Davis case: updates thread

[simple_and_peacefull]

Govt finalises strategy to give immunity to Davis

Updated at 1110 PST Wednesday, February 16, 2011

By Mazhar Tufail
ISLAMABAD: The federal government has finalised its strategy to grant diplomatic immunity to Raymond Davis, an American national currently under detention for alleged double murder in Lahore in broad daylight on January 27, it was learnt here on Tuesday.

As word official is mentioned in the visa stamped on the passport held by Raymond Davis and when the court will question the federal government about the status of the American national, the Attorney General will appear before the court to certify on behalf of the federal government that Davis had reached Pakistan on official visa and he enjoys diplomatic immunity, an official source told The News, requesting anonymity.

The source disclosed that various legal eagles are busy in consultations in the Ministry of Law to sort out this thorny issue so that if some important legal points are raised when the government submits a certificate of diplomatic immunity to Davis in the court, the legal experts can prove through arguments that diplomatic immunity was being granted to the American national without any pressure.

The federal government is currently under immense pressure with regard to the Davis case. It is now being whispered in the Foreign Office that the case being in the court, now all responsibility is on the shoulders of the federal government, particularly the Ministry of Law, said the source.

It is widely believed now in the Foreign Office that only the Ministry of Law is competent now to comment on the case and to formally announce the governments decision about grant of immunity to Davis or otherwise, he added.

This correspondent made several attempts for comments of the Law Ministry but no response was received. One senior official, however, confirmed on condition of anonymity that consultations are currently going on in the ministry on the Davis case. But the official avoided further comments, saying the Law Ministry is making efforts to prepare a response to any court query keeping in view all the national and international laws. Therefore, it is premature to say on which legal points the issue will be resolved, he added.

Meanwhile, some Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) leaders close to the power corridors told The News requesting anonymity that the government is very nervous these days as it has never been in the past three years of its tenure. They said there is an immense pressure on the PPP from the US.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/NewsDetail.aspx?ID=11230

 

[simple_and_peacefull]

Re: Govt finalises strategy to give immunity to Davis

Davis doesn't enjoy blanket immunity: Qureshi
Updated at 1240 PST Wednesday, February 16, 2011

ISLAMABAD: Former foreign minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi said the US employee Raymond Davis doesn't enjoy blanket immunity as sought by the US, Geo News reported.

He was addressing the media after meeting with the US Senator John Kerry. Qureshi said the meeting was arranged on the senator's request. Senator Kerry was a friend of Pakistan, he opined.

'Pakistan and America need each other's help.' The issue of killing two Pakistani citizens in Lahore in broad daylight by a US embassy employee has become a matter of national respect, he added.

Qureshi said that I was instructed to stay quit on the burning issue.

Addressing the press conference, former minister said the foreign office had briefed him on January 31st that the blanket immunity that the US was demanding for Raymond Davis could not be provided

 

[simple_and_peacefull]

Re: Govt finalises strategy to give immunity to Davis

US guidelines support Pakistan case
Updated at 1100 PST Wednesday, February 16, 2011

By Ansar Abbasi
ISLAMABAD: While Washington is putting tons of pressure on Islamabad to let Raymond Davis go under the cover of diplomatic immunity, the latest State Department guidelines on giving such immunity to diplomats of other countries within the US are eye-opening.

“If the US guidelines were followed and had the Davis case happened in any place within the US, Davis would have been treated exactly the same way he is being treated in Pakistan,” an expert who knows immunity procedures in both the countries observed.

The State Department has only recently issued directions to law enforcement and judicial authorities “not to let any criminal go in the garb of diplomatic immunity without police investigation and court order”.

“It is the policy of the US Department of State with respect to alleged criminal violations by persons with immunity from criminal jurisdiction to encourage law enforcement authorities to pursue investigations vigorously, to prepare cases carefully and completely, and to document properly each incident so that charges may be pursued as far as possible in the US judicial system,” Diplomatic and Consular Immunity Guidance for Law Enforcement and Judicial Authorities of the State Department, released in September 2010, says.

While Pakistan is being told that Davis had a licence to kill under the disputed immunity that he supposedly enjoys, the State Department guidelines say: “It should be emphasized that even at its highest level, diplomatic immunity does not exempt diplomatic officers from the obligation of conforming with national and local laws and regulations. Diplomatic immunity is not intended to serve as a licence for persons to flout the law and purposely avoid liability for their actions.”

These guidelines go on: “The purpose of these privileges and immunities is not to benefit individuals but to ensure the efficient and effective performance of their official missions on behalf of their governments. This is a crucial point for law enforcement officers to understand in their dealings with foreign diplomatic and consular personnel. While police officers are obliged, under international customary and treaty law, to recognize the immunity of the envoy, they must not ignore or condone the commission of crimes.”

While the US authorities and the murderer himself had admitted that he (Davis) was a member of Lahore Consulate, the US guidelines solve the riddle, for those who are still confused, by saying, “There is a common misunderstanding that consular personnel have diplomatic status and are entitled to diplomatic immunity.”

Regarding the identification of the diplomat, enjoying immunity, the State Department guidelines say, “IT IS CRITICAL FOR A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER to identify quickly and accurately the status of any person asserting immunity. The only authoritative identity document is the identity card issued by the US Department of State’s Office of Protocol...”

The same is the provision in Pakistan where the Foreign Office issues identity card to such diplomats. In case of Davis, it was never issued.

In such cases, the US State Department clearly states: “In all cases, including those in which the individual provides a US Department of State-issued identification card, the law enforcement officer should verify the immunity status with the US Department of State....”

Regarding the waiver of immunity, these guidelines say: “Diplomatic and consular immunity are not intended to benefit the individual; they are intended to benefit the mission of the foreign government or international organization. Thus an individual does not ‘own’ his or her immunity and it may be waived, in whole or in part, by the mission member’s government. The US Department of State will request a waiver of immunity in every case in which the prosecutor advises that he or she would prosecute but for immunity.”

 

[simple_and_peacefull]

Re: Govt finalises strategy to give immunity to Davis

It’s not a rumour, Americans did get Qureshi’s scalp

http://thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=3939&Cat=13&dt=2%2F12%2F2011


By Mohammad Malick
Saturday, February 12, 2011

ISLAMABAD: When powerful men meet to discuss explosive issues, things can change in a big way. And that is precisely what happened after a highly secretive and immensely important meeting at the Presidency a few days back. The subject, not unexpectedly, being the fate of American killer Raymond Davis and that of Pakistan-US relations. Little did anyone know at the time that the huddle would instead end up deciding the fate of Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi.

The meeting, convened by the president was attended by Prime Minister Gilani, Babar Awan, Rehman Malik, Shah Mehmood Qureshi and the DG ISI Gen Shuja Pasha. The president was given an exhaustive overview of the entire situation but quite early in the meeting it became evident that two of the men were standing on the wrong side of the prevalent dominant wisdom and desire of somehow finding a way to retrospectively cough up diplomatic immunity for Davis and to just wish away all the four deaths and the lingering crisis. But since one of the ‘erring’ two dared not be arbitrarily fired, poor Qureshi’s fate stood sealed.

Extreme pressure was exerted in the meeting on the former foreign minister to renege from his earlier stance and simply tell the court that the Foreign Office was in consonance with the American interpretation of Davis being a genuine diplomat and enjoying full immunity under Vienna Convention 1961. Facts be damned. According to highly reliable sources, interior ministry’s immense resources were also offered to cause any necessary change of documentation or any exceptional service warranted under these exceptional circumstances.

An adamant Qureshi, who had strongly argued the case that Raymond did not enjoy unlimited diplomatic immunity under law, flatly refused and even said that if need be, he’d rather resign than become an accessory to multiple murder. The meeting ended on a rather unsavoury and unexpected note. It was a surprising outcome for all the others because Qureshi had always been perceived, and even pilloried by the media, as being an American lackey and was not expected to dig in his heels over an issue so vital for the US administration.

But Qureshi’s latest run in with the Americans did not begin or end inside the Presidency. It had actually begun much earlier on January 28, a day after the deadly Raymond Davis incident in Lahore. He was in Karachi when he first received a call from US Ambassador to Pakistan, Cameron Munter and then had a conversation with US Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton. Munter requested him for immediate councillor access to Davis and his immediate handover to US Consulate authorities. Qureshi asked Foreign Secretary Salman Bashir to talk to Munter and while authorising immediate councillor access to Davis made it clear to the foreign secretary that the matter of release would only be decided by the court as the legal process had already been kicked into motion in Punjab. Then came Hillary’s call.

An understandably perturbed Hillary wanted the immediate handover of Davis and insisted that Pakistan was violating the Vienna Convention by the illegal incarceration of a “US diplomat”. Confirming the contents of that conversation to The News, Shah Mehmood said that he had patiently explained to Hillary that while he understood her anxiety she too had to understand the highly emotive and sensitive nature of the incident. And also that since the judicial process had been kick-started in Lahore, the Foreign Office and the US had little option but to submit to the due process of law. Anyway, the two decided to discuss the matter on the sidelines of the then forthcoming Munich Security Conference, and the line went silent.

Since then, Ambassador Munter and other senior embassy officials remained busy with engaging Pakistani authorities and the Foreign Office, blowing hot or cold, depending upon the level of their own frustration and the pressure coming their way from Washington. A few days prior to the Munich Conference, Qureshi received a call from Ambassador Munter who said that he had been directed to convey the message that unless Qureshi signed the diplomatic immunity paper prior to the conference, the scheduled meeting between him and Hillary would stand cancelled. The message was starkly clear a la George Bush: You are either with us or against us. So be it, Qureshi is reported to have told the ambassador and even cancelled his trip altogether. The chief of the army staff went instead to Munich and that is an appointment that even the US secretary of state cannot cancel, Davis or no Davis.

Once Qureshi ignored the latest Hillary communique, the Americans stopped talking to him altogether because it had now become evident that Qureshi was not going to budge on his stance of Davis not being eligible for full diplomatic immunity. Qureshi was no longer a welcome dinner guest and neither could he be allowed to remain in office. The last thing Washington can afford is his having a Pakistani foreign minister with a reawakened conscience.

According to highly reliable sources, the next claimed scalp may be that of the equally intransigent (from American perspective), Foreign Secretary Salman Bashir who is now the only remaining top level hurdle in the apprehended shameless handover of Davis by a compromised political leadership. The foreign secretary is also of the considered firm view that Davis does not qualify for full immunity. And there are legitimate causes for this argument, which were further exposed by glaring inconsistencies in the forever changing US stance on the issue.

Owing to the paucity of space, irrefutable arguments proving Davis’ ineligibility are not being reproduced here and also because a lot has already been written on the legal aspects of the subject, including the highlighted fact that in the initial reaction by US authorities, Raymond Davis was identified as merely an “employee” of the US Consulate in Lahore, but never as a diplomat. He was referred to as an employee and not a consulate general official. “It was a simple clerical error” was the incredulous justification offered by two senior members of the Islamabad embassy in an off-the-record conversation with the scribe. But it gets even better.

A lot is being made by the Americans and their interlocutors of the January 20, 2010 communication of the Islamabad embassy wherein the FO had been asked for the issuance of a non-diplomatic identity card for Davis. It is being argued that this communication clearly identifies Raymond Davis as being administrative and technical staff of Islamabad embassy and therefore automatically eligible for diplomatic immunity. But this is only half the story.

Certain discrepancies in 2010 had already caused the Foreign Office to seek clarifications. In Sept 2009, the US State Department had originally identified him as technical advisor (contractor) going on “official business” while applying for his visa. Later he was attached to US Consulate Lahore as an employee. So when his name popped up again in January 2010, identifying him as being attached with the US Embassy Islamabad, the FO wanted answers to some very pertinent questions. The relevant FO officials repeatedly asked the US embassy to provide the details of Davis’ new responsibilities along with those of his past postings. When weeks had passed with the embassy avoiding a categorical clarification on this count, the FO finally sent a formal Note Verbale to the US embassy on July 8, 2010. It bore ref no: P(1-A)/2009-ID(USA). This note pertained to a total of ten Americans about whom similar details were being sought from the embassy but no response had been forthcoming from the US end. Davis was listed as Note No:252/HR. When FO authorities were asked about the presence of 2009 in the reference number of the note verbale otherwise sent on July 8, 2010, they clarified that it was perfectly in accordance with their internal filing sequence and did not reflect any anomaly.

Unable to cover this critical gap in their argument to secure Davis’ release on the afterthought alibi of diplomatic immunity, the US embassy has adopted the rather incredulous argument of denying outright the existence of this critical correspondence. The FO has been told at the highest level that the US embassy never received this Note Verbale. The two senior functionaries stuck to the denial mantra when asked by The News about the embassy’s refusal to divulge the real assignments and other details of Davis and nine others. They insisted that all the embassy records had been thoroughly checked but there was no evidence of the cited note verbale ever being received. When they were told that the July 8 note was present in FO records and its existence and its having been sent to US embassy was recorded in more than one place and constituted a process that could not be tampered with within hours of an event taking place, the duo took the reference number of the ‘missing note’ to ostensibly try locating it from their records. This raises an interesting question: if they still needed the reference number at this stage, then how did they even check their records earlier?

Can you name a single other incidence where prior to this particular note verbale or since, any note verbale sent by FO to the US embassy has ever gone missing? the two functionaries were asked. Not surprisingly, the duo could not cite a single such incidence.

Interesting coincidence one must say, where the entire US administration makes critical clerical errors which only expose Davis as being a non-diplomat. Another interesting coincidence again, when only one specific official communication out of hundreds of similar exchanges goes missing, and which once again stood to expose Raymond Davis for being anything but a legitimate diplomat on a legitimate diplomatic assignment.

 

[kashipk]

Re: Govt finalises strategy to give immunity to Davis

 

[PkRevolution]

Re: If Raymond Davis freed by Govt. then Damadam Mast Qalander on pakistani streets, move to US consulates.

John Kerry dictated Zardari and Gillani on Davis issue. Obama must take care of matters in USA. Highest Debt ever is not a small Problem. Chinese Yen will soon be the strongest currency. Are these small problems for Obama not to concentrate on it rather to dictate Pakistan that Raymond has immunity.

 

[alpha]

Re: Govt finalises strategy to give immunity to Davis

Love you Quereshi !!!! You ahve proved that you are a Ahl E Sadat pure, but this Gilani is a mix breed :)

 

[gazoomartian]

Re: Govt finalises strategy to give immunity to Davis

mud-dai sust gawah chust.

yeh haram khoron ko amrika sey itna dar hai, allah aur uskey rasool sey dar nahi.

yeh khud tayyari kar rahey hain qatil ko riha krney ki.

yeh chamchey ****** ki maut mareingey us inkey aqa Uncle Sam nahi hongey

 

[Bangash]

Re: Govt finalises strategy to give immunity to Davis

شاہ محمود قریشی صاحب زندہ باد- پاکستانی قوم کے دلوں میں اپ نے جگہ بنا دی.ریمنڈ ڈیوس کا مثلا تو تقریبن صا ف ہوا- باقی فیصلہ عدالت کا ہونا چاہیے. اس میں جس شخص کو گاڑی سے کچل دیا گیا ہے اس کے بارے میں کوئی کچھ نہیں بھول رہا. آخر اس کے عزیز و اقارب کو کون انصاف دے گا. کیا وہ پاکستانی نہیں تھا؟ ہمارے بے غیرت حکمران اس بارے میں بھی سوچ رہے ہیں یا نہیں؟​

 

[Khanji1]

Re: Govt finalises strategy to give immunity to Davis

Baighaiiiiirat bhi kehtay ho aur wo sochain bhi. Yeh bhala kesey mumkin hain. I liked Calling Yousaf Gillani a mixed breed.

 

[PkRevolution]

Re: Why only DAVIS?

These are two different Issues you are mixing. This has nothing to do with racism or hypocracy. An American spy is killing two people in Lahore and then asking for immunity which most probably he doesn't have and the other 4 US killers ran away to consulate and are still not handed over to Pakistan Police. Pictures found in Davis Camera in relation with bombings in Pakistan and tel calls to Waziristan are matters which Pakistanis can not ignore. Drone attacks and Balochistan Anarchy is also very differen Issue, people like Davis could also be back support of such attacks. Sialkot brothers case or street killings in pakistan are local Issues with pakistani nationals involvement.

How long Pakistan should live with beggar mentality? Do not mind Armani but we are on that position today because people like you are among us. Who's Iman's strength is US Dollar. Creat in yourself power and do not look forward for US aid.

Khudi ko kar buland itna ke her taqdir se pehley
Khuda bande se khud pooche bata teri raza kia he

 

[Geek]

Salary slip of raymond davis showing him to be a member of overseas security services

SALARY SLIP OF RAYMOND DAVIS SHOWING HIM TO BE A MEMBER OF OVERSEAS SECURITY SERVICES, A SUBSIDIARY OF STATE DEPARTMENT'S BUREAU OF DIPLOMATIC SECURITY.

 

[PakistaniKid]

Re: Salary slip of raymond davis showing him to be a member of overseas security services

what does it mean? can he escape by showing this salary slip?

 

[Adeel]

Re: Salary slip of raymond davis showing him to be a member of overseas security services

what does it mean? can he escape by showing this salary slip?

That means he isn't what he says he is. Therefore no immunity for him.

 

[US State Department]

Re: If Raymond Davis freed by Govt. then Damadam Mast Qalander on pakistani streets, move to US consulates.

Fawad Digital Outreach Team US State Department​

جيسا کہ ميں نے پہلے بھی واضح کيا تھا کہ جنوری 27 کو پيش آنے والے واقعات کے تسلسل کا محرک امريکی سفارت کار نہيں تھا۔ اس میں کوئ شک نہيں کہ اس روز انسانی زندگيوں کا ضياع ہوا۔ ہم اس پر افسوس کا اظہار بھی کرتے ہيں اور ان خاندانوں سے ہمدردی رکھتے ہیں جن کے عزيز ان سے جدا ہو گۓ۔ ليکن بنيادی حقيقت يہی ہے کہ دو مسلح افراد جو اس سے قبل وارداتوں ميں ملوث رہ چکے تھے، انھوں نے امريکی سفارت کار پر حملہ کيا۔ اس اقدام کے بعد جو کچھ بھی ہوا وہ کوئ طے شدہ منصوبہ ہرگز نہيں تھا بلکہ اپنی جان کے دفاع ميں کيا جانے والا اقدام تھا۔ جنوری 27 کو پيش آنے والے واقعات کی حتمی ذمہ داری انھی افراد پر عائد ہوتی ہے جنھوں نے امریکی سفارت کار پر انھيں نقصان پہنچانے کی نيت سے حملہ کيا۔​

اگر امريکی حکومت اس واقعے ميں ملوث اپنے سفارت کار کے ليے سفارتی استثنی کی درخواست کر رہی ہے تو اس کا يہ مطلب ہرگز نہيں ہے کہ ہم پاکستانی قوانين کو خاطر ميں نہيں لا رہے۔ ہم صرف اس حقيقت پر اصرار کر رہے ہيں کہ يہ معاملہ پاکستان ميں قانون نافذ کرنے والے اداروں کے دائرہ اختيار ميں نہيں آتا۔ اسی بات کا اظہار صدر اوبامہ نے بھی اپنے بيان ميں کيا تھا۔​

"يقينی طور پر ہميں انسانی جانوں کے ضياع پر تشويش ہے۔ ہم اس بارے ميں سردمہری کا مظاہرہ نہيں کر رہے ہيں۔ ليکن يہاں ايک بڑا اصول ہمارے سامنے ہے۔ ہمارا موقف بالکل واضح ہے کہ دنيا کا ہر وہ ملک جو سفارتی تعلقات کے حوالے سے ويانا کنوينشن کا حصہ ہے وہاں ماضی ميں بھی ان اصولوں کی پاسداری کی گئ ہے اور مستتقبل ميں بھی ايسا ہی ہونا چاہيے۔ اور وہ اصول يہ ہے کہ جب ہمارے سفارت کار دوسرے ممالک ميں ہوں تو ان ممالک ميں ان پر قانونی چارہ جوئ نہيں ہو سکتی۔" ​

فواد ڈيجيٹل آؤٹ ريچ ٹيم يو ايس اسٹيٹ ڈيپارٹمينٹ​

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[Star Gazer]

Re: Salary slip of raymond davis showing him to be a member of overseas security services

This is not an easy situation with the matter being subjudice, the government can not just have him slipped out of the country under a false pretext. I am suer the pressure of the people will be immense if not on the government atleast on the media and the judiciary.
What remains to be seen is what is more important for the peoples government, the demand of their own people or the demand of the other people.

 

[ourpakistan]

Re: If Raymond Davis freed by Govt. then Damadam Mast Qalander on pakistani streets, move to US consulates.

Damadam Mast Qalander on pakistani streets, indeed.

 

[ourpakistan]

Re: If Raymond Davis freed by Govt. then Damadam Mast Qalander on pakistani streets, move to US consulates.

Fawad – Digital Outreach Team – US State Department​

جيسا کہ ميں نے پہلے بھی واضح کيا تھا کہ جنوری 27 کو پيش آنے والے واقعات کے تسلسل کا محرک امريکی سفارت کار نہيں تھا۔ اس میں کوئ شک نہيں کہ اس روز انسانی زندگيوں کا ضياع ہوا۔ ہم اس پر افسوس کا اظہار بھی کرتے ہيں اور ان خاندانوں سے ہمدردی رکھتے ہیں جن کے عزيز ان سے جدا ہو گۓ۔ ليکن بنيادی حقيقت يہی ہے کہ دو مسلح افراد جو اس سے قبل وارداتوں ميں ملوث رہ چکے تھے، انھوں نے امريکی سفارت کار پر حملہ کيا۔ اس اقدام کے بعد جو کچھ بھی ہوا وہ کوئ طے شدہ منصوبہ ہرگز نہيں تھا بلکہ اپنی جان کے دفاع ميں کيا جانے والا اقدام تھا۔ جنوری 27 کو پيش آنے والے واقعات کی حتمی ذمہ داری انھی افراد پر عائد ہوتی ہے جنھوں نے امریکی سفارت کار پر انھيں نقصان پہنچانے کی نيت سے حملہ کيا۔


اگر امريکی حکومت اس واقعے ميں ملوث اپنے سفارت کار کے ليے سفارتی استثنی کی درخواست کر رہی ہے تو اس کا يہ مطلب ہرگز نہيں ہے کہ ہم پاکستانی قوانين کو خاطر ميں نہيں لا رہے۔ ہم صرف اس حقيقت پر اصرار کر رہے ہيں کہ يہ معاملہ پاکستان ميں قانون نافذ کرنے والے اداروں کے دائرہ اختيار ميں نہيں آتا۔ اسی بات کا اظہار صدر اوبامہ نے بھی اپنے بيان ميں کيا تھا۔


"يقينی طور پر ہميں انسانی جانوں کے ضياع پر تشويش ہے۔ ہم اس بارے ميں سردمہری کا مظاہرہ نہيں کر رہے ہيں۔ ليکن يہاں ايک بڑا اصول ہمارے سامنے ہے۔ ہمارا موقف بالکل واضح ہے کہ دنيا کا ہر وہ ملک جو سفارتی تعلقات کے حوالے سے ويانا کنوينشن کا حصہ ہے وہاں ماضی ميں بھی ان اصولوں کی پاسداری کی گئ ہے اور مستتقبل ميں بھی ايسا ہی ہونا چاہيے۔ اور وہ اصول يہ ہے کہ جب ہمارے سفارت کار دوسرے ممالک ميں ہوں تو ان ممالک ميں ان پر قانونی چارہ جوئ نہيں ہو سکتی۔"



فواد – ڈيجيٹل آؤٹ ريچ ٹيم – يو ايس اسٹيٹ ڈيپارٹمينٹ


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What you are talking about is that Pakistan and USA signed a law to give protection to diplomate with special visa and status in visiting country, which "this terrorist" does not have. There are laws and process to follow in any visiting country that diplomate has to follow, and they are not allowed to have guns and other tech equipments with them and are not licensed to kill people. There is still law and no one is above the law and I am sure that if this was to happen in USA, there would be no immunity for a terrorist. Since we have war on terror going on and we are allied country, and this was a terrorist activity, can you answer few Qs, please. Thanks

1. To this day there is no evidence to show the entire world, what his visa status was, and what type of work he was doing in Pakistan?
2. Why he killed 2 people and 1 other got killed by his friends, and does the visa he got allow that to happen in any country in the world?
3. Where did he get the visa from?
4. If he had special diplomate visa, why did not he call the police and other security agencies to give him protection or tell where he is going with all that money, gps, wireless sets, camera, and runaway car with fake license number plate etc.
5. What is his real name, why everything is fake?
6. Why should he be allowed to go home free after killing people and does USA allow that in USA?

There are more Qs, but this should be enough for now.

 

[No2liberalExtermists]

Re: Salary slip of raymond davis showing him to be a member of overseas security services

This does not prove anything. Also, the authenticity of this salary slip is doubt ful. There are no signatures no official stamps. Even I can type some like this on my old typewriter. Clearly a case is being built up by the government and pro government media to let Davis free. Maybe the relatives of the killed will be given some compensation. Maybe they'll be enticed to green card and job in US so as to pardon Davis.

 

[prabhumust]

Re: If Raymond Davis freed by Govt. then Damadam Mast Qalander on pakistani streets, move to US consulates.

brother viana convention protect all of the crimes of all of nature
please think neutrally
and USA money to pak more important for poor pakistanies then one men
thankyou

What you are talking about is that Pakistan and USA signed a law to give protection to diplomate with special visa and status in visiting country, which "this terrorist" does not have. There are laws and process to follow in any visiting country that diplomate has to follow, and they are not allowed to have guns and other tech equipments with them and are not licensed to kill people. There is still law and no one is above the law and I am sure that if this was to happen in USA, there would be no immunity for a terrorist. Since we have war on terror going on and we are allied country, and this was a terrorist activity, can you answer few Qs, please. Thanks

1. To this day there is no evidence to show the entire world, what his visa status was, and what type of work he was doing in Pakistan?
2. Why he killed 2 people and 1 other got killed by his friends, and does the visa he got allow that to happen in any country in the world?
3. Where did he get the visa from?
4. If he had special diplomate visa, why did not he call the police and other security agencies to give him protection or tell where he is going with all that money, gps, wireless sets, camera, and runaway car with fake license number plate etc.
5. What is his real name, why everything is fake?
6. Why should he be allowed to go home free after killing people and does USA allow that in USA?

There are more Qs, but this should be enough for now.