12 may incident (the fact)

[Jury]

Admin, you knew what MQM Operatives were upto.

They created a very big hue and cry and played the blame game that you are my relative.

Result: They succeeded as you have restricted my posts alongwith Shuja's.
But Shuja was not alone, he has Jury, Zorro, Ali Ayran, Yahya, Pakistan First and a few more sitting in the same office.

I had not responded with any abusive language but have been at the receiving end.

Please don't fall in their trap, we have a right to respond to these propoganda posts.

Please SET ME FREE.

Need your support guys, please endorse my request.


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[Jury]

I have a question for YOu or anybody else. By looking at the pictures, how can tell who is who and with party? Anybody help me? Unless you know the face from before

All the pics shows flags and badges of the party.
For instance, if you are confuse with the last pic of Haqiqi Terrorist.
Some of the people around him also got the flag, and that was not of MQM.

One Haqiqi terrorists is seen loading his arms

 

[gazoomartian]

Admin, you knew what MQM Operatives were upto.

They created a very big hue and cry and played the blame game that you are my relative.

Result: They succeeded as you have restricted my posts alongwith Shuja's.
But Shuja was not alone, he has Jury, Zorro, Ali Ayran, Yahya, Pakistan First and a few more sitting in the same office.

I had not responded with any abusive language but have been at the receiving end.

Please don't fall in their trap, we have a right to respond to these propoganda posts.

Please SET ME FREE.

Need your support guys, please endorse my request.


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arey yaar, your post may have been merged like mine has been few times. Why would mods delete yours? Do a scan of special word that you used, I am sure you will find it. BUT if you really have been mistreated then Mod should abandon the policy of favoritism.

 

[waleedhussain]

This is a stupid video.... Every sensible person knows mqm is a mafia - cum - fascist party . Admin plz delete this video

 

[babadeena]

Pasting photos of few selected people from a city of millions does not serve any purpose. Even the culprits camouflaged themselves in other party's flags and cloths to shift the blame on other. The necessity is that an Independent Judicial Commission under the supervision of Senior Judge of Supreme Court may be formed to investigate the matter. They should be given full protection keeping in view the fate of all those police officers in involved in Operation of 1992. No one talk about them. They were the first to be chosen by Culprits and killed one by one. The List will become a long charge sheet.

 

[Jury]

Pasting photos of few selected people from a city of millions does not serve any purpose. Even the culprits camouflaged themselves in other party's flags and cloths to shift the blame on other. The necessity is that an Independent Judicial Commission under the supervision of Senior Judge of Supreme Court may be formed to investigate the matter. They should be given full protection keeping in view the fate of all those police officers in involved in Operation of 1992. No one talk about them. They were the first to be chosen by Culprits and killed one by one. The List will become a long charge sheet.

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Participents of the MQM Peaceful Rally listening Mr. Altaf Hussain's telephonic address
at Tibbet Centre, M.A. Jinnah Road, Karachi​

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1) How can parties other than MQM, brought weapons, if the intention was peaceful on 12th May?

2) Why till this date, they haven't published name of the workers who died on that day, in press?

3) Why the fake judiciary activist AITIZAZ AHSAN in an interview with BBCURDU said on that day, that, CJ CHUDHRY IFTIKHAR was tried to abduct and kill, by the govt, but, he didn't lodge an FIR till this date?

4. Why Imran, and other main leaders out side the province, didn't come to receive CJ at airport, after saying they would come?

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5. Why ASMA JAHANGIR haven't revealed, yet, from where she get the information about the possible blood shed?
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[babadeena]

@Jury,
a) When was visit to CJ planned before or after the MQM announcement of its so-called peaceful rally:

b) IF MQM rally was called after the much earlier announced visit to CJ, what was the motive of MQM;

c) Under whose orders, roads were blocked, containers placed. Hello who was Sind Minister of Interior;

d) Even TIP people were killed what was their fault?

I think MASTER- MINDERS OF QUICK MURDERS (MQM) do not have any answer to these questions?

 

[YAHYA87]

@Jury,
a) When was visit to CJ planned before or after the MQM announcement of its so-called peaceful rally:

b) IF MQM rally was called after the much earlier announced visit to CJ, what was the motive of MQM;

c) Under whose orders, roads were blocked, containers placed. Hello who was Sind Minister of Interior;

d) Even TIP people were killed what was their fault?

I think MASTER- MINDERS OF QUICK MURDERS (MQM) do not have any answer to these questions?

a) I dont know about CJ's plan but MQM use to organize an annual rally every year and by looking at the crowd I can suspect that they must be planning before CJ and his announcement...

b) Like I said the motive was an massive annual rally which MQM organize every year(In 2009 14 Augest)

c) It was requested by Sindh High Court to place containers two days before CJ arrival(Mubashir Luqman Show)

d) TIP(Tehrik-e-Insaf)???I dont think their was any Tehrik-e-Insaf killed in the rally(If killed then tell me their names at least) as most casualties were of ANP, MQM and PPP while remaining were common citizens of Karachi...

Here are your answers...

 

[Jury]

@Jury,
a) When was visit to CJ planned before or after the MQM announcement of its so-called peaceful rally:

b) IF MQM rally was called after the much earlier announced visit to CJ, what was the motive of MQM;

c) Under whose orders, roads were blocked, containers placed. Hello who was Sind Minister of Interior;


d) Even TIP people were killed what was their fault?

I think MASTER- MINDERS OF QUICK MURDERS (MQM) do not have any answer to these questions?

Videos in reply.

 

[babadeena]

@Jury,
if u count on M.Lucman video, the verdict is day light Clear: MQM WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE BLOODSHED ON 12TH MAY. Do you wish to convey that containers and blockage was done without the consent of Minister of Interior, Is it what you are conveying?

 

[Jury]

@Jury,
if u count on M.Lucman video, the verdict is day light Clear: MQM WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE BLOODSHED ON 12TH MAY. Do you wish to convey that containers and blockage was done without the consent of Minister of Interior, Is it what you are conveying?

CJ coming to Karachi on the invitation of Sind Bar Council.
Whatever they wanted, govt was giving to them, in order to make CJ secure.

It was not Lucman video, minutes of the meeting was submitted in court as a proof.
Ask those anchors, politicians, who said after incident, who placed container on 12th May.

When they was given answer, that, it was placed upon the behest of SIND BAR COUNCIL PRESIDENT. They have been in coma.
Container were placed, to divide two areas for two different rallies.

Ask Imran, Qazi, why didn't they come, when they said, they would come to receive CJ at Karachi Airport.

Ask Miss Asma Jahangir, why didn't she mentioned in her so called report on 12th May incident, that, she phoned MQM London MQM Secretariat and told SHE GOT THE INFORMATION THAT BLOOD SHED WOULD BE TAKEN PLACE. She still hasn't revealed, from where she got that information.

 

[YAHYA87]

@Jury,
if u count on M.Lucman video, the verdict is day light Clear: MQM WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE BLOODSHED ON 12TH MAY. Do you wish to convey that containers and blockage was done without the consent of Minister of Interior, Is it what you are conveying?

You asked question you got answer but in the end when you got nothing else to argue you said MQM is responsible....nice thats whatwe can expect from a Blind, deaf and especially DUMB heter...So keep hating MQM because it get stronger due to hate...

 

[GIYE PUKHTOON]

who says MQM getting stronger in karachi?
all those politycal parties can be stronger who has sympathy with the people.
i know MQM killed 3 pukhtoons on 12th may,even though they were MQMR,S.
all the parties in karachi are against MQM. like
1) PTI
2) ANP
3) PPP
4) PML(N)
5) PML(Q)
6) HAZARA QOMI MOMENT
7) SUNNI TEHREEK
8) MUHAJAR QOMI MOMENT
9) JAMAAT-E-ISLAMI
10) JTI
AND MORE.

all these parties have stronger position in karachi.
if we deduct the voters of these parties than the remaining voters will be maximun 5 to 10%.

 

[YAHYA87]

who says MQM getting stronger in karachi?
all those politycal parties can be stronger who has sympathy with the people.
i know MQM killed 3 pukhtoons on 12th may,even though they were MQMR,S.
all the parties in karachi are against MQM. like
1) PTI
2) ANP
3) PPP
4) PML(N)
5) PML(Q)
6) HAZARA QOMI MOMENT
7) SUNNI TEHREEK
8) MUHAJAR QOMI MOMENT
9) JAMAAT-E-ISLAMI
10) JTI
AND MORE.

MQM killing three Pashtun of their own???Thats new to me could you mention names of those Pashtuns???You are right that above mentioned parties are against MQM but they also knows the reality that MQM is the largest grassroot political party in Karachi and Hyderabad and it would take years to get over them even if any options would be tried(including military) and do you know why MQM is getting stronger??because land mafia of ANP is making them strong as MQM is expending even on those areas where people didnt want any Political parties but since ANP trying to took over they have started supporting MQM because only counter available for those Qabza group of ANP is MQM so even those who didnt liked MQM have now considering that MQM is way better then any other parties in Karachi....Even their are many Pashtuns also coming towards MQM whom have businesses in MQM areas as they are also sick of living in ANP areas which are full of badmashi and ghunda gardi and if you even ask those Pashtuns who do their businesses in MQM areas that if they given money then would they start a business in ANP areas???You will know their answers even Pashtuns dont want to do business in ANP areasbecause they know that what will happened to their business...

 

[discover]

who says MQM getting stronger in karachi?
all those politycal parties can be stronger who has sympathy with the people.
i know MQM killed 3 pukhtoons on 12th may,even though they were MQMR,S.
all the parties in karachi are against MQM. like
1) PTI
2) ANP
3) PPP
4) PML(N)
5) PML(Q)
6) HAZARA QOMI MOMENT
7) SUNNI TEHREEK
8) MUHAJAR QOMI MOMENT
9) JAMAAT-E-ISLAMI
10) JTI
AND MORE.

all these parties have stronger position in karachi.
if we deduct the voters of these parties than the remaining voters will be maximun 5 to 10%.

Ye sari jamate ek sath mil jaee tab hi mqm my ek mna ka moqbala ni karsakta hy. I will advise you please go to election website check mqm mna and mpas and their no of votes. Then your eyes will come out oh what I have written sorry. Noone is stronger than MQM.

 

[Jury]

who says MQM getting stronger in karachi?
all those politycal parties can be stronger who has sympathy with the people.
i know MQM killed 3 pukhtoons on 12th may,even though they were MQMR,S.
(1) all the parties in karachi are against MQM. like
1) PTI
2) ANP
3) PPP
4) PML(N)
5) PML(Q)
6) HAZARA QOMI MOMENT
7) SUNNI TEHREEK
8) MUHAJAR QOMI MOMENT
9) JAMAAT-E-ISLAMI
10) JTI
AND MORE.

all these parties have stronger position in karachi.
(2) if we deduct the voters of these parties than the remaining voters will be maximun 5 to 10%.

(1) Not just in Karachi, but, in whole Pakistan.

(2) Yes, we've seen in 1993 election, when MQM boycotted. Also experience the same when MQM boycotted local bodies election in 2001, when constitution was suspended. All the so called champions of democracy took part in it, but, MQM boycotted that election. Hardly 5% people use there right of giving vote. And the the the party who got maximum number of seats in that election on the basis of 5% votes was Jamaat-e-Islami.

Just for education purpose.

In 1992 Army started an operation against MQM, Army blame MQM of hatching conspiracy of Jinnah Pur (No proof of such conspiracy have been presented in any court of law yet), like Bangladesh Jamat e Islami instead of denouncing the false operation actively took part in that operation and play role of informers, thousands of MQM workers were brutally murdered but Jamat e Islami never raise any voice over such brutal killings.

In 1993 General elections held in Pakistan, MQM boycotted the National Assembly elections as the Agencies not allowing MQM to contest on many seats of Karachi, So it was the chance for Jamat e Islami to show their strength and power in Karachi,

Qazi Hussain Ahmed the then Ameer of Jamat e Islami and Munawwar Hassan the current Ameer of Jamat e Islami took part in Elections from Karachi and both Contested for the National Assembly Seats.​

Here is what both of them get from Karachi

Qazi Hussain contested from NA-191 and got 8,452 votes and Lost.

Munawwar Hassan contested from NA-193 and got only 8,550 votes and lost as well.​

The percentage of votes they got from their constituencies are merely 2-3% votes, mind it no MQM in the field, Army on the streets of Karachi doing operation against MQM on the charges of Jinnah Pur and Jamati Munafiqs lost the elections and their Ameer and Secretary General both got only 2-3 % votes.​

So the people who blame MQM especially outsiders who dont live in Karachi and Jamat e Islami mouth Piece on internet, can tell us why people rejected the Jamat e Islami and didnt vote for them when there was no rigging and no MQM contesting the Elections?

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[Jury]

Ye sari jamate ek sath mil jaee tab hi mqm my ek mna ka moqbala ni karsakta hy. I will advise you please go to election website check mqm mna and mpas and their no of votes. Then your eyes will come out oh what I have written sorry. Noone is stronger than MQM.

ELECTION 2008 UPDATEDRESULTS

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National Assembly 19 Seats​

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Name Constituency Area Votes​

01​

S. Tayyab Hussain
NA-219
Hyderabad,Latifabad
1,68,136

02​

Salahuddin
NA-220
Hyderabad City
1,47, 040

03​

Khawaja Sohail
NA-240
Baldia, Pak.Colony
67,807

04​

Iqbal Qadri Adv
NA-241
Orangi Town
93,617

05​

Dr. A. Qadir Khanzada
NA-242
Orangi Town, Qasba
1,47,892

06​

Abdul Waseem
NA-243
Surjani Town
1,67,764

07​

Sh. Salahuddin
NA-244
New and North.Karachi
1,74,044

08​

Farhat Khan
NA-245
North and Nazim Abad
1,49,157

09​

Sufyan Yousuf
NA-246
Federal.B.Area
1,86,933

10​

Dr. Nadeem Ahsan
NA-247
Nazimabad, Liaquatabad
1,68,007

11​

Dr. Farooq Sattar
NA-249
Ranchor Line,Kharadar
1.03,846

12​

Khushbukht Shujaat
NA-250
Defence, Clifton
52,045

13​

Waseem Akhtar
NA-251
Society, Lines Area
83,537

14​

Abdul Rashid Godial
NA-252
PIB, Bhadur Abad
87,280

15​

Hyder Abbas Rizvi
NA-253
Gulshan-e-Iqbal
97.074

16​

Dr. Ayub Shaikh
NA-254
Korangi
1,32,648

17​

Asif Hasnain
NA-255
Landhi
1,57,971

18​

Iqbal M. Ali
NA-256
Shah Faisal
1,23,491

19​

Sajid Ahmed
NA-257
Malir
1,34,448​

 

[HABIB AHMED296]

Dear brothers

I am currently visiting Karachi. This is my practice to take interview to whomever i meet.

We all know MQM and its activities if anyone do not think them TERRORIST then I am sorry to say but he knows nothing or simply Zalim.

I am telling what i found in my current visit just to make other people aware if they are not.

MQM is deliberately creating Putthan/Muhajir issue in Karachi in the name of Taliban. They are doing propaganda that Talibans are coming and we need to kick them out.

But in fact they are removing normal patthans from their businesses and threatening them to close and leave whereever they are.

Here are few events of which I or my brother is witness:

1. They removed one of the very old pathan hotel in Landhi stop no 4. Patthan was standing alone but no one was saying anything while his Rozi was being closed.

2. I used taxi today and start talking to driver he asked me "Brother what is happening here. We are muslims but they (MQM) guys came to me before you and asked if i am Pathan then leave your taxi and run away" Then finally after using his relations with sector incharge he managed to escape. But he was very worried.

I heard other stories as well but I cannot witness as I do not have credible witness.

To write this message is just to find ways to stop this ZULM and let people know what is happening.

Salam

 

[ALI ARYAN]

who says MQM getting stronger in karachi?
all those politycal parties can be stronger who has sympathy with the people.
i know MQM killed 3 pukhtoons on 12th may,even though they were MQMR,S.
all the parties in karachi are against MQM. like
1) PTI
2) ANP
3) PPP
4) PML(N)
5) PML(Q)
6) HAZARA QOMI MOMENT
7) SUNNI TEHREEK
8) MUHAJAR QOMI MOMENT
9) JAMAAT-E-ISLAMI
10) JTI
AND MORE.

all these parties have stronger position in karachi.
if we deduct the voters of these parties than the remaining voters will be maximun 5 to 10%.

Yes Brother you are right these all political parties has strength and very powerful strength which were shown in last all elections held since 1988 to till date. Please specialy concentrate the election held in 1993 when MQM boycotted the election and all these political parties were free to any kind of so called fear of MQM. Also if you have a courage than please post a one thread of 1993 Karachi National Assembly results with each candidate votes. If you cant do that than I know you are not going to accept because of your not acceptance facts mind set.

Haqeqat ko dekho Mano Tasleem karo isi main hum sab ki bhalaye hai.


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[YAHYA87]

Dear brothers

I am currently visiting Karachi. This is my practice to take interview to whomever i meet.

We all know MQM and its activities if anyone do not think them TERRORIST then I am sorry to say but he knows nothing or simply Zalim.

I am telling what i found in my current visit just to make other people aware if they are not.

MQM is deliberately creating Putthan/Muhajir issue in Karachi in the name of Taliban. They are doing propaganda that Talibans are coming and we need to kick them out.

But in fact they are removing normal patthans from their businesses and threatening them to close and leave whereever they are.

Here are few events of which I or my brother is witness:

1. They removed one of the very old pathan hotel in Landhi stop no 4. Patthan was standing alone but no one was saying anything while his Rozi was being closed.

2. I used taxi today and start talking to driver he asked me "Brother what is happening here. We are muslims but they (MQM) guys came to me before you and asked if i am Pathan then leave your taxi and run away" Then finally after using his relations with sector incharge he managed to escape. But he was very worried.

I heard other stories as well but I cannot witness as I do not have credible witness.

To write this message is just to find ways to stop this ZULM and let people know what is happening.

Salam

You are currently visiting Karachi but dear I am living here since birth and saw everything from my own eyes what have happened here since so you know the situation is through few people but I know the situation of karachi since the beginning....I bet that you have never went to areas like Sohrab Goth, Safora Goth, Sikandar Goth, Banarus, Kati Paharh, Pahalwan Goth, Rabia city and other areas because no host in Karachi take their guest from those places because of security and these all areas which i have mentioned is actually ANP areas which have become no go areas for non Pashtuns in Karachi including Punjabis and Sindhis....So you might have asked those question from Chai wala or taxi wala but as you havent went to those areas so your infoemation is weak because if you ask any Karachiite you will get your answer as everyone in Karachi knows that Sohrab Goth is full of illegal weapons coming from outside Karachi and most of those weapons are actually supplied from their as well and ANP mafia is running the whole show in Sohrab goth.....Just on the basis few incident that you saw in gali Muhala you cant make a conclusion about whole Karachi as things here in Kaarachi are different in different areas so instead of just puting up few incident you are blaming whole thing on MQM while ignoring what criminal mafias others are running in this city....Karachi is one of the world's largest city with 20million inhabitants so by putting up the info of some Taxi driver and Chai wala you cant claim that this is happening everywhere....

BTW when Chai wala's hotel got removed did you asked him that if he had chance to open a hotel in Karachi which place he could have decide ANP areas or MQM areas????Ask any Chai wala that question as you are in Karachi to get their input as well because where ever i have seen so far even Pashtuns are reluctant to start their business in ANP areas...

That taxi driver you talked about he said that he had a contact with sector incharge so if MQM was against Pashtun do you expect that he could have asked a sector incharge or or even had any contacts with him???Since that incident their are situation which is developed in reaction to this incident that few MQM workers are watching Pashtuns with suspicion but it doesnt mean that its the same attitude 24/7 365 days in Karachi city and this is a nutural thing because ANP's Pashtuns have fired on MQM areas and also on MQM workers as well so this would be a natural attitude because no one knows that where bullets can come from but this is just suspicion just go to any ANP area you will find complete discrimination against non Pashtuns their as they arent even tolerating a non Pashtuns in their area and its their since 2 years but in MQM areas Pashtuns are freely moving and no one is stopping them(suspicion is another case but no one stopped anyone from moving in MQM areas)...This suspicion of a Pashtun being ANP worker is what ANp is using to get support of Pashtun people in Karachi....

So enjoy your visit and try to understand all sides of the picture in Karachi because even in this forum their are many Karachiite and most of them support MQM and they are not fools to do so their are some reason behind their support and not all Karachiite MQm supporter is a worker of MQM so clean up your mind from stuff like Karachiite supporting MQM means that they are their workers(this is for you and for all those who think that way)...