The sinking ship.

Mocha7

MPA (400+ posts)
Most of you might remember that when Zardari was president, the political analysts sarcastically said that PhD degree is required to comprehend Zardari's politics. Although welfare of masses was never Zardari's priority, all parties were engaged at historic unanimous adoption of Eighteenth Amendment on Provincial Autonomy. The amendment have some weaknesses though.

On the contrary Imran had a passionate 20+ year long journey on the slogans of "Justice, humanity and self esteem" to become the premier. Ever since he had become the PM, the behavior of Khan in government is enigmatic to say the least. The redundant "khazana khaali hai" justification for not initiating development projects led to the question why no efforts for institution and constitutional reforms had been done that doesn't even require a penny.

اک معمّہ ہے سمجھنے کا نہ سمجھانے کا

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Although the decreasing popularity of Khan was evident to most of us, the by election in Imran's stronghold KpK still came as a shock. After KPK elections it seems the situation is getting clear where we are heading. Before supposed sinking of the Titanic, it seems reasonable to assess reason of inactions. Also what were Khan's real intentions and motives in politics. And if those were sincere, why Imran failed to deliver. What's your take on that?

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پھول تو دو دن بہار جاں فزا دکھلا گئے
حسرت ان غنچوں پہ ہے جو بن کھلے مرجھا گئے

Islamabadiya
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Bubber Shair

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
میرے خیال میں تھریڈ لکھنے والے نے کسی لیڈر کی جھوٹی باتوں کی قلی کھولی ہے
اور ہاں قوم کی تشفی پوری طرح ہوچکی ہے۔ اب بس

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ابے اتنی تو کھل گئی ہے کیا تاحال تشفی نہیں ہوئی اب کس چیز کے کھلنے کی تمنا دل میں ہے؟
 

Okara

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
PTI supporters are not slave and they don't vote if the candidate is based on nepotism or based on money. Where as in other parties they don't vote for worker but the one who is more corrupt or criminal.
 

arifkarim

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Premium Member
Although welfare of masses was never Zardari's priority, all parties were engaged at historic unanimous adoption of Eighteenth Amendment on Provincial Autonomy. The amendment have some weaknesses though.
Of course. Why won't all corrupt parties be interested in 18th amendment that gave free hand to provinces to do loot and plunder without federal jurisdiction or oversight. This amendment was meant to weaken federation of Pakistan, so obviously all corrupt parties unanimously agreed to it. PTI wasn't in Parliament when this disaster happened
 

Islamabadiya

Minister (2k+ posts)
Most of you might remember that when Zardari was president, the political analysts sarcastically said that PhD degree is required to comprehend Zardari's politics. Although welfare of masses was never Zardari's priority, all parties were engaged at historic unanimous adoption of Eighteenth Amendment on Provincial Autonomy. The amendment have some weaknesses though.

On the contrary Imran had a passionate 20+ year long journey on the slogans of "Justice, humanity and self esteem" to become the premier. Ever since he had become the PM, the behavior of Khan in government is enigmatic to say the least. The redundant "khazana khaali hai" justification for not initiating development projects led to the question why no efforts for institution and constitutional reforms had been done that doesn't even require a penny.

اک معمّہ ہے سمجھنے کا نہ سمجھانے کا

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Although the decreasing popularity of Khan was evident to most of us, the by election in Imran's stronghold KpK still came as a shock. After KPK elections it seems the situation is getting clear where we are heading. Before supposed sinking of the Titanic, it seems reasonable to assess reason of inactions. Also what were Khan's real intentions and motives in politics. And if those were sincere, why Imran failed to deliver. What's your take on that?

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پھول تو دو دن بہار جاں فزا دکھلا گئے
حسرت ان غنچوں پہ ہے جو بن کھلے مرجھا گئے

Islamabadiya Siberite Hussain1967 Tit4Tat KPKInsafian fahid_asif Kavalier bl0u81 JusticeLover MADdoo shujauddin

Note: This thread is a no-Imrani zone. 😬😁

we may never know the right and exact answer to your question. Game of thrones is such a muddy affair. But:
I would say that before Minar E Pakistan Jalsa, khan must have realised that there is no way he will become PM without selling parts of his soul to different power bridges, mainly JT in shape of money and estab to access the rest of the needed ingredients to reach the top.

That, IMO, started the failure that we see today. Needless to detail why one starts compromising when making such deals.

But khan could have back stabbed them all of he really believed in people. People would stood for him if in his first year, he had been ruthless.
 

arifkarim

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Premium Member
میرے خیال میں تھریڈ لکھنے والے نے کسی لیڈر کی جھوٹی باتوں کی قلی کھولی ہے
اور ہاں قوم کی تشفی پوری طرح ہوچکی ہے۔ اب بس

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کیوں بے؟ تیرے حرامخور مفرور کنجر کی تین بار وزیر اعظم بن کر بس نہیں ہوئی اور عمران خان کی پہلی باری میں ہی بس ہو گئی؟
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Siberite

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
At least you are trying to figure it out the real reasons for such a failure but just look around in this site, you will find the effects of the mesmerized mummies frozen in time .
In my humble opinion. Islamabadiya is right. If you take one of Khan's famous saying ' Fish starts to rot from the top ( head)" , you would have no problem reaching the conclusion of such an embarrassment. We all know where the buck stops . Finger point to the right direction should not be a problem. The usual ineptness, incompetency , wrong decisions, wrong people on wrong positions , they are all the side effects of the bigger problem .
 

Kam

Minister (2k+ posts)
Khan has done nothing wrong and country is in right direction. It's only a matter of time since economy had no piers and there was no capacity developed.
No capacity means nothing was in hand.
Now thanks to Allah, something seriously is being thought and developed. Although pace is very slow due to job hungry country and no one having the experience and capacity to start ups.
Foreign reserves are good enough. Future arrangement are being managed.
It's a country building strategy not election winning short term goals.
May Allah give strength to Khan to succeed in these difficult times.
 

Siberite

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Khan has done nothing wrong and country is in right direction. It's only a matter of time since economy had no piers and there was no capacity developed.
No capacity means nothing was in hand.
Now thanks to Allah, something seriously is being thought and developed. Although pace is very slow due to job hungry country and no one having the experience and capacity to start ups.
Foreign reserves are good enough. Future arrangement are being managed.
It's a country building strategy not election winning short term goals.
May Allah give strength to Khan to succeed in these difficult times.
You are right. Doing nothing can't harm anything ...
 

Tit4Tat

Minister (2k+ posts)
we may never know the right and exact answer to your question. Game of thrones is such a muddy affair. But:
I would say that before Minar E Pakistan Jalsa, khan must have realised that there is no way he will become PM without selling parts of his soul to different power bridges, mainly JT in shape of money and estab to access the rest of the needed ingredients to reach the top.

That, IMO, started the failure that we see today. Needless to detail why one starts compromising when making such deals.

But khan could have back stabbed them all of he really believed in people. People would stood for him if in his first year, he had been ruthless.
At least you are trying to figure it out the real reasons for such a failure but just look around in this site, you will find the effects of the mesmerized mummies frozen in time .
In my humble opinion. Islamabadiya is right. If you take one of Khan's famous saying ' Fish starts to rot from the top ( head)" , you would have no problem reaching the conclusion of such an embarrassment. We all know where the buck stops . Finger point to the right direction should not be a problem. The usual ineptness, incompetency , wrong decisions, wrong people on wrong positions , they are all the side effects of the bigger problem .

good points but a very interesting question raised above. Could khan sb have done it differently and could the so called faith in people have really helped turn khan sb into that saviour which we all had been waiting for?
 

Kam

Minister (2k+ posts)
You are right. Doing nothing can't harm anything ...
You had 50 billion USD import bill. And export were 20 billion only. 30 billion USD deficit. 19 billion as foreign remittances. So net loss was 11 billion on average for gangs 5 years.

We have lost decade from 2008 to 2018. Mulk ki bunyadain Hila din is decade main zalmon ny without any sympathy and without any care.
 

arifkarim

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Premium Member
good points but a very interesting question raised above. Could khan sb have done it differently and could the so called faith in people have really helped turn khan sb into that saviour which we all had been waiting for?
You don't need saviors. You need workers. Pakistan's total population is 200 million and yet 10 million overseas Pakistanis send Pakistan more dollars than local population. That's your real problem, lack of export related work.
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Mocha7

MPA (400+ posts)
good points but a very interesting question raised above. Could khan sb have done it differently and could the so called faith in people have really helped turn khan sb into that saviour which we all had been waiting for?
Couldn't have said it any better. Wonder what's stopping him.
 

arifkarim

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Premium Member
You had 50 billion USD import bill. And export were 20 billion only. 30 billion USD deficit. 19 billion as foreign remittances. So net loss was 11 billion on average for gangs 5 years.

We have lost decade from 2008 to 2018. Mulk ki bunyadain Hila din is decade main zalmon ny without any sympathy and without any care.
These Khotay Patwaris can't read or understand the damage done by previous govts
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