Saudi Prince Bandar delivered Israeli chemicals to Syrian terrorists - official

Veila Mast

Senator (1k+ posts)
Syrians in Ghouta Claim Saudi-Supplied Rebels Behind Chemical Attack!!!!

Dale Gavlak assisted in the research and writing process of this article, but was not on the ground in Syria. Reporter Yahya Ababneh, whom the report was written in collaboration with, was the correspondent on the ground in Ghouta who spoke directly with the rebels, their family members, victims of the chemical weapons attacks and local residents.
Gavlak is a MintPress News Middle East correspondent who has been freelancing for the AP as a Amman, Jordan correspondent for nearly a decade. This exclusive report is not an Associated Press article, rather it is exclusive to MintPress News.
Ghouta, Syria As the machinery for a U.S.-led military intervention in Syria gathers pace following last weeks chemical weapons attack, the U.S. and its allies may be targeting the wrong culprit.
Interviews with people in Damascus and Ghouta, a suburb of the Syrian capital, where the humanitarian agency Doctors Without Borders said at least 355 people had died last week from what it believed to be a neurotoxic agent, appear to indicate as much.
The U.S., Britain, and France as well as the Arab League have accused the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad for carrying out the chemical weapons attack, which mainly targeted civilians. U.S. warships are stationed in the Mediterranean Sea to launch military strikes against Syria in punishment for carrying out a massive chemical weapons attack. The U.S. and others are not interested in examining any contrary evidence, with U.S Secretary of State John Kerry saying Monday that Assads guilt was a judgment already clear to the world.
However, from numerous interviews with doctors, Ghouta residents, rebel fighters and their families, a different picture emerges. Many believe that certain rebels received chemical weapons via the Saudi intelligence chief, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, and were responsible for carrying out the dealing gas attack.
My son came to me two weeks ago asking what I thought the weapons were that he had been asked to carry, said Abu Abdel-Moneim, the father of a rebel fighting to unseat Assad, who lives in Ghouta.
Abdel-Moneim said his son and 12 other rebels were killed inside of a tunnel used to store weapons provided by a Saudi militant, known as Abu Ayesha, who was leading a fighting battalion. The father described the weapons as having a tube-like structure while others were like a huge gas bottle.
Ghouta townspeople said the rebels were using mosques and private houses to sleep while storing their weapons in tunnels.
Abdel-Moneim said his son and the others died during the chemical weapons attack. That same day, the militant group Jabhat al-Nusra, which is linked to al-Qaida, announced that it would similarly attack civilians in the Assad regimes heartland of Latakia on Syrias western coast, in purported retaliation.
They didnt tell us what these arms were or how to use them, complained a female fighter named K. We didnt know they were chemical weapons. We never imagined they were chemical weapons.
When Saudi Prince Bandar gives such weapons to people, he must give them to those who know how to handle and use them, she warned. She, like other Syrians, do not want to use their full names for fear of retribution.
A well-known rebel leader in Ghouta named J agreed. Jabhat al-Nusra militants do not cooperate with other rebels, except with fighting on the ground. They do not share secret information. They merely used some ordinary rebels to carry and operate this material, he said.
We were very curious about these arms. And unfortunately, some of the fighters handled the weapons improperly and set off the explosions, J said.
Doctors who treated the chemical weapons attack victims cautioned interviewers to be careful about asking questions regarding who, exactly, was responsible for the deadly assault.
The humanitarian group Doctors Without Borders added that health workers aiding 3,600 patients also reported experiencing similar symptoms, including frothing at the mouth, respiratory distress, convulsions and blurry vision. The group has not been able to independently verify the information.
More than a dozen rebels interviewed reported that their salaries came from the Saudi government.
Saudi involvement
In a recent article for Business Insider, reporter Geoffrey Ingersoll highlighted Saudi Prince Bandars role in the two-and-a-half year Syrian civil war. Many observers believe Bandar, with his close ties to Washington, has been at the very heart of the push for war by the U.S. against Assad.
Ingersoll referred to an article in the U.K.s Daily Telegraph about secret Russian-Saudi talks alleging that Bandar offered Russian President Vladimir Putin cheap oil in exchange for dumping Assad.
Prince Bandar pledged to safeguard Russias naval base in Syria if the Assad regime is toppled, but he also hinted at Chechen terrorist attacks on Russias Winter Olympics in Sochi if there is no accord, Ingersoll wrote.
I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us, Bandar allegedly told the Russians.
Along with Saudi officials, the U.S. allegedly gave the Saudi intelligence chief the thumbs up to conduct these talks with Russia, which comes as no surprise, Ingersoll wrote.
Bandar is American-educated, both military and collegiate, served as a highly influential Saudi Ambassador to the U.S., and the CIA totally loves this guy, he added.
According to U.K.s Independent newspaper, it was Prince Bandars intelligence agency that first brought allegations of the use of sarin gas by the regime to the attention of Western allies in February.
The Wall Street Journal recently reported that the CIA realized Saudi Arabia was serious about toppling Assad when the Saudi king named Prince Bandar to lead the effort.
They believed that Prince Bandar, a veteran of the diplomatic intrigues of Washington and the Arab world, could deliver what the CIA couldn't: planeloads of money and arms, and, as one U.S. diplomat put it, wasta, Arabic for under-the-table clout, it said.
Bandar has been advancing Saudi Arabias top foreign policy goal, WSJ reported, of defeating Assad and his Iranian and Hezbollah allies.
To that aim, Bandar worked Washington to back a program to arm and train rebels out of a planned military base in Jordan.
The newspaper reports that he met with the uneasy Jordanians about such a base:
"His meetings in Amman with Jordan's King Abdullah sometimes ran to eight hours in a single sitting. "The king would joke: 'Oh, Bandar's coming again? Let's clear two days for the meeting,' " said a person familiar with the meetings."
Jordan's financial dependence on Saudi Arabia may have given the Saudis strong leverage. An operations center in Jordan started going online in the summer of 2012, including an airstrip and warehouses for arms. Saudi-procured AK-47s and ammunition arrived, WSJ reported, citing Arab officials.
Although Saudi Arabia has officially maintained that it supported more moderate rebels, the newspaper reported that funds and arms were being funneled to radicals on the side, simply to counter the influence of rival Islamists backed by Qatar.
But rebels interviewed said Prince Bandar is referred to as al-Habib or the lover by al-Qaida militants fighting in Syria.
Peter Oborne, writing in the Daily Telegraph on Thursday, has issued a word of caution about Washingtons rush to punish the Assad regime with so-called limited strikes not meant to overthrow the Syrian leader but diminish his capacity to use chemical weapons:
"Consider this: the only beneficiaries from the atrocity were the rebels, previously losing the war, who now have Britain and America ready to intervene on their side. While there seems to be little doubt that chemical weapons were used, there is doubt about who deployed them.
"It is important to remember that Assad has been accused of using poison gas against civilians before. But on that occasion, Carla del Ponte, a U.N. commissioner on Syria, concluded that the rebels, not Assad, were probably responsible."

Some information in this article could not be independently verified. Mint Press Newswill continue to provide further information and updates .
Dale Gavlak is a Middle East correspondent for Mint Press News and has reported from Amman, Jordan, writing for the Associated Press, NPR and BBC. An expert in Middle Eastern affairs, Gavlak covers the Levant region, writing on topics including politics, social issues and economic trends. Dale holds a M.A. in Middle Eastern Studies from the University of Chicago. Contact Dale at [email protected]
Yahya Ababneh is a Jordanian freelance journalist and is currently working on a master's degree in journalism, He has covered events in Jordan, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Russia and Libya. His stories have appeared on Amman Net, Saraya News, Gerasa News and elsewhere.

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http://original.antiwar.com/dale-ga...saudi-supplied-rebels-behind-chemical-attack/
 
So you are in favour of Russian attack on Saudi Arabia. That means you are ready to let millions of innocent Saudi citizens die. You are also ready to see how Russian would damage our Holy places in Saudi Arabia. You want to punish millions of Saudi citizens because of the mistakes of their rulers? Is it because, you know that there are about 90% Sunnis in Saudi Arabia???

With due respect, may I ask you, "Are you a Shia?"

نا میں سنی ہوں نا میں وہابی نا شیعہ۔
میں صرف مسلمان ہوں۔
میرا نبی نا شیعہ تھا نا سنی وہابی۔
ایک نبی ایک کتاب کا ماننے والا صرف مسلمان ہو سکتا ہے ۔ فرقہ میں بٹ نہی سکتا۔

اور اللہ کی ذات نے قرآن میں کتاب اور اپنے گھر کی حفاظت کا ذمہ لیا ہے ۔
وہ ذات بہتر جانتی ہے کیا کرنا ہے ۔
 

aazad.mubassir

Minister (2k+ posts)
پاکستان کو چاہیے سعودیہ کی طرح اسرائیل سے برادرانہ تعلقات قائم کر لے ہو سکتے ہے ہماری باری آ جائے تو اسرایئلی بھائی مدد کر سکیں

اسرائیل تیری عظمت کو سلام”
as heard being said by HRH Prince Bandar Bin Israel

Muslim countries are working very hard to make Israel safe & secure from 'bandits'.
 
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Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
نا میں سنی ہوں نا میں وہابی نا شیعہ۔
میں صرف مسلمان ہوں۔
میرا نبی نا شیعہ تھا نا سنی وہابی۔
ایک نبی ایک کتاب کا ماننے والا صرف مسلمان ہو سکتا ہے ۔ فرقہ میں بٹ نہی سکتا۔

اور اللہ کی ذات نے قرآن میں کتاب اور اپنے گھر کی حفاظت کا ذمہ لیا ہے ۔
وہ ذات بہتر جانتی ہے کیا کرنا ہے ۔

Thanks for your good response. If you are a good Muslim than you must Follow Quraan:

Quraan (5:32) says:


On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people.
اس سبب سے ہم نے بنی اسرائیل پر لکھا کہ جس نے کسی انسان کو خون کے بدلے یا زمین میں فساد پھیلانے کے سوا کسی اور وجہ سے قتل کیا گویا اس نے تمام انسانوں کو قتل کر دیا اورجس نے کسی کو زندگی بخشی اس نے گویا تمام انسانوں کی زندگی بخشی

Now answer me, the Suadi rulers may be at fault; but does it mean that you can support the killing of millions of innocent civilian including children, women, elderly etc.
 
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Saudi Arabia threatens Russia with Olympic Terror

[h=1]Saudi Arabia threatens Russia with Olympic Terror[/h]


[h=2]Syria: Russia and the Saudi threats with Chechen terrorists.[/h]Prince Bandar, head of Saudi intelligence, met with President Vladimir Putin in Moscow three weeks ago and in this meeting, he uttered a number of incentives and threats to persuade Russia to drop its support for Assad and Syria.
He offered an alliance with OPEC as an incentive to Putin and he also made the offer of a joint monopoly over the global oil and gas business. Prince Bandar has also used a threat and said that otherwise terrorist attacks will happen during the Olympic Games in Sochi next February.
As a reminder, Prince Bandar was the long-time Saudi Arabian Ambassador in Washington, and he is also known under the name Bandar Bush because he is a very close friend of the satanic Bush-family.
He is also one of the main masterminds behind the terrorist attacks of 11 September 2001 because 16 of the 19 alleged hijackers were Saudi nationals as scapegoats of an operation that was carried out by the intelligence services of the U.S., Israel and Saudi Arabia. These three terrorist states represent the only real axis of evil in the world.
Prince Bandar came incognito and without an official protocol for his secret mission in Moscow in the beginning of August. First, a preliminary meeting was held at the headquarters of the Russian military intelligence service with Chief General Igor Sergon. Afterwards, Bandar visited the private home of Putin on the outskirts of Moscow, where they had their conversation behind closed doors. On the basis of leaked documents, it is now known what was discussed.
Prince Bandar told Putin:
Let`s put together a unified Russian-Saudi oil strategy. The target is an agreement about the price of the oil and the quantity of production, which keeps the price stable on the global market.
We understand Russias great interest in the oil and gas in the Mediterranean from Israel and Cyprus. We also understand the importance of Russian gas pipelines to Europe. We have no interest to compete with it. We can cooperate in this area.
That is what Bandar said, and he also expressed that all what he said has been arranged by Washington, and the U.S. administration would be fully behind it.
In the conversation it was about the offer of an alliance between the OPEC cartels and Russia, which together produce about 40 million barrels of oil per day, 45 percent of global output. Such a connection would completely change the strategic landscape of the world.
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Prince Bandar and George W. Bush have met one day after 9/11.

Prince Bandar also promised that Russia could retain its naval base in Syria, after the fall of President Assad. As a threat, he hinted at terrorists from Chechnya, who could otherwise attack the Winter Games in Sochi, in case if there will be no agreement between Russia and Saudi Arabia.
Prince Bandar said:
I give you the guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics next year. Chechen groups, which threaten the security of the games, are controlled by us, and they do nothing without consulting us.
The Saudi intelligence chief boasted that the Chechens, who rage in Syria, are a pressure medium, which can be deactivated or activated just as he needs it. Bandar said further: These groups do not scare us. We use them against the Syrian regime, but they will play no role in the political future of Syria.
The conversation between Putin and Bandar was very heated, filled with warnings about a dramatic change in Syria. Putin, however, was unmoved by the Saudi offer and the threat he was not dissuaded from his existing opinion.
Putin responded by saying:
We know that you support the Chechen terrorist for decades. And the support, of which you just spoke openly, is completely incompatible with the common goal of fighting global terrorism. We are interested to develop friendly relations after clear and strong principles.
Our point in terms of Assad will never change. We believe the Syrian government is the best representative of the Syrian people and not these liver-eaters.
That is what Putin said, and he referred to the horrific photographs that show the moment when the terrorists (in Syria) tear out and eat the heart and liver of a Syrian soldier.
Prince Bandar warned Putin of the consequences, because there is no alternative to a military option, in case Russia rejects the offer. Since then, the Western pressure on the Kremlin leader has increased and we see now, that the threat meanwhile comes true; a Western military strike against Syria is imminent.
Comment:
It`s clear for me when Prince Bandar blatantly threatens Russia with terrorism during the Olympics, the foreign terrorist groups in Syria are totally under his control, then the hired mercenaries of the Saudi intelligence, of Mossad and the CIA have certainly also carried out the poison gas attack last week in Damascus.
Bandar is only able to use such an audacity in his talks with Putin because he has America behind his back. This shows again, what dirty power games and threats are running behind the scenes, and how criminal the West really is.
Who is capable to stage 9/11, to put the blame for the attack on Osama Bin Laden and the Al Qaeda and even can deceive the whole world about it, is also capable to fabricate the poison gas attack against Syrian civilians without scruple, to put the blame for this on the Syrian Arab Army and Assad and to then sell this propaganda lie to the world.
They have justified the war against Afghanistan and Iraq with lies, also against Libya, and now they are lying in order to be able to attack Syria. The next target is then Ian, and so on. They let all believe that they would care about peace and human rights, but thereby, they only want war and they do not care about the fate of the affected people. Their moral outrage now is only hypocrisy and play-acting, because they kill each day hundreds of civilians with their faked war on terror.
It is the work of Satanists from which the leadership of the axis of evil consists. So much contempt for mankind, lies, deceit, murder and malevolence that a normal person is not even able to imagine it. But who watches all the happenings in the world with eyes wide open comes to the result that we are ruled by an evil brood of psychopaths, who serve Satan.
How else can we explain all the wars of aggression, mass murder, and the complete destruction of entire countries, the total exploitation, enslavement and impoverishment?
As John Lennon said:
Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think were being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think Im liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. Thats whats insane about it.
And I say:
They go into war for peace, they make love with hate, they kill to save lives, and they do not feel safe and therefore surround themselves with danger. How can you create life based only on the death?

http://www.syrianews.cc/saudi-arabia-threatens-russia-olympic-terror/
 

Dengue

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Saudi Arabia threatens Russia with Olympic Terror

Russia or Saudi arab ko pata ho ya na ho .. laekin yeh BC pakistani zaroor dunia main WW3 karwadeingay ... pahlai news phailai kai russia nay dhamki de saudi pe attack ki .. source an unknow website .. or saudi nay russia ko dhamki dedi ... source again an unknow syrian website .. ***** ho tum logon ki shakal pe or aqal pe ...
 

Star Gazer

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Saudi Arabia threatens Russia with Olympic Terror

If the part about Bander is true then I am yet again ashamed,horifically surprised and upset by the role of SA and my naivity about this country's rulers.
 

Humi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Saudi Arabia threatens Russia with Olympic Terror

I don't like SA but this seems a very unreliable source to me....(serious)
 

Sachbolo

Senator (1k+ posts)
The Worlds best conspirators and masters of deception are Jews and their Mossad they can do any thing to get utmost benefits as an outcome of these conflicts be it 9/11 or Invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan and so now they are working very hard to make a case against Syria.
 
Thanks for your good response. If you are a good Muslim than you must Follow Quraan:

Quraan (32:5) says:


On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people.
اس سبب سے ہم نے بنی اسرائیل پر لکھا کہ جس نے کسی انسان کو خون کے بدلے یا زمین میں فساد پھیلانے کے سوا کسی اور وجہ سے قتل کیا گویا اس نے تمام انسانوں کو قتل کر دیا اورجس نے کسی کو زندگی بخشی اس نے گویا تمام انسانوں کی زندگی بخشی

Now answer me, the Suadi rulers may be at fault; but does it mean that you can support the killing of millions of innocent civilian including children, women, elderly etc.

آج پاکستان میں اور دنیا کے مسلم ممالک میں بے گناہ انسانوں کے قتل میں ان سعودی اور عرب امارات کے جاہلوں کے ہاتھ رنگے ہوئے ہیں۔
اگر جنگ میں یہ فرض کردیا جائے کہ مخالف پر حملے میں بے گناہ کے مرنے پر بھی انسانیت کے قتل سے مراد لی جائے گی تو پھر میرے بھائی مسلمان کبھی جنگ نہی کرے گا۔ جنگ کو شر اور فساد سے نا جوڑیں۔
آیات کا مطلب اپنی مرضی کا نکالنے سے پہلے اس بات کا جواب دیں۔ پاکستان ہی کی بات کرلیتے ہیں۔ پاکستانی طالبان کے پیچھے یہی عربی ہیں جن کی فکر آپ کو کھائے جارہی ہے ۔
آپ کو ان کے بے گناہ مرنے پر آیت یاد آگئی ۔ لیکن جن کی مدد سے مسجدوں تک کو نہی بخشا جارہا۔ ایک جنازہ پڑھانے والوں کا جنازہ بن جاتا ہے ۔ بے گناہوں کے قتل کی کیا داستان بیان کروں۔
آپ نے مجھے شیعہ کہا۔ سمجھا۔
کیا شیعہ انسان نہی ؟ اس کے بے گناہ مرنے پر بھی یہی آیت یاد کیوں نہی آتی ؟

 

ImRaaN

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Saudi Arabia threatens Russia with Olympic Terror

Are you a christen or Hindu ?
You don't like SA.
What do you like Vatican or Poja pat?

I don't like SA but this seems a very unreliable source to me....(serious)
 

Raja Farhan Arif

MPA (400+ posts)
download kar k aik baar dekhne main koi harj nahi

Lawrence of arabia ka link dain


mujay apnay link ka naam batain jo send ki hai becoz piratebay is ban in UK Agar Pakistani Government Ban karay to rolaaay par jain

Any how plz give me the name, i have to find it anyway
 

Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I am not Shia, and it does not even matter, for me Sunni Shia are same. Which part of my statement shows hatred.
What ever Shias believe in is non of your business so mind your own business and let them be.

Hmmmm, are you a Shia as well, and your above statement shows the hatred, your barbarism and your sick metality.

I thought Shias belive in following verse of Quraan:


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32مِنْ أَجْلِ ذَ*ٰلِكَ كَتَبْنَا عَلَىٰ بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ أَنَّهُ مَن قَتَلَ نَفْسًا بِغَيْرِ نَفْسٍ أَوْ فَسَادٍ فِي الْأَرْضِ فَكَأَنَّمَا قَتَلَ النَّاسَ جَمِيعًا وَمَنْ أَحْيَاهَا فَكَأَنَّمَا أَحْيَا النَّاسَ جَمِيعًا ۚوَلَقَدْ جَاءَتْهُمْ رُسُلُنَا بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ ثُمَّ إِنَّ كَثِيرًا مِّنْهُم بَعْدَ ذَ*ٰلِكَ فِي الْأَرْضِ لَمُسْرِفُونَ
Yusuf Ali 32:On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our messengers with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.
اس سبب سے ہم نے بنی اسرائیل پر لکھا کہ جس نے کسی انسان کو خون کے بدلے یا زمین میں فساد پھیلانے کے سوا کسی اور وجہ سے قتل کیا گویا اس نے تمام انسانوں کو قتل کر دیا اورجس نے کسی کو زندگی بخشی اس نے گویا تمام انسانوں کی زندگی بخشی اورہمارے رسولوں ان کے پاس کھلے حکم لا چکے ہیں پھر بھی ان میں سے بہت لوگ زمین میں زیادتیاں کرنے والے ہیں


The Suadi rulers may be at fault. But it does not mean that you support the killing of millions of innocent civilian including children, women, elderly etc.