طالبان کے حملے اور معصوم لوگوں کا قتل

fahid_asif

Senator (1k+ posts)
طالبان کے اعمال اور ان کی سچائی ہی ان کے دعووں کی تردید کرتی ہے۔ وہ یہ دعویٰ کرتے ہیں کہ جان بوجھ کر وہ عام شہریوں پر حملہ نہیں کرتے لیکن در حقیقت ہم اکثر شہریوں پر ان کے حملے اور قتل و غارت کے واقعات دیکھتے اور سنتے ہیں۔ مثلاً موسم بہار کی جنگوں کے دوران طالبان نے شہریوں کو نشانہ نا بنانے کی قسم کھائی تھی۔ پر افسوس کی بات ہے کہ اقوام متحدہ نے مئی کے مہینے کو افغان شہریوں کی حلاکتوں کے حساب سے سب سے بھیانک مہینہ قرار دیا۔ اس ایک ہی مہینے میں386 شہری مارے گئے اور مزید 593 زخمی ہوئے جن میں سے 82 فیصد طالبان اور دیگر دہشت گردوں کے ہاتھوں مارے گئے ۔
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کیا کابل انڑکانٹینینٹل ہوٹل پر ہونے والا حملہ افغانستان کی تاریخی عمارتوں، کاروبار اور عوام پر دہشت تاری کرنے کی ایک اور مثال نہیں؟ جو امن اور معاشرتی قاعدے و قانون کے دشمن یہ طالبان بڑی بے شرمی سے قبول کرتے ہیں؟ ہم اس حادثے میں قتل ہونے والوں کے لیے دعائیں اور ان کے اھل و عیال سے تعزیت کا اظہار کرتے ہیں۔ افسوس ہے کہ ایسے حملے افغانستان اور پاکستان کے ہوٹلوں، حکومتی اداروں، اسکولوں، بازاروں میں پہلے بھی کئی بار ہو چکے ہیں۔
http://tribune.com.pk/story/188043/blast-in-i-8-sector-of-islamabad-live-updates/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13662773
http://www.dawn.com/2011/06/25/three-dead-in-pakistan-police-station-attack.html

http://youtu.be/ITYyW7p7mSU

اسامہ بن لادن کی موت کا بدلہ لینے کے لیے طالبان نے جو مسلسل حملے کیئے ہیں ان میں انھوں نے معصوم بچیوں کو بھی نہیں بخشا۔ سرکاری اہلکاروں کی اطلاع کے مطابق حال ہی میں طالبان نے دھوکے سے ایک ۸ سالہ بچی کو ایک پولیس چوکی تک بم پہنچانے میں ملوث کیا جس کے پھٹنے سے صرف اسی بے گناہ بچی کی ہی جان گئی۔

بے غیرت طالبان کو پاکستانی، افغان اور ایساف کے فوجیوں سے آمنے سامنے جنگ کرنے کی ہمت نہیں، اس لیے وہ معصوم بچوں کو خودکش حملے کرنے کے لیے استعمال کررہے ہیں۔ ان کو اس بات کا ڈر ہے کہ پاکستان اور افغانستان کی آنے والی تعلیم یافتہ نسلیں صرف اپنے ملک کی ترقی نہ کہ ملا عمر، ٹی ٹی پی، یا پھر القائدہ کے لیے کام کریں گی۔ ان کے اسی ڈر کی وجہ سے وہ عام لوگوں پرشدت پسند نظریات، ظلم، قتل و غارت، اور خوف تاری کرتے ہیں۔ اسی سال میں ہی انھوں نے 400 سے زیادہ لوگوں کو خودکش حملوں کے زریعے قتل اور مزید 750 کو زخمی کیا۔

ہارون احمد
ڈی-ای-ٹی یو۔اس۔ سنٹرل کمانڈ

o to ha koun? US ka pilla. tumharay paas isliha aur media donoo hain. phir b afssos k jung haar gaye. ab maafian maang k ja rhay ho mullah Omer se? beita ye badnaam kernay k lie jhooti kahanian gharna oartoon ka kaam ha.
 

InsafianPTI

Minister (2k+ posts)
In muslim countries things dont work like this... do u have any idea how many of Pakistanis went for jihad after US invaded afghanistan? We are brothers to each other and it is our duty to help them and vice versa... their survival is our survival becoz u dont know what game india is playing against Pakistan in afghanistan... u have to think on all aspects of it as we have already lost east Pakistan becoz of their dirty game during 1971 and same is happening in tribal areas and Baluchistan... to tackle India and their motives in afghanistan... we have to support Pakistan friendly govt and from my point of view all this mess created by US is to bring taliban and Pakistan against each other.... u know divide and rule... Plz dont be confused by TTP as Tehreek e Taliban is a branch of CIA not actual taliban and thats how they defame people to win wars... history is full of it...

If this is the case than afghan real talibans should disown TTP and should not corporate with them in anything at all.If you are true than why afghani taliban attacking pakistan army? If they are not against us then why kill our army, their fight is with america they should go and fight americans. As far as i UNDERSTAND PAKISTAN ARMY HAS DONE OPERATIONS only inside pakistan against pakistani taliban, why afghani's are angry? and Also whatever army is doing it is doing so on the basis of government's orders why our own people are hating them, if this TTP is supported by india and america than our army is 100% right to do these operations. I'm only making this point on the bases of the information you have just given.
Yes I know people from pakistan do these sueside attack, but which people? teenage kids, misguided youngsters, poor and uneducated people who get money or have nothing to do else to do. They don't even know who they are fighting for.I know there are people genuinely fighting in afghanistan I think that is different.
Jihad in kashmir and palestine made sense to me but here you have lost me. We talk about islam where Jihad comes from, right? so how exactly sueside bombing is right?kill children and innocent people to make your point, great!!. Even if they win the war what kind of victory is that?
would they be able to write in history how they won and be proud of it?
Prophet (Pbuh) could have kill innocent people if he wanted to to make things easier but did he? He never used coward ways. Instead we proudly read the history about his Ghazwas.
Its the west's theory that in love and war evrything is fair, I never thought that we could use this as we are supposed to follow rules given by islam to do everything in our lives.
They claim to be the leaders in islam but are using a borrowed theory from west which is pathetic and destructive.
anyway I still can't say everything I'm saying is right, Allah knows the best and he will decide in the hereafter who is right and who is wrong.
May he help us all to understand the truth and follow the right path.

Sorry I have just remembered you Balochistan part now, If all taliban are right and are fighting against india and america than how come they don't go and tackle anti pakistani balochi's , taliban don't seem to have any problem with that.
 
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biofilm

MPA (400+ posts)
Thanks. First, I shall remind you again that you have no right to know. you have every right to ask but no right to recieve an answer about who i am even if I am a pakistani. you can ask but it is me who will decide,how on earth you have right to know about me? I am not interested in knowing what your are? and i have reason as it bring impartiality in our judgements. you already decided in your brain that nothing good can come from others like US,EU etc. you have proved my point already.
If you dont like to read other than from pakistan, you are very welcome. you totally missed the point when I say you anti-pakistani, its not about where we come from but these kind of alligations have been made about some journalists as well. i think we all know those journalists but still we keep going with the blame game. now you would say some of them are really pro-americans. I shall say prove it by concrete evidence.I dont know who is centcom and fawad but i know that preoccupied concepts about ordinary people developed because of centcom are never gonna help you. you have every right to not comment on any indian jewish american post( i doubt they read siasatpk) in other word you wanna say that there is nothing good that we can say about those people. I respect your emotions towards Israel but it is not accurate to say because of creation of Israel people lost their lives. although hundreds died in palestine because of that.
Now you are saying talibans are by-product of america and whatever, a guy was saying they puppets. get a life. First decide what they are? I would like you to make a new thread and ask people who they are? we dont even know how they became what they are now ? if the answer is so simple than why so many doubt about them? if they were by-product why paksitan did not discarded them. I have seen what they could do in afganistan and i will not support their ideology ever.
Free masonary? you must be joking? its is not rituals that rule Europe or USA, its money that does the trick. These are veils put between you and people who control the money. there are people practicing it because that unite them and not because those rituals bring any special powers to them. This all defys logic.
I can show you many videos that will prove they are not obstacle but thats not my intenstion. if you think showing videos will prove these theories that, think again...
what my believe is what one can do? enough time has been wasted. It will not make any differe to UK or US even if you prove it trillion time. will it? only thing you are doing is creating a wrong perception. It is very easy to live like this, being a pakistani, on a pakistani forum, moaking US/UK and expecting praise. I can do the same over and over again. cant I? there are many still doing that, yes you are not the only one.....I question does that make any difference? you think all the third world countries are innocent and US and Europe are guilty of all the problems of the world. if thats so than all the good things must also come from US and Europe does not it? This also defys logic again. World is not black and white, its grey my friend.
"but to support regressive movements like talibans harmful for our country" and you say "you see?? You blamed it all on talibans". if you had not been so emtionally charged to show your unshakable support and jumping on to conculsion of a nine year old, you would have had a different thought. i wrote regressive movementS not a movement, now all the blame is not on talibans, happy?
If I say pakistan does not want americans to leave afganistan. can you come up with a reason?
I have every right to ask since this forum is for every one and Religion plays a major role in our lives, as oppose to America where religion and Clergies have been shoved behind closet door. You can ask me anytime you wish


update: also watch this video
[video]http://youtu.be/8n-nT-luFIw[/video]​

 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Thanks. First, I shall remind you again that you have no right to know. you have every right to ask but no right to recieve an answer about who i am even if I am a pakistani. you can ask but it is me who will decide,how on earth you have right to know about me? I am not interested in knowing what your are? and i have reason as it bring impartiality in our judgements. you already decided in your brain that nothing good can come from others like US,EU etc. you have proved my point already.
If you dont like to read other than from pakistan, you are very welcome. you totally missed the point when I say you anti-pakistani, its not about where we come from but these kind of alligations have been made about some journalists as well. i think we all know those journalists but still we keep going with the blame game. now you would say some of them are really pro-americans. I shall say prove it by concrete evidence.I dont know who is centcom and fawad but i know that preoccupied concepts about ordinary people developed because of centcom are never gonna help you. you have every right to not comment on any indian jewish american post( i doubt they read siasatpk) in other word you wanna say that there is nothing good that we can say about those people. I respect your emotions towards Israel but it is not accurate to say because of creation of Israel people lost their lives. although hundreds died in palestine because of that.
Now you are saying talibans are by-product of america and whatever, a guy was saying they puppets. get a life. First decide what they are? I would like you to make a new thread and ask people who they are? we dont even know how they became what they are now ? if the answer is so simple than why so many doubt about them? if they were by-product why paksitan did not discarded them. I have seen what they could do in afganistan and i will not support their ideology ever.
Free masonary? you must be joking? its is not rituals that rule Europe or USA, its money that does the trick. These are veils put between you and people who control the money. there are people practicing it because that unite them and not because those rituals bring any special powers to them. This all defys logic.
I can show you many videos that will prove they are not obstacle but thats not my intenstion. if you think showing videos will prove these theories that, think again...
what my believe is what one can do? enough time has been wasted. It will not make any differe to UK or US even if you prove it trillion time. will it? only thing you are doing is creating a wrong perception. It is very easy to live like this, being a pakistani, on a pakistani forum, moaking US/UK and expecting praise. I can do the same over and over again. cant I? there are many still doing that, yes you are not the only one.....I question does that make any difference? you think all the third world countries are innocent and US and Europe are guilty of all the problems of the world. if thats so than all the good things must also come from US and Europe does not it? This also defys logic again. World is not black and white, its grey my friend.
"but to support regressive movements like talibans harmful for our country" and you say "you see?? You blamed it all on talibans". if you had not been so emtionally charged to show your unshakable support and jumping on to conculsion of a nine year old, you would have had a different thought. i wrote regressive movementS not a movement, now all the blame is not on talibans, happy?
If I say pakistan does not want americans to leave afganistan. can you come up with a reason?

I just read first sentence and ignored. reply is too long.
 

FaisalKh

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Thanks for your reply, so your family is educated but I'm sure they didn't get educated under taliban administration. Yes its fine to stick to your islamic culture and being a girl myself even living in west I manage to do that but it should not be done by torture and that torture should not be a law that taliban had. I have seen women living spending their whole lives inside their homes still doing bad things and claim to be pious cus they stay at home(and I know in some cases it is only because of the lack of the knowledge), and people coming from that culture believe that educated and working women is bad.
If your families are going through crises would you rather stay at home or would you try to do something to help. Our women should be strong enough to bring change when needed and our socities should be supportive of that.
Talibans can have whatever dress code they want i'm not against that, I'm against their extremist attitude towards women's education that we all know and education should not only be able to read arabic without any understanding and it should or I should say it MUST Include SCIENTIFIC education. and it is definitely m0ore important for women than men in my view (I guess if women are educated men will automatically do that, or women will make them to do so like I do with my younger brothers, I make them to study whether they want it or not:)).

Islam did give respect to women and also as much as I know Islam says its compulsory for all men and women to get education even if they need to go to china but what talibans are doing is completely opposite. They don't even want them to go to their local schools forget about going abroad.
Yes streets in our so called islamic country are not safe because of some morons, but should we stop doing the right thing? I feel safer walking down the street here than I did in Pakistan, well actually I never walked down the street alone in pakistan (Crime rate is exceptionally low in this country than in pakistan)but that did not stop me from doing my work.

Those who are abusing women on streets are the ones who don't let their women go out cus they know what is happening, how come taliban never made a rule for that? and that is the only rule they need. Nobody forces you here to do bad things unless you yourself decide to do so, more educated culturaly and religiously you are more you stick up to it, I guess if they educate women they will have less problems there.
Tell them stop blowing up schools and make their streets safer for everyone and then I'll favour them.

(I've mentioned this issue because I can only think of this as a reason people use when they don't let their girls go out, I can't see any justification whatsoever in islam for their actions against women)

If you want to make a rule to wear burkah do so but before that YOU MUST MAKE a rule where education is compulsory as well, and if somebody doesnot get educated that person should be punished, I will definietly favour any sort of punishment it does not matter how hard it is. If u nwant to follow islam follow it completely than don't pick up the things that ONLY SUIT MEN.
lastly I do not say things as a reaction to what media says, some of my information does come from there but I have my personal experiences, all the things I have said above are facts and of course media comes up with lots of stories about it and I do know they are not all true and I'm not that stupid that I'll believe everything people tell me. Even if I get an information from my dear ones I always double check it, so I'm not that naive.
Jazak Allah

Sorry to say i could not read ur lengthy post as i m not used to it and i hope u did not take it serious:) ... Well u cant say torture to it as it is the need of the society and culture... for example very few kids go to school willingly but majority of them are forced to do so it is for their benefit so u cant say it is toruture... same is with following our culture.... for example their are many sick minded people in the society who upon seeing a girl or woman, starts chanting on them and teasing them... but if ur face and body is covered their are less chances that they would do so... i hope u got the point... u are dragging taliban again and again in this made up story that they are against woman and women education... i could not find anything credible in this news as my heart dont believe on this... its by media and u know who owns it.... it is a useless debate as only Allah (SWT) knows best what is right and what is wrong and everybody has to answer what they have been doing and are doing...
 

FaisalKh

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
If this is the case than afghan real talibans should disown TTP and should not corporate with them in anything at all.If you are true than why afghani taliban attacking pakistan army? If they are not against us then why kill our army, their fight is with america they should go and fight americans. As far as i UNDERSTAND PAKISTAN ARMY HAS DONE OPERATIONS only inside pakistan against pakistani taliban, why afghani's are angry? and Also whatever army is doing it is doing so on the basis of government's orders why our own people are hating them, if this TTP is supported by india and america than our army is 100% right to do these operations. I'm only making this point on the bases of the information you have just given.
Yes I know people from pakistan do these sueside attack, but which people? teenage kids, misguided youngsters, poor and uneducated people who get money or have nothing to do else to do. They don't even know who they are fighting for.I know there are people genuinely fighting in afghanistan I think that is different.
Jihad in kashmir and palestine made sense to me but here you have lost me. We talk about islam where Jihad comes from, right? so how exactly sueside bombing is right?kill children and innocent people to make your point, great!!. Even if they win the war what kind of victory is that?
would they be able to write in history how they won and be proud of it?
Prophet (Pbuh) could have kill innocent people if he wanted to to make things easier but did he? He never used coward ways. Instead we proudly read the history about his Ghazwas.
Its the west's theory that in love and war evrything is fair, I never thought that we could use this as we are supposed to follow rules given by islam to do everything in our lives.
They claim to be the leaders in islam but are using a borrowed theory from west which is pathetic and destructive.
anyway I still can't say everything I'm saying is right, Allah knows the best and he will decide in the hereafter who is right and who is wrong.
May he help us all to understand the truth and follow the right path.

Sorry I have just remembered you Balochistan part now, If all taliban are right and are fighting against india and america than how come they don't go and tackle anti pakistani balochi's , taliban don't seem to have any problem with that.

How u know that afghan taliban owns TTP? they have long denied and said they do not attack civilians while u know what TTP is doing in Pakistan?
 

InsafianPTI

Minister (2k+ posts)
Sorry to say i could not read ur lengthy post as i m not used to it and i hope u did not take it serious:) ... Well u cant say torture to it as it is the need of the society and culture... for example very few kids go to school willingly but majority of them are forced to do so it is for their benefit so u cant say it is toruture... same is with following our culture.... for example their are many sick minded people in the society who upon seeing a girl or woman, starts chanting on them and teasing them... but if ur face and body is covered their are less chances that they would do so... i hope u got the point... u are dragging taliban again and again in this made up story that they are against woman and women education... i could not find anything credible in this news as my heart dont believe on this... its by media and u know who owns it.... it is a useless debate as only Allah (SWT) knows best what is right and what is wrong and everybody has to answer what they have been doing and are doing...

Its good to cover up, again I'm not against that like I said before, but why only women have to do the right thing and not the men (and why do we see this sick kind of attitude in muslim society, it hardly happens here). Yes we should dress up decent but to restrict dress code just to one thing is wrong i.e. shuttle something....burkah (sorry I don't clearly know the name), I personally think they went too far even saudi don't have that strick rules, although saudi's have stupid rules e.g. ban on women driving (sick mentality). Anyway why burkah is too important and education isn't, why sacrifice eduaction for anything, that is my point. I'm not saying have one and not the other.


When I say 'Punishment' I Really don't mean physical and sexual torture and Kill somebody and I'm not only talking about afghans this practice s also present in pakistani society as well and I know that myself that it does.

It is a made up story, I hear stories that they blow up schools in tribal region all the time, just heard one news last week, are you saying that I should not believe any news at all that comes out, I AM SORRY A CAN'T BE YOU.

News can be wrong but not all of them are, and we should have guts to accept our problems and should try to solve them.
 

InsafianPTI

Minister (2k+ posts)
I just read first sentence and ignored. reply is too long.

so you bother to have a theory and back it up with your comments whether they are right or wrong but don't want to read other side's logic. If you can't be bothered to answer your fellow pakistani how would you justify yourself to the rest pof the world.

Maybe there is a flaw in you logic and thinking then that makes you shy away from it.
 

FaisalKh

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Its good to cover up, again I'm not against that like I said before, but why only women have to do the right thing and not the men (and why do we see this sick kind of attitude in muslim society, it hardly happens here). Yes we should dress up decent but to restrict dress code just to one thing is wrong i.e. shuttle something....burkah (sorry I don't clearly know the name), I personally think they went too far even saudi don't have that strick rules, although saudi's have stupid rules e.g. ban on women driving (sick mentality). Anyway why burkah is too important and education isn't, why sacrifice eduaction for anything, that is my point. I'm not saying have one and not the other.


When I say 'Punishment' I Really don't mean physical and sexual torture and Kill somebody and I'm not only talking about afghans this practice s also present in pakistani society as well and I know that myself that it does.

It is a made up story, I hear stories that they blow up schools in tribal region all the time, just heard one news last week, are you saying that I should not believe any news at all that comes out, I AM SORRY A CAN'T BE YOU.

News can be wrong but not all of them are, and we should have guts to accept our problems and should try to solve them.


U r right... when they attack by drone... I only read in newspaper that so and so terrorists killed in the attack... have u heard anything like women and children got killed? How u could be so sure that taliban are blowing schools and what would they get from it? I told u dont mix TTP with taliban as TTP is a branch of CIA and taliban are fighting against US in afghanistan? I never heard of taliban blowing schools? Just give it a thought who is getting benefit from all these situation? Why our people are so behind? it is becoz they dont have chance to get proper education and why are u so biased that these people blew only girls schools? did not u come across a news where they blew boys schools and colleges? I neither forces someone nor would i to believe whatever i wrote as I said only Allah (SWT) knows best and he is the best judge...
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
so you bother to have a theory and back it up with your comments whether they are right or wrong but don't want to read other side's logic. If you can't be bothered to answer your fellow pakistani how would you justify yourself to the rest pof the world.

Maybe there is a flaw in you logic and thinking then that makes you shy away from it.

naaah you and biofilm, two americans, are too perfect for me. I am a simple peace and Pakistan loving man, and a Muslim too. You, Americans, are master of deception hence I can compete. :P
 

Scorpion

Banned
speak for yourself.. Thats the problem,its pakistanis who have taken oath to slove all the problems of Islam? let me ask you why only pakistanis have to fight for all the muslims of the world? and first respect humanity then other things because if you judge people by their religion,which religion you are talking about. Talibans represent islam? if so why we have to protest their acts of violence? there is somethign terribly wrong...

My brother . . . .

I am speaking for my self as a Pakistani and that is the reason that I am concerned with what happening in Afghanistan . . . . Because the last thing I wanted is the presence of Indians in Afghanistan after the American Withdrawal . . . . . And more Arabs are fighting through out the world than the Pakistanis . . . . And it is this resistance that is the reason of the American defeats in Afghanistan and Iraq . . . And respect for the humanity demands that one should respect all types of resistances against imperialism irrespective of religion . . . . And I support every one ie Koreans, Vietnamese, Afghanis every one . . . . .
And Taliban definitely represent Islam but there resistance is their universal right and also has the cover of UN and Geneva Convention . . . . .
And I hav nt protested their any act of violence as they are the victim party and fighting a defensive war for freedom . . .
 

US CENTCOM

Councller (250+ posts)
سازشی نظریات کے پیچھے ایک تنازعہ یہ بھی ہے کہ آخرکار ایک سازشی نظریہ دوسرے کو مسترد کرتا ہے۔ اس فارم پر طالبان کے موضوعات پر جو سازشی نظریات پیش کیے گئے ہیں وہ ایک طرف تو امریکہ پر طالبان کو مالی امداد دینے ​​اور ان کی حمایت کرنے کا الزام لگاتے ہیں، تو دوسری طرف طالبان کو مغربی ممالک کے خلاف جہاد کرنے والے مجاہد قرار یتے ہیں۔ کیا یہ دونوں سازشی نظریات ایک دوسرے کی تردید کرتے ہیں؟

... americans hold the media so whatever they portray about taliban people going to believe but now same americans trying hard to do dialogues with taliban becoz taliban is kicking their butts in afghanistan.... "
امریکہ کا پوری دنیا کے میڈیا پر اتنا اختیار نہیں کہ باقی دنیا امریکہ کے لیے جھوٹ بولے، باشمول پاکستان کے، دنیا بھر کا میڈیا طالبان کی حقیقت دکھا رہا ہے اور طالبان کے ہمدرد اس میڈیا کے جھوٹے پراپیگینڈے ہی پھیلاتے ہیں. انٹرنیٹ پہ تلاش کرنے سے آپ کو امریکہ سے ہم نظر گفتگو کرنے والے اور ہمارے خلاف بولنے والے لوگوں کے درمیان بحث سے لوگوں کے جذبات کا پتہ چلتا ہے، ان تمام بحث کو ہم خوش آمدید کہتے ہیں کیونکہ ہم آزادی کے اظہار پر یقین رکھتے ہیں، جو حقیقت کی بنیاد پر کہی جائے نہ کہ بے بنیاد پراپیگنڈہ پر۔
Libyan army is terrorist becoz they did not bow to US agenda and soon u will hear about Pak army and ISI if they confront america... and if u really wanna see a puppet then dont go far look at our Pakistan and u will find a puppet govt working for US agenda against Pakistanis...
پاکستان اور لیبیا کی فوج کے درمیان کوئی موازنہ نہیں ہے۔ پاکستانی فوج دہشت گردی کی اس جنگ میں امریکہ کا ساتھ اس لیے نہیں دے رہی کیونکہ یہ امریکہ چاہتا ہے بلکہ اس لیے دہشت گردوں سے لڑ رہی ہے کیونکہ ان کے خاتمے سے ہی پاکستان میں امن و سلامتی آسکتی ہے جو ٹی ٹی پی کی وجہ سے جا چکی ہے۔
No America did not use them in fact they used America... It was Russia who attacked Afghanistan not Taliban... My point was that during Russian war Taliban were hero of the world etc... But now when they are fighting against USA they are terrorists? What kind of hypocrisy is that? We should not look at things from USA's perspective, we are Muslim and Pakistani, we have our own identity we should look for our own interests...
سوویت یونین کے خلاف جنگ کے دوران مجاہدین کی مدد کرنا امریکہ، پاکستان اور افغانستان کے قومی مفادات اور اس حلکے میں امن برقرار رکھنے کے لیے لازمی تھا۔ اس لیے پاکستان اور امریکہ نے مل کر سوویت یونین کو ہرانے میں افغانستان کی مدد کی تھی۔ کیا اس کا مطلب یہ ہے کہ دونوں ممالک طالبان کی حمایت کرتے ہیں؟ نہیں، کیونکہ اس وقت طالبان جیسے گروہ کا نام و نشان نہیں تھا۔ کسی کو یہ معلوم نہ تھا کہ طالبان جیسا گروہ بنے گا، جو افغانستان پر قبضہ کرکے وہاں غیر ملکی دہشت گردوں کو پناہ دیں گے اور اپنے ہی لوگوں پر قتل و غارت تاری کر دیں گے۔ یہ تو سویت جنگ کے بعد جب ہم اس علاقے سے نکل گئے تب مجاہدین کے اپنے درمیان جنگ شروی ہو گئی جس کے نتیجے سے طالبان، ناردرن الائنس جیسے گروہ بنے۔

میں شکریہ ادا کرنا چاہتا ہوں ان فارم ممبران کا جنھوں نے ہماری اس پوسٹ کو پڑھنے کے لیے وقت نکالا۔ اُمید ہے کہ میں اپنی آنے والی پوسٹ میں جتنا ہو سکے، آپ سب کے سوالوں کا جواب دینے کی کوشش کروں گا۔

ہارون احمد
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MYCOUNTRY

Minister (2k+ posts)
I am a pakistani but I have a different view of our problems. this is a very common tatic here in siasatpk..if you dont like someones views just blam him anti-pakistani, pro-jewish, pro-american, indian spy, anti-islam etc etc. wonder why there are thousands fo people like you protesting passively and doing nothing but to support regressive movements like talibans harmful for our country. you have no right yo ask me what i am even though ive told you.
U R Pakistan just like Hussain Haqqani...........Or a so called leberal fascist ,Or Qadyani .............................But what ever u r , you are talking nonsense, just to make happy your master USA........................Same you hate Taliban, we hate USA.
 

biofilm

MPA (400+ posts)
As i said before, if you disagree with popular ideas just blame them pro-US or Jewish or worst Qadyani. can you define liberal fascist? you heard it from talkshows where people dont even know what is that? my comment made perfect sense and this is why you are replying. speak for yourself dont include other without consent.
U R Pakistan just like Hussain Haqqani...........Or a so called leberal fascist ,Or Qadyani .............................But what ever u r , you are talking nonsense, just to make happy your master USA........................Same you hate Taliban, we hate USA.
 

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