Be aware of fabricated Ahadeeth

Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

The Janzah prayer was performed over Imm Bukhr and his body was covered with soil. A beautiful musk smell exuded from the earth of his grave which lasted for several days. People from far and wide began to visit it in astonishment and also took handfuls of earth from his grave for blessings (tabarruk).
Abul-Fath as-Samarqand relates: "two hundred years after the death of Imm Bukhr, a drought struck Samarqand. The people made the istisq' prayer and invocations but rain did not fall. A saintly man came to the judge (Qd) of the city and gave him some advice. He said: 'With the people of the city, go to the grave of Imm Bukhr and invoke Allh the Exalted there to give you rain. Perhaps Allh will accept our invocations and give us rain.' The judge of the city accepted this advice with delight and proceeded to go to the grave. The people followed him and upon arrival, he prayed for rain in front of them at the grave. People wept and also sought the intercession of the one who was in the grave. At that moment, clouds gathered and Allh sent such heavy rain that those who were in Kharteng could not reach Samarqand for seven days because of the rain's abundance.

No doubt that Imam Bukhari was the compiler of the most authentic Hadeeths collected in Sahih Bukhari. But why we have to exaggerate his status by telling stories which are against the teaching of Quraan??? Imam Bukhari himself did not included any of the Hadeeth in his book, Sahih bukhari, proving intercession of a dead person in his grave. This concept of intercession is against Quraan:


[FONT=&amp]Allah says in the Holy Quran Chapter 2 Surah Al Baqarah verse 186:[/FONT]

وَإِذَا سَأَلَكَ عِبَادِي عَنِّي فَإِنِّي قَرِيبٌ ۖ أُجِيبُ دَعْوَةَ الدَّاعِ إِذَا دَعَانِ ۖ فَلْيَسْتَجِيبُوا لِي وَلْيُؤْمِنُوا بِي لَعَلَّهُمْ يَرْشُدُونَ
Translation by Yusuf Ali: When My servants ask thee concerning Me, I am indeed close (to them): I listen to the prayer of every suppliant when he calleth on Me: Let them also, with a will, Listen to My call, and believe in Me: That they may walk in the right way.

Translation by Shakir: And when My servants ask you concerning Me, then surely I am very near; I answer the prayer of the suppliant when he calls on Me, so they should answer My call and believe in Me that they may walk in the right way.

Translation by Pickthal: And when My servants question thee concerning Me, then surely I am nigh. I answer the prayer of the suppliant when he crieth unto Me. So let them hear My call and let them trust in Me, in order that they may be led aright.

Translation by Mohsin Khan: And when My slaves ask you (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) concerning Me, then (answer them), I am indeed near (to them by My Knowledge). I respond to the invocations of the supplicant when he calls on Me (without any mediator or intercessor). So let them obey Me and believe in Me, so that they may be led aright.

اور جب آپ سےمیرے بندے میرے متعلق سوال کریں تو میں نزدیک ہوں دعاا کرنے والے کی دعا قبول کرتا ہوں جب وہ مجھے پکارتا ہے پھر چاہیئے کہ میرا حکم مانیں اور مجھ پر ایمان لائیں تاکہ وہ ہدایت پائیں
 

Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Is this hadith authentic??? Awais Qarni broke his teeth when he heard about the lost tooth of hazrat Muhammad pbuh

Hadrat Awais Qarni (r.a.) was from the tribe of Qarni from the Yemen. Although he never migrated to Madinah and never met the Prophet (saws) himself, he had accepted Islam; and the one and only reason he did not come to Madinah and meet the Prophet (saws) was because he had an abjectly old mother whose service he did not wish to leave. The Messenger of Allah (saws) appreciated and accepted the excuse of Hadrat Awais Qarni (r.a.) and included him amongst his companions, even though the two actually never ever met in person.

As much as Hadrat Awais Qarni (r.a.) is honored, respected, and included as one amongst the noble companions of the Messenger of Allah (saws), there is absolutely no evidence in the authentic or established Sunnah or in the records of history that he broke his teeth in the Yemen when he heard that the teeth of Allahs Messenger (saws) has been injured and broken during the Battle of Uhud.

Had the breaking of ones teeth oneself after the episode that occurred with the Prophet (saws) in Uhud considered a virtue in Islam, the companions closest to the Prophet (saws) like Hadrat Abu Bakr (r.a.), Hadrat Umar (r.a.), Hadrat Uthmaan (r.a.), Hadrat Ali (r.a.), etc. too would have broken their teeth to earn the Pleasure of Allah and His Messenger (saws).but there is absolutely no record of such an occurrence.

And Allah Alone Knows Best.

Whatever written of Truth and benefit is only due to Allahs Assistance and Guidance, and whatever of error is of me alone. Allah Alone Knows Best and He is the Only Source of Strength.

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atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
@atensari ,
I do not have any list for the simple reason that I do not have time to study them.
My whole time is devoted to Quran and other academic subjects. You please check
the posts 2, 3 by br. simple and peaceful. My contest or point is:
a) Were the Hadiths ever fabricated, yes or no;
b) Why then again in present age one Hadith is Sahi for someone and not sahi for others;
That the reason I asked you give me one and only one Hadith in which our
whole text of salaat is mentioned and that Hadith is agreed by all.

وَلَا تَقْفُ مَا لَيْسَ لَكَ بِهِۦ عِلْمٌ ۚ إِنَّ ٱلسَّمْعَ وَٱلْبَصَرَ وَٱلْفُؤَادَ كُلُّ أُو۟لَٰٓئِكَ كَانَ عَنْهُ مَسْـُٔولًۭا {17:36**
And go not thou after that where of thou hast no knowledge verily the hearing and the sight and the heart, each of these shall be asked about.
اور (اے بندے) جس چیز کا تجھے علم نہیں اس کے پیچھے نہ پڑ۔ کہ کان اور آنکھ اور دل ان سب (جوارح) سے ضرور باز پرس ہوگی

Did Imam's not only collected the Adeeth but categorize them too? Did your non-Imams found any discrepancies? Please point out. If Whole text of Salat is not mentioned in single Hadeeth and in Quran too. What should we need to do then?
 
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babadeena

Minister (2k+ posts)
وَلَا تَقْفُ مَا لَيْسَ لَكَ بِهِۦ عِلْمٌ ۚ إِنَّ ٱلسَّمْعَ وَٱلْبَصَرَ وَٱلْفُؤَادَ كُلُّ أُو۟لَٰٓئِكَ كَانَ عَنْهُ مَسْـُٔولًۭا {17:36**
And go not thou after that where of thou hast no knowledge verily the hearing and the sight and the heart, each of these shall be asked about.
اور (اے بندے) جس چیز کا تجھے علم نہیں اس کے پیچھے نہ پڑ۔ کہ کان اور آنکھ اور دل ان سب (جوارح) سے ضرور باز پرس ہوگی

Did Imam's not only collected the Adeeth but categorize them too? Did your non-Imams found any discrepancies? Please point out. If Whole text of Salat is not mentioned in single Hadeeth and in Quran too. What should we need to do then?
From my side, you or any one can have whole of world's Hadiths. But when a thing is
contradictory to Quran and is not mentioned in Quran and that thing is being
propagated as being the big event, then definitely questions will be raised.
So you do not have a single Hadith containing whole text of Salat? did you learn everything
of Salaat from Hadith, I did not, I learned it from the practice of elders???
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
From my side, you or any one can have whole of world's Hadiths. But when a thing is
contradictory to Quran and is not mentioned in Quran and that thing is being
propagated as being the big event, then definitely questions will be raised.
So you do not have a single Hadith containing whole text of Salat? did you learn everything
of Salaat from Hadith, I did not, I learned it from the practice of elders???

How some thing mentioned in Hadeeth not mentioned in Quran makes it contradictory? Does this rule applicable to anything or just pick and choose?
From where your elders learned how to perform Salata, What was their source other then Hadeeth?
 

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