A Question from the forum MEMBERS, specially MQM supporters

[Pathfinder]

I am Inspired By The English Defence League (EDL) to create the Pakistani Defence League (PDL). I have had enough of these traitors that rape and pillage the land and its innocent inhabitace who are already strugling with survival to feed and cloth themselves. Pakistan was not made for these B******s and they DO NOT UNDERSTAND PLAIN LANGUAGE AND ONLY UNDERSTAND THE BARREL OF THE GUN. MQM,ANP,PPP and anyother outlet of terror need to be put down. appologies in advance for my ranting. THE BOTTOM LINE IS IF YOU TOLLERATE THIS (TODAY) YOUR CHILDREN WILL BE (TARGETED) NEXT.

 

[EniGma90]

You better go to a good mental hospital for check up.
I born and lived in karachi till 2006 i know MQM mafia n there crimes.
You are lying or misguided. Allah SWT knows better.
But MQM is a biggest CULPRIT of karachi all other parties are RETALIATION.

Aluhmdolilah I have no need to lie better u should go and take some english classes before commenting in ANGREZI. You racist mole, read what i wrote.. U left karachi in 2006, If n if u were there on 27th december 2007, was it Mqm or urdu speaker involved in BB's murder???
Everybody in karachi knows what ppl of liyari, banaras and surhab goth did on that day... No doubt in it that Mqm is criminal, but lesser than Pathan and Baloch criminals...

 

[EniGma90]

First my response to the allegation I didn't give the name of ANP therefore I am biased. Please read before commenting, I wrote "many political parties" and then added the two groups by name which are not political parties in their own rights. I didn't preclude ANP or PPP or anyone else, they are included in my quote as "Many Political parties".

Now to your other comments;

1- The older situation viz a viz "Fatima Jinnah". Even at that time there were efforts to start Mojahir and Pushtoon riots.

2- Your assertion that the best period was 2002-2007 because MQM was totally in charge of Karachi. It means you are using the same canned logic of MQM, either we are in power or we kill the innocents. In essence you are confirming what the real problem of Karachi is, MQM quest of power and to control Karachi completely and exclude all others.

3- Other parties including the two groups realised the policy of MQM and their success in wrestling away the control of Karachi and establishment of "mafia" like grip on Pakistan on the point of a gun. So they armed themselves to counter it. As a result full scale murder and mayhem started in last few years in Karachi.

4- MQM was stealing the funds from Karachi between 2002-2007 and transferring it to London using illegal means.

5- You saying that MQM have not collected any money or hides from your family can only bring the smiles on the faces of people. You against millions who know and tell you in private what MQM do. Even though in public they wouldn't because they care about the lives of their family members. Doesn't it say something to you about MQM?

6- I have spoken to few on Eid to say Eid Mubarrak. I asked each and everyone of them about the situation in Karachi and who is primarily responsible for the situation. The consensus of opinion was MQM is the main culprit, but others have joined in, because they realised crime is paying in Karachi. I must remind you, they all were so-called "Mohajirs" and known to me through out my life. So who should I believe, you who I don't know or those I know and also know that they have absolutely no reasons to lie to me, and they are not involved with any Political parties. Most of them don't vote at all. But it does not mean their votes are not cast, we all know "Thappa Mafia " khappe khappe and khappe for MQM.[hilar][hilar]

7- one of them told me that even the "Green Pagri" wale are also collecting Bhatta. He was referring to Suni Tahreek.

8- I was also told that even small shops are not spared, someone give the true example of a Barber in his area. Who had been asked to give "Bhatta" of Rs200 a day to MQM. When he complained he does not make that much money he was told, then you should close your shop. If you don't we will close it down in case you don't pay the daily rate now set it up for your shop.

And you truly want me to believe none of your family ever asked the "Bhatta" by MQM?:lol::lol:

That why I said you have never ever been to karachi and u can't understand its politics... let my give u response point by point...

1- There were not any sort of efforts for Mohajir-pathan riots, It was a full fledged attack by pushtoon terrorist on Muhajirs while celebrating the Ayub's victory, Was there Mqm or altaf involved?? was there any slogan at that time defining Muhajir cause??? It is clearly showing your pushtoon racism towards urdu speaker, Ist you are hesitated in mentioning the name of ANP now u described a mahajir massacre as "riots b/w mahair and pathan"

2- During Mustafa kamal's tenure construction work was at its peak, everyday new roads, underspasses, bridges, parks etc were coming in our sights. Now every karachiite know that 80% of karachi labour is Pathan, or mainly from other places . They have become jobless now, but they have to feed their families as a result they have started criminal activities.

3- Mqm and altaf followed pathans (ayubs and his sons) and now anp is following Mqm...

4- May be you have the proves what Mqm was doing with funds, But I am talking what was on the ground. karachi was going to beat Mumbai if that pace is continued. check some utube videos regarding the development works, as u have never been to this great city...

5- I am telling u my personal experience.. you are free to believe or not to believe.

6- Well, why should I believe you that you are speaking truth ??? I have many friends here who are pukthoons (mostly anp supporters) and majority of them wants separation from Pakistan and are dreaming of Greater Pushtunistan, as we all know Asfand yar wali and ANP are "SArhadi Ghandis"...

7- you are absolutely ryt.

8- May be u are ryt but no karachiite is gonna believe on that amount..

yah Man you should believe me, I have been living in this city for last 21 years...

 

[crankthskunk]

That why I said you have never ever been to karachi and u can't understand its politics... let my give u response point by point...

1- There were not any sort of efforts for Mohajir-pathan riots, It was a full fledged attack by pushtoon terrorist on Muhajirs while celebrating the Ayub's victory, Was there Mqm or altaf involved?? was there any slogan at that time defining Muhajir cause??? It is clearly showing your pushtoon racism towards urdu speaker, Ist you are hesitated in mentioning the name of ANP now u described a mahajir massacre as "riots b/w mahair and pathan"

2- During Mustafa kamal's tenure construction work was at its peak, everyday new roads, underspasses, bridges, parks etc were coming in our sights. Now every karachiite know that 80% of karachi labour is Pathan, or mainly from other places . They have become jobless now, but they have to feed their families as a result they have started criminal activities.

3- Mqm and altaf followed pathans (ayubs and his sons) and now anp is following Mqm...

4- May be you have the proves what Mqm was doing with funds, But I am talking what was on the ground. karachi was going to beat Mumbai if that pace is continued. check some utube videos regarding the development works, as u have never been to this great city...

5- I am telling u my personal experience.. you are free to believe or not to believe.

6- Well, why should I believe you that you are speaking truth ??? I have many friends here who are pukthoons (mostly anp supporters) and majority of them wants separation from Pakistan and are dreaming of Greater Pushtunistan, as we all know Asfand yar wali and ANP are "SArhadi Ghandis"...

7- you are absolutely ryt.

8- May be u are ryt but no karachiite is gonna believe on that amount..

yah Man you should believe me, I have been living in this city for last 21 years...

I will respond to your allegations and comments one by one too.

1- I didnt mention any political partys name so why are you hooked on ANP? Have you seen my regular comments on ANP on this forum? How many proofs you want that I regularly criticize them, and accept without any problems that now they are also involved in criminal activities.

2- My parents migrated to Pakistan as well from North of Dehli so how could you say I have Pathans bias?

3- But I also consider myself a Pushtoon because my forefathers migrated from the Afghans side of the border, just on the other side of Dir from the areas of Kunar and Nuristan provinces. My background allows me to see and associate with both sides, thats what a Pakistani should be. I was talking to someone close to me in Karachi, and he said it is easier for him on the streets, because he can pass as both. He can speak Urdu like Urdu speaking Mohajirs and he looks like Pathan because of his Pushtoon blood.

4- Mustafa Kamal is a thief, he stolen billions from the funds given by Musharaf and transferred to London through illegal means. I know because of my family connections with some of the biggest builders in Karachi. I am talking about top ten richest families in Pakistan here. I know inside details how much money was siphoned away by MQM by first awarding contracts on higher cost, taking their cuts and then further money by allowing substandard material used. Plus why do you say he has done it for Karachi? Is it his personal wealth? It is from the budget come from public funds and taxes. If anything he is guilty of theft of national wealth.

5- I laugh when you MQMers keep insisting that I have never been to that city. For your information I had been to that great city last year to attend a family wedding. The wedding ceremonies were held in Rangers headquarters in North Nazimabad. On the same side of the Road just passed (if you coming from north Karachi side) the new recently built beautiful shopping centre. The headquarters have 4 or 5 Lawns A.B etc. How many pictures you want to see me in Karachi in recent years? I told you my family lives there. Dont act like fools, what I would get by lying to you? Ask me anything about the newer part of the city I already said I dont know the older areas, I dont know anyone who lives in those areas. Grow up.

 

[BanneD]

Liyari ki jung basically consulates and port ki jaga ke liye he!! Liyari thoray dinoo me itna safe hojayega ke shayad 90 bhi nhi he!! Sirf uss zameen ko port ko daina he and bahar ke beghairato ke liye jaga banani he!! Iss waqt liyari me sirf paisa khel raha he becauz liyari ko khali karanay per government ka mun bhara jayega!! And government har koshish kar rahi he chahay jinka mulk he wo rahain ya na rahain but dosri countries ke representatives ko jaga mill jaye!! And Liyari ke halaat issiliye kharab karay ja rahay hen becauz wahan ke rehnay walay jaga nhi chor rahay and they want that all place.. and kacchi committee are defending their place, but udhar ke halaat itnay kharab kardainay hen inho ne ke sab normal people chalay jain.. And I think aadha liyari khali hochuka he.. Abh sirf wahan ziada log jo hen wo ghunday hen.. Abh operation hoga aur kahain ge ke Liyari me saray ghunday rehtay hen and humny liyari ka operation kamyaab kardia he.. Remember yah issliye ho raha he becauz saanp bhi mar jaye and laathi bhi na tootay :P means to say ke wahan ki jaga ke liye inho ne ghunday bharay wahan and zameen khali karayee aur phr operation kardia.. Marnay walay saray ghunday hongay jaga unhy mill jaegi and they will built up for their fathers.. Poori awaam khush hojaegi ke ghunday mardiye hukumat ne!! Koi yah nhi sochay ga ke ghunday kisnay wahan bharay aur jaga kisny khali karayee!!

Issiliye poray shehar ka hashar kharab kardiya he inho ne!!

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[Aijazahmed]

First my response to the allegation I didn't give the name of ANP therefore I am biased. Please read before commenting, I wrote "many political parties" and then added the two groups by name which are not political parties in their own rights. I didn't preclude ANP or PPP or anyone else, they are included in my quote as "Many Political parties".

Now to your other comments;

1- The older situation viz a viz "Fatima Jinnah". Even at that time there were efforts to start Mojahir and Pushtoon riots.

2- Your assertion that the best period was 2002-2007 because MQM was totally in charge of Karachi. It means you are using the same canned logic of MQM, either we are in power or we kill the innocents. In essence you are confirming what the real problem of Karachi is, MQM quest of power and to control Karachi completely and exclude all others.

3- Other parties including the two groups realised the policy of MQM and their success in wrestling away the control of Karachi and establishment of "mafia" like grip on Pakistan on the point of a gun. So they armed themselves to counter it. As a result full scale murder and mayhem started in last few years in Karachi.

4- MQM was stealing the funds from Karachi between 2002-2007 and transferring it to London using illegal means.

5- You saying that MQM have not collected any money or hides from your family can only bring the smiles on the faces of people. You against millions who know and tell you in private what MQM do. Even though in public they wouldn't because they care about the lives of their family members. Doesn't it say something to you about MQM?

6- I have spoken to few on Eid to say Eid Mubarrak. I asked each and everyone of them about the situation in Karachi and who is primarily responsible for the situation. The consensus of opinion was MQM is the main culprit, but others have joined in, because they realised crime is paying in Karachi. I must remind you, they all were so-called "Mohajirs" and known to me through out my life. So who should I believe, you who I don't know or those I know and also know that they have absolutely no reasons to lie to me, and they are not involved with any Political parties. Most of them don't vote at all. But it does not mean their votes are not cast, we all know "Thappa Mafia " khappe khappe and khappe for MQM.[hilar][hilar]

7- one of them told me that even the "Green Pagri" wale are also collecting Bhatta. He was referring to Suni Tahreek.

8- I was also told that even small shops are not spared, someone give the true example of a Barber in his area. Who had been asked to give "Bhatta" of Rs200 a day to MQM. When he complained he does not make that much money he was told, then you should close your shop. If you don't we will close it down in case you don't pay the daily rate now set it up for your shop.

And you truly want me to believe none of your family ever asked the "Bhatta" by MQM?:lol::lol:

Total rubbish and based on Suni Sunai

 

[Young_Blood]

Yar they have inner jealousy that why these people are so united instead of 10 years operation. They have no answer they just put their haters comments. They cant do more than that. They keep burning. Let them burn. They are gulaam of jagirdar and wadara they put some roti they eat it in return of their gulami.

Ye to sab jantay hein k kon kiss ka ghulaam hai,,,, kon sir jhuka k khoufnaak awaaz 2 se 3 hours tak sunta rehta hai,,, aur samajh main kuch nahi aata,,, aur bilawaja clapping ho rahi hoti hai,,, ye poori qoum janti hai, aur ALLAH TALLAH bhe dekhtey hein,,, k kon kis ka ghulaam hai,,,, Azeem tariq ne apney AAQA Apne Malik Apne Zameeni Khuda k khalaf bagawat kerna chahi to ussey tumhary Khuda ne mout day de,,, Imran Farooq ne bagawat kerna chahi to ussey Mout day de,, Mrs Imran Farooq ne zubaan kholni chahi to uss per torture kerwaya gaya ussi k susar k haatho,,, Allah Tallah sab dekh raha hai,,, aur Insha ALLAH wahi insaaf bhe karey ga,, tum chahay Zardari ko black mail ker lo, chahay America aur UK ke ghulaami ker lo,, kitne arsey tak bachtey raho gay,,, kabhi na kabhi to oount pahar k neachey aaey ga he,,,, yaad rekhna MOUT BUR-HAQ hai,, aur Mout se koi nahi bhaag sakta...

Main Naalat bahijta hoo aisey insan per jo doosrey he insan ke ghulami kerta hai, jo ussey ALLAH se ziada izzat deta hai, martba deta hai, ALLAH k ihkamaat se ziada uss insan k ihkamaat ke takmeel kerta hai,,, aisa insan jo khud to Air condition gharo main rehta hai, aur koi London ke thandhi hawaoo main,,, ye sab k sab iss sadi k Firoon aur qaroon hein,, aur Insha ALLAH in ka anjaam bhe Firoon aur Qaroon jesa he ho ga...

 

[umairel]

Why the killings have already stopped? Even if we say, in Liyari it stopped because of action against the "Baloochies, but why it stopped in "Kati Pahari" and in Orangi town, Gulistan -e-Johar etc?

bhai khuda khuda kr k kuch halka sa aman hota ha to ap logo to tashweesh shru ho jati hay.?? Any way terrorist from any party should be most severly handled