Saudi woman seeks to put women in the driving seat

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I see so many Sheldon Coopers around..!!
not able to get the sarcasm...

[MENTION=8740]awan4ever[/MENTION]: maybe you should try using the 'sarcasm' font next time ;)

UFF KHUDAYA!!:13:

I seriously thought people would get the sarcasm in this one. But oh the limited mental prowess of Zaid Hamids brain traumatized minions! :(

Tanz hay meray aziz hum watno TANZZZZZ!!!
(cry)(cry)
 

wanderer

Siasat.pk - Blogger
@ Night_Hawk
thank you for the post :) After reading your reply/addition to another post. I'm unsure of your opinion in this thread.

@ QaiserMirza
Yes there is "bayrozgari" everywhere, atleast making these NEW departments to facilitate women MIGHT put some relief there. See we provide to the society.
Emotional affairs??? Seriously ? Female word kaha nahin and obvious labeling shuru. Countries culture, religion and safety and security will be compromised if women DRIVE ? What Nonsense!!! In your words, in your world, what is CULTURAL DISASTER?? Im curious.
Well FYI!! This issue isnt being criticized. In today's world, driving is a basic necessity no matter what part of the world one lives in. What do u suggest a female do, when a male (husband,brother,father etc) has a black-out on the street or at home and she needs to get him to a Dr.? Stand by the pavement, hail a taxi?? Or rather wait for MEN to rescue her? or just get on the driver seat and DRIVE ??

PS- Does Saudia Arabia have 911 or its sisters?

@ awan4ever
Havent laughed so hard by a post.
Arnt u a drama queen. (omg)
 
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MrImranKhan

Guest
[MENTION=9841]faiza[/MENTION]

my dear sister in Islam, brother awan4ever is one of the best human beings and Muslims that I've come across at this forum. Whenever he says something, it has a deep meaning. Please ponder over it. You can refer to his other posts to understand what I'm saying.

khawajay da gua dadu

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cefspan

Minister (2k+ posts)
@ Night_Hawk
thank you for the post :) After reading your reply/addition to another post. I'm unsure of your opinion in this thread.

@ QaiserMirza
Yes there is "bayrozgari" everywhere, atleast making these NEW departments to facilitate women MIGHT put some relief there. See we provide to the society.
Emotional affairs??? Seriously ? Female word kaha nahin and obvious labeling shuru. Countries culture, religion and safety and security will be compromised if women DRIVE ? What Nonsense!!! In your words, in your world, what is “CULTURAL DISASTER”?? I’m curious.
Well FYI!! This issue isn’t being criticized. In today's world, driving is a basic necessity no matter what part of the world one lives in. What do u suggest a female do, when a male (husband,brother,father etc) has a black-out on the street or at home and she needs to get him to a Dr.? Stand by the pavement, hail a taxi?? Or rather wait for MEN to rescue her? or just get on the driver seat and DRIVE ??

PS- Does Saudia Arabia have 911 or its sisters?

@ awan4ever
Haven’t laughed so hard by a post.
Arnt u a drama queen. (omg)

waderer bhai , he can't be drama queen , more pecesely drama king......8->
 

wanderer

Siasat.pk - Blogger
@ waseem

Supper dooper Moderator.. at work ..lol dont they keep u busy...

@ cefspan

U have just been educated. Please follow up on a darma queen's defination.
 

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
waderer bhai , he can't be drama queen , more pecesely drama king......8->

Its 'behn'... ;)

I dont think this is what a drama queen really is as per the definition of the word! :D

Drama queens are the ones who start beating their chest and flailing their arms as soon as they see anything go against their one-track minds fantasy beliefs. They start shouting 'CONSPIRACY' at the drop of a hat and start labelling people CIA/MOSSAD agents or the Zaid Hamid popularized words TAKFIRI/RAFIDI. There are plenty of those on this forum. A few right here commenting on this thread!

One of them just had his posts deleted because he was being a little twat. :-p
 

wanderer

Siasat.pk - Blogger
I dont think this is what a drama queen really is as per the definition of the word! :D

:-p

lol
Obviously used here, in appreciation ;P

"Drama Queen : a person given to often excessively emotional performances or reactions "
 

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
lol
Obviously used here, in appreciation ;P

"Drama Queen : a person given to often excessively emotional performances or reactions "

Yes I understood the term was used in appreciation for which I am grateful however the actual connotation of the word is in somewhat negative terms whereby a drama queen is someone who makes a mountain out of a molehill.

Drama queen would be one who keeps saying "mer gaye, luttay gaye" even if it was a small trivial matter.! :D

This is just a little academic behs btw! :)
 

wanderer

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Yes I understood the term was used in appreciation for which I am grateful however the actual connotation of the word is in somewhat negative terms whereby a drama queen is someone who makes a mountain out of a molehill.

Drama queen would be one who keeps saying "mer gaye, luttay gaye" even if it was a small trivial matter.! :D

This is just a little academic behs btw! :)

Concentrate on "excessively emotional performances or reactions "

hmmm on the "behs" I agree ....
 

Faiza

Moderator
You need to take a very large quantity of chill pills.


So you were trying to be sarcastic

In this forum, where some people are so narrow minded that, one can say, they dont have open mind because they are scared what if brain will fall out
 

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
So you were trying to be sarcastic

In this forum, where some people are so narrow minded that, one can say, they don’t have open mind because they are scared what if brain will fall out


Rest assured Im not one of those.

I will from now on add a 'sarcasm' marker on all my sarcastic posts/quotes!! :D
 

samar

Minister (2k+ posts)
Saudi woman seeks to put women in the driving seat

By Michael Buchanan BBC News, Jeddah
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Najla Hariri says there is no law against women driving, only society's convention


A Saudi woman has taken to the road in a direct challenge to the country's ban on female drivers.
Najla Hariri started driving around Jeddah last week. She is believed to be the only woman regularly driving in a Saudi city.
The 45-year-old says she was inspired by the protests taking place elsewhere in the Middle East.
"Enough is enough", she told the BBC as she drove around the city. "I have the right to [drive]."
Ms Hariri holds a driving licence from both Egypt and Lebanon from her time living abroad, and also has an international licence that she uses when she drives in Europe.

Start QuoteIn this society I am a little bit brave - I am not scaredNajla Hariri


"There is no law against women driving. It's society's [convention] that says women are not allowed to drive."
'Not scared' The mother of five has the support of her husband and says her daughters and their friends are very proud of her.
She knows, however, that she could be stopped at any moment by the police.
"In this society I am a little bit brave. I am not scared," she says.
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Najla Hariri says she was inspired by the Arab Spring protests
In some desert areas of Saudi Arabia, women are understood to drive occasionally, but it is virtually unheard of for a woman to take to the road in a major city.
Opponents of women driving argue that it's safer for females to have a male in the car with them, and that they are honouring their women by sparing them the strain of driving.
"They are lying to themselves," replies Ms Hariri forcefully. "It is safer for women to drive themselves. We have four million foreign drivers [in the country] and we'd like to get rid of them and drive ourselves."
Ms Hariri admits she did not want to be at the vanguard of efforts to give women more freedoms.
She returned to Saudi Arabia two years ago and was tempted to start driving immediately.
She found herself stuck at home with two cars but no driver, as her husband and eldest son were both away. "But I waited for the right time; I waited for other ladies to [go first]," she says.

Start QuoteWe are focusing on spreading the word - women here don't know their rightsNajla Hariri


As no-one stepped forward, she has decided that now is the moment.
"Before in Saudi, you never heard about protests," she says.
"[But] after what has happened in the Middle East, we started to accept a group of people going outside and saying what they want in a loud voice, and this has had an impact on me."
Facebook campaign Najla Hariri's challenge to Saudi society is part of a wider effort for greater female participation in the whole of society.
A Facebook page is encouraging women to come out and drive on 17 June.
Other women are pushing for the right to vote in municipal elections scheduled for September, while there are also calls for women to get permission to sign legal documents.
Aalia, a 19-year-old university student, is co-ordinating some of the online reform efforts.
"We are focusing on spreading the word, raising public awareness," she says. "Women here don't know their rights."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13431562

hr us cheez ko women rights k naam pe promote kia jata he jo religion paractices ko weak kr skey...............in begharto ko us women ki right s yaad nhi ayee jiskey shohar ko raymond davis ne katal kia...............

apni auratoo k to inhoo ne azadi k naam p kaprey utaar diye ab ye hmarey maashroon me ye nafsaani aag lagana chahty hain.
 

taurean28

Citizen
bilkul theek kaha ap ne...Saudis are only following alll this mazhabi thing becuz they have the holy places...yeh unki majburi hai....and as well as there illeterate culture....what do peolpe think they dont eat swine or drink wine?? sub hota hai...sub underground hota hai....upper se pious bantey hain....slam me aurat ko hijaab me rehte hue her cheez kerne ki ijazat hai.....its because of some sick minded extreemist that think always negetive ...i respect women in every possible way and allow them to do everything they want...they r humans also.///like all of us...men n women are equal in all cases
 

Night_Hawk

Siasat.pk - Blogger
[MENTION=11020]wanderer[/MENTION]
@ Night_Hawk
thank you for the post :) After reading your reply/addition to another post. I'm unsure of your opinion in this thread.
:):)
My opinion is very clear, these women should be allowed to drive. There is no law (Islamic) against women driving.
I get surprised when people start quoting that "women's place is home", then why are they looking for female Doctors for their daughters, sisters, mothers and wives?
The other examples are; female teachers, female sale girls and all other walk of life.
We can not have dual standards.
There are many women in almost all professional walk of life, following the guidance of Islam and practicing their Profession.

 

Night_Hawk

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Saudi women defy driving ban
AFP (2 hours ago) Today

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Women in Saudi Arabia face an array of constraints, ranging from having to cover from head to toe in public and needing a male guardian's permission to travel, to having restricted access to jobs because of strict segregation rules. Photo by AFP

RIYADH: A number of Saudi women drove cars on Friday in response to calls for nationwide action to break a traditional ban, unique to the ultra-conservative kingdom, according to reports on social networks.
The call to defy the ban that spread through Facebook and Twitter is the largest en masse action since November 1990, when a group of 47 Saudi women were arrested and severely punished after demonstrating in cars.
Weve just returned from the supermarket. My wife decided to start the day by driving to the store and back, said columnist Tawfiq Alsaif on his Twitter page.
I took King Fahd Road (Riyadh artery) and then Olaya Street, along with my husband, I decided that the car for today is mine, Maha al-Qahtani tweeted.
Her husband Mohammed al-Qahtani tweeted that she carried her necessary belongings ready to go to prison without fear.
Another woman posted online a video of her driving after midnight Thursday as the first woman to answer the call for protest. The veiled woman drove along nearly-empty main roads until she parked at a supermarket.
All that we need is to run our errands without depending on drivers, said the unnamed woman in the video. I believe that the society is ready to welcome us.
Police patrols were at normal levels on the sleepy streets of Riyadh on the first day of the weekend, an AFP photographer reported.
Many Saudi women had pledged on Facebook and Twitter to answer the call to defy the deeply entrenched ban.
But instead of staging demonstrations, which are strictly banned in the absolute monarchy, women with driving licences obtained abroad were encouraged to take individual action.
Veteran womens rights activist Wajiha al-Huwaidar told AFP on Friday that she did not expect a huge turnout as hoped for by sympathisers abroad because of the severe response by officials to women who have taken the lead in recent weeks.
I do not expect something big as people abroad imagine, she said, adding that jailing activist Manal al-Sherif and others has scared some women off.
Sharif, a 32-year-old computer scientist, found herself behind bars for two weeks last month after driving in the Eastern Province and posting footage of her actions on the Internet.
Six other women were also briefly detained after being caught learning to drive on an empty plot of land in north Riyadh.
Women in Saudi Arabia face an array of constraints, ranging from having to cover from head to toe in public and needing a male guardians permission to travel, to having restricted access to jobs because of strict segregation rules.
The protests are the climax of a two-month online campaign riding the winds of the so-called Arab spring which has spread mass revolts across the region and toppled two regimes.
The main Facebook page campaign, dubbed Women2Drive, says the action will start on Friday and keep going until a royal decree allowing women to drive is issued.
Saudi Arabian authorities must stop treating women as second-class citizens and open the kingdoms roads to women drivers, London-based Amnesty International said on Thursday.
Not allowing women behind the wheel in Saudi Arabia is an immense barrier to their freedom of movement, and severely limits their ability to carry out everyday activities as they see fit, such as going to work or the supermarket, or picking up their children from school, said Philip Luther, Amnesty Internationals Deputy Director for the Middle East and North Africa.
There is no law banning women from driving in the oil-rich kingdom, but the interior ministry imposes regulations based on a fatwa, or religious edict, stipulating women should not be permitted to drive.
The last en masse protest against the ban was held in November 1990 when a group of women stunned Saudi men by driving around Riyadh in 15 cars before being arrested.
The women were provoked at the time by the sight of US female soldiers who were taking part in the first Gulf War driving military vehicles freely in their own country while they are banned.
Some of them reportedly said then that as their country was in war after Iraqi troops invaded neighbouring Kuwait, they felt like sitting ducks as they could not drive in case they needed to save their families.
The 47 women who took part in that protest were severely punished, with authorities suspending many from public sector jobs and reprimanding their male guardians.
They also faced a defamatory campaign with pamphlets calling them whores.
If you get arrested, do not be scared. You will only be asked to sign a pledge not to drive, read one of several recommendations posted on the campaigns Facebook page.
http://www.dawn.com/2011/06/17/saudi-women-defy-driving-ban.html
 

cefspan

Minister (2k+ posts)
[MENTION=5463]QaiserMirza[/MENTION]

Bhai , Khariat hae? Muslim women used to fight in battle , eg Hazrat Um Ammarah r.a

and u say that women should not even drive ?


Saudi women can sell lingere to hijabi woman , but women can't drive?

What the hell? its not about islam , its about their pagan beliefs , Women in pre islam era never used to ride horses etc................
 

faqira786

Senator (1k+ posts)
Driving campaign for Saudi women challenges custom

We provide a news to Western Newspaper to publish and make JOKE of us. Hope one day it will change. They are laughing on us

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/06/17/saudi.women.drivers/

Driving campaign for Saudi women challenges custom

From Mohammed Jamjoom, CNN
June 17, 2011 9:18 a.m. EDT

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Women get into the backseat of a vehicle in Saudi Arabia's capital Riyadh on June 14, 2011.

STORY HIGHLIGHTS
  • Riyadh resident says morning traffic was light, few police out
  • An online movement encourages Saudi women to drive Friday
  • "Freedom of movement is a basic right," activist says
  • Ban based on interpretation of religious edicts, not the law

(CNN) -- Saudi women have been encouraged to challenge the status quo and get behind the wheel Friday.
The initiative is called "Women2Drive," a campaign demanding the right for women to drive and travel freely in Saudi Arabia.
Though there are no traffic laws that make it illegal for women to drive in Saudi Arabia, religious edicts are often interpreted as a ban against female drivers. One female motorist spent more than a week in custody in May, supporters said.
The day was expected to be a test of wills, and authority, between police and the campaign, which has been publicized by Facebook, Twitter and other social media.
A Riyadh man who went out to document what would be an unusual scene in Saudi Arabia said the streets were typically empty for a Friday morning, but that there were many fewer police officers than in March -- when online organizers had called for mass demonstrations.
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"I'm thinking that the government is turning sideways," said the man, Ahmad Alafaliq. "They don't want to see it, they don't want to deal with it."
A Saudi woman told CNN her mother drove her and her sisters down Riyadh's main street on Thursday.
The woman, who asked not to be named because she was worried about harassment and possible reprisals, said no one bothered them.
"This is important for women here -- this is one of our rights," she said.
Authorities stopped Manal al Sharif, 32, for driving a car May 21 and detained her the next day. She said she was forced to sign a form promising not to drive again and spent a week in jail.
Al Sharif has not been charged, but the case remains open and she may be called back, according to human rights activist Waleed Abu Alkhair.
In an interview with CNN before her detention, al Sharif said she was determined to speak out.
"We have a saying," she said. "The rain starts with a single drop. This is a symbolic thing."
A Facebook page called "Women2Drive 17th June," includes a banner that reads "We are all Manal Sharif," and a quote from King Abdullah stating that "the day will come when women will be able to drive."
The same page offers some guidelines on participating in the driving movement, such as asking women to keep wearing a hijab, or head scarf; not gathering in the streets; waiving the Saudi flag to show their patriotism; having a male present in the vehicle and driving within Riyadh's city limits.
Hundreds of women joined the campaign to begin driving Friday. Some women with international licenses, such as al Sharif, began driving earlier.
"It's very important to drive because it is a basic right," said Nadya Khalife, a Human Rights Watch women's rights researcher for the Middle East and North Africa. "The freedom of movement is a basic right. Saudi Arabia is the only country that bans driving for women."
Khalife said what separates this campaign from other efforts to get women to drive is the degree to which it has relied on social media.
Khalife said the deterrents to women getting behind the wheel have been "a whole mix of things."
"They're up against society as a whole," Khalife said. "Some women may even face harassment or pressure from their families. Some women have clearly been in support, but others are saying they don't want to 'shame.'"
Khalife noted that some men have been supportive of their daughters, wives and sisters taking part in the driving campaign.
Alkhair, speaking Thursday from London, said he encouraged his wife to drive in Jeddah on Friday.
"I think after what the police and the interior ministry did to Manal al Sharif, a lot of women became afraid," he said. "The Interior Ministry has put a lot of police on the street. They want to send a message to all women."
Osamah Alluaidan, an opponent of female drivers, posted on Facebook, "It is not a sin for women to drive but when women drive and disobey the Kingdom's guardians, that's the problem, this is unacceptable."
Strict segregation by sex means women in Saudi Arabia can't travel without a male relative or take public transportation. Many women hire expensive drivers or taxis to get around.
Since al Sharif's detention, several Saudi women have uploaded their videos onto the web.
Amnesty International said Saudi women should be allowed to seek more freedoms.
"Saudi Arabian authorities must stop treating women as second-class citizens and open the kingdom's roads to women drivers," the organization said.
 

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