WHAT IS THIS.... We are the first travel agency in Canada to send Women group for Umrah without Mehr

swing

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Yar Pakistan mai aisay bayshimaar agent hain jo yaha pakistan say b without mehram umrah per bayjtay hain (farzi behna bhia bana ker) so iss mai itna surprise honay ki zarorat nahe AAGAY AAGAY daikho hota hai kia!
halankay i think umrah aur hajj bina mehra k nahe hota u can say that ZIARAT but not umrah.
 

swing

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
@ biomat

Assalam-o-alaikum
Bro swing but do they advertise so openly in PAKISTAN, i dont think so.. I agree to you, but they do it secretly..

Daikhoo iss dunya mai agar saray buray kaam aik dum say inject ho saktay hotay tou uss mai hum log zara b time na laytay.
magar yeh ALLAH ka nizaam hai yaha imtihaan hain aur uss k leye jo wakat dia gaya hai woh zaror pora hona hai aub app nay yeh baat kahee
kay kia PAKISTAN mai aisay advertise openly nahe hai tou shyd app theek hoo(i said shyd) magar PAKISTAN MAI SOOD ki advertise tou OPEN hain am i right?
har dosray akhbaar mai advertisement atee hai ASAAAN IQSAAT per qarza hasil karay(aur woh b aam admy de rahay hain just mobile phone contact k sath) what u think about that so kaam tou saray he saree jaga per chal rahay hain magar jaha hamari nazar jati hai woh hamay nazar aaa jataa hai.
jis qadar ILAM aam ho chuka hai app ko kia lugta hai k kon nahe janta k UMRAH bina mehram k nahe hota .AIK HAI jo app k KAAN mai phoonk mar deta hai k tumharee majboori hai(husband ko bhai ko yah baytay ki job ka masla hai) tumhara ho jata hai.(u know shaitaan)
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
1)It depends on what people think law is and how it applies.

2)Islamic law is simple, what is not unlawful is lawful. The proof is needed for declaring something unlawfulness.

3)Islamic law is based on situations and circumstances therefore lawfulness and unlawfulness changes or applies accordingly.

For example, when the situations and circumstances demand that there should be protecting men of the family with women then that is necessary but when ummah thinks that women can travel safely without protecting men then that too is ok because the state or interstate security plays the same role.

There is much different state of affairs today as compared to times past. It is a fundamental mistake to think that the same law applies under all situations and circumstances.

If the same law was to apply under all situations and circumstances then one could not be allowed to drink or eat or do haraam even if one was to die out of thirst or hunger or under duress.

A person is allowed to say things that are not in his mind even against Allah if one faces danger.

It is unfortunate that we lack the very basic knowledge of islam today and are fighting over silly little things causing divisions amongst ourselves.
 
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biomat

Minister (2k+ posts)
Brother Mughal
Assalam-o-alaikum
Send me proof or PM me if u dont want to.. About that IT IS OK TO GO FOR UMRAH or HAJJ without MAHRAM..
Dont make it doubtful.
I hope you will understand. I might have understood you wrong, so i am ok to make myself rectify on my view.
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Dear biomat, I have stated the basic rule for forming islamic laws to explain how islamic shariah works. What the law should be or apply at any particular time in a particular place depends on people who make laws and the situations and circumstances. If it is thought that it is safe for women to travel freely then that is fine and if it is thought that traveling for them is not safe on their own then that too is fine.

Just to explain it further talking to strangers and being alone with them is not forbidden in islam. If we read the quran we will see some events whereof this becomes clear. For example, story of Mariam mother of Jesus. She was not under care of her mahrams. When Moses ran away from Egypt he met his future wife to be. Her father sent her to get Moses. Prophet Lot's wife was left behind. Moses sister kept her eye on her brother and his mother took Moses back home with her etc etc.

I am aware of various Ahadith and ruling by imaams who forbid traveling of women on their own if journey is for more than three days. However, if we do not take them in the context explained then they make no sense and go against the quranic context.

There is no confusion at all if we keep the quran and reality of life in sight. However as soon as we take any law irrelevant to situations and circumstances then nothing makes sense at all.

It is at that point we must let go wrong notions or make beliefs and stick to what makes sense and works in real world situations and circumstances which change with time and place as well as the set up. This world and things in it are constantly changing all the time so laws we make must compensate for these changes to remain relevant eg babies grow so clothes must be made to suit people at different stages of their lives. One size clothe should fit the whole life time cannot work.

Hope this helps clarify the point. Regards and all the best.
 
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Newt0n

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
@Mughal.... bro! need more clarification, specially the part where u quoted Koranic events... can u give the references....
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Dear NewtOn, the rule I stated about halaal and haraam is base upon verses which discuss various things eg hudood. Again and again the quran tells us the limits beyond which we must not go. Limits are prohibitions ie don't do things you are stopped from sort of context eg 2/178. The other kind of verses are where certain things are forbidden eg 4/23-24 here certain women are forbidden for marriage and the rest are ok to marry or in 6/151 proof is demanded for forbiddence of certain food oe in 7/31 etc certain proof is demanded for forbiddence. Likewise is the case in surah 3 and 5. When one reads the quran it is not possible to take this any other way but that it is a pattern in the quran or it is a systematic approach that what is not forbidden is lawful.

Likewise the quran does not forbid women from traveling freely or from participating with men. Even the wives of the prophet are told to be careful because of conspiracies against the prophet. Yet the quran does not forbid their participation 33/32-61. Story of Moses is told in various places but see 28/7-13, 23-27. Story of mariam is also told in various places in the quran but see 3/35-49.

As for parda, it is basic personal privacy ie each person must be allowed to remain private to a certain extend and likewise is the case in the quran. Clothes keep a person private body wise and house keeps a person private space, place or living wise. In case of Moses the girls were taking their animals for grazing themselves. So they were not locked in the house. Mary was looked after by men who were her tribal elders but not her mahram and she lived alone in the temple.

The idea of confining women in side the house or in a dress code that is very restrictive is not quranic at all. The quran is clear therefore that people dress and participate appropriately in the society.

Hope this helps. Regards and all the best.
 

biomat

Minister (2k+ posts)
Dear Mughal brother
Assalam-o-alaikum
I asked my brother (who forwarded this email) to explain his point of view on solid grounds, Any way again i am open to listen to your point of view in light of Quran & Sunnah.
Jaza-k-ALLAH
(٥٨)۔ عَنْ أَبِی هُرَيْرَةَ رَضِیَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمَا قَالَ قَالَ النَّبِیُّ صَلَّی اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ: لَا يَحِلُّ لِامْرَأَةٍ تُؤْمِنُ بِاللَّهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الْآخِرِ أَنْ تُسَافِرَ مَسِيرَةَ يَوْمٍ وَلَيْلَةٍ لَيْسَ مَعَهَا حُرْمَةٌ۔ (بخاری، رقم ١٠٨٨)
''ابو ہریرہ رضی اللہ عنہ سے روایت ہے کہ نبی صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم نے فرمایا:جو عورت اللہ اور روز آخرت پر ایمان رکھتی ہے اس کے لیے یہ جائز نہیں کہ وہ بغیر کسی محرم کے ایک دن رات کا سفر کرے۔''

(٥٩)۔ عَنْ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ رَضِیَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمَا أَنَّهُ سَمِعَ النَّبِیَّ صَلَّی اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَقُولُ: لَا يَخْلُوَنَّ رَجُلٌ بِامْرَأَةٍ وَلَا تُسَافِرَنَّ امْرَأَةٌ إِلَّا وَمَعَهَا مَحْرَمٌ، فَقَامَ رَجُلٌ فَقَالَ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ اکْتُتِبْتُ فِی غَزْوَةِ کَذَا وَکَذَا وَخَرَجَتْ امْرَأَتِی حَاجَّةً قَالَ: اذْهَبْ فَحُجَّ مَعَ امْرَأَتك۔ (بخاری، رقم ٣٠٠٦)

''ابن عباس رضی اللہ عنھما کہتے ہیں کہ انھوں نے نبی صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم کو یہ فرماتے ہوئے سنا کہ کوئی مرد اور عورت ہرگز تنہائی میں اکٹھے نہ ہوں اور محرم کے بغیر ہرگز کوئی عورت سفر نہ کرے، اتنے میں ایک آدمی کھڑا ہوا اور اُس نے کہا یا رسول اللہ میں نے اپنا نام فلاں فلاں غزوے میں لکھوا رکھا ہے، جب کہ میری بیوی حج کرنے کے لیے جا رہی ہے۔ آپ نے فرمایا: پھر تم اس کے ساتھ حج پر جاؤ۔''

(٦٠)۔ عَنْ ابْنِ عُمَرَ رَضِیَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمَا أَنَّ النَّبِیَّ صَلَّی اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ قَالَ: لَا تُسَافِرْ الْمَرْأَةُ ثَلَاثَةَ أَيَّامٍ إِلَّا مَعَ ذِی مَحْرَمٍ۔ (بخاری، رقم ١٠٨٦)

''ابن عمر رضی اللہ عنھما سے روایت ہے کہ نبی صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم نے فرمایا: عورت تین دن سے زیادہ کا سفر محرم کے بغیر نہ کرے۔''

(٦١)۔ عَنْ أَبِی سَعِيدٍ الْخُدْرِیِّ قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّی اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ: لَا يَحِلُّ لِامْرَأَةٍ تُؤْمِنُ بِاللَّهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الْآخِرِ أَنْ تُسَافِرَ سَفَرًا يَکُونُ ثَلَاثَةَ أَيَّامٍ فَصَاعِدًا إِلَّا وَمَعَهَا أَبُوهَا أَوْ ابْنُهَا أَوْ زَوْجُهَا أَوْ أَخُوهَا أَوْ ذُو مَحْرَمٍ مِنْهَا۔ (مسلم، رقم ٣٢٧٠)

ابو سعید خدری رضی اللہ عنہ سے روایت ہے کہ رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم نے فرمایا: جو عورت اللہ اور آخرت کے دن پر ایمان رکھتی ہے اس کے لیے جائز نہیں کہ وہ تین دن یا اُس سے زیادہ کا سفر کرے مگر یہ کہ اُس کے ساتھ اس کا باپ، اس کا بیٹا، اس کا شوہر، اس کا بھائی یا اس کا کوئی اور محرم رشتہ دار ہو۔''
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میں حج پر جانا چاہتی ہوں ، لیکن محرم رشتہ داروں میں سے کوئی ساتھ نہیں جا سکتا، البتہ ایک قابل اعتماد فیملی جن کے بچے میرے شاگرد رہے ہیں، وہ مجھے اپنے ساتھ حج پر لے جا سکتی ہے۔ کیا اسلام کی رو سے اس فیملی کے ساتھ میرا حج پر جانا درست ہو گا؟

:سوال




اس زمانے میں حج کا سفر بہت محفوظ ہو گیا ہے، لہٰذا پرانے زمانے کے غیر محفوظ سفروں کی وجہ سے عورت کے لیے محرم کے ساتھ ہونے کی جو ہدایت دی گئی تھی، اب ان حالات میں اس کا اطلاق نہیں ہو گا۔


محرم کی شرط کے معاملے میں ائمہ اربعہ میں اختلاف موجود ہے ۔امام شافعی اور امام مالک کے نزدیک اگر عورت کو محفوظ رفاقت میسر آ جائے تو وہ حج کے لیے جا سکتی ہے، اس کے ساتھ محرم کا ہونا ضروری نہیں ہے۔ جبکہ امام ابو حنیفہ محرم کے وجود کو لازم قرار دیتے ہیں۔

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Question:

Assalamualaikum

Respected Mufti Saheb

Please guide us on the following matter: Zaid is going for Hajj with his wife. He has an old age widowed mother in-law who wishes to join him with her other unmarried daughter who lives with her and serves her. Both mother and daughter have as yet not performed their Fardh Hajj though they have the means to do so financially. On reaching the Haramain they have made arrangements by way of separate rooms (son in-law and wife in one room and the mother and daughter will be in a separate room). Question is that is it permissible for the mother in-law and her unmarried daughter to go with the son in-law as Mahram to perform their Fardh Hajj?

Your reply will be deeply appreciated.

Wassalaam

Answer:

Fatwaa no. 025/06

الجواب حامدا و مصليا

Nabi SAW said, `It is not permissible for a Muslim woman to travel for 3 days or more without a Mahram or her husband. In some narrations the words are as follows, a woman should certainly not perform hajj without her Mahram (Hidayah). In a narration from Sahih Bukhari it says when Nabi SAW forbade the woman from travelling without their Mahram, then a Sahabi asked Nabi SAW `Oh Nabi of Allah my wife wants to go for hajj where as my name is written amongst those going in Jihad, Nabi SAW then ordered him to go for hajj with his wife. From this Hadith we gather that it won't be correct for a woman to travel without a Mahram even if she is going for hajj.

The travel of hajj lasts for quite a while. Many a time we need help from each other. If a woman is travelling without her husband or Mahram she may be compelled to take assistance from a stranger whereby there may be close relations and touching of each others body parts which can be a cause of Fitnah. If she can not find any help she may fall into problems. During Tawaaf, pelting and slaughtering the woman needs the man's assistance to complete these pillars in an orderly fashion. Nowadays there are huge crowds during the hajj period .People bump into each other all the time. Important items need to be bought, and at the airport etc one has to stand waiting while the other completes the necessary requirements. In this case for a man to travel alone he won't be short of difficulties. So imagine how hard it will be for a woman travelling alone when she shouldn't take help from a strange man. Therefore the law of the Shari'ah is that it is incorrect for a woman to perform hajj without her husband or Mahram. (Fataawaa Mahmoodiyah pg 177, 201 v3 & pg167 v9 & pg 166,172 v13)

If hajj becomes Fardh on a woman due to her high financial ability and she has no Mahram or husband, but from her close family there are a few women going for hajj with their husbands or Mahram and she is able to take help from these family women in all her difficulties faced during hajj, she is also certain that she wont need help from any strange man where by her body touches his or she has unceremonious conversations, in this case there Fuqahaa differ in whether is it permitted for her to perform only her Fardh hajj alone? According to Ahnaaf it still won't be permissible for her to perform hajj without her husband or a Mahram. If she is unable to go for hajj with her husband or Mahram in her life time then she should make a bequest for her hajj to be performed for her. (Ad-Durrul Mukhtaar pg 157 v2)

According to Hanaabilah hajj will not be Fardh on that woman that does not have a husband or a Mahram to accompany her; because there is a Hadith in Daru Qutni that a woman should certainly not perform hajj without a Mahram. (Al Mughni Li Ibni Qudamah pg30 v5)

According to Imam Maalik and Shafi'ee a woman can perform her Fardh hajj only with pious and reliable women if she doesn't have a Mahram, not Nafl Hajj. (Al Majmoo' Sharhul Muhathab Lin Nawawi, pg 69 v7)

According to Ahnaaf if a woman is financially able to go for hajj then hajj becomes Fardh on her. However if she lives a long distance away from Makkah then her actual performance of hajj only becomes Waajib if she has a husband or a Mahram with her and if not she must make a bequest. (Ad Durrul Mukhtaar pg 158 v2, Fataawaa Rahimiyyah, pg 57, 108 Fataawaa Mahmoodiyah)

Nowadays travelling is different to before. It has become much easier. It is because of the large crowds that there is very little private time. It is easy for a healthy woman to mount and dismount a bus etc. In such circumstances some Hanafi Ulamaa have given permission for a woman to perform her Fardh hajj only without her husband or Mahram, if she is going with her close family women and their husbands.

So you can go for hajj with your mother and sister, only to perform your Fardh hajj, on condition that your sister's husband is with.

And Allah Ta’ala knows best

Mufti Muhammad Ashraf

Darul Iftaa

Jameah Mahmoodiyah

Springs

www.mahmoodiyah.org.za

[email protected]

18 February 2006

19 Muharram 1427
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The scholars have differed on the length of this distance. Many scholars are of the opinion that it is 16 Farsakh, and each Farsakh equals three miles, thus totalling to 48 miles. (See: Faydh al-Bari ala Sahih al-Bukhari, 2/397)

Thus, the Hanafi Fuqaha are very clear, in that a woman must not travel to the distance of three days without her husband or Mahram accompanying her.

The great Hanafi Jurist, Imam al-Kasani (Allah have mercy on him) states: “One of the conditions for the permissibility of a woman travelling for Hajj is that she is accompanied by her husband or a Mahram. If neither of them is accompanying her, then Hajj will not be obligatory.

Our (Hanafi school) proof is what Ibn Abbas (Allah be pleased with him) narrated from the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) that he said: “Verily, a woman must no travel for Hajj except that her Mahram is accompanying her”. The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) also said: “A woman must not travel except that her Mahram or Husband is with her”. Also, a woman is unsafe if her husband or Mahram is not accompanying her, and this is the reason why it is even impermissible for her to travel on her own (meaning, not in the company of a stranger, m), and this fear (of their safety, m) is increased when they are in a group. This is the reason why it is impermissible for a man to be in seclusion (khalwa) with a non-Mahram woman even if she has another woman accompanying her.” (Bada’i al-Sana’i, 2/1230)
 
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zaman

MPA (400+ posts)
کیا ضرورت ہے ایسے عمرے کی -جس میں الله کا قانون ٹوٹے-خواتین اگر تمام کنڈیشن پورا نہیں کرتیں تو اپنے گھر پر بیٹھ کر ہی الله الله کریں- سارے ثواب الله گھر پر دیگا-لیکن جس کام میں زیادہ پیسے خرچ نہ ہوں اور نہ ہی تکلیف ہو -دل کو تسلّی نہیں ہوتی -عمرے کے دوران بھی یہی حکم ہے کے نمازیں اپنے کمرے میں ادا کریں بس طواف کی نیّت سے حرم جائیں - لیکن یہ بات اپنے گھر والے ہی نہیں مانتے کسی دوسرے کو کیا کہیں -واہ یہاں آکر بھی حرم میں نماز نہ ادا کریں ؟ یہاں کیوں لائے تھے ؟؟
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Wa alaikum salaam dear biomat, thank you for adding more information to this topic. I am aware of these ahadith and fatwas but as I explained islam is not deen of same law fit all situations and circumstances. This is an indisputable fact very obvious from the quran. This means any report attributed to the prophet has to be according to the quranic set up or it is not useful. If the quran clearly states exceptions to every rule based on situations and circumstances to show that law is for serving some purpose then no report can be authentic that does not follow the quranic way of dealing with matters concerning laws. This is very important point to remember. This means any report attributed to the prophet that gives us any law that does not take into account situations and circumstances is not true or complete objectively. It is because the prophet cannot be expected to contradict Allah's word ie the quran.

The ahadith and fatawas you have stated do not take into account situations and circumstances therefore do not seem to be complete even if they are authentic isnaad wise.

In fact one can raise questions against them by cross examining their texts. For example a woman is free to travel alone for up to three days, does that not pose danger of rape etc? If a woman is thought secure for three days then why not for four day or five days etc etc etc?

There has to be something else in these reports to clarify the point or purpose of such a rule. It is for this reason we must not base islam on mere reports but always look back to the quran to see how Allah deals with things or guides the prophet to deal with things. Since the quran is clearer than these reports so we are better leaving them alone or interpret them according to the quran. No matter what we cannot use these reports as rule because laws are never made this way. They are always made to serve some purpose in a situation or under a set of circumstances.

This is why islam needs proper understanding by those who understand these important points. Mufties and mawlanas who have no idea about these things should not be allowed to issue silly fatwas in the name of islam because this on one hand ruins peoples' lives and on the other makes islam a laughing stock in the eyes of nonmuslims and makes it difficult for schoars who face questions from nonmuslims when they try to invite them to islam. Islam is divine order for mankind and if we fail to understand it properly then we will not be able to deliver it to others effectively.

This is why we must disengage from the notion that islam is based on muslim priesthood or clergy like hindu, jewish and christian setting. This set up suited imperialists and that is why they created priestly class amongst muslims to suit themselves. Mullahs provided legitimacy for those who blessed them so they were always agents of kings, fuedals and of ruling elite to act as control mechanism for them as regard masses. Islam is not a personality cult but a moral imperialism. Islam is need of time because it is a proper concept of rule of law. Islam requires that all people should live by same set of humanist values and laws. No masters and no slaves, just brotherly existence of mankind.

Thanks for giving me opportunity to explain the idea further.

May Allah bless you and reward you for this and more and guide us all to what is right.

how to approach quran
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHb6hWrtYCc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkF-Z8Ulp-w&feature=related

http://theimpudentobserver.com/world-news/key-saudi-arabian-issue-can-women-travel-alone/
 
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abbasiali

Minister (2k+ posts)
I have spent 16 years in Abu Dhabi as Travel Agent with the local top group, One of my specialty was Umrah and Hajj,

Saudi Arab permits only GCC citizen women for Hajj & Umrah without "MEHRAM" GCC includes United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Qatar, Oman, Kuwait. Rest Women of all Muslim countries including Arab countries like Egypt, Jordan, Syria etc required "MEHRAM"

This is my personal experience which I have shared with you.T

The main reason behind this flexibility was mentioned to me, since there is no VISA implementation by Saudi Arabia for these countries , women from these countries are allowed to travel any time of year freely, including Hajj & Umrah period.
 

abbasiali

Minister (2k+ posts)
@ biomat



Daikhoo iss dunya mai agar saray buray kaam aik dum say inject ho saktay hotay tou uss mai hum log zara b time na laytay.
magar yeh ALLAH ka nizaam hai yaha imtihaan hain aur uss k leye jo wakat dia gaya hai woh zaror pora hona hai aub app nay yeh baat kahee
kay kia PAKISTAN mai aisay advertise openly nahe hai tou shyd app theek hoo(i said shyd) magar PAKISTAN MAI SOOD ki advertise tou OPEN hain am i right?
har dosray akhbaar mai advertisement atee hai ASAAAN IQSAAT per qarza hasil karay(aur woh b aam admy de rahay hain just mobile phone contact k sath) what u think about that so kaam tou saray he saree jaga per chal rahay hain magar jaha hamari nazar jati hai woh hamay nazar aaa jataa hai.
jis qadar ILAM aam ho chuka hai app ko kia lugta hai k kon nahe janta k UMRAH bina mehram k nahe hota .AIK HAI jo app k KAAN mai phoonk mar deta hai k tumharee majboori hai(husband ko bhai ko yah baytay ki job ka masla hai) tumhara ho jata hai.(u know shaitaan)

Mera Pakistan main bhi Umra aur Hajj ka kaam karney ka tajarba raha hai, magar aisa kubhi bhi nahi huwa key kisi ko bhaghair MAHRAM key Hajj aur Umrah key liyey safar kartey huwey deikha ho,

Swing aap key zaati tajrbey main kubhi aisi koi baat aaei hai kiya?
 

Aijazahmed

Minister (2k+ posts)
The main reason behind this flexibility was mentioned to me, since there is no VISA implementation by Saudi Arabia for these countries , women from these countries are allowed to travel any time of year freely, including Hajj & Umrah period.
Why is it so?
Are you saying that women can perform Hajj and Umrah without Mehram?
Or you saying that Saudi govt. don't follow all the Islamic laws?
Or may be there is no such law exist in Islam?
Did you ever heard anything on this issue while you were working in Abu Dhabi?
Please share some more knowledge if you have.
As far as I know this is the law in Islam that no woman can perform Hajj and Umrah without mehram companion.
Wallah Alam
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Our own safety and security is our basic concern. For example, after birth as we grow up we begin to behave as we see fit in various situations under various circumstances for various reasons. We learn to trust our parents or those who raise us unless we have cause for concern. We feel secure with those who are members of our parents' circle and so by testing waters we expand our security zone. Then we go as far as we feel secure and our parents and well wishers too advice us when we travel anywhere on our own.

There are times when our parents do not let us out of sight but as we grow up and security measures become more and more effective we all relax restrictions. This is how laws are made or made to work. It is totally unacceptable to make laws or apply them without linking them to realities of life.

In fact this is where mullahs have done great disservice to islam and seriously damaged the ummah by seriously misinterpreting islam.

They just read verses and ahadith and applied them regardless of situations and circumstances or divine purpose and forced people from within ummah to rise up against each other. All this because they wanted to impose and establish imperialism by breaking the will of people so that they do not resist their authority.

This is how they have been giving bad name to islam for centuries. It is time we rediscovered islam from the quran and the ahadith by studying it for ourselves. Islam is deen of knowledgeable and thoughtful people because it is knowledge that proves it divine and and good for mankind. Brutality has nothing to do with God or islam, for Allah is Al rahmaan Al raheem.
 
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abbasiali

Minister (2k+ posts)
Why is it so?
Are you saying that women can perform Hajj and Umrah without Mehram?
Or you saying that Saudi govt. don't follow all the Islamic laws?
Or may be there is no such law exist in Islam?
Did you ever heard anything on this issue while you were working in Abu Dhabi?
Please share some more knowledge if you have.
As far as I know this is the law in Islam that no woman can perform Hajj and Umrah without mehram companion.
Wallah Alam

Bro law is remain as is in its place, what I said the reason how GCC citizen women managed to perform Hajj & Umrah without "Mehram"
 

abbasiali

Minister (2k+ posts)
I spoke to this agency rep, as per him, they accept Individual woman application above 47 year of age, she should be widow or separated, supported documents required, sub to approval of Visa. There might be a flexibility which they are taking advantage.