The distribution of poverty in poor countries | Chart

Nawazish

Minister (2k+ posts)
The distribution of poverty in poor countries

ECONOMISTS
Abhijit Banerjee and Esther Duflo describe the results of a number of household surveys they carried out in developing countries in their new book Poor Economics. Their data allow comparisons of the full distribution of consumption per person in a number of developing countries, in addition to the more commonly available figures on the fraction of people living on less than $2 a day. In some of these countries, many of those who consume enough to ensure they do not count as poor are in fact only a bit better off than those who do. Nearly 80% of the 30.6% of Bangladeshis who consume more than $2 a day in fact consume only between $2 and $4 a daystill very little indeed. A little bit of bad lucka single bad harvest, for examplemay be all it takes to send them back to living below the poverty line.


http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2011/05/poor_economics
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crankthskunk

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Where are the Indians now?

Where is their boosting about few billionaires they have created due to the inequality in the distribution of wealth?

India is probably the most unequal society in the World. Blood sucking "Banias" are drinking the blood of their own population.

The fact of the matter is almost 100% of the Indians live on less than 4$ dollars a day. Very few are over this amount, and they do not even register on the chart.

Even Pakistan and Tanzania, shows some percentage of population over $4 to $6 and $6 to $10 per day, compare to India.

What happened to shinning India, and huge progress in their wealth?
As I said despite we suffering 30 years of War in Afghanistan and despite Permanent Plunder Party in charge for last 3 years looting the Country.

Pakistanis are still better off compare to Indians, as I explained it earlier, the change in the per capita income in recent years had been due to Pakistani policies of devaluation of currency to make their product more competitive, rather than controlling the inflation rate which causes the increase in cost of production.

Instead of using money printing to ease their cash flow problems if they concentrate on plugging the gapes in the leakage of resources due to corruption and lost of income in collection of Taxes, the inflation could be controlled. In that case quantative easing would not be required, to balance the budget.

I am positively convince Pakistans problems can be overcome very quickly if honest, dedicated and educated people are placed in the Government. We could literally progress very fast.
 

desicad

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Not denying the poverty and unequal distribution of wealth, but below are the Editor comments.

eduflo wrote: May 9th 2011 7:07 GMT
Hello,

Thanks for using this graph! We hope readers find it useful.

We just wanted to give credit where credit is due: the surveys underlying these calculations were, for the most part, not conducted by us: many are conducted (in collaboration with the local statistical agencies) by the LSMS unit at the World Bank (the raw data is available on the world bank web site, an invaluable ressource), some were conducted by the Rand corporation (and are also freely available on the Rand web site).

Also, a few clarifications in response to some of the comments:

1. The data from India is not all of India: it comes from the poor parts of Udaipur district, a rural district in Rajasthan. That's the one data set that was collected by us, actually.

2. The bars don't add up to 100 because there are people who live with more than 10 dollars per day an per person.
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Thanks again.

Abhijit Banerjee &Esther Duflo
 

crankthskunk

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Desicad,

Your arguments are invalid. First of all according to the UN figures over 500 millions Indian lives in abject poverty, even in worst conditions than sub-Saharan Africans.

Secondly, the figures also show over half of the worlds very poor live in India.

This chart is created by the Indians. You can not even claim bias against Indians.

Even for your cities the figures wouldnt be much different. For example figures show over 4 million people live on footpaths in your richest city Mumbai. And remaining live in shanty towns (jhopar patti) or slums. In fact it is been claimed that 90% of Mumbai population live in less than 10% of city total area and remaining 10% occupies the remaining 90%.
So the stats in Mumbai wouldnt be much different from this chart.
There may be few very rich people. It could be useful to skew the per capita income, like it does for India as a whole, but it wouldnt make much difference for this chart. There would be similar percentage of people living far below the poverty line.

Your other argument of not covering 100% is invalid too for India.
If you take example of Brazil the chart is only showing figure to roughly 82%, which means 18% of Brazilians earn more than $10 a day.

While for Indian the chart is almost 100%, it is the only country on the chart with such percentages. Even the percentage of people earning between $2 and $4 and $4 and 6$ is negligible compared to other countries. Almost 95% people are earning less than $2 dollars a day. And the other 4.6% are earning between $2 and $4. 0.4% are anything better, while $6 and $10 barely registering.

Lets face it, the situation is dire. Dont you understand it is quite normal to have few very rich people in India, for simple reason, due to population if someone makes a daily consumption product and everyone in the country uses it, by a net profit of Rs1, the person can become a rupees billionaire? The math is simple.

You have bania mentality, famous for greed and exploitations of the poor. Ask anyone outside India they say there is no difference between Indians and the Jews who are also famous for their greed and exploitations.

Remember we Pakistanis dont make such fuss it is you the Indians who always call Pakistanis as beggars and so on. We are not beggars it is our political elites who are useless and corrupt and given us the bad name. It would be nice for you to look internally. Similarly for terrorism, your soil is far more involved in terrorism. Our problem had been all the influx of foreigners who were actually assembled by the Americans themselves for Afghanistan war against USSR. At that time Americans used to call them Mujhadeen and now the same people are terrorists. But Americans left them on Pakistanis head with over 4 millions Afghan refugees, who are still there in Pakistan. Do you understand how difficult it is to control such population number, it is even more difficult because Pakistan gave them freedom of movement. They are spread in all part of Pakistan now.

On the other hand your country had home grown terror. With most of your political parties having terrorists wings in them. Our only problem is Kashmir and its people's freedom from India. But your country had plenty of inner problems.
You should start looking inward, rather than worrying about Pakistan.

Pakistan will come out of it, we are brave people, we can handle it.

Our country could be very rich very quickly if these corrupt thieves leave us alone. Our problems can be solved in 5 years by honest and dedicated people on the helm. We were and we can easily not only surpass Indian in per capita income like we used to do in very near past but also rapidly progress to become amongst middle income countries in very short period of time.
 

only_truths

Minister (2k+ posts)
I am not going to argue that there is no poverty in India. Poverty exist in every country, some tolerable others need immediate attention. In the last five years, in India Poverty exist in remote places but more or less on paper in many urban/semi urban areas and villages which has road links to semi urban areas, as people do not want to declare they are out of poverty so that they can take benefit of Govt. doles and benefit programme. ( Read this article : Link http://articles.timesofindia.indiat...-that-matters/29493169_1_nsso-surveys-poverty).

There is a clear change in distributing doles from price subsidies to" food for work programmes" ( e.g. Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahatma_Gandhi_National_Rural_Employment_Guarantee_Act ) and cash incentives to poor by many state governments because mostly it is seen that subsided food reach black market than poor.
 
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