

They should only allow zaid hamid videos and quotes here. Infact rename the forum to ZH.pk! :p
 

rakeem

Senator (1k+ posts)
No surprise, Pakistan can afford another generation beggars and looters, Pakistan always had children with no access to education, but can't cut General's pension, he might die tomorrow, but the money surely is being well spent.