Why did Quaid e azam say this? There is no power on earth that can undo Pakistan

[Sunbeam]

When Pakistan was made Qaid e azam said that I have khottay sikkay in my both pockets, he was referring to insincere politicans.
We shouldn't forgot that we have already lost half of Pakistan due to one politican whose name was Zulfiqar Ali Bhutoo and this mardood is still Alive..and other politicans Nawaz sharif family, zardari family and many others have made Pakistan almost bankrupt and taken it to the greylist

 

[Tony Tony]

This is a common misconception and brainwashing that's been done in recent times to distance men from religion.

Liberalism caused world war 1 and 2 and shed more blood than the history of the world combined.

Also there have been times of glory for every culture, it is the law of Allah. Allah changes time of every nation and they have ups and down. The Romans were the superpowers of the world and look what happened to them. Muslims became the superpowers and look what happened to them now that they've forgotten the principles that make a nation great. It's America's turn now.

The elites, freemasons have always brainwashed the pathetic sheep people who don't use their brain at all. Look at history and educate yourself to notice the brainwashing.

America was the epitome of barbarism, Muslims had abandoned slavery for centuries and America still imported negros by the shiploads to America until very recently that they abandoned it and now they're trying to rewrite history and come off as civilised.

It is amazing how successful this brainwashing is, religion is the culprit when in reality, atheists have caused more bloodshed than anyone else. Look at Stallin. Look at the communist china slaughtering Muslims even to this day. If we were to judge the success of a state by this, atheism/liberalism is bloody and failure.

And Quote: "Liberalism caused world war 1 and 2 and shed more blood than the history of the world combined".
My friend you are mixing Fascism with Liberalism.
In order for you to understand, in layman terms.....
Hitler was a Fascist who wanted to control the whole world ruled by people from Aryan race (superior race, though still debatable that he was an Aryan or not). He who started the second world war. He certainly was not a Liberal like you have described.
Fiaz Ahmad Faiz was a Liberal........ who believed in a society free of Race, Religious persecution, Gender and ethnicity but yet he was a Muslim.
Liberals ask for Liberty and Equality.
Above are just two examples......... for you to differentiate among the above two.....

 

[Tony Tony]

addition.....
"Aur teasra Cocaine may duba hai"

 

[Sunbeam]

This is a common misconception and brainwashing that's been done in recent times to distance men from religion.

Liberalism caused world war 1 and 2 and shed more blood than the history of the world combined.

Also there have been times of glory for every culture, it is the law of Allah. Allah changes time of every nation and they have ups and down. The Romans were the superpowers of the world and look what happened to them. Muslims became the superpowers and look what happened to them now that they've forgotten the principles that make a nation great. It's America's turn now.

The elites, freemasons have always brainwashed the pathetic sheep people who don't use their brain at all. Look at history and educate yourself to notice the brainwashing.

America was the epitome of barbarism, Muslims had abandoned slavery for centuries and America still imported negros by the shiploads to America until very recently that they abandoned it and now they're trying to rewrite history and come off as civilised.

It is amazing how successful this brainwashing is, religion is the culprit when in reality, atheists have caused more bloodshed than anyone else. Look at Stallin. Look at the communist china slaughtering Muslims even to this day. If we were to judge the success of a state by this, atheism/liberalism is bloody and failure.

Well said ..

 

[abdulwahabhamdan96]

addition.....
"Aur teasra Cocaine may duba hai"

Evidence???

 

[QaiserMirza]

 

[Tony Tony]

Evidence???

Our PCO Thugs (gang of 5), in their historic decision declared that there is no need of an "Evidence" ..... and assumptions are OK to make a ruling......
"Does not matter if you take a Salary from your sons or not.... Intention was there" enough to make a ruling.
This principal will now be applied everywhere, since WISE MEN have taught us to do so.

 

[Tony Tony]

Hazrat Quaid-e-Azam, during the movement for Democracy, went to a mosque to give a speech. He walked inside the Mosque with his shoes.
Few people there immediately told him to remove the shoes. Quaid got surprised and asked why?
The devoted Muslims explained to him that "We respect our Mosques (place to worship the God), [even though we cut the throats of each other whenever we get a chance, We lie, we steal, we do Drugs, we do Zina, As judges we Talk Loud though our decisions should be, we proudly take bribe, We fight others war, and in future we will kill elected leaders including your sister, we will manipulate elections and we will kill non-Muslims], Quaid shock his head and removed his shoes.

 

[abdulwahabhamdan96]

Our PCO Thugs (gang of 5), in their historic decision declared that there is no need of an "Evidence" ..... and assumptions are OK to make a ruling......
"Does not matter if you take a Salary from your sons or not.... Intention was there" enough to make a ruling.
This principal will now be applied everywhere, since WISE MEN have taught us to do so.

WOW. Dear always argue with an evidence.

Panama verdict is simple NS was receiving Salary and not withdraw them, thereby amounting to be an asset which should be declared in nomination papers which NS failed. therefore disqualified.

Secondly supreme court gave full right to NS Family fight there case and they failed to proved their sources of income and hence sentenced. THATS ALL this is simple. no confusion in minds of people except only few lifafas.​

 

[Tony Tony]

WOW. only talk with an evidence.

Panama verdict is simple NS was receiving Salary and not withdraw them, thereby amounting to be an asset which should be declared in nomination papers which NS failed. therefore disqualified.

Secondly supreme court gave full right to NS Family fight there case and they failed to proved their sources of income and hence sentenced. THATS ALL this is simple. no confusion in minds of people except only few lifafas.

Dear friend.........
Also read the verdict on Sheda Ojri's case:
He did not declared some properties and the PCO Thugs declared.... "We accept your explanation that you forgot to mention" only because you do not belong to PPP and PMNL..... the task which we have received from the Establishment, for now, is to go after only those two. Rest my case sir.
Same, in a Suo Moto against Choorni Aleema Khan.......... Immediately accepted her apology, fined her but NO NEED TO GIVE MONEY TRAIL (where the money came from and how she sent outside Pakistan) as they could not find the word PMNL and PPP.
Open your eyes my friend and see the SELECTIVE justice, just because these PCO thugs are installed there to promote Establishment's agenda.

 

[abdulwahabhamdan96]

Dear friend.........
Also read the verdict on Sheda Ojri's case:
He did not declared some properties and the PCO Thugs declared.... "We accept your explanation that you forgot to mention" only because you do not belong to PPP and PMNL..... the task which we have received from the Establishment, for now, is to go after only those two. Rest my case sir.
Same, in a Suo Moto against Choorni Aleema Khan.......... Immediately accepted her apology, fined her but NO NEED TO GIVE MONEY TRAIL (where the money came from and how she sent outside Pakistan) as they could not find the word PMNL and PPP.
Open your eyes my friend and see the SELECTIVE justice, just because these PCO thugs are installed there to promote Establishment's agenda.

Dear Only talk about the evidence of Panama Case it was leaked internationally. This is simple if you are not comprehend its not my fault.

 

[Steyn]

And Quote: "Liberalism caused world war 1 and 2 and shed more blood than the history of the world combined".
My friend you are mixing Fascism with Liberalism.
In order for you to understand, in layman terms.....
Hitler was a Fascist who wanted to control the whole world ruled by people from Aryan race (superior race, though still debatable that he was an Aryan or not). He who started the second world war. He certainly was not a Liberal like you have described.
Fiaz Ahmad Faiz was a Liberal........ who believed in a society free of Race, Religious persecution, Gender and ethnicity but yet he was a Muslim.
Liberals ask for Liberty and Equality.
Above are just two examples......... for you to differentiate among the above two.....

I am not confusing anything. All these isms, fascism, liberalism, atheism, communism, these isms have no morality. And they all suppress religion.

Religion is shown to be the root of all problems when in reality, these isms are the root of all problems.

Religion didn't cause world wars, religion didn't cause bloodshed in Afghanistan, Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, Yemen but a liberal country which is actually close to fascism and white supremacist has done it.

What difference does it make what ism it is, they have no morals. Objective morality is from God, if you don't follow God then there is no morality. if enough people support it, homosexuality is considered normal. If enough people support it, bloodshed is okay as long as it is the inferior blood of Afghanis or Muslims or stupid vietnamis or anyone that isn't America. If enough people support it then obliterating a whole country is a good thing destroying the environment, children, babies, elders, animals.

Yet these people have the audacity to say and lie to our face that liberalism and all these isms are the solution.

One of the tactics that is used is lumping Christian extremism to Islam. Islam has no concept of extremism, it is all about being moderate in all aspects of your life including worship. Christian crusadors and Christian extremist empires suppressed freedom and anyone that wasn't Christian.

Even today, look at America. Everyday these bigots, racists, extremists regular TV programming is to spread one propaganda and program the people - Muslims are terrorists and their religion spreads terrorism. Why? Because they're preparing to annihilate the Muslim world and gain public support for it. 9/11 was programmed into the masses for decades until they did it and it was easily digestible to think that some backwards afghanis did it.

Pakistan was a peaceful country until America bought our corrupt politicians and made these terrorist training camps to destroy Soviet Union using Islam for this purpose. Then when the job was done, declare these freedom fighters to be terrorist to do what the Soviets couldn't do. Conquer Afghanistan.

What is common? Isms. Communism, liberalism, fascism, imperialism, these are all the same. Rejection of morals. Islam considers murder an evil against everyone, Islam has even a set rules for how to conduct war - don't kill children elderly and women, don't destroy trees and anyone who isn't participating in war - Islam is also uncorruptable and these rules will never change.

The elites tried to control the masses with religion first with Christianity and corrupted the Bible. When that didn't work out well, the new religion is science. Islam is an enemy to these isms because it is a hurdle in their brainwashing efforts.

He who controls the past controls the future.

Look at the efforts to rewrite history. The founding fathers of America had slaves but your average American will not know that.

 

[Tony Tony]

I am not confusing anything. All these isms, fascism, liberalism, atheism, communism, these isms have no morality. And they all suppress religion.

Religion is shown to be the root of all problems when in reality, these isms are the root of all problems.

Religion didn't cause world wars, religion didn't cause bloodshed in Afghanistan, Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, Yemen but a liberal country which is actually close to fascism and white supremacist has done it.

What difference does it make what ism it is, they have no morals. Objective morality is from God, if you don't follow God then there is no morality. if enough people support it, homosexuality is considered normal. If enough people support it, bloodshed is okay as long as it is the inferior blood of Afghanis or Muslims or stupid vietnamis or anyone that isn't America. If enough people support it then obliterating a whole country is a good thing destroying the environment, children, babies, elders, animals.

Yet these people have the audacity to say and lie to our face that liberalism and all these isms are the solution.

One of the tactics that is used is lumping Christian extremism to Islam. Islam has no concept of extremism, it is all about being moderate in all aspects of your life including worship. Christian crusadors and Christian extremist empires suppressed freedom and anyone that wasn't Christian.

Even today, look at America. Everyday these bigots, racists, extremists regular TV programming is to spread one propaganda and program the people - Muslims are terrorists and their religion spreads terrorism. Why? Because they're preparing to annihilate the Muslim world and gain public support for it. 9/11 was programmed into the masses for decades until they did it and it was easily digestible to think that some backwards afghanis did it.

Pakistan was a peaceful country until America bought our corrupt politicians and made these terrorist training camps to destroy Soviet Union using Islam for this purpose. Then when the job was done, declare these freedom fighters to be terrorist to do what the Soviets couldn't do. Conquer Afghanistan.

What is common? Isms. Communism, liberalism, fascism, imperialism, these are all the same. Rejection of morals. Islam considers murder an evil against everyone, Islam has even a set rules for how to conduct war - don't kill children elderly and women, don't destroy trees and anyone who isn't participating in war - Islam is also uncorruptable and these rules will never change.

The elites tried to control the masses with religion first with Christianity and corrupted the Bible. When that didn't work out well, the new religion is science. Islam is an enemy to these isms because it is a hurdle in their brainwashing efforts.

He who controls the past controls the future.

Look at the efforts to rewrite history. The founding fathers of America had slaves but your average American will not know that.

I must respect your views and we can argue probably for months to make our point of view.... however I would like to put anyone through a very simple test and only thing I ask is an Honest answer:
Question: You have been given a choice of these following countries to live.... Please tell us 1 through 3 your choices and reason why....
1- Saudi Arabia.............you will be always closer to Macca and Medina
2- Iran ............................. A country where they practice Islam close to what prescribed in the books.
3-Turkey.......................... Glory of Ottoman Umpire
4- Pakistan...................... Minorities are "VERY" safe and peace is everywhere
5- England...................... Ruled by Racist white people
6- USA............................. Bad Bad Bad
7- Scandinavian Country..... Home of the most ultra-Liberals
8- Germany.................... Home to Liberals
After we have the answers from any sample of choice, our debate could have a conclusion.

 

[Tony Tony]

I am not confusing anything. All these isms, fascism, liberalism, atheism, communism, these isms have no morality. And they all suppress religion.

Religion is shown to be the root of all problems when in reality, these isms are the root of all problems.

Religion didn't cause world wars, religion didn't cause bloodshed in Afghanistan, Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, Yemen but a liberal country which is actually close to fascism and white supremacist has done it.

What difference does it make what ism it is, they have no morals. Objective morality is from God, if you don't follow God then there is no morality. if enough people support it, homosexuality is considered normal. If enough people support it, bloodshed is okay as long as it is the inferior blood of Afghanis or Muslims or stupid vietnamis or anyone that isn't America. If enough people support it then obliterating a whole country is a good thing destroying the environment, children, babies, elders, animals.

Yet these people have the audacity to say and lie to our face that liberalism and all these isms are the solution.

One of the tactics that is used is lumping Christian extremism to Islam. Islam has no concept of extremism, it is all about being moderate in all aspects of your life including worship. Christian crusadors and Christian extremist empires suppressed freedom and anyone that wasn't Christian.

Even today, look at America. Everyday these bigots, racists, extremists regular TV programming is to spread one propaganda and program the people - Muslims are terrorists and their religion spreads terrorism. Why? Because they're preparing to annihilate the Muslim world and gain public support for it. 9/11 was programmed into the masses for decades until they did it and it was easily digestible to think that some backwards afghanis did it.

Pakistan was a peaceful country until America bought our corrupt politicians and made these terrorist training camps to destroy Soviet Union using Islam for this purpose. Then when the job was done, declare these freedom fighters to be terrorist to do what the Soviets couldn't do. Conquer Afghanistan.

What is common? Isms. Communism, liberalism, fascism, imperialism, these are all the same. Rejection of morals. Islam considers murder an evil against everyone, Islam has even a set rules for how to conduct war - don't kill children elderly and women, don't destroy trees and anyone who isn't participating in war - Islam is also uncorruptable and these rules will never change.

The elites tried to control the masses with religion first with Christianity and corrupted the Bible. When that didn't work out well, the new religion is science. Islam is an enemy to these isms because it is a hurdle in their brainwashing efforts.

He who controls the past controls the future.

Look at the efforts to rewrite history. The founding fathers of America had slaves but your average American will not know that.

Quote: "Pakistan was a peaceful country until America bought our corrupt politicians and made these terrorist training camps to destroy Soviet Union using Islam for this purpose.
You see how you are brain washed............ You knowing or unknowingly said Corrupt Politicians set-up the training camps and involve in Afghan Conflict.
We must have a courage to speak the TRUTH (Islam also teaches us).
GHQ, ISI and Establishment were responsible for the poor choice and setting up training camps inside Pakistan to help their Masters to achieve their goals. The person Responsible for all this mess was GENERAL KHANZEER-ul-HAQ, followed by the wonder boy Commando Musharraf. Your history is distorted my friend (I am not sure if that was deliberate) or not)

 

[sakayani]

Gave me goosebumps.

 

[Steyn]

I must respect your views and we can argue probably for months to make our point of view.... however I would like to put anyone through a very simple test and only thing I ask is an Honest answer:
Question: You have been given a choice of these following countries to live.... Please tell us 1 through 3 your choices and reason why....
1- Saudi Arabia.............you will be always closer to Macca and Medina
2- Iran ............................. A country where they practice Islam close to what prescribed in the books.
3-Turkey.......................... Glory of Ottoman Umpire
4- Pakistan...................... Minorities are "VERY" safe and peace is everywhere
5- England...................... Ruled by Racist white people
6- USA............................. Bad Bad Bad
7- Scandinavian Country..... Home of the most ultra-Liberals
8- Germany.................... Home to Liberals
After we have the answers from any sample of choice, our debate could have a conclusion.

You're imposing your opinion upon me and then expecting me to respond. I don't view America as bad bad bad, Iran isn't following Islam close to books, England isn't ruled by racist white people.

Thanks for sharing your views though, they're not mine and i don't agree with how you've painted those countries.

 

[Tony Tony]

You're imposing your opinion upon me and then expecting me to respond. I don't view America as bad bad bad, Iran isn't following Islam close to books, England isn't ruled by racist white people.

Thanks for sharing your views though, they're not mine and i don't agree with how you've painted those countries.

I knew the answer.......... Rest my case............Thanks :)

 

[Steyn]

Quote: "Pakistan was a peaceful country until America bought our corrupt politicians and made these terrorist training camps to destroy Soviet Union using Islam for this purpose.
You see how you are brain washed............ You knowing or unknowingly said Corrupt Politicians set-up the training camps and involve in Afghan Conflict.
We must have a courage to speak the TRUTH (Islam also teaches us).
GHQ, ISI and Establishment were responsible for the poor choice and setting up training camps inside Pakistan to help their Masters to achieve their goals. The person Responsible for all this mess was GENERAL KHANZEER-ul-HAQ, followed by the wonder boy Commando Musharraf. Your history is distorted my friend (I am not sure if that was deliberate) or not)

Huh? Not sure what you're getting at. America didn't physically come here and destroy this country, they paid these corrupt politicians, generals, whatever.

I don't disagree with that so idk what you're getting at. The culprit was America because they wanted to destroy Soviets. Pakistan should've minded their own business like they done with Kashmir or Chinese Uighar Muslims or they should've declared an open war on Soviets but instead they did this hypocrisy appearing neutral to Soviets while getting money from America and Israel.

Watch Charlie Vilsons War for how cleverly they did this.

 

[Tony Tony]

Huh? Not sure what you're getting at. America didn't physically come here and destroy this country, they paid these corrupt politicians, generals, whatever.

I don't disagree with that so idk what you're getting at. The culprit was America because they wanted to destroy Soviets. Pakistan should've minded their own business like they done with Kashmir or Chinese Uighar Muslims or they should've declared an open war on Soviets but instead they did this hypocrisy appearing neutral to Soviets while getting money from America and Israel.

Watch Charlie Vilsons War for how cleverly they did this.

Once again you have dodged..................
Politicians have never been allowed to deal with American or any other country as a matter of fact.
Thug Generals always kept Foreign Policy in their hands.
It is easy to put a blame on Politicians and that is what u r doing also...
ONCE again this country is Destroyed by its Establishment....
Have courage, like a good Muslim :) and speak the truth please.

 

[عؔلی خان]

• Islam is a Deen (comprehensive way of life) and not merely a Mazhab (religion).
• Armed Forces are always considered to be an integral part of a country's Government, regardless whether it is Democratic, Socialist, Communist, Christian, Jewish, Islamic .etc, in order to defend its interests and maintain its sovereignty and more. Given that Pakistan was founded in the name of Islam and calls itself an Islamic Republic, thus, its Armed Forces (informally known as "establishment") are also an integral part of such an Islamic Republic.

Thank you. :)(y)​