Sir Faisal Sabzwari Reply To KASHIF ABBASI (Off The Record) Has Proven Right کاشف عباسی کو جواب

umer

Minister (2k+ posts)
Haha lol@ jury brother. R u one of those paid ones I guess. I have heard abt u lot. Well educated? Wat u on abt my friend? Do u know how educated I am or anybody else in this forum? Would u plz let us know how much u get paid, just curious. Lol
 

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Sir Faisal Sabzwari
Reply Has Proven Right.


Now I am not from ANP nor am I from KP for that matter but as far as I know ANP is ideologically againsat Taliban and are liberal marxist kind of people who are opposed to religious parties so to label them as supporters of Taliban sounds absurd. A lot of ANP leadrs in KP have been killed by Taliban in the past few years and many had to flee for fear of their lives so how they end up being supporters of Taliban is very hard to understand.

Secondly the language being used by "Sir" Faisal whatever is EXACTLY the same that George Bush used to drum up support for his wars. He used to say all Muslims are not terrorists but a lot of terrorists are from Muslim countries ergo we should go and bomb the crap out of Iraq and Afghanistan and hopefully after killing hundreds of thousands we will have a high probability of having killed many terrorists to.
So similarly if The Pakhtun and Southern Punjabi localities are targeted and brutalized, you will eventually end up finding a couple of terrorists and we dont really have to worry about innocent causalities. We can just label them 'collateral damage' like the US does.
Who needs the Americans to kill innocents when the "sirs" of our own country speak the same language.
 

FlyHigh

Senator (1k+ posts)



Literacy
(2009)


Total: 57%[1] Male: 69%[1] Female: 45%[1]
Overall literacy rate of Pakistan

Province Literacy Rate[20] 1972 1981 1998 2009[1] Punjab 20.7% 27.4% 46.6% 59% Sindh 30.2% 31.5% 45.3% 59% Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa 15.5% 16.7% 35.4% 50% Balochistan 10.1% 10.3% 26.6% 45%
Literacy rate of Pakistani districts (2007)[33] Rank District Province Literacy rate Rank District Province Literacy rate viewtalkedit

Islamabad

Rawalpindi, Punjab
1 Islamabad Capital Territory 87% 11 Quetta Balochistan 62% 2 Rawalpindi Punjab 80% 12 Faisalabad Punjab 62% 3 Jhelum Punjab 79% 13 Mandi Bahauddin Punjab 62% 4 Karachi Sindh 77% 14 Toba Tek Singh Punjab 62% 5 Lahore Punjab 74% 15 Attock Punjab 61% 6 Chakwal Punjab 74% 16 Ziarat Balochistan 61% 7 Gujrat Punjab 71% 17 Mianwali Punjab 60% 8 Gujranwala Punjab 69% 18 Sialkot Punjab 59% 9 Abbottabad Khyber Pakhtunkhwa 67% 19 Sheikhupura Punjab 59% 10 Haripur Khyber Pakhtunkhwa 63% 20 Sukkur Sindh 59% [edit] School attendance
 

FlyHigh

Senator (1k+ posts)
And Jury when you talk about education and educated class, things have drastically changed since the 70's. Problem with MQM and Muhajirs they like to bring in education and they want everyone else in Pakistan to believe that they are the most highly educated class, others i.e majority Punjabis are less educated.

Read the stats I have provided and then talk.
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Haha lol@ jury brother. R u one of those paid ones I guess. I have heard abt u lot. Well educated? Wat u on abt my friend? Do u know how educated I am or anybody else in this forum? Would u plz let us know how much u get paid, just curious. Lol
You just want to do conversation with me.

It is not curiosity at all.
Otherwise, you should have raised the question, about the moderators.
Especially, that one, who deleted my thread couple of weeks ago, which made him speechless.
 
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Classified

Senator (1k+ posts)
@Awan
Zain ullah Mehsood ( TTP ) and Mulla Mujahid (TTP) were arrested from the shelter of ANP in Karachi ... There have been many such arrested terrorist of Lashkar jhangvi and SSP who were working under the Flag of ANP in karachi ! Faisal sabzwari is damnn right what he said !
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
And Jury when you talk about education and educated class, things have drastically changed since the 70's. Problem with MQM and Muhajirs they like to bring in education and they want everyone else in Pakistan to believe that they are the most highly educated class, others i.e majority Punjabis are less educated.

Read the stats I have provided and then talk.
Don't take it personally.
I used the term "real educated". Didn't mean that education which can get from different institutions.

You've to be real educated to understand that.
 

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
@Awan
Zain ullah Mehsood ( TTP ) and Mulla Mujahid (TTP) were arrested from the shelter of ANP in Karachi ... There have been many such arrested terrorist of Lashkar jhangvi and SSP who were working under the Flag of ANP in karachi ! Faisal sabzwari is damnn right what he said !

Can you tell me what exactly is a 'Shelter'? If someone is caught from my house and I belong to ANP is it ANPs shelter or my personal shelter?
Secondly if you want to go by this logic then the ANP makes a lot of accusations against MQM and its goons so there should be an operation against them too to keep the field level on both sides.
 

Classified

Senator (1k+ posts)
Can you tell me what exactly is a 'Shelter'? If someone is caught from my house and I belong to ANP is it ANPs shelter or my personal shelter?

Now Can you tell me why ANP workers are giving hideouts to Terrorist of TTP SSP and Lashkar-e-jhangvi ? while in KP they seem to be against Talibans .
 

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Now Can you tell me why ANP workers are giving hideouts to Terrorist of TTP SSP and Lashkar-e-jhangvi ? while in KP they seem to be against Talibans .

One person harboring a terrorist should not e construed as party policy nor should it be used as an excuse to target a whole community.
Im surprised to hear these kind of allegations from a representative of a community that has in the past cried foul when similar actions were taken against them whereby whole localities were targeted to flush out supposed hidden terrorist elements.
 

Khurram.k

Senator (1k+ posts)
didn't read or watch the video ... was jut stunned when I read " sir faisal sabzwari" hahaha ... SIR ? is party say kuch baeed nahi hai .... ye altaf hussein kay muajzay (miracles) tau batatay hi rehtay hain ...kal ko koi religious laqab bhi day saktay hain . ghunday bhi sir ...main abhi tak un par hi hairat karta tha jo musharraf ko sir kehtay hain .... laken chalo wo president raha hai ....jesa bhi raha hai , Laken sabzwari lutera , qatil , bhatta khor ....aur sir ? Har doosray pakistani par ilzaam lagwa lo in say ....karachi ko de weopanize karnay ki baat mat karo bas in say . Video tau main nay nahi dekhi laken zahir hai pathano kay peechay paray hain ...aur ye wohi pathano ko party hai jo kab say yehi mutalba kar raha hain ke karachi main say weapons khatam karo . Jinnah pur ka khaab dekhnay walay traitors apnay apko aaj SIR kehnay lag gaye. wah!! I wish for one more operation in karachi ... pakistan kay brain main say saray keeray nikaal do is dafa ...an operation clean sweeeeeeeeeeep ..... doesn't matter who it is that's ruining that city ... clean 'em up!!
 

Classified

Senator (1k+ posts)
@Awan4ever
you seriously need to watch the whole clip again ! try it !


Im surprised to hear these kind of allegations from a representative of a community that has in the past cried foul when similar actions were taken against them whereby whole localities were targeted to flush out supposed hidden terrorist elements.

This is actually lame ! when you do not have anything logical to say then you go back in past to defend your useless point . a little correction here ! MQM is no more representative of Urdu and behari speakings ! it is now Muttehda Qaumi Movement ! a movement , better for you to understand the basic philosophy behind this movement , Leave that part of Stand on Two Nation Theory (i do not defend that ) , I am Pakhtun , a muslim (shiite) and a die hard Pakistani above all but i support MQM so do i get the same label of Qatil and bhatta khor ? lol stop being phobic to "MQM"
 

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
@Awan4ever
you seriously need to watch the whole clip again ! try it !




This is actually lame ! when you do not have anything logical to say then you go back in past to defend your useless point . a little correction here ! MQM is no more representative of Urdu and behari speakings ! it is now Muttehda Qaumi Movement ! a movement , better for you to understand the basic philosophy behind this movement , Leave that part of Stand on Two Nation Theory (i do not defend that ) , I am Pakhtun , a muslim (shiite) and a die hard Pakistani above all but i support MQM so do i get the same label of Qatil and bhatta khor ? lol stop being phobic to "MQM"

Dont get over excited. I dont care who or what you are im just replying to what Faisal is saying and i find it absurd and that is all. I have never lived in Karachi nor have I been subjected to any kind of threat by MQM or ANP or Taliban so Im not taking sides.
If George bush says similar things about Muslims it is wrong but if Faisal says the same things and replaces muslim with pakhtun/south punjabi then its ok?
I dont think so.
I dont have any phobias or manias infact im the one who is looking at his statement more objectively between the two of us.
So if you have nothing logical to say except for labeling me MQM phobic then I suggest you keep quiet.
Thank you.
 

abbasiali

Minister (2k+ posts)
Sir or Madam Jury

I believe Sir Altaf bhai have now awarded Sir to ever followers of him, Like Sir Faisal, Sir Waseem, Sir Mustafa

Is there anyone of Sir Altaf Bhai follower is without SIR.[hilar][hilar]
 

Classified

Senator (1k+ posts)
@awan4ever
The only thing that outshines your ability to be a huge ignorant is your stupidity. As for the matter you said " I am not from ANP nor am I from KP" so i answerd that and told you I am Pakhtun but i do not support ANP because of The dual standard of its Ideology as per you defined it they are against Talibans But the facts are going against this ideology of being Liberal Marxism of ANP in Karachi ! That's why i told you to watch the clip again to get your facts straight !
The point of probability what Faisal Sabzwari explained and tried to explain is already there ... and what's the point in relating George bush with Faisal sabzwari's statement here ? Or do i have to co-relate your hate for MQM with the hate of Nazi hate for jews ? sounds stupid na yar ? we are talking about rock solid facts here .
Now please can you give me any clue why does every other Terrorist from any Jihadi or sectarian banned outfit got arrested from the Areas where ANP holds the nucleus ?

 

PTI_Lover

MPA (400+ posts)
Hats off to Kashif, he pointed out the right issue, Murderer's company ki bunyad hi violence hai aur violence in the name of one specific community, from day one they try to seduce people of special communities with some slippery arguments n statements

Thanks for sharing the video Jury bhai :) i loved it
 

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