Should usa and nato quit afghaistan what is your openion ?

[khanpanni]

After the fall of RUSSIA our late Zia didnt want Russians to vocate Afghanistan

so quickly by leaving power vacuum. That was the reason he fired late PM Jonnago

from the seat. On the other side in result it has been created brutal distructive and

endles civil war of different groups in Afghanistan. Our friends USA and NATO had

left us alone with all the mess and refugees during that period.
Now the history has been repeated once again . If USA

and NATO stays in the region our countries will never get freedom and if they

quit, it fears different groups will clash with eachother once again to gain the

upperhand including regional powers in Afghanistan.

Now the Question is, should USA and NATO stay in the region or quit, your

arguments please ?

 

[SaadKnight]

After the fall of RUSSIA our late Zia didnt want Russians to vocate Afghanistan

so quickly by leaving power vacuum. That was the reason he fired late PM Jonnago

from the seat. On the other side in result it has been created brutal distructive and

endles civil war of different groups in Afghanistan. Our friends USA and NATO had

left us alone with all the mess and refugees during that period.
Now the history has been repeated once again . If USA

and NATO stays in the region our countries will never get freedom and if they

quit, it fears different groups will clash with eachother once again to gain the

upperhand including regional powers in Afghanistan.

Now the Question is, should USA and NATO stay in the region or quit, your

arguments please ?

why have you neglected taliban from all this?

 

[khanpanni]

why have you neglected taliban from all this?

In those days peace loving Afghan Talaban were the creation of Russian withdrawal power vacuum automatically. They brought peace and

stability in Afghanistan. One british journalist Madam Ridily converted to Islam through their humain loving behavior.

 

[kapadias]

Americans and NATO should immediately go out of Afganistan and it is non of their business that who take control of Afghanistan after that. It will be the internal matter of Afganistan

 

[SaadKnight]

In those days peace loving Afghan Talaban were the creation of Russian withdrawal power vacuum automatically. They brought peace and

stability in Afghanistan. One british journalist Madam Ridily converted to Islam through their humain loving behavior.

and that is exactly why NATO and Aamreeka should leave.

 

[khanpanni]

and that is exactly why NATO and Aamreeka should leave.

USA and NATO have fought the Practical Idology of Islam so they will not leave space for (peace loving Islam). Moreover their attention is to sit on the main hub

of natural resources and disarm Pak from our nukes. Since they came in Afghanistan our country is bitterly affected.

 

[victim]

Afghanistan & Pakistan were & will be better off without America. Americans never intend to help you, They are just promoting their dirty global agenda.

 

[SaadKnight]

USA and NATO have fought the Practical Idology of Islam so they will not leave space for (peace loving Islam). Moreover their attention is to sit on the main hub

of natural resources and disarm Pak from our nukes. Since they came in Afghanistan our country is bitterly affected.

Well, we say that these fanatics should leave afghanistan, but as u adequately put they will not and everyone knows that :D

 

[w-a-n-t-e-d-]

Russia ka faysla Allah swt nay pak afghan border k darmiyan karwaya tha inhi mujahideen k hath jinko ajj dehshat gardh kaha jata hai...

or shekh osama ki policy say Amrica k bhi 6tukray hongay kamzkam InshahAllah...

9/11 k bad jab al-qaeda pay ilzam laga k humlay ki dhmki di gaee or phir humla kia gea os waqat ...

dunya bhar k mujahideen nay yehi faysla kia tha k yeh Ata hai tu apni marzi say any do jayga humari marzi say ...


yeh mujahideen ki behtreen hikmat-e-amli thi k 10 sal say esko yahaan rok k rakha hoa hai or peechay dunya bhar ki ecnomy
ko betha dea $$ tabha ho k rehgea .. agar pakistan k kuch darjan munafiq amrica ki chokidari na karty tu amrica abb tak
kaee riyasatoo main taqseem ho chuka hota..


abhi bhi yehi koshish hai k esko yahaan rook k rakha jayyyy... or rozana mara jay tuk tuk inko ..

bus pakistan esko yahan say nekalnay main madad na day or musalmano ki mukhbari unki farookht say baz rahay tu InshahAllah
amrica russia say ziyada buri shekast khayga InshahAllah

 

[crankthskunk]

Few things to consider here.

1- If Americans could not control Afghanistan after reinforcements and surges what chance they would be able to control it after substantial withdrawal of forces? Therefore, I am sure Americans want to withdraw completely but gradually. They can not afford their army to be sitting duck without overwhelming force. Thats how the Americans always operate, they are too scared to be killed.

2- There is absolutely no doubt, the Taliban will form the Government again and Karzai will be history.

3- We have to make sure Indians are wiped out or run with their tails in their legs, once Americans gone. They can not stay anyway, too risky. They can not control Kashmiris despite them not having many arms. How they are going to control the Afghan Taliban, when it was impossible for USSR and US to control them?

4- After dust is settled Pakistan have to do planning. First of all we should give our tribal areas status of a province like the northern areas. Work on their improvement and on infrastructure.

5- Secondly, we should work on the break up of Aghanistan with Iran and central states. Merge the Pushtoon areas in to Pakistan and work out the control of remaining areas with others. But make sure we get Wakhan area, which was created as buffer from USSR by the British. We should have direct borders with the Tajiks.

6- Once western borders are secured and Indians kicked out, we have to turn our attention to Kashmir. once Americans gone, we should provide full support to the Kashmirs, with Arms, training, back up and open up borders for incursion in to India, without fear or any care in the world. We have to be brave and liberate Kashmir once and for all.

7- Next step is the break up of India, which should start anyway after we liberate Kashmir.

I am not kidding, this is how it is going to pain out in not very distant future.
Mark my words, Indians are well aware, thats why they are cosing up to the Yanks.

 

[hans]

Afghanistan...Fifth Province of Pakistan?

During the Taliban era it was a very famous slogan of anti-Taliban forces united under the name Northern Alliance led by Ahmad Shah Masood who couldnt escape a suicide attempt by Al-Qaeda men just two days before the event of 9/11. This slogan was used as a politically disliked verse by the Afghans who saw increased involvement of Pakistan and its spying agencies into the affairs of Afghanistan.

However, Pakistan very successfully installed a religious fanatic government run by the graduates of its Madrassas (a group of religious school well above 12000 in number spread across Pakistan that teaches the most radical interpretation of the faith of Islam to boys as young as five years and above) that ruled notoriously more than 90% of Afghanistan for over five years.

The Taliban Movement was only recognized as legitimate and responsible governments by three countries namely Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and UAE. However, the world saw on 9/11 how responsible this movement was in establishing an era of fear and hatred.

Then the slogan had a practical meaning as the world observed silently the human rights abuses, military incursions, and devastation of Afghanistans tourist attracting Buddhas located in the historic Bamyan province. Now, what does it mean? As I glance on Pakistans national daily newspapers particularly English ones I seek to ask the question, what it means for Pakistani newspapers to allocate a joint page for Kashmir and Afghanistan.

For example, the daily The Nation allocates its 11th page, the daily Daily Times allocates its 9th page, the daily Mashriq allocates its 13th page. The interesting point is that Afghanistan gets its shared page with Kashmir, which according to Pakistanis is an integral part of Pakistan and that Kashmir is destined to become a part of Pakistan. But Why Afghanistan shares its page with Kashmir? Is it also thought by the Pakistanis to be the same?

Does Pakistan endeavor to install a government of its choice in Afghanistan?

It could also be reasoned that Afghanistan is a very important neighbor to Pakistan because both the nations share the same religion, partly same language (Pashto) and partly similar culture, the Pakistani media allocates special place for stories from Afghanistan. Had it been so, can anyone remember any Pakistani Newspaper that would carry specially allocated page for Afghanistan and that with the Indian Held Kashmir before the Islamization of Pakistan by late President Zia-ul-Haq and Pakistans relentless support for the warring Mujahideen? If not so, then should it be presumed that the Pakistani government and its agencies are not accepting the ground realities in letter and spirit?

 

[Star Gazer]

No. not at all. They must stay and pay for the hospitatlity provided by the Karzai government!

 

[gazoomartian]

After the fall of RUSSIA our late Zia didnt want Russians to vocate Afghanistan

so quickly by leaving power vacuum. That was the reason he fired late PM Jonnago

from the seat. On the other side in result it has been created brutal distructive and

endles civil war of different groups in Afghanistan. Our friends USA and NATO had

left us alone with all the mess and refugees during that period.
Now the history has been repeated once again . If USA

and NATO stays in the region our countries will never get freedom and if they

quit, it fears different groups will clash with eachother once again to gain the

upperhand including regional powers in Afghanistan.

Now the Question is, should USA and NATO stay in the region or quit, your

arguments please ?

YES they should and North Atlantic terrorist Org should be disabanded. This org came into existence to confront Nazis and its long since it existence is unjustified.

Our army are quiet capable of taking care of the various warring 'groups'. Its the NATO and Americans are the miscreants. And not to mention the biggest miscreants, our neighbor, you know who LOL

 

[gazoomartian]

No. not at all. They must stay and pay for the hospitatlity provided by the Karzai government!

[hilar][hilar][hilar]

 

[gazoomartian]

Afghanistan...Fifth Province of Pakistan?

YES after 2020 when US power and prestige have totally become victims of the Free Masons, Pak should capture Afghanistan. Because of the loss of prestige, economic power, and military might, dollar value will be way down resulting in India shivering of chill and cold economy.

If Europeans and Oil Arabs play their cards right, they should be able to forge a powerful economic union dumping US and as a result of US's diminished power, Arabs should be able to capture Israel for good.

May be all these will happen, only Allah knows

 

[crankthskunk]

Afghanistan...Fifth Province of Pakistan?


The Taliban Movement was only recognized as legitimate and responsible governments by three countries namely Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and UAE. However, the world saw on 9/11 how responsible this movement was in establishing an era of fear and hatred.

Now the Americans are negotiating with the same Taliban according to their own claims. Why negotiate if they were not the stake holders in the first place? This acts and announcement of Americans proves Taliban were legitimate rulers of Afghanistan and they will be soon again. No one else but your American Masters are going to install them in Kabul in very near future.[hilar][hilar]

Then the slogan had a practical meaning as the world observed silently the human rights abuses, military incursions, and devastation of Afghanistans tourist attracting Buddhas located in the historic Bamyan province. Now, what does it mean? As I glance on Pakistans national daily newspapers particularly English ones I seek to ask the question, what it means for Pakistani newspapers to allocate a joint page for Kashmir and Afghanistan.

I am sad for Budha, off course what a tremendous loss. An idiol carved in the mountains is really worth our tears, fine you got that.

What about millions of innocent people murdered ruthlessly in Islamic countries. What about human rights abuses by your Masters, all around the world? Do you have any condemnations for them? :angry_smile:
What about collateral damage? You consider human as chattels don't you?:angry_smile:

For example, the daily The Nation allocates its 11th page, the daily Daily Times allocates its 9th page, the daily Mashriq allocates its 13th page. The interesting point is that Afghanistan gets its shared page with Kashmir, which according to Pakistanis is an integral part of Pakistan and that Kashmir is destined to become a part of Pakistan. But Why Afghanistan shares its page with Kashmir? Is it also thought by the Pakistanis to be the same?

Because it is destined to become a part of Pakistan too. This is the only solution left now for Pakistan. We have seen USSR attacking it, USA attacking it, the Indians are sitting there with the help of USA, thinking they may be left with the booty. But they are living in fools paradise, once American influence and occupation gone, Indian will be running very quickly or they would be wiped out very quickly in Afghanistan. We can not take any more chances, we have to make our west secure by including Pushtoon areas of Afghanistan as part of Pakistan.

Does Pakistan endeavor to install a government of its choice in Afghanistan?

Not Pakistan but your Masters the Americans want to install it, they are negotiating with them according to their claims. Claims which are denied by the Taliban, who say, no negotiation until occupiers leave Afghanistan.