After Tunisia, Egypt takes to the streets. Is this the end of authoritarianism in the Muslim world?

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE70O3UW20110125?pageNumber=1

(Reuters) - Thousands of Egyptians demanded an end to President Hosni Mubarak's 30-year rule and three people were killed in unprecedented countrywide protests on Tuesday inspired by the revolt that brought down Tunisia's president.

"Down, down, Hosni Mubarak," chanted protesters in Cairo, where police fired teargas and used water cannon, and protesters hurled bottles and rocks at them.

Two protesters in the city of Suez, east of Cairo, died as a result of rubber bullets, security and medical sources said. State television said one security officer died in central Cairo because of a blow to the head from a stone that was thrown.

Some protesters were beaten hard by police with sticks. Others, in a rare show of nerve against a huge national security operation, chased police down side streets. Reuters TV footage showed one policeman joining the demonstrators.

In Alexandria protesters flipped over a police vehicle and tore down a picture of Mubarak, 82, and one of his son, Gamal, who many Egyptians believe is being groomed for office when his father stands down. Both deny this.

Protesters in Cairo who responded to calls by web activists for action cried: "Gamal, tell your father Egyptians hate you."

Analyst Nabil Abdel-Fattah said: "What is happening today is a major warning to the system. It is both an extension of pent-up frustrations and continued protests. What is also new is that there are new generations who are using new tools."

The protest could gather momentum unless the state swiftly addressed the demand for reform, he said.

Sites such as Facebook and Twitter have been key tools for activists in galvanizing protesters. Harvard University's Herdict web monitoring service reported that Egyptians said the Twitter website was blocked on all Internet Service Providers.

Egyptians have the same complaints that drove Tunisians onto the streets: surging food prices, poverty, unemployment and authoritarian rule that smothers public protests quickly and often brutally. "Tunisia, Tunisia," protesters shouted.

Tunisia's new government, formed after President Zine al-Abidine Ben Ali fled, has struggled to assert itself against protests that continued on Tuesday demanding a purge of former regime loyalists from the cabinet.

The United States, a close ally of Egypt and major aid donor, called for restraint from all sides to avoid violence.

"Our assessment is that the Egyptian government is stable and is looking for ways to respond to the legitimate needs and interests of the Egyptian people," U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told reporters in Washington.

The protests in Cairo and other cities may have drawn 20,000 people or more, based on witnesses. An Interior Ministry statement said more than 10,000 gathered in one central square in Cairo alone, but did not give an overall number.

But it is hard to estimate because protests were so spread out and state media gave only cursory mention of the events.

"DAY OF WRATH"

Egyptian protests usually draw only a few hundred people. The large numbers and the fact that protests across several cities were coordinated in a way not seen before gave Tuesday's events a force unprecedented since Mubarak took office in 1981.

With most formal opposition groups fractured and toothless, web activists led the calls for Tuesday's demonstrations, billed as a "Day of Wrath" against poverty and repression.

By drawing demonstrators in such numbers, online activists have shown their calls for political change can reach a broad audience. Until now most of the rage has stayed on the Internet.

As night fell, police and protesters in Cairo's central Tahrir square mingled and some shared food. Some protesters showed no sign of quitting for the night.

Messages on Twitter and Facebook read earlier: "Tahrir protesters are not going home. They need food and blankets. Roads are closed, so if you live nearby, please help."

Others called for more protests in the days ahead.

Demonstrations took place in Ismailia and Suez, both cities east of Cairo, and in other Nile Delta cities like Mansoura and Tanta. Protesters also gathered in north Sinai.

"We are gathered here to demand our rights. We can't live. Everything is expensive and there is unemployment. We want prices to go down. This government is the reason for our suffering," said Ibrahim, 33, in Mahalla el Kubra, the site of 2008 riots over subsidised bread shortages and price rises.

ARRESTS

In Ismailia, protesters chanted: "Where are you, freedom?" In Alexandria they shouted: "Revolution, revolution, like a volcano against Mubarak the coward."

Medical and security sources said dozens were injured. A security source said 15 people were detained in Cairo. A group of lawyers said some 85 were detained across Egypt. Another source said two police officers were injured in Suez when rocks were hurled. Witnesses saw protesters dragged off by police.

The Interior Ministry said in a statement that despite the provocative approach of some demonstrators "they were allowed to organize peaceful protests." It blamed the banned opposition Muslim Brotherhood for provoking some rioting.

The Brotherhood, seen as having Egypt's biggest grassroots network, had not made an explicit call to join the protest in the days leading up to it. But some members joined in.

The Interior Ministry earlier said it would deal firmly with anyone breaking the law and said demonstrators could face arrest. But Interior Minister Habib al-Adli had told a state newspaper he welcomed stationary protests for short periods.

"We have orders not to clash with them (protesters)," one security officer was heard to say, speaking on a mobile phone earlier in the demonstration in Cairo before scuffles began.

Analysts had expected the authorities to show a more tolerant attitude for fear of provoking the kind of anger that drove Tunisians into weeks of unrest before the president fled.

Ben Ali sought refuge in Saudi Arabia, and some of the Cairo protesters chanted: "Oh Mubarak, Saudi Arabia awaits you."

One Twitter entry urged police to join the "people's side."

"In my book, if you get a tenth of the 80,000 people or so who support the initiative online, it will be a success," wrote Issandr El Amrani on his blog arabist.net before the protests.
 

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)


Egypts Tiananmen Square moment. Man stands infront of armored vehicle.

GO EGYPT!!

LET THE REVOLUTIONS BEGIN ALL OVER THE MUSLIM WORLD.

REAL REVOLUTIONS OF THE COMMON PEOPLE.
NOT ONES DRIVEN BY MULLAHS AND TALIBAN LIKE IDIOTS.
 

adnan_younus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
dnt expect this in Pakistan; corrupt ppl dnt come to streets and there are many ppl in pakistan who offer food and water to hungry men. When middle class educated ppl will have no means to live and they rely on charity then expect revolution
 

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
dnt expect this in Pakistan; corrupt ppl dnt come to streets and there are many ppl in pakistan who offer food and water to hungry men. When middle class educated ppl will have no means to live and they rely on charity then expect revolution

Tunisia and Egypt were more repressive and authoritarian than Pakistan has ever been. We are the free-est country in the Muslim world.
The Tunisian revolution started with one fruit vendor setting fire to himself after the police threw away his cart and slapped and humiliated him.

I believe that we have reached the very edge of patience and accommodation to the corrupt rulers, bureaucracy and army. The spark can ignite anytime. I pray it does. After seeing the change in Tunisia and now the movement in Egypt I believe it is VERY possible. Let us pray it happens soon.
 

faqira786

Senator (1k+ posts)
Dont expect anything from People of Pakistan, Pakistan people are in deep sleep or enjoying Zardari Presidency
People seems very happy for last 3 years under Zardari regime. Zardari offered them roti, kapra and makan and people are very peaceful

Only Overseas pakistani are more worried than people living in Paksitan
 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Time is changing very quickly.

It is end of American Era.

Same as Faron era ended, no body could say that a person will finish this big kingdom.

As Allah said, that he never destroy the nation unless until a person is send them to warn.

So after the presidency of Obama, next will be a killer and that will be end of America too.
 

aqeel813

Minister (2k+ posts)
Time is changing very quickly.

It is end of American Era.

Same as Faron era ended, no body could say that a person will finish this big kingdom.

As Allah said, that he never destroy the nation unless until a person is send them to warn.

So after the presidency of Obama, next will be a killer and that will be end of America too.



i dont believe in predictions and ilm-e-najoom sort of thing. but i remember a program of dr. shahid masood about a year back. in that program a person predicted that soon there will be a complete change in the leadership of most countries of the world, especially the islamic world. these incidents reminded me of him and his predictions.
 

dukelondon

Senator (1k+ posts)
InshaAllah change will come and Kingdoms will vanish. Kingdoms in Muslim countries are the greatest threat to Islam.
 

Nawazish

Minister (2k+ posts)
Things are getting worst in Egypt

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aqeel813

Minister (2k+ posts)
hamain pta nai kab aqal aay gi. pta nai kab ham facebook, youtube, twitter waghera ko funny clips upload krne ki bjay kisi positive purpose k liay use kerain gay. tunisia and egypt both are triggered and organised on fb, youtube, and twitter. more than 90,000 people joined a facebook page to organize the anger day in egypt and look at the result. hamain pta nai kab aqal gi.
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Time is changing very quickly.

It is end of American Era.

Same as Faron era ended, no body could say that a person will finish this big kingdom.

As Allah said, that he never destroy the nation unless until a person is send them to warn.

So after the presidency of Obama, next will be a killer and that will be end of America too.

Agreed. Very well said.
 

biomat

Minister (2k+ posts)
Dear Raaz bro
Assalam-o-alaikum
As you rightly said about america demise, but as it is famous Hadith that DAJJAL WILL RULE FOR 4 days, his 1st day as year, 2nd day as month, 3rd day as week & last day as normal days of ours..
So for my research the first one was BRITISH RULE, second is USA (near end), the third one as Dr Israr used to say that it will be Israel.. But i think he was wrong..
I think the 3rd day of Dajjal Rule will be PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF CHINA.. Sorry to say that, but i have seen video proofs that most secret cults & organisations (who are working for NWO) are shifting to China to implement NWO.. So if USA goes down, there will be another far more cruel & powerful force coming to keep us on our Knees..
I know ALLAH will raise people who will continue to fight against evil, but we should not be happy with the downfall of USA, we should be thinking of fighting or least saving ourselves against this fitna to come..
And lastly the 4th day of Dajjal rule will surely be GREATER ISRAEL (that is including Syria, Jordan, Egypt & some part of Saudia)..
So if some are thinking of these sudden REVOLUTIONS as good, i pray that these sudden revolutions should bring some fresh air for muslims in that region, but i am seeing greater game plan in this..
ALLAH knows best..
 

lotaparty

Voter (50+ posts)
Dont expect anything from People of Pakistan, Pakistan people are in deep sleep or enjoying Zardari Presidency
People seems very happy for last 3 years under Zardari regime. Zardari offered them roti, kapra and makan and people are very peaceful

Only Overseas pakistani are more worried than people living in Paksitan

What revolution do you want? There is democracy in Pakistan no dictatorship.

Right!
 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
hamain pta nai kab aqal aay gi. pta nai kab ham facebook, youtube, twitter waghera ko funny clips upload krne ki bjay kisi positive purpose k liay use kerain gay. tunisia and egypt both are triggered and organised on fb, youtube, and twitter. more than 90,000 people joined a facebook page to organize the anger day in egypt and look at the result. hamain pta nai kab aqal gi.

Brother , u r right, but the financial situation in Egypt is very bad.

US funds a lot , to Egypt and it is poorest country of the region.

This revolution is not against Islam ,but it is against poverty and corrupt rulers , proposed by UK ans US.

THe slavery is finishing.

Look in our peek time , the kingdoms used to change and they were free, I mean Kings were free not representing the pope or Europe.

Thats why people were happy.

But now our all rulers r pro jews and pro American. This could not go on for long time.

It is good that Muslims will take off the yolk of America.

As regards to China, China is not the great invader. they will support Muslims to fight against US and Europe.

The fighter nations r Muslims and Christians. a little bit Jews ,

Just like Jews said to Hazrat Musa , you and your Allah go and fight with enemy. to get a country for us.

 

Salik

Senator (1k+ posts)
Inshallah... we will see a change soon.... in the Arab world... In Pakistan and elsewhere....

May be... this is the beginning of the end...
 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Inshallah... we will see a change soon.... in the Arab world... In Pakistan and elsewhere....

May be... this is the beginning of the end...

This change is the first reaction after the shock of loss of Khilafat after a long time.

جو قوم صدمے سے بیہوش ہو گی تھی اس میں جھر جھری آ رہی ہے
جس کی اقبال نے تمنا کی تھی

 

Salik

Senator (1k+ posts)
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Young

Senator (1k+ posts)
Follow up the whole situation in Tunis. u will came to know tht they have not any leadership which will come and take power of that country according to people of Tunis. Its looks like that they r having more problem now. Its not revolution. They r loosing the tourists which is one of the main income of this country. They normally have lot of tourist specally from FRANCE.
Anyhow we hope best for them. We hope best for Egypt also . If this thing is good for Egypt so it must happens, otherwise not. Just think about tht persons family which are dead.
 

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Follow up the whole situation in Tunis. u will came to know tht they have not any leadership which will come and take power of that country according to people of Tunis. Its looks like that they r having more problem now. Its not revolution. They r loosing the tourists which is one of the main income of this country. They normally have lot of tourist specally from FRANCE.
Anyhow we hope best for them. We hope best for Egypt also . If this thing is good for Egypt so it must happens, otherwise not. Just think about tht persons family which are dead.


So you are advocating that it is better to have tyrants like BEn Ali and Hosni Mobarak in power for 2-3 decades than rise up and have a few tourists leave the country for a while?
 

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