[MENTION=5038]karachiwala[/MENTION] , our Hoyl Prophet S.A.W encouraged muslims to read and understand Quran ....... It is not to be only studied through ulmas.
Why Men can marry 4 times and NOT women?
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[MENTION=5038]karachiwala[/MENTION] , our Hoyl Prophet S.A.W encouraged muslims to read and understand Quran ....... It is not to be only studied through ulmas.
biomat
Minister (2k+ posts)
Here is how we might answer the question:
"Islam is all about RIGHTS - Everyone has their rights in Islam, even children have rights"
"If a woman marries more than one husband at a time, how would the child get their rights of inheritence? What about their rights amongst other children from different fathers - but the same mother?"
"If a woman can choose from any man, even the ones who are married, but a man can only choose from the unmarried women - who has the most choices?"
But first, before talking about Islam, Muslims, Allah, Quran or even their question - here are a few steps we have found to be very effective in helping see the true picture of Islam - and in some cases - even become MUSLIMS THEMSELVES...
1. First, we begin by saying
“Thank you . . for taking the time to ask me and for sharing your ideas and concerns. It makes us happy to receive mail from all around the world and to be able to communicate with so many Muslims and non-Muslims about my favorite subject: Misconceptions About Islam and the Muslims.
It is our pleasure to hear you are interested to know more about Islam and the many benefits Islam offers to all humans throughout all times. This is important to us and we are always thankful for a chance to share Islam with everyone. . “
Now, just take it slow and easy . . .
2. Say this:
First of all, let us do some basic research here:
If you have a Quran, turn to chapter four (4) and read it all the way through to help you better understand what Islam is really saying about humans in general and women in particular.
Now, ask them to reflect on what is being said . . .
Then think about the verses. Doesn’t it make sense to you, only God Knows all about what He has created? And also, doesn’t make sense only He would have the perfect answers for us in these matters?
Have you considered the condition of women at the time of the revelation of the Quran over 1,400 years ago?
The verse of the chapter in question talks about restricting the number of wives to be only 2, or 3, or maximum 4, and even then with more limitations.
All of this comes at a time when there were no restrictions or limitations on the number of wives or the treatment of women in general.You see, women were in very bad shape back then. All around the world women were suffering at the hands of men. For instance, did you know:
Men would bury their new-born baby girls in the desert sands – alive? This was out of shame for having something so low, instead of a son.
Women were treated with horrible disgust.
Men had no limit on the number of wives they could have.
There were no laws protecting women and they had no rights at all.
Even the Church had convened a council meeting to determine if a women even had a soul.
The Church blamed “Eve”, and damned her and all women after her for tempting Adam to eat the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden. (Islam puts the blame on Adam for what he did and on Eve for what she did – and they repented and Allah forgave both of them)
Women are blamed in the Old Testament of the Jews for the “original sin” and treated in disgust.
A woman's monthly cycle was considered by the Bible to be a "curse from God" for her inequities.
Her child bearing pains were also a 'punishment from God' for her bringing man down from heaven.
OK, now read the verse from Quran we have been discussing (4:3) very carefully about having more than one wife.
What does it say? And what do you understand from it?
Verse 19 forbids men from inheriting (or marrying) women against their will. Young girls and orphans no longer had to fear being taken as “wives” to satisfy the desires of some man.
Now, read verse 24 to learn how Islam forbid men to marry women that are already married.
Next, read from verse 34, the orders from God Almighty, concerning the role of men and the position of women in front of the Lord Above. The commandment in this verse orders men to take on the role of supporter, provider, protector and custodian to the women.
A woman has the difficult role of carrying the child and delivering it and then feeding it and raising it to become a true servant of Allah.
Obviously, men and women are not created the same. They of course, are equal in front of Almighty God, as regards their righteousness, good deeds and obedience. However, it is obvious men and women are not exactly the same as each other. Each one must fulfill their role as humans.
Now it is time to mention some of the basics of Islam - to help them grasp a better understanding of what Allah's deen is really all about . . .
As we said in the beginning - Islam is about rights. Allah Almighty has the Right to be worshipped alone without any partners as He is the One and only God there is. The prophets all have the right to be followed by the true believers. After Allah and His prophets, the one having the very most rights, according to Islam is the mother, and then the father. But children also have rights in Islam.
When a man dies his wealth is left to his family.
How could the court know who to give the wealth of a man, if he was one of several husbands to a woman?
How would a child know who his father was?
No society ever supported the concept of a woman being married to two or more men at the same time. Almost every society supported the concept of a man having more than one woman.
Islam came to set things straight.
Women were given rights. Men were strictly ordered to treat their women with the very best of treatment.
First of all, the men had to divorce their wives, if they had more than four. So this was not an order to go out and get four wives. It was an order to begin limitations.
And the first limitation was; No more than four.
Second, consider the limitation of equal treatment for all of them. How could a man keep more than one wife unless he was exceedingly wealthy and/or exceedingly strong and virile?
Next, the limitation very clearly states; ".. but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly (with them) then only one ..."
Step by step, the men of Islam have come to be known today as the most monogamous of all men on earth. (we only have one wife)
Now ask them to really investigate for themselves:
Check for yourself and see. In the majority of all the Muslim homes on earth, a man gets married once, to one woman and then he stays married to her until the death of either himself or his wife.
It is strange isn't it, a society like America, that condones having sex without marriage, homosexuality, same sex marriages, sex without responsibility, children without fathers and divorces are more common place than the measles or chicken pox, would be so concerned about the way the Quran speaks against these things.
Islam demands that a couple be married, and the man actually work instead of the woman and the woman owns her own property without giving anything for the support of the house or the child, a children have the right to their own mother raising them instead of a baby sitter or day care, father must support his children, divorce is hated, marriage is sanctified.
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This should stimulate the thinking process of any intelligent thinker. Let them have time to read the Quran, and see what comes to them. If they still have more questions, it may be that Allah is going to guide them through your efforts.So be patient and remember, it is only Allah who guides and we are only delivering the message, “Laa elaha illallah, Muhammadar Rasoolullah.”Let us know if we can help you in the future. We will be waiting to hear from you. May Allah Bless with His Guidance, amen.
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so in future, if DNA testing facility becomes widespread and is available in every nook and corner then going by your logic a woman would then be allowed to marry four??? coz then the "nutfa" identification won't be a problem right..!!??
I mean come on man....argument tou koi dhang ka lao....
jahan aur wujooh hain,eik wajha yeh bhi hay- sirf yahi nahi hay.
FaisalKh
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Brother the question was only about why 4 marriages for man. It was not for in what condition 4 marriages are allowed. I am not sure about it but i have also heard that u must ask permission from ur wife for second marriage. If u dont have proper knowledge of something do not criticize it or spread it as u will be responsible for the aftermath of it. This is not politics this is Islam and u need to be very careful in criticizing something because after Quran, Hadith, Fiqah u get guidance from scholars and their fatwa... and whatever scholar said he said it according to Quran and Hadith... and if he did not then he will be accountable for it. Another thing is that in newspaper if some question is asked do not expect the lengthy reply as the space is limited there.... If u really need to look for detailed answer then personally go to the scholar.... :jazak: May Allah (SWT) forgive me if i have said anything wrong Aameen and increase our knowledge and Eemaan Aameen....
moazzamniaz
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
اس خدائی حکم کے پیچھے اصل میں کار فرما حکمت بھی یقیننا کوئی مغربی غیر مسلم ہی مسلسل تحقیق اور تجربات کے بعد دریافت کرے گا، کہ کیونکر اس میں بھی انسانیت اور معاشرے کی بھلائی پوشیدہ ہے. اسکا تعلق ضرور خواتین کی نفسیات، حیاتاتی تشکیل وغیرہ کے ساتھ ہو گا
FaisalKh
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I have heard that, for Allah (SWT), The self respect of a Muslim is dearest than Ka'aba and every child is born Muslim (rest Allah (SWT) knows best)... iddat of a pregnant woman ends when she gives birth to a child... and May Allah (SWT) forgive me if i m wrong Aameen, i have heard that Allah (SWT) does not want someone else sperm be thrown on that child because of that child's self respect.... so u can take an idea from this that if a woman marries 4 man and she is pregnant from one then others would disgrace the child.
FaisalKh
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
:jazak: brother very nice and detailed answer and very informative. Thanks
FaisalKh
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
yaah we saw it on this forum too but what do u mean by that? What do u want to say?
Oh you all Blind or whish to remain blinds conveniently, cant you read following
few words in the verse:
and if you fear (First Condition).
with the orphan girls,
(SECOND CONDITION).
Once anyone wish to take into account these two foremost conditions
then, air in their self-made theory is blown out. Conveniently all Mullahs
do not wish to read or highlight this.
Raaz
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Few people post their ideal mulas's ideas but not Quran...
These Mullah could not tell what Allha talla is saying about raining system , birth system and any thing about gravity or any other useful topics for the people..
They only tell why 4 marriages r good to do , because they have to do for themselves...
All science is available in Quran but they r blind.
Raaz
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
I could guess. But I am not Mufti.
It is animal instinct to do sex for kids or any other reason... It is not an angle instinct.
So every male has a territory ..and no other male cold enter in this territory.
And in one male terrotary there could be more than one females ...
And this system could work only on the basis of equality, if male is attending to every female , when she needs him.. otherwise she will leave him...
This is the mind set , you could observe everywhere...Allah made it like that, no question about it why.
Raaz
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
OK u tell us why u have two bulls ? شکریہ
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People don't mention it ..... Tell me , If a condition is given in holy Quran , then what is the aftermath if someone dis obeys form it .... Suppose a man marries two wives and doesnot treeat then equally , would that nikkah become fasiq? if no then why not , Quran mentions that don't do if u cannot be just.......?????????
Just chill out , Holy Quran has told us , now its for us to implement it...........................
PAINDO
Siasat.pk - Blogger
OK u tell us why u have two bulls ? شکریہlol
اک ٹہگا کھووے تے جگڑی د ا اے تے دوجا گندھال واسطے
ماڑی گل نہیں کرنی
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