China agrees to control Gwadar Port.

[No2liberalExtermists]

Re: China has accepted Pakistani request to take control of Gwadar Port

Zaid Hamid mentioned Ghazwa e Hind in his talks. He is not a scholar by any definition of the word scholar. He has been spreading confusion and false ideas. According to people of knowledge like Dr. Israr Ghazwa e Hind was when Mohammad bin Qassim came to India.

 

[GeoG]

Re: China has accepted Pakistani request to take control of Gwadar Port

We wont mind investin in rich minerals balochistan!Baloch people will trust us more than cunning chinese who will loot their money!!

China govt is known for seliing weapons to all rebel groups!!They follow divide and conquer approach ;meanwhile they suck all the minerals !!


i heard balochistan minerals are worth 1000 +billion $..why not have investment treaty with balochistan state govt !!

i met a baloch guy here in west and he had a deep respect for india!!similarly i met a karachi guy and he was all the time talking about his maternal family in india :)

SO i think india should deal with sindh and Balochistan govt ,since they are friendly to us!!we should invest in balochistan .Since We need to counter china !!
so its time we have good relations with these provincial governments!!

Did you not meet a Kashmiri who would have spat on your face

 

[crankthskunk]

Re: China has accepted Pakistani request to take control of Gwadar Port

Can you please give a date when USA is leaving Af-pak, so that we can start counting from that date
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"Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." Thomas Mann

For this reason only we are telling not to tolerate the so called non-state actors.

You should know when the Yanks are leaving, you are sucking up to them in Afghanistan. As much as I know Obama said the withdrawal would start in July. Now go and find out the schedule from the USA.

Do you doubt that Taliban would be back in power in Afghanistan? USA is talking to them directly, if you believe the yanks.

Are you really dreaming that after USA either completely withdrawn or drawn down, you would be able to stay in Afghanistan?

Who is going to provide you protection? Karzai! who can not even get out of his compound? Or you think you are even bigger super power than USA and USSR that you can fight with the Taliban and prevail in Afghanistan? [hilar]

Go on announce that Indian can stay after USA without their support and Karzai would provide the protection or you are strong enough to fight against the Taliban. :lol::lol:

Yes, tolerance becomes a crime, when we start tolerating Hindu and Zionists evil in the world. Your number is next, deny if you can, but that is coming no matter what, if we can defeat USSR and USA you are nothing, absolutely nothing at all.:P

 

[desicad]

Re: China has accepted Pakistani request to take control of Gwadar Port

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-------------------- Your number is next, deny if you can, but that is coming no matter what, if we can defeat USSR and USA you are nothing, absolutely nothing at all.:P

Can you please clarify who is 'we' here?

 

[terex]

Re: China has accepted Pakistani request to take control of Gwadar Port

Did you not meet a Kashmiri who would have spat on your face

I know about 5-6 kashmiri indian friends and none of them support separatists !!They are rational people and they blame india and pakistan both for the mess!!
Moreover they still feel that india is a soft country and with passage of time kashmir will accept india!!

Kashmiris are pretty free in india,they can protest, riot and burn public property ,even hit back at kashmir police!!Yes some media restrictions and leaders are detained to avoid big law and order problem!!

it has a provincial govt and india has only defense ,military control over it !!

Army in kashmir is in barrack at borders!!Valley is controlled by local police!!



India kashmir is pretty developed with high literacy much much ahead of pak kashmir!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDdkV4kX9rM


The only problem is the separitist leaders who incite local youths!!But we have learnt to live with stone pelters :)

 

[crankthskunk]

Re: China has accepted Pakistani request to take control of Gwadar Port

Can you please clarify who is 'we' here?

We are the AFPAK, the term invented by your friends the yanks.[hilar][hilar]

 

[desicad]

Re: China has accepted Pakistani request to take control of Gwadar Port

We are the AFPAK, the term invented by your friends the yanks.[hilar][hilar]

But pakistan and afghan govt. are fighting alongside US in this war.......that makes yanks afpak friends.

 

[terex]

Re: China has accepted Pakistani request to take control of Gwadar Port

But pakistan and afghan govt. are fighting alongside US in this war.......that makes yanks afpak friends.

He has little knowledge about anything!!
Ghajwa is not working any more!!Americans will have a decent base before they leave afganistan!

Then it will be india who will take control of situation!we will support our afgan brothers and not allow any nation to disturb them!!

 

[No2liberalExtermists]

Re: China has accepted Pakistani request to take control of Gwadar Port

Just found out the singapore company, PSA International, has contract to operate the Gawader port for 40 years. So, this news is nothing more than an empty offer to China. Who knows what will happen after 40 years? What government will be in power in China and in Pakistan. The people making decision today will most likely dead by then.

 

[terex]

Re: China has accepted Pakistani request to take control of Gwadar Port

Just found out the singapore company, PSA International, has contract to operate the Gawader port for 40 years. So, this news is nothing more than an empty offer to China. Who knows what will happen after 40 years? What government will be in power in China and in Pakistan. The people making decision today will most likely dead by then.

Cancelling contract with singapore company will cost pakistan billion of dollars!!

No investors will like to do business (except china)!!

i think paksitan is not ready for it

 

[crankthskunk]

Re: China has accepted Pakistani request to take control of Gwadar Port

But pakistan and afghan govt. are fighting alongside US in this war.......that makes yanks afpak friends.

Ahan, this is called blindness. So we are friends right! Thats what we had been trying to say for a while, we help the yanks for 10 years, became biggest victims of terror ourselves. But still you the Bhindians falsely calls us "Terrorists".

Thank you for admitting we had been good guys, and you are the real bad guys, opportunist blood suckers, famous for their treachery.

 

[crankthskunk]

Re: China has accepted Pakistani request to take control of Gwadar Port

Just found out the singapore company, PSA International, has contract to operate the Gawader port for 40 years. So, this news is nothing more than an empty offer to China. Who knows what will happen after 40 years? What government will be in power in China and in Pakistan. The people making decision today will most likely dead by then.

Never heard of cancellation of contracts?

 

[desicad]

Re: China has accepted Pakistani request to take control of Gwadar Port

Ahan, this is called blindness. So we are friends right! Thats what we had been trying to say for a while, we help the yanks for 10 years, became biggest victims of terror ourselves. But still you the Bhindians falsely calls us "Terrorists".

Thank you for admitting we had been good guys, and you are the real bad guys, opportunist blood suckers, famous for their treachery.

Have you heard of playing double game? May be you can check with the yankies.
BTW are you really educated as you claim, I see lot of name calling in your posts. :)

 

[gazoomartian]

Re: China has accepted Pakistani request to take control of Gwadar Port

Never heard of cancellation of contracts?

if they only had any education LOL

 

[only_truths]

Re: China has accepted Pakistani request to take control of Gwadar Port

Can you please clarify who is 'we' here?

Maye be "we" means that all and sundry shouting of Pakistan's sovereignity ?

Originally Posted by crankthskunk
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-------------------- Your number is next, deny if you can, but that is coming no matter what, if we can defeat USSR and USA you are nothing, absolutely nothing at all.:P


On the one hand you guys say, India supporting Talibans from Afghanistan and now you say will India be strong enough to fight Taliban, decide which one is correct? If Afghanistan does not want our development assisstance, why Indians should stay there?

 

[crankthskunk]

Re: China has accepted Pakistani request to take control of Gwadar Port

Have you heard of playing double game? May be you can check with the yankies.
BTW are you really educated as you claim, I see lot of name calling in your posts. :)

Double games?

Yes we know all about double games. We helped USA defeat USSR help ending the cold war. Gave US the chance to be the world only super power. USA abandoned its responsibilities and left. We end up picking up the tap for millions of Afghan refuges which are still in Pakistan. They still refuse to go to Afghanistan, even though the champion of democracy and human rights is in their Country Afghanistan.

Try telling this to the Afghan refugees that they would be safe in the hands of USA.

Then US landed again, this time after a false flag operation, which now majority of US population accept was an inside job.

It forgot about the help of Pakistan in the past. Instead it issued ultimatum, you are with us or against us, and you will be sent to stone age if you do not help us, said Musharaf, denied by the yanks.

We provided help yet again, giving access to our port, free of charge, use of our roads free of charge. Pakistan army fighting their wars imposed upon us. We lost around $70 billions, only $20 billions reimbursed by the USA. Instead of being thankful, US allowed Indian RAW to establish its network in Afghanistan and on the border with Pakistan.

From those posts and from their terror training centers in Afghanistan, India start sending these terrorists in to Pakistan. As a result of these terrorists activities, Pakistanis are dying every day. We want to know who is training them, who is financing them and providing them expensive state of the art communication devices which are not even in the use of Pakistani military and establishment.

Pakistanis have lost over 30,000 innocent civilians plus 5000 our military men. We also want to know who is responsible. Who is playing double games with Pakistan and its people?

 

[crankthskunk]

Re: China has accepted Pakistani request to take control of Gwadar Port

Maye be "we" means that all and sundry shouting of Pakistan's sovereignity ?

Originally Posted by crankthskunk
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-------------------- Your number is next, deny if you can, but that is coming no matter what, if we can defeat USSR and USA you are nothing, absolutely nothing at all.:P


On the one hand you guys say, India supporting Talibans from Afghanistan and now you say will India be strong enough to fight Taliban, decide which one is correct? If Afghanistan does not want our development assisstance, why Indians should stay there?

I think you are very confused man, we don't say you are supporting Taliban in Afghanistan. We say you are supporting the terrorists inside Pakistan, which are trained and financed by RAW from Afghanistan.

 

[-CSIS-]

Re: China has accepted Pakistani request to take control of Gwadar Port

It should be a welcome news for the region and the rest of the world, only china can handle these kind of sticky situations effectively, west cares a little exaggeratedly about human rights and loss of life back home and elsewhere. China being an authoritarian system has proven to be ruthless and very effective in dealing with subjugation, pacification and stabilization for example in Tibet and Xinjiang. I think the areas infected by Taliban and Jehadies should be out sourced to China for next ten years.

 

[No2liberalExtermists]

Re: China has accepted Pakistani request to take control of Gwadar Port

O jahiloo, read the news item. it says that China will be handed over the control after the expiration of the contract with Singapore. The contract will expire in 35 years according to dawn news.

if they only had any education LOL

 

[only_truths]

Re: China has accepted Pakistani request to take control of Gwadar Port

I think you are very confused man, we don't say you are supporting Taliban in Afghanistan. We say you are supporting the terrorists inside Pakistan, which are trained and financed by RAW from Afghanistan.

Agreed, people making havoc in Pakistan are terrorists. How about people outside Pakistan e.g. Afghanistan who are making havoc, a mujahideen?