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Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
(hmm) Business partnership between Shaitan Malik and Bainazeer and Division of the assets of the business is the Trump card in the hands of Shaitan Malik.
 

Night-Hawk

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: ایک اور ڈاکٹر ذوا لفقار مرزا ؟؟؟ - حامد میر

Kaunsa Dr Amir ??? Irani hkoomat ka ajent??? Can somebody elaborate?
 

mehwish_ali

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: پورا سچ - نجم سیٹھی

سیٹھی صاحب سوال کرتے ہیں:۔
تاہم ایک قابل بحث سوال تو موجود رہے گا کہ کراچی کے مسائل اور اس ملک کی سیاسی صورت حال میں ایم کیو ایم کے بارے میں زرداری صاحب کی رائے درست ہے یا مرزا صاحب کی؟

اگر سیٹھی صاحب "عقل" سے کام لیں تو زرداری اور مرزا کو چھوڑ کر یہ حقیقت دیکھیں کی:۔


اس بارے میں اہلیان کراچی کی رائے سب سے زیادہ درست ہے۔


اس بارے میں کراچی کی بزنس کمیونٹی کی رائے سب سے زیادہ صحیح ہے۔
 

famamdani

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: پورا سچ - نجم سیٹھی

سیٹھی صاحب سوال کرتے ہیں:۔
تاہم ایک قابل بحث سوال تو موجود رہے گا کہ کراچی کے مسائل اور اس ملک کی سیاسی صورت حال میں ایم کیو ایم کے بارے میں زرداری صاحب کی رائے درست ہے یا مرزا صاحب کی؟

اگر سیٹھی صاحب "عقل" سے کام لیں تو زرداری اور مرزا کو چھوڑ کر یہ حقیقت دیکھیں کی:۔


اس بارے میں اہلیان کراچی کی رائے سب سے زیادہ درست ہے۔


اس بارے میں کراچی کی بزنس کمیونٹی کی رائے سب سے زیادہ صحیح ہے۔


2 crore ppl..............in karachi..................men , women, youth, child,
jobless, worker, labour, street shop owner, shop owner, businessmen, factory owner, student, house wives,.....................

and now we must conclussion..............howmuch business comunity.............and which level businessmen........its only chamber of commerce members, or shop keeper or street shop keeper also counting in this catogary..............and dont forgate women..... girls..... student and also youth from boys.............student...........worker........jobsholder..........and then can we see howmuch comeout ratio................................what he all need:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::?????????????????????????
 

magic.magic

Voter (50+ posts)
Re: ایک اور ڈاکٹر ذوا لفقار مرزا ؟؟؟ - حامد میر

Kya drama bazi hai. Kahan gayee awam. Kaha gayee awam ki security, roti, kapra, makan, taleem. Dunya key mamalik agey ja rahey hain. Taraqqi ho rahi hai, aur hamari poori qaum ko en kameeno nay kis chakkar mein laga diya. Zulfi ko dekho, bari bari batain ch** raha hai par us ki personal life dekho, kya ayyashi, sharab (jo khud admit karta hai) ayyashi, loot maar, aslaha, extra juidicial killing har cheez mein involved hai aur bari bari batain karta hai aur mulk mein tafarqa phaila raha hai. Mushi bhai was much better and during his time all financial, economic, demographic and growth indicators were strong and Pakistan was the darling for investors and I personally oversaw many investments in Pakistan from Gulf but now, no one is interested as gradually the country is becoming Somalia due to these Democratic rulers. ARMY ARMY ARMY, GENERAL GENERAL GENERAL AND MUSHI BHI OR HIS KIND OF HONEST GENERAL WHO IS TOUGH, STRONG AND COMES WTIH THE INTENTION OF ELIMINATING ALL THESE KAMEENA POLITICIANS AND TURN PAKISTAN AGAIN AS THE MOST GROWING NATION OF THE WORLD IS THE SOLUTION.
 

shaheer

Minister (2k+ posts)
yeh sab ek azaaab ki soorat hyn jo pakistan per hamari apni wajah se hyn.zardari,shaitan malik,altaf,mirza,nawaz,asfand,chaudharies..........sab kameeenay haraam khor hyn.jin ka na koi mazhab ha na mulk ha.corruption in ka eman ha.
ek doosray ka sab kuch expose kr diya hua ha in logon ne.lakin awaaam ko phir bhi samjh nhe aati.
 

canadian

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Zulfiqar Mirzas Gunshots Loose Cannon or Policy?

Zulfiqar Mirzas Gunshots Loose Cannon or Policy?

August 30, 2011
By Yousuf Nazar
Dr. Zulfiqar Mirzas explosive and unprecedented press conference was the first of its kind in Pakistans history. As dumb-founded millions watched, it was the probably the first time a senior provincial minister accused a federal interior minister and a top member of his own party of being a killer, liar, and a traitor. Dr. Mirza lambasted the MQM in a way no politician has done openly on national TV. What Mirza said was hardly surprising. It is common talk in the living rooms, bedrooms, restaurants, and the streets of Karachi. But why now? Mirzas attack on the MQM was hardly surprising although the allegations about treason were but what was behind his vicious attacks on Rehman Malik?It is irrelevant whether he is a political clown or a crusdaer or a backer of gangsters, as alleged by his political opponents. The charges he levelled are grave. If they are false, he should be held accountable. If there is some truth in them, the law must take its course. But neither is likely to happen because Pakistani state is a criminal enterprise and criminals do not settle matters in courts. 56 years- old Dr. Zulifiqar Mirza (ZM) has been a close friend of Asif Zardari since their secondary school days in Cadet College Petaro in the 1970s . He is son of a former Supreme Court judge Zafar Hussain Mirza and comes from a distinguished and land-owning Sindhi family noted for its role in literature, judiciary, and education. Mirza was discharged from Pakistan Army service after Ziaul Haqs sham referendum of 1984 in which he did not cast his vote. When Benazir Bhutto came to power in 1988, Mirzas business career took off as Asif Zardari was generous in taking care of his old friends. His first venture was a sugar mill, courtesy Asif. Mirza and Asif share more than their high school days. Both are proud and tough macho characters with a tribal sense of honour. No less significant is the fact that both are pakka shias. This also brought Mirza closer to Benazir who used to visit majalis and imambargahs during Moharram. Mirza makes no secret of the fact that he owes entire his own political and business career to Asif Zardari. Some have questioned who speaks for Zardari? Rehman Malik or Zulifiqar Mirza? It may sound odd to say this after Mirzas marathon press conference during which he resigned from all government and party offices, but ZM is closer to Asif than Rehman Malik ever was or ever will be. In fact, Asif may have turned to his old buddy to bail him out of the tight spot he finds himself in and may have used this trump card to kill many birds with a single shot from a double barrel gun. A little away from the medias focus, the most critical development in the recent months in the backdrop of the mayhem in Karachi may have been the progress made by the Scotland Yard (Londons police) into the murder of MQMs onetime secretary general Imran Farooq whose 1999 escape from Karachi to London was allegedly facilitated by the British secret service MI6. It is alleged that Imran Farooqs murder was carried out by hirelings of the MQM in Karachi. According to these press reports, two men were arrested at Karachi airport a few days ago in connection with the killing of MQM leader Imran Farooq in London in September last year. According to DAWN and the Nation, the suspects are said to be affiliated to a political party.Officials privy to details told a DAWN correspondent that the arrested men had travelled to UK on student visa, stabbed Dr Farooq to death and then flown to Sri Lanka.They were apprehended soon after they came out of the airport in Karachi after having travelled from Colombo. It is learnt that they were arrested on a tip from British intelligence and other sources. It is almost certain that the UK government would demand that the murder suspects be handed over because the crime took place in London. Altaf Husain has been mysteriously ill and hospitalized since.It would not be surprising that the real reason for the dramatic escalation in violence in Karachi during the recent months has to do with Imran Farooqs murder case, notwithstanding the turbulent and often bloody history of ethnic relations in Karachi which has grown beyond an ethnic issue into a war of the mafias protected by the politicians, some of whom are courted by the Western powers. Just look at this graph (source: DAWN) and dramatic escalation in violence in the number of killings in July and August. It has been an old technique of the MQM when cornered, paralyse Karachi. This is what has happened for last twenty five years. Governments have come and gone but the MQM has continued to rule the streets of Karachi. However it seems that Zardaris patience with the MQMs never ending game of blackmail, threats, securing concessions, and cutting deals may have reached its limits. He knows that he cant face the MQM on the streets despite the anguish his policy of reconciliation has caused among the more militant and nationalist elements of the Sind PPP. Qaim Ali Shah has been the face of that policy. Zardari still wants to bring the MQM back into the government and win a majority in the Senate elections next March but on his own terms. He has till now used Rehman Malik (who shares with Altaf Hussain a close relationship with MI6) to do that. But the investigation and the arrest of the alleged killers of Imran Farooq may have given Zardari a trump card with which to re-negotiate with the MQM. Furious, the London mafia apparently decided to strike back with even more violence. Much was made of Zulifiqar Mirzas provocative language and unfortunate remarks but the history of violence in Karachi did not start last month. MQM has always found excuses to flex its muscle and demonstrate its street power. This time, it is also facing serious resistance from other armed gangs backed by political parties including the PPP, ANP, and others.Recently, Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry took suo moto action on Karachis killings and a five-member Supreme Court (SC) bench started hearings in Karachi. Faced with Mirzas grave allegations against the MQM and its leader Altaf Hussain, it would now be impossible for the court not to call Zulifiqar Mirza who seems to have enough material to present the SC with difficult choices. So far, the PPP has been the sole target of SCs selective accountability and Justice Chaudhry has played more to the galleries than deliver justice. He may now have to play on the back foot at a time when the NRO is history and Pakistan faces grave existential threats.While the murder investigation of Imran Farooq, SC hearings, and the need to shore-up the PPPs rural vote-bank may have prompted Zardari to turn to one of his most trusted and loyal friends to spill the beans, why the diatribe against Rehman Malik?Rehman Malik is a special character and a colourful operator. As a former police officer, he gained influence by getting close to Begum Ziaul Haq. His former bosses say he would do anything to please Mrs. Zia. A former IG Police described Rehman as Mrs. Zias glorified orderly. Rehman rose to the rank of deputy director FIA during BBs second term as Prime Minister. BB once remarked in the presence of some top aides that you need a thief to catch a thief when questioned about her decision to send Rehman Malik on a sensitive mission. Rehman Malik became closer to the US intelligence agencies for his supportive role in the capture of terrorist Ramzi Yousef and his extradition to the US in 1995. Ramzi had also been accused of conspiring to kill Benazir Bhutto. Rehman Malik thus became closer to BB as an additional Director General of the Federal Investigation Agency. But this association cost him his job when Nawaz Sharif came to power after BBs dismissal in 1996. It is alleged by some close relatives of BB that it was Rehman Malik who got BB involved in setting up companies (e,g. Petroline) in Sharjah (in 2000-2001) that were later named in the oil-for-food program scandal - in a United Nations report and in the money laundering cases in Valencia in Spain. Rehman Maliks fellow director of this company, Ali Hasan Jafri was married to Benazirs maternal relative Laley, daughter of Begum Fakhri Gulzar. According to Ali Jafri, getting involved with Rehman Malik was a mistake on BBs and his part. Rehman Malik later made millions in other business ventures and established himself in London despite ongoing court cases in Europe against him that continued till 2006-2007 before they were suddenly dropped or not pursued further.In fact, the US used the threat of constraining her overseas bank accounts to accede to its terms when Americans were trying to broker a deal between BB and Musharraf in 2006-2007. According to Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and best selling author (The Way of the World) Ron Suskind, A US official let her understand that the United States could, if need be, constrain her assets. Rehman Malik was the only non-family person closely involved in some of the bank accounts cases she was implicated. Ron Suskind also confirmed that the US intelligence agencies did electronic eavesdropping to monitor BBs movements and conversations. Rehman Malik is also believed to be close to MI5 and MI6. When someone asked Pakistans Ambassador to the US Husain Haqqani (it was in April 2008) as to why did BB keep Rehman Malik so close during negotiations with Musharraf and thereafter, Husain Haqqani quoted a famous line from Godfather movie: You keep your friends close and your enemies closer.Was Rehman Malik the man through whom the British government dealt with BB? It should be noted that it was the UK that initiated the reconciliation talks that culminated in the infamous NRO deal.But was he also the man who was used by the UK and US secret services to keep tabs on BB and deliver warnings? His behaviour has been very suspicious, to say the very least. He escaped to his house, instead of protecting BB when she was assassinated near Liaqat Bagh Rawalpindi on the 27[SUP]th[/SUP] December. A noted journalist and TV anchor, Mazhar Abbas, told me he ran into Rehman Malik around the midnight of the 27[SUP]th[/SUP] and 28[SUP]th[/SUP] at the Regents Hotel in Karachi with no explanation as to what he was doing there when BBs dead body was still lying in the hospital in Rawalpindi?Apparently, not only Rehman Malik knows too much but is also backed by powerful foreign agencies. What else could explain his mysterious and inexplicable rise to the role of a power broker during BB-UK-US negotiations, his stay in London, his business ventures, despite court cases in Europe implicating him in money laundering? Now, could it be that the wily and cunning Zardari also wants to get rid of this international baggage that came with an international deal? Only his old school buddy Zulfi Mirza could have been trusted and taken into confidence if that was part of the plot. One sacrifice by a loyal and devoted friend and look at the potential results: MQM rejoins government, Rehman Malik is cut to size and sidelined, and PPP gains a majority in Senate. It wont be the first time Mirza would be repaying his debts to Asif. He did it before after BB was thrown out in 1996 and Asif was charged in several cases. ZM stood by him. It is unlikely that Mirza has ditched him. He is just playing the loyal friend he always has been.But in doing so, he has made grave allegations against Altaf Hussain and Rehman Malik; the charges of no less than treason and murder. It remains to be seen what would be response of the Supreme Court and the Army generals. Or they too are constrained as Ron Suskind put it to describe how the US blackmailed BB. There is little doubt that Rehman Malik reflects that face of the US policy if Pakistan survives. The US would like a docile government that fights it terror war. But if Pakistan falls apart, God forbid, Altaf Hussain is definitely an important part of American contingeny plans. (http://www.stateofpakistan.org/zulfiqar-mirzas-gun-shots-loose-cannon-or-policy)
 

famamdani

Minister (2k+ posts)
(hmm) Business partnership between Shaitan Malik and Bainazeer and Division of the assets of the business is the Trump card in the hands of Shaitan Malik.

you have rise the point.................................MUNSHI AUR BIWI......................dono jaldi nahi badle jaate businessmen ka pehla usool........................
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
you have rise the point.................................MUNSHI AUR BIWI......................dono jaldi nahi badle jaate businessmen ka pehla usool........................
Zara khul kay baat karein yahan sab apnay hein ... ... ... aap koi MQM kay khilaf nahi baat kar rahay keh (naseeb-e-Dushmnaan) target killing ka dar ho(serious)
 

famamdani

Minister (2k+ posts)
Zara khul kay baat karein yahan sab apnay hein ... ... ... aap koi MQM kay khilaf nahi baat kar rahay keh (naseeb-e-Dushmnaan) target killing ka dar ho(serious)

its very simple ZARDARI...............wife its not change but iliminet.............and Munshi..........................hold till now........:lol::lol::lol:........................its a businessmen Mark............................

ISSA PEER NA MOOSA PEER

SUB SE BARA HE PAISA PEER
 

ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Zulfiqar Mirzas Gunshots Loose Cannon or Policy?

I would only believe when ZM either refutes or approves all the above blames, but the fact of the matter that if a man comes forward and accepts all his wrong doings and asks for forgiveness, Allah forgives him as long as he promises not to repeats these same acts again.

So I would say to all you nay Sayers. to give him a chance, he may be the one Pakistani People are waiting for to fix the crooks, the mighty ghundas,and the liers.

May Allah S.W.T. help Pakistan and its people. Ameen.

(jhanda)
 

alibaba222

Minister (2k+ posts)
sab seytan apna apna kehal kehal rahye he,aawam tu shoro din say mer rahee he,oor jab tak nahee uthye gee isee tarah merti rahye gee