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Aristo

Minister (2k+ posts)
یہ جنگ طالبان نے لڑی یاں پاکستان نے؟

اس جنگ کا نقصان پاکستانی عوام کو ہوا یا افغان عوام کو؟

اس جنگ سے فائدہ کسے حاصل ہوا امریکا کو پاکستان کو یا افغانستان کو؟

اس جنگ کا اصلی ہدف کون تھا؟

اور اب افغان افواج نے مزاحمت کیوں نہی کی؟
زرہ سوچیں
 

Kavalier

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Simple answers are, USA got its objective what they wanted, they still have presence in the region and now they will have a favourable government in form of Talban who will do the same shit which they did together with Amreeka during 80's. New enemies are China and Iran, and most probably Russia as well.
 

Aristo

Minister (2k+ posts)
Q #1... Ans: Both
Q # 2... Pakistani
Q # 3... Karzai, Ghani and their accomplice clowns
Q # 4... Pakistan
Q # 5... Inept, incapable.

I hope it helps!
Doctor Sb yeh jo taliban ny itna sakoon say capture kar liya sab preplan darama lagta hy Afghaniyo nay yan To America ko ditch kiya hay yan America nay Khud Taliban say yeh deal ke the k humaray janay k bad Afghanistan tumhara otherwise itna easy capture wali baat samjh Main nahi ati
 

Dr Adam

President (40k+ posts)
Doctor Sb yeh jo taliban ny itna sakoon say capture kar liya sab preplan darama lagta hy Afghaniyo nay yan To America ko ditch kiya hay yan America nay Khud Taliban say yeh deal ke the k humaray janay k bad Afghanistan tumhara otherwise itna easy capture wali baat samjh Main nahi ati
Eik aur nuqtay per bhee ghor karain keh jab pandrah saal pehlay amreekioun aur bhartioun nay afghani fauj bnanay kaa ailaan keea tha uus waqat hamary gumnam heros nay taliban kay saath milker apnay aala terbiat yaafta pak main mahajreen camps main rehnay walay afghani aur Pak pashtoon lerkay hazaroun kee taadad main afghan fauj main bharti kerwa deeay thay jo tarqqi kertay kertay aala ohdoun tak pohanch ga'aye. Rank and file kay fauji apnay commander kay hukam per chaltay hain. Agar commander hee goli naa chalanay kaa hukam day gaa tow phir...... aagay aap kow poori baat samajh main aa jani chaheeay.
Iss waqat baharti chobees ghantay aesay hee pagal kuttoun ki tarah moonh say jhaag nahi oogal rahay. Jab tak unhain hosh aaya taliban uus waqat tak baghair goli chalaye sadarti mahal main poohnch chukay hooaye thay.
Rest is the history!
 

Aristo

Minister (2k+ posts)
Eik aur nuqtay per bhee ghor karain keh jab pandrah saal pehlay amreekioun aur bhartioun nay afghani fauj bnanay kaa ailaan keea tha uus waqat hamary gumnam heros nay taliban kay saath milker apnay aala terbiat yaafta pak main mahajreen camps main rehnay walay afghani aur Pak pashtoon lerkay hazaroun kee taadad main afghan fauj main bharti kerwa deeay thay jo tarqqi kertay kertay aala ohdoun tak pohanch ga'aye. Rank and file kay fauji apnay commander kay hukam per chaltay hain. Agar commander hee goli naa chalanay kaa hukam day gaa tow phir...... aagay aap kow poori baat samajh main aa jani chaheeay.
Iss waqat baharti chobees ghantay aesay hee pagal kuttoun ki tarah moonh say jhaag nahi oogal rahay. Jab tak unhain hosh aaya taliban uus waqat tak baghair goli chalaye sadarti mahal main poohnch chukay hooaye thay.
Rest is the history!
ALLAH karain ap ke baat sauch ho aour mera mafroza galat ALLAH humaray watan ko har kisi qisam k dushmano say mehfooz he rakhain Ameen
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Eik aur nuqtay per bhee ghor karain keh jab pandrah saal pehlay amreekioun aur bhartioun nay afghani fauj bnanay kaa ailaan keea tha uus waqat hamary gumnam heros nay taliban kay saath milker apnay aala terbiat yaafta pak main mahajreen camps main rehnay walay afghani aur Pak pashtoon lerkay hazaroun kee taadad main afghan fauj main bharti kerwa deeay thay jo tarqqi kertay kertay aala ohdoun tak pohanch ga'aye. Rank and file kay fauji apnay commander kay hukam per chaltay hain. Agar commander hee goli naa chalanay kaa hukam day gaa tow phir...... aagay aap kow poori baat samajh main aa jani chaheeay.
Iss waqat baharti chobees ghantay aesay hee pagal kuttoun ki tarah moonh say jhaag nahi oogal rahay. Jab tak unhain hosh aaya taliban uus waqat tak baghair goli chalaye sadarti mahal main poohnch chukay hooaye thay.
Rest is the history!
You give too much creedence to the Afghan Army, you think they were so disciplined even if we are to believe your theory. Fact is majority of then joined the Army just as job to earn money to feed their families in a country with almost no opportunitiesnd where the Army was paying good money and in dollars I believe. None of them took the army seriously, there was no national pride or will to defend the country also 80% of them are illiterate how do you expect to use sophisticated weapons, tech, read maps, send communication, positions when majority of them can't read or write.

I actually know and have talked to American soldiers who were in Afghanistan and training them. They say these afghans were like monkeys, couldn't follow simple orders, extremely slow learners, extreme lack of any discipline, always non serious and joking around with each other. They knew these monkeys weren't learning anything and they were just wasting their time trying to train them.

Also they didn't trust them at all and would never go out alone with these "hajjis" because there had been many incidents where they turned on them and attacked when out in the open, even killing a few Americans in such incidents
 

Dr Adam

President (40k+ posts)
You give too much creedence to the Afghan Army, you think they were so disciplined even if we are to believe your theory. Fact is majority of then joined the Army just as job to earn money to feed their families in a country with almost no opportunitiesnd where the Army was paying good money and in dollars I believe. None of them took the army seriously, there was no national pride or will to defend the country also 80% of them are illiterate how do you expect to use sophisticated weapons, tech, read maps, send communication, positions when majority of them can't read or write.

I actually know and have talked to American soldiers who were in Afghanistan and training them. They say these afghans were like monkeys, couldn't follow simple orders, extremely slow learners, extreme lack of any discipline, always non serious and joking around with each other. They knew these monkeys weren't learning anything and they were just wasting their time trying to train them.

Also they didn't trust them at all and would never go out alone with these "hajjis" because there had been many incidents where they turned on them and attacked when out in the open, even killing a few Americans in such incidents
Read again what I was saying. I'm not praising afghan army.
I told him it was a joint venture of Pk Eye agency and the taliban to infiltrate their men into that newly created afghan army thru these new recruitments in thousands and when the time came to fight talibans they laid down their arms and conveniently walked away.... and rest is the history.
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Read again what I was saying. I'm not praising afghan army.
I told him it was a joint venture of Pk Eye agency and the taliban to infiltrate their men into that newly created afghan army thru these new recruitments in thousands and when the time came to fight talibans they laid down their arms and conveniently walked away.... and rest is the history.
You said

Pak pashtoon lerkay hazaroun kee taadad main afghan fauj main bharti kerwa deeay thay jo tarqqi kertay kertay aala ohdoun tak pohanch ga'aye. Rank and file kay fauji apnay commander kay hukam per chaltay hain. Agar commander hee goli naa chalanay kaa hukam day gaa tow phir

I was referring to the fact as to how disciplined and farmabardar you make them out to be that they obey their commanders ( Paki moles according to you) at the drop of a hat.
 

Dr Adam

President (40k+ posts)
You said



I was referring to the fact as to how disciplined and farmabardar you make them out to be that they obey their commanders ( Paki moles according to you) at the drop of a hat.
O' bhai many of those sleeper commanders were those infiltrated men who reached to that level in 15 years.
 

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